Trump's promise to Evangelicals: I will destroy the Johnson amendment

[Picaro]

No one should have political pandering if they are on the IRS tax-exempt rolls.

Pay the due if you want to be involved in politics.

Churches should not be tax exempt, period.

Ah the usual nonsense, based on the truly idiotic narrative that just because some pseudo-intellectual tards managed to peddle the fake nonsense their dysfunctional mental disorder and compulsive sex fetish is a 'political issue' that this somehow means ministers are suddenly supposed to shut up about it or something. Thanks for weighing in with the typical cognitively dissonant 'logic' used by you unprincipled amoral sociopaths and psychopaths, Jake; you're good for something after all, once in a while, anyway.

You are an immoral person, Picaro, nothing more. You get to be your own type of Christian, but that means you don't get to tell anyone else they have to live their lives by the law according to your standards. When churches move beyond their private, religious arena into the public forum, then, yes, they are subject to law just like any other entity.

You don't have a clue, Jake; we all already know that. Go start some more troll threads in the CDZ or something.

 

[Picaro]

For those truly interested in informing themselves more on the issues, start with this article on just how ridiculous Federal law has become on the issue, especially after the waves of Court rulings from 1947 on. Don't have a link handy, but if you can't find it with the info below, please, just go shoot yourself.

Recommended Citation
Charles M. Whelan, "Church" in the Internal Revenue Code: The Definitional Problems , 45 Fordham L. Rev. 885 (1977).
Available at: ""Church" in the IRC" by Charles M. Whelan

 

[koshergrl]

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Trump is busting down all this NWO politcal bs. We're going to get the REAL AMERICA back and the leftist hitler loves ain't gonna like it. Oh well get use to it or get out.

Bad idea.

They should lose their tax exempt status then.

In which case, PP should lose their tax exempt status...and so should the Audubon society.

 

[2aguy]

No, I don't think that preachers should publicly endorse a candidate, because it could be seen as that particular religion as a whole endorsing the candidate, and it could lead to problems in the church, especially if you have 2 prominent leaders going for different candidates.

So you deny religious leaders full First Amendment rights..

And you wonder why you guys keep losing

I didn't do it, Johnson did. And, why is it that just now religious leaders are squeaking about it? Why didn't they get rid of it back then?

This is just more pandering to the religious right.

Because they finally have a Republican who will fight with them and who has stated he will change the law....

 

[Picaro]

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Trump is busting down all this NWO politcal bs. We're going to get the REAL AMERICA back and the leftist hitler loves ain't gonna like it. Oh well get use to it or get out.

Bad idea.

They should lose their tax exempt status then.

In which case, PP should lose their tax exempt status...and so should the Audubon society.

So Coyote wants to pay taxes on the mosque and Islamic fund raising? Interesting.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Picaro does not understand what the 1st Amendment means. I will help him. He can believe whatever he wants, but he cannot force his beliefs as a matter of course in the public square. His child can pray at school but cannot disrupt the educational process or bother the child's neighbors in doing so.

 

[martybegan]

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Trump is busting down all this NWO politcal bs. We're going to get the REAL AMERICA back and the leftist hitler loves ain't gonna like it. Oh well get use to it or get out.

rightwingnut religious freaks need to leave everyone else alone.

it will also allow Black Churches to re-enter the political discussion officially, as opposed to the half measures they have to take currently.

Remember when Trump said he would reach out to the Black Community?

 

[Conservative65]

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Trump is busting down all this NWO politcal bs. We're going to get the REAL AMERICA back and the leftist hitler loves ain't gonna like it. Oh well get use to it or get out.

There's no question that he is in Pander Overdrive......

2009 - 2017 was pander overdrive.

 

[martybegan]

No one should have political pandering if they are on the IRS tax-exempt rolls.

Pay the due if you want to be involved in politics.

Churches should not be tax exempt, period.

Why do you equate taxes with political advocacy?

Aren't unions tax exempt in some ways?

 

[Conservative65]

Picaro does not understand what the 1st Amendment means. I will help him. He can believe whatever he wants, but he cannot force his beliefs as a matter of course in the public square. His child can pray at school but cannot disrupt the educational process or bother the child's neighbors in doing so.

You mean like moral matters?

 

[martybegan]

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Trump is busting down all this NWO politcal bs. We're going to get the REAL AMERICA back and the leftist hitler loves ain't gonna like it. Oh well get use to it or get out.

rightwingnut religious freaks need to leave everyone else alone.

Yeah...it isn't religious people forcing gays to bake pro-traditional marriage cakes.....

I'm not going to argue this with bigoted loons.... you can't run a business and not accommodate the public.

if you can't handle the work, don't do it.

you can let whomever you want into your home.... or not.

Otherwise know as BAKE THE FUCKING CAKE, PEASANT!

How understanding of you.

 

[martybegan]

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Trump is busting down all this NWO politcal bs. We're going to get the REAL AMERICA back and the leftist hitler loves ain't gonna like it. Oh well get use to it or get out.

rightwingnut religious freaks need to leave everyone else alone.

Yeah...it isn't religious people forcing gays to bake pro-traditional marriage cakes.....

I'm not going to argue this with bigoted loons.... you can't run a business and not accommodate the public.

if you can't handle the work, don't do it.

you can let whomever you want into your home.... or not.

So...you open a business and you lose your 1st Amendment Right to freedom of religion......how does that work exactly?

And only if the issue is near and dear to the anti-fascist fascists like Jillian.

 

[Conservative65]

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Trump is busting down all this NWO politcal bs. We're going to get the REAL AMERICA back and the leftist hitler loves ain't gonna like it. Oh well get use to it or get out.

rightwingnut religious freaks need to leave everyone else alone.

it will also allow Black Churches to re-enter the political discussion officially, as opposed to the half measures they have to take currently.

Remember when Trump said he would reach out to the Black Community?

When Hillary spoke at a black church using whatever you want to call the dialect/accent she used, her "sermon" was purely political. The left has no problem with that.

 

[Conservative65]

All good Americans know that preaching the far right version of religion makes hypocrites of people and turns them away from morals and principles. Such people threaten the American system.

But preaching the far left version of religion is perfectly OK with you Democrats.

 

[martybegan]

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Trump is busting down all this NWO politcal bs. We're going to get the REAL AMERICA back and the leftist hitler loves ain't gonna like it. Oh well get use to it or get out.

rightwingnut religious freaks need to leave everyone else alone.

it will also allow Black Churches to re-enter the political discussion officially, as opposed to the half measures they have to take currently.

Remember when Trump said he would reach out to the Black Community?

When Hillary spoke at a black church using whatever you want to call the dialect/accent she used, her "sermon" was purely political. The left has no problem with that.

yep, but Trump is now giving them back the right to do so without worry of punishment.

 

[JakeStarkey]

No one should have political pandering if they are on the IRS tax-exempt rolls.

Pay the due if you want to be involved in politics.

Churches should not be tax exempt, period.

Why do you equate taxes with political advocacy?

Aren't unions tax exempt in some ways?

If they are tax-exempt they should not be, imo.

 

[JakeStarkey]

All good Americans know that preaching the far right version of religion makes hypocrites of people and turns them away from morals and principles. Such people threaten the American system.

But preaching the far left version of religion is perfectly OK with you Democrats.

You are not a patriot, I am a GOP, and no religion should be tax exempt.

 

[martybegan]

No one should have political pandering if they are on the IRS tax-exempt rolls.

Pay the due if you want to be involved in politics.

Churches should not be tax exempt, period.

Why do you equate taxes with political advocacy?

Aren't unions tax exempt in some ways?

If they are tax-exempt they should not be, imo.

Why not? A Union's organizational goal is not to make a profit, but to represent their workers, hence the "non-profit" nature of the organization. Why is a Church any different than any other non profit when it comes to being able to voice political opinions?

Why do you feel the need to muzzle speech?

 

[martybegan]

All good Americans know that preaching the far right version of religion makes hypocrites of people and turns them away from morals and principles. Such people threaten the American system.

But preaching the far left version of religion is perfectly OK with you Democrats.

You are not a patriot, I am a GOP, and no religion should be tax exempt.

Bullshit.

 

[JakeStarkey]

No one should have political pandering if they are on the IRS tax-exempt rolls.

Pay the due if you want to be involved in politics.

Churches should not be tax exempt, period.

Why do you equate taxes with political advocacy?

Aren't unions tax exempt in some ways?

If they are tax-exempt they should not be, imo.

Why not? A Union's organizational goal is not to make a profit, but to represent their workers, hence the "non-profit" nature of the organization. Why is a Church any different than any other non profit when it comes to being able to voice political opinions? Why do you feel the need to muzzle speech?

That you do not understand the Constitution, stare decisis, and how the law works.

Your rebuttal of 'appeal to authority,' when in fact all of the above is authoritative, only means you disagree not that the law is wrong. Tough to be a libertarian, I know.