alpine
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- Sep 13, 2012
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Who is innocent?
For instance, Turkish state caught supporting ISIS, sending them military equipment and buying their oil.
Turkish state governed by a sectarian sunni islamist political party, headed by RECEP TAYYIP ERDOGAN.
This guy got 23 million votes in the last elections.
SO, the million dollar question; are 23 million Turks who supported the Erdogan regime who supported the ISIS terrorist state, innocent or guilty?
Do people bear responsibility for their choices in life, or they can just wash away their hands if their choices end up causing destruction and chaos world wide?
In America, everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
That is the point.
USA has every right to try its muslim population, because there is a crime here. Knowingly voting for a sectarian anti-secular islamist political party supporting a terrorist state is a crime, a crime against HUMANITY.
And people pay for their crimes, in America, not?
Uh...wtf? The USA is not a fascist police state. Yet. What you are proposing is a crime against humanity.
We've had Christian terrorism - shall we try our Christian population?
What about gun owners...hmmmm.....
If it is coordinated by christian terrorist state, yes, you should...
If gun owners have established a terrorist state and coordinating terrorist activities, than you should.
And islamists have IN FACT setup a terrorist state, and coordinating terrorist activities, and you SHOULD....
If you know what I mean....I am here, a human being with a muslim background here trying to take some GOD DAMN RESPONSIBILITY!
And you call me a FASCIST!!!
Muslims, the MAJORITY of muslims have RESPONSIBILITY in this mess, and where are they now?
While they are enjoying the luxuries of the west, the freedom of speech, freedom of religion, all the freedoms the political parties they are voting for in their shit hole sunni majority countries dont respect by any means, thos same political sectarian parties supporting international terrorism.
Where are they when human beings including their own people, FRENCH AMERICANS are being killed as a result of their bigoted actions????
WHERE ARE YOU SUNNI MUSLIMS OF AMERICA???????
ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP VOTING FOR YOUR ISLAMIST (DISGRACE TO HIUAMNITY) PARTIES????
WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU??????????????????????????????????????
And I am the fascist ha...
So be it.........................................................................................
If you are proposing criminalizing an entire group of people - not for what they've done, but for their religious beliefs - then yes, you are a fascist and no, you are not "taking responsibility" by calling for these kind of actions against innocent citizens!
Regardless of whether you are a muslim or not - or, as you say, have a "muslim background".
If their religious beliefs include supporting a terrorist state one way or another, that is in itself a criminal ACTION.
If they materially support terrorism then that is a criminal action. There is no religion attached to that.
If any muslim in this country show any support to any islamist movement, including political parties by political means, have no place in this society.
People in this country have the freedom to support any political parties they want as long as no laws are broken. That means they can be neo-nazi's, join the KKK, or be an Islamist. If "any muslim" in this country shows support...well then...what if "any Christian" shows any support for neo-nazi's? Rightwing extremist movements? Or...is it only Muslims?
Because this act by itself is detrimental to the very basics of this society, detrimental to muslim society, detrimental to the whole world society, because islamism have no respect to anyone, except itself.
What you propose is just as detrimental to a free and open society such as we enjoy.
What if KKK and neo-nazis were the MAJORITY in this country?
What is they had the power to elect a government to their like?
You talking like this because you are comfortable far way from the harm of these ideologies.
But if you were, if your children were, if your family were, I would see your support for freedom and openness...............
I'm strictly talking about the United States and I'm not about to sacrifice the freedoms or rights our citizens enjoy for the perception of safety.
If KKK or neo-nazis in this country had enough power to elect a government to their like, would you accept that or not?
Simple question.......
Would you support their right to elect in such a case?
Is it in your definition of "freedom" for them to push their ideologies to you?
I am asking you these questions, but in fact, I know your answer to these questions.....