Trumpf to call for 6 weeks of paid maternity leave.

[Skull Pilot]

Can anyone tell me why anyone should get paid for not working?
So what if a person chooses to have a baby?
It is not my responsibility to support them for any length of time

You want a kid then you plan for it. Save up your vacation sick and personal time, save a little extra money and have your kid but don't expect anyone else to pay for it

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Most conservatives are deplorable hypocrites.

 

[martybegan]

Seems strange; this is more of the “free stuff” that Republicans once said they hated. It will be interesting to see how they react.

Trump to call for six weeks paid maternity leave


The plan's centerpiece has already been announced: rewriting the tax code to allow families to deduct childcare expenses. The campaign is fleshing out more details ahead of Trump's speech.

The total cost will be capped at the average child care costs in each state, while the highest-earning Americans — individuals making $250,000 per year or households with a combined $500,000 per year in income — won't be eligible.

Stay-at-home parents will also be eligible to take the deduction. The campaign framed the moves as a step toward creating an equal playing field for those who stay home to raise their children.

technically its expanding un-employment coverage to 6 weeks of maternity leave, not forcing a company to compensate someone at full salary for a time period.

 

[candycorn]

Incorrect:

"The plan's centerpiece has already been announced: rewriting the tax code to allow families to deduct childcare expenses. The campaign is fleshing out more details ahead of Trump’s speech.”

Less tax revenue from some means more tax revenue from others….or more debt.

 

[martybegan]

Incorrect:

"The plan's centerpiece has already been announced: rewriting the tax code to allow families to deduct childcare expenses. The campaign is fleshing out more details ahead of Trump’s speech.”

Less tax revenue from some means more tax revenue from others….or more debt.

different part of the plan. What i stated about the maternity leave is correct.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

This is all about trying to help Trump's dismal polling with women.

 

[MrMike]

It's a fair option and has a good benefit (investment in family which is a conservative value) so it's a hybrid plan that can be creatively funded (hell, I'll kill some useless programs to help offset the cost of this, plus give tax breaks to companies who register x-days maternity leave each year). Of all the things the government can mandate, I have no problem with this at all.

 

[JakeStarkey]

It's a fair option and has a good benefit (investment in family which is a conservative value) so it's a hybrid plan that can be creatively funded (hell, I'll kill some useless programs to help offset the cost of this, plus give tax breaks to companies who register x-days maternity leave each year). Of all the things the government can mandate, I have no problem with this at all.

Then you are no conservative.

 

[martybegan]

Incorrect:

"The plan's centerpiece has already been announced: rewriting the tax code to allow families to deduct childcare expenses. The campaign is fleshing out more details ahead of Trump’s speech.”

Less tax revenue from some means more tax revenue from others….or more debt.

different part of the plan. What i stated about the maternity leave is correct.

What's so funny? Also, Candy left out the more obvious choice, cutting other government bullshit to fund this.

 

[martybegan]

It's a fair option and has a good benefit (investment in family which is a conservative value) so it's a hybrid plan that can be creatively funded (hell, I'll kill some useless programs to help offset the cost of this, plus give tax breaks to companies who register x-days maternity leave each year). Of all the things the government can mandate, I have no problem with this at all.

Then you are no conservative.

you don't get to define things, farkey-butthole.

 

[bendog]

I wonder what Wonderful Donald's foundation offers in terms of maternity benefits.

https://www.glassdoor.com/Benefits/...-and-Paternity-Leave-US-BNFT23_E230271_N1.htm

 

[MrMike]

It's a fair option and has a good benefit (investment in family which is a conservative value) so it's a hybrid plan that can be creatively funded (hell, I'll kill some useless programs to help offset the cost of this, plus give tax breaks to companies who register x-days maternity leave each year). Of all the things the government can mandate, I have no problem with this at all.

Then you are no conservative.

I'm an American...

Good luck with that!

 

[MrMike]

Incorrect:

"The plan's centerpiece has already been announced: rewriting the tax code to allow families to deduct childcare expenses. The campaign is fleshing out more details ahead of Trump’s speech.”

Less tax revenue from some means more tax revenue from others….or more debt.

different part of the plan. What i stated about the maternity leave is correct.

What's so funny? Also, Candy left out the more obvious choice, cutting other government bullshit to fund this.

That's a good point. The offset for cost can come from "cuts" to useless programs plus giving companies incentives (tax breaks) for ongoing compliance with the maternity leave proposal.

I don't really see a problem with it and from an election standpoint, it's a clever move by Trump. For those that claim it's not "conservative" they can cry me a river. Investing in family should be a hallmark of conservatism given the conservative whines about broken homes, poor child-rearing, and better care for kids. Why not invest from the start with a mother and a new life (baby) who "conservatives" also claim they don't want aborted?

I'm an American, and a conservative with common-sense. Many so called conservatives in the GOP apparently lack the latter.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Seems strange; this is more of the “free stuff” that Republicans once said they hated. It will be interesting to see how they react.

The crowd actually cheered. I think they would cheer anything Trump says and think about it later

 

[flacaltenn]

Of course Trump can say this.....

The GOP congress will never pass it.

Why can't they be a little more reasonable........

I am for paid maternity leave.

Out of a general fund. That way you don't screw small businesses who might be able to afford this a little less.

Just out of curiousity -- where the fuck you hiding your "conservatism"?? Paying for all that INCLUDING his proposed "dependent care" and "child care" are gonna warp those markets and inflate the PRICES of those services. You KNOW the drill -- yet it rolls right off your tongue -- that it "comes out of the general fund".

That along with Trumps position that "the USA SHOULD assume a bigger load of debt" should make any thinking Conservative more than just squeamish. They should be panicked about "the deals" this guy is gonna make without ANY real political compass behind him. He's an egotist --- that's his political compass.

If HE DOES IT -- it has to "make America great".

I am not hiding it anywhere.

I think there are plenty of conversations that could be had that would allow people to consider how they might make this happen and NOT add extra load onto our already stupid debt.

I said a general fund and I didn't say whose....I have long advocated for personal Social Security accounts (not privatized..necessarily) that could be used for things like this, workman's comp, extended health care, etc.

It sure LOOKS like Trump is purposely looking for ways to bust the budget. I doubt he's gonna have a lot of advisers who nag him about debt --- when the King LIKES debt --- a lot.

Reforms to LOWER the outrageous prices of day care and dependent care are obvious to me. It's those leftists in NYCity that are paying half their salaries for those things. Because they live in a HIGHLY regulated state that requires certification for things that the facility might NEVER ENCOUNTER. (for example). OF COURSE, it's gonna be expensive if the day care is DESIGNED by leftists. Not so much a problem elsewhere's.

I'd go with that --- before laying in literally $BILLs into a market and inflate the prices BECAUSE of high subsidies.

Oh, I agree.

But that is what you've got looming out there......

I don't care who get's elected...we are at 20 Trillion and it ain't stopping.

Pretty soon that will be all that matters.

I agree about the highly regulated state.

People are going to have to get used to the idea of a little risk.

You want to get divorced...you're gonna face issues. You don't have a great paying job.....you are going to have more issues.

That's why I'm voting for folks that have a pedigree in fiscal conservancy.. You can get "all liberal and shit" when the government focuses on primary duties, isn't running a risk of default, and has all those agencies PRUNED and working efficiently.

Might take longer than it took Hercules to clean the stables --- but THEN --- you can put more entitlements on the table. Right NOW --- Trump is not really a BIG alternative to Hillary on tax and spend..

 

[MrMike]

Of course Trump can say this.....

The GOP congress will never pass it.

Why can't they be a little more reasonable........

I am for paid maternity leave.

Out of a general fund. That way you don't screw small businesses who might be able to afford this a little less.

Just out of curiousity -- where the fuck you hiding your "conservatism"?? Paying for all that INCLUDING his proposed "dependent care" and "child care" are gonna warp those markets and inflate the PRICES of those services. You KNOW the drill -- yet it rolls right off your tongue -- that it "comes out of the general fund".

That along with Trumps position that "the USA SHOULD assume a bigger load of debt" should make any thinking Conservative more than just squeamish. They should be panicked about "the deals" this guy is gonna make without ANY real political compass behind him. He's an egotist --- that's his political compass.

If HE DOES IT -- it has to "make America great".

I am not hiding it anywhere.

I think there are plenty of conversations that could be had that would allow people to consider how they might make this happen and NOT add extra load onto our already stupid debt.

I said a general fund and I didn't say whose....I have long advocated for personal Social Security accounts (not privatized..necessarily) that could be used for things like this, workman's comp, extended health care, etc.

It sure LOOKS like Trump is purposely looking for ways to bust the budget. I doubt he's gonna have a lot of advisers who nag him about debt --- when the King LIKES debt --- a lot.

Reforms to LOWER the outrageous prices of day care and dependent care are obvious to me. It's those leftists in NYCity that are paying half their salaries for those things. Because they live in a HIGHLY regulated state that requires certification for things that the facility might NEVER ENCOUNTER. (for example). OF COURSE, it's gonna be expensive if the day care is DESIGNED by leftists. Not so much a problem elsewhere's.

I'd go with that --- before laying in literally $BILLs into a market and inflate the prices BECAUSE of high subsidies.

Oh, I agree.

But that is what you've got looming out there......

I don't care who get's elected...we are at 20 Trillion and it ain't stopping.

Pretty soon that will be all that matters.

I agree about the highly regulated state.

People are going to have to get used to the idea of a little risk.

You want to get divorced...you're gonna face issues. You don't have a great paying job.....you are going to have more issues.

That's why I'm voting for folks that have a pedigree in fiscal conservancy.. You can get "all liberal and shit" when the government focuses on primary duties, isn't running a risk of default, and has all those agencies PRUNED and working efficiently.

Might take longer than it took Hercules to clean the stables --- but THEN --- you can put more entitlements on the table. Right NOW --- Trump is not really a BIG alternative to Hillary on tax and spend..

Which total fiscal conservative are you voting for POTUS in 2016?

 

[flacaltenn]

Just out of curiousity -- where the fuck you hiding your "conservatism"?? Paying for all that INCLUDING his proposed "dependent care" and "child care" are gonna warp those markets and inflate the PRICES of those services. You KNOW the drill -- yet it rolls right off your tongue -- that it "comes out of the general fund".

That along with Trumps position that "the USA SHOULD assume a bigger load of debt" should make any thinking Conservative more than just squeamish. They should be panicked about "the deals" this guy is gonna make without ANY real political compass behind him. He's an egotist --- that's his political compass.

If HE DOES IT -- it has to "make America great".

I am not hiding it anywhere.

I think there are plenty of conversations that could be had that would allow people to consider how they might make this happen and NOT add extra load onto our already stupid debt.

I said a general fund and I didn't say whose....I have long advocated for personal Social Security accounts (not privatized..necessarily) that could be used for things like this, workman's comp, extended health care, etc.

It sure LOOKS like Trump is purposely looking for ways to bust the budget. I doubt he's gonna have a lot of advisers who nag him about debt --- when the King LIKES debt --- a lot.

Reforms to LOWER the outrageous prices of day care and dependent care are obvious to me. It's those leftists in NYCity that are paying half their salaries for those things. Because they live in a HIGHLY regulated state that requires certification for things that the facility might NEVER ENCOUNTER. (for example). OF COURSE, it's gonna be expensive if the day care is DESIGNED by leftists. Not so much a problem elsewhere's.

I'd go with that --- before laying in literally $BILLs into a market and inflate the prices BECAUSE of high subsidies.

Oh, I agree.

But that is what you've got looming out there......

I don't care who get's elected...we are at 20 Trillion and it ain't stopping.

Pretty soon that will be all that matters.

I agree about the highly regulated state.

People are going to have to get used to the idea of a little risk.

You want to get divorced...you're gonna face issues. You don't have a great paying job.....you are going to have more issues.

That's why I'm voting for folks that have a pedigree in fiscal conservancy.. You can get "all liberal and shit" when the government focuses on primary duties, isn't running a risk of default, and has all those agencies PRUNED and working efficiently.

Might take longer than it took Hercules to clean the stables --- but THEN --- you can put more entitlements on the table. Right NOW --- Trump is not really a BIG alternative to Hillary on tax and spend..

Which total fiscal conservative are you voting for POTUS in 2016?

I'm voting Libertarian of course --- and crossing my fingers that our brain reprogramming of Johnson./Weld makes them act libertarian.. At least on fiscal issues. Which should be EASY for them..

 

[MrMike]

I am not hiding it anywhere.

I think there are plenty of conversations that could be had that would allow people to consider how they might make this happen and NOT add extra load onto our already stupid debt.

I said a general fund and I didn't say whose....I have long advocated for personal Social Security accounts (not privatized..necessarily) that could be used for things like this, workman's comp, extended health care, etc.

It sure LOOKS like Trump is purposely looking for ways to bust the budget. I doubt he's gonna have a lot of advisers who nag him about debt --- when the King LIKES debt --- a lot.

Reforms to LOWER the outrageous prices of day care and dependent care are obvious to me. It's those leftists in NYCity that are paying half their salaries for those things. Because they live in a HIGHLY regulated state that requires certification for things that the facility might NEVER ENCOUNTER. (for example). OF COURSE, it's gonna be expensive if the day care is DESIGNED by leftists. Not so much a problem elsewhere's.

I'd go with that --- before laying in literally $BILLs into a market and inflate the prices BECAUSE of high subsidies.

Oh, I agree.

But that is what you've got looming out there......

I don't care who get's elected...we are at 20 Trillion and it ain't stopping.

Pretty soon that will be all that matters.

I agree about the highly regulated state.

People are going to have to get used to the idea of a little risk.

You want to get divorced...you're gonna face issues. You don't have a great paying job.....you are going to have more issues.

That's why I'm voting for folks that have a pedigree in fiscal conservancy.. You can get "all liberal and shit" when the government focuses on primary duties, isn't running a risk of default, and has all those agencies PRUNED and working efficiently.

Might take longer than it took Hercules to clean the stables --- but THEN --- you can put more entitlements on the table. Right NOW --- Trump is not really a BIG alternative to Hillary on tax and spend..

Which total fiscal conservative are you voting for POTUS in 2016?

I'm voting Libertarian of course --- and crossing my fingers that our brain reprogramming of Johnson./Weld makes them act libertarian.. At least on fiscal issues. Which should be EASY for them..

This has been the strangest election cycle I've seen in my lifetime. I keep asking, "is this really the best we can do?"

 

[Fang]

This Republican is all for paid maternity leave.

 

[cereal_killer]

Seems strange; this is more of the “free stuff” that Republicans once said they hated. It will be interesting to see how they react.

Trump to call for six weeks paid maternity leave


The plan's centerpiece has already been announced: rewriting the tax code to allow families to deduct childcare expenses. The campaign is fleshing out more details ahead of Trump's speech.

The total cost will be capped at the average child care costs in each state, while the highest-earning Americans — individuals making $250,000 per year or households with a combined $500,000 per year in income — won't be eligible.

Stay-at-home parents will also be eligible to take the deduction. The campaign framed the moves as a step toward creating an equal playing field for those who stay home to raise their children.

Trump's not a republican. And he knows there isn't a snowball's chance in hell of this passing congress, even it a bill was introduced, which he knows won't be introduced even if he's elected.

Not that pandering is unusual, but it's sort of pathetic that he's trying to poach women votes so disingenuously. But, insulting women isn't anything he is bothered by.

Dems will certainly pass it, its getting the douche bag Republican establishment to go along with it. Think of it this way if the Republicans shoot it down Trump will call them to the carpet and make them look like the idiots they are. That's what a Trump Presidency looks like....fuck with the American people the CIC will call you out for it no matter what letter is next to your name.

One last thing, you're wrong in saying he knows there's not a snowballs chance in hell of it getting passed. Trump doesn't just throw things out there. His ego is too big to let people/politicians stand in his way of the things he wants to get done.