Under God

[Redfish]

When this country abandoned God, the decline began. Some of you may disagree, and that's just fine. But a nation that does not follow God's teachings is a nation that will crumble and die.

 

[JakeStarkey]

No country can ever abandon God, Redfish. Who can ever make God go away? But since you are an atheist, this is a troll thread. So, mods, please put this in the flame zone.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

It is happening all around us, and the most amazing thing to see is the blindness and denial from those who will not acknowledge it, in spite of the proof that surrounds them.

 

[JakeStarkey]

It is happening all around us, and the most amazing thing to see is the blindness and denial from those who will not acknowledge it, in spite of the proof that surrounds them.

Particularly some of the Latter Day Saint denominations. Good post, bob.

 

[jwoodie]

Ethics are meaningless outside of a moral construct.

 

[RodISHI]

When this country abandoned God, the decline began. Some of you may disagree, and that's just fine. But a nation that does not follow God's teachings is a nation that will crumble and die.

There are enough that haven't abandon God to turn it back around but that does not mean it will be easy.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Scary shit.

 

[Redfish]

No country can ever abandon God, Redfish. Who can ever make God go away? But since you are an atheist, this is a troll thread. So, mods, please put this in the flame zone.

Atheist? where did you get such a foolish idea? I am a devout Christian and practicing Methodist. Why would you say such a thing?

 

[Contumacious]

No country can ever abandon God, Redfish. Who can ever make God go away? But since you are an atheist, this is a troll thread. So, mods, please put this in the flame zone.

The only problem is that the fascists, socialists and state supremacists like you believe the almighty state is god.


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[JakeStarkey]

Ethics are meaningless outside of a moral construct.

To those without a moral construct, like you, that argument can be made.

 

[JakeStarkey]

No country can ever abandon God, Redfish. Who can ever make God go away? But since you are an atheist, this is a troll thread. So, mods, please put this in the flame zone.

Atheist? where did you get such a foolish idea? I am a devout Christian and practicing Methodist. Why would you say such a thing?

No devout christian Methodist is a racist: that is not possible. You are clearly an atheist if you continue to make decisions based on race.

This nation has never abandoned God.

 

[Syriusly]

When this country abandoned God, the decline began. Some of you may disagree, and that's just fine. But a nation that does not follow God's teachings is a nation that will crumble and die.

And when did that happen Redfish?

Decline from what?

And which of 'God's teachings' are we not following?

 

[Syriusly]

It is happening all around us, and the most amazing thing to see is the blindness and denial from those who will not acknowledge it, in spite of the proof that surrounds them.

Yet you were unable to identify any of that 'proof'......

 

[pwjohn]

When this country abandoned God, the decline began. Some of you may disagree, and that's just fine. But a nation that does not follow God's teachings is a nation that will crumble and die.

So when did you abandon god?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

When this country abandoned God, the decline began. Some of you may disagree, and that's just fine. But a nation that does not follow God's teachings is a nation that will crumble and die.

Ignorant nonsense.

The country didn’t ‘abandon “god”’; the notion is sophomoric idiocy.

Following the original intent of the Framers to keep church and state separate has no bearing whatsoever on current events.

Establishment Clause jurisprudence reflects the original understanding of the Founding Generation that government should not seek to promote or advance religious dogma, or become excessively entangled in religious dogma, and that when government concerns itself with religion it is to do so only in a secular context.

Indeed, the purpose of the First Amendment is to safeguard citizens’ religious liberties from the ignorance and stupidity advanced by the thread premise.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

When this country abandoned God, the decline began. Some of you may disagree, and that's just fine. But a nation that does not follow God's teachings is a nation that will crumble and die.

You mean like when the country was "under God" you could be arrested for opening your business on a Sunday?

You mean like when the country was "under God" black people were being dragged out of their homes and lynched and had crosses burned in their yards?

You mean like when the country was "under God" the northern part and the southern part slaughtered each other for five years?

You mean like when the country was "under God" people were imprisoned for drinking alcohol?

The fact of the matter is nobody in this country is prevented from following their religious beliefs and raising their families accordingly. What people like you really mean when you say the country has turned away from God is that you can no longer use the government to force me and everyone else to adhere to YOUR particular religion's beliefs.

 

[Redfish]

No country can ever abandon God, Redfish. Who can ever make God go away? But since you are an atheist, this is a troll thread. So, mods, please put this in the flame zone.

Atheist? where did you get such a foolish idea? I am a devout Christian and practicing Methodist. Why would you say such a thing?

No devout christian Methodist is a racist: that is not possible. You are clearly an atheist if you continue to make decisions based on race.

This nation has never abandoned God.

are you on drugs? I am not a racist. I practice the words of MLK, I do not judge by skin color, I judge by actions and words, and based on that I judge you to be an idiot who should be institutionalized for lunacy no matter what color you are.

You on the left are trying to get God taken off our money, out of our pledge, and out of our schools. YOU are exactly what you claim not to be.

the moral code of this country, and most civilized nations, is based on judeo Christian teachings of what is right and what is wrong.

 

[Redfish]

When this country abandoned God, the decline began. Some of you may disagree, and that's just fine. But a nation that does not follow God's teachings is a nation that will crumble and die.

You mean like when the country was "under God" you could be arrested for opening your business on a Sunday?

You mean like when the country was "under God" black people were being dragged out of their homes and lynched and had crosses burned in their yards?

You mean like when the country was "under God" the northern part and the southern part slaughtered each other for five years?

You mean like when the country was "under God" people were imprisoned for drinking alcohol?

The fact of the matter is nobody in this country is prevented from following their religious beliefs and raising their families accordingly. What people like you really mean when you say the country has turned away from God is that you can no longer use the government to force me and everyone else to adhere to YOUR particular religion's beliefs.

nice try, but none of those things were supported or condoned by people who practiced God's teachings.

Yes, there was Godlessness in our past, and its returning because of confused people like you.

 

[Redfish]

When this country abandoned God, the decline began. Some of you may disagree, and that's just fine. But a nation that does not follow God's teachings is a nation that will crumble and die.

Ignorant nonsense.

The country didn’t ‘abandon “god”’; the notion is sophomoric idiocy.

Following the original intent of the Framers to keep church and state separate has no bearing whatsoever on current events.

Establishment Clause jurisprudence reflects the original understanding of the Founding Generation that government should not seek to promote or advance religious dogma, or become excessively entangled in religious dogma, and that when government concerns itself with religion it is to do so only in a secular context.

Indeed, the purpose of the First Amendment is to safeguard citizens’ religious liberties from the ignorance and stupidity advanced by the thread premise.

"endowed by their creator" "in God we trust". Yes, the first amendment allows free speech and the practice of the religion, or not, of your choice. We do not have a national religion like muslim countries. But our constitution is based on views of right and wrong as taught by all religions.

When the leaders of a country denigrate religion, or in Obama's case Christianity, the end result will be chaos. Read the run up to the Third Reich if you care to learn from history.

 

[jwoodie]

When this country abandoned God, the decline began. Some of you may disagree, and that's just fine. But a nation that does not follow God's teachings is a nation that will crumble and die.

Ignorant nonsense.

The country didn’t ‘abandon “god”’; the notion is sophomoric idiocy.

Following the original intent of the Framers to keep church and state separate has no bearing whatsoever on current events.

Establishment Clause jurisprudence reflects the original understanding of the Founding Generation that government should not seek to promote or advance religious dogma, or become excessively entangled in religious dogma, and that when government concerns itself with religion it is to do so only in a secular context.

Indeed, the purpose of the First Amendment is to safeguard citizens’ religious liberties from the ignorance and stupidity advanced by the thread premise.

So many words, so little understanding. The First Amendment prohibited the Federal Government from establishing a national religion (e.g., the Church of England). It did not prohibit the States from recognizing their own predominant religions until the 14th Amendment provided an excuse through the invention of "reverse incorporation."