Vaccine bill defeated in Oklahoma!

[Rustic]

It's called public health for a reason. I have to give my dog a rabies vaccine for the same reason.

The Problem is vaccines don't stop all diseases, forcing people to take vaccines defeats the purpose. Not everybody can survive being given a vaccine, not everybody can afford vaccines, who are you to say that everyone has to take a vaccine?

The Problem is vaccines don't stop all diseases,

No. But they help...a lot.

forcing people to take vaccines defeats the purpose.

Stopping most disease...by force...defeats the purpose of stopping most disease?
You'll have to help me with your logic.....if you ever find it. Good luck!

Millions of people have not taken vaccines for those diseases and survived… Fact

 

[Rustic]

Basically you're putting poison in the body with vaccines… Fact

Every time you take a breath or a bite or a drink, you're ingesting poison.
The important thing is the dose. A small enough dose of the worst poison would have no effect.
Leaving your child open to a horrific disease because you don't understand dosage is sad and stupid.

There's no guarantee that vaccines will work, and why force them on people?

The two factors that determine the effectiveness of a vaccine are how effective the vaccine is in building the body's immunity and how many people get the vaccine. Even if a vaccination is not 100% effective in building immunity,
it offers some protection to those who are unable to receive vaccinations including newborns and individuals with chronic illnesses by reducing the likelihood of an outbreak that could expose them to the disease (herd immunity).

However, the effectiveness of vaccines against "childhood" diseases is very high.
measles, mumps and rubella - 99.7%
pollo - 99%
Chickenpox 85% to 90% for all cases and 100% for moderate cases
diphtheria -97%

Vaccines commonalty given to adults are not usually as effective as those for childhood disease, for example:
Hepatitus B 90%
Flu 50% to 60%
Tetanus 70% to 90%
Pneumonia 45% to 75%
Shingles 85% to 90%
Top 20 Questions about Vaccination | History of Vaccines
Vaccine Effectiveness - How Well Does the Flu Vaccine Work? | Seasonal Influenza (Flu) | CDC

What about the people that want nothing to do with vaccines? What about people who can not survive vaccines? What about the people that can't afford vaccines? What about the people that refuse to be forced to take vaccines?
I've never had any of those vaccine you speak of... should I be forced to take them?
Like I said the only vaccine(flu) I've ever taken was in the early 90s and I was sick for two months because of it…

Yes. You should be tied up and held down and given vaccines.

I don't think so, this is not Nazi Germany… Yet

 

[LuckyDuck]

Considering the left wing whackos have no problem letting in unvaccinated individuals from third world countries, they have no right to force vaccinations on any given citizen.

I have no problem with parents refusing to allow their children to be vaccinated. I made sure that my daughter had all of her vaccinations as a child and if she encountered some kid of a dimwit parent who refused to allow his or her kid to be vaccinated and the kid came down with a crippling or killing disease, my kid would be protected and the other parent's kid could be dumped in the ground after dying of the disease, no problem.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Basically you're putting poison in the body with vaccines… Fact

Every time you take a breath or a bite or a drink, you're ingesting poison.
The important thing is the dose. A small enough dose of the worst poison would have no effect.
Leaving your child open to a horrific disease because you don't understand dosage is sad and stupid.

There's no guarantee that vaccines will work, and why force them on people?

The two factors that determine the effectiveness of a vaccine are how effective the vaccine is in building the body's immunity and how many people get the vaccine. Even if a vaccination is not 100% effective in building immunity,
it offers some protection to those who are unable to receive vaccinations including newborns and individuals with chronic illnesses by reducing the likelihood of an outbreak that could expose them to the disease (herd immunity).

However, the effectiveness of vaccines against "childhood" diseases is very high.
measles, mumps and rubella - 99.7%
pollo - 99%
Chickenpox 85% to 90% for all cases and 100% for moderate cases
diphtheria -97%

Vaccines commonalty given to adults are not usually as effective as those for childhood disease, for example:
Hepatitus B 90%
Flu 50% to 60%
Tetanus 70% to 90%
Pneumonia 45% to 75%
Shingles 85% to 90%
Top 20 Questions about Vaccination | History of Vaccines
Vaccine Effectiveness - How Well Does the Flu Vaccine Work? | Seasonal Influenza (Flu) | CDC

What about the people that want nothing to do with vaccines? What about people who can not survive vaccines? What about the people that can't afford vaccines? What about the people that refuse to be forced to take vaccines?
I've never had any of those vaccine you speak of... should I be forced to take them?
Like I said the only vaccine(flu) I've ever taken was in the early 90s and I was sick for two months because of it…

What about the people that want nothing to do with vaccines?

What about the people that want nothing to do with clean food and clean water?

What about people who can not survive vaccines?

If they have known immune issues, they won't get certain vaccines.
If everyone else got vaccinated, those people who couldn't get them or who couldn't survive the disease would be better protected.

What about the people that can't afford vaccines?

The government will usually provide them for the poor.

What about the people that refuse to be forced to take vaccines?

There are always people too stubborn or too stupid to get them.
If we minimize them as best we can, hopefully no one else will be harmed by their stupidity.

 

[Rustic]

Basically you're putting poison in the body with vaccines… Fact

Every time you take a breath or a bite or a drink, you're ingesting poison.
The important thing is the dose. A small enough dose of the worst poison would have no effect.
Leaving your child open to a horrific disease because you don't understand dosage is sad and stupid.

There's no guarantee that vaccines will work, and why force them on people?

The two factors that determine the effectiveness of a vaccine are how effective the vaccine is in building the body's immunity and how many people get the vaccine. Even if a vaccination is not 100% effective in building immunity,
it offers some protection to those who are unable to receive vaccinations including newborns and individuals with chronic illnesses by reducing the likelihood of an outbreak that could expose them to the disease (herd immunity).

However, the effectiveness of vaccines against "childhood" diseases is very high.
measles, mumps and rubella - 99.7%
pollo - 99%
Chickenpox 85% to 90% for all cases and 100% for moderate cases
diphtheria -97%

Vaccines commonalty given to adults are not usually as effective as those for childhood disease, for example:
Hepatitus B 90%
Flu 50% to 60%
Tetanus 70% to 90%
Pneumonia 45% to 75%
Shingles 85% to 90%
Top 20 Questions about Vaccination | History of Vaccines
Vaccine Effectiveness - How Well Does the Flu Vaccine Work? | Seasonal Influenza (Flu) | CDC

What about the people that want nothing to do with vaccines? What about people who can not survive vaccines? What about the people that can't afford vaccines? What about the people that refuse to be forced to take vaccines?
I've never had any of those vaccine you speak of... should I be forced to take them?
Like I said the only vaccine(flu) I've ever taken was in the early 90s and I was sick for two months because of it…

As I said, vaccines are covered by all insurance and are not subject to deductibles or copays. Public health clinics provide them at no cost.

No one is forced to take a vaccine if they have any health condition that would cause a problem.

You do not have a choice in vaccinating your kids because it puts other kids lives in danger. My youngest daughter could never be vaccinated for most childhood disease because of her health. Thankfully, there were enough kids being vaccinated that she never contracted any of the childhood diseases. If she had, it would have probably killed her.

I really get tired of listening to people like you who believe they should be able to do just as they please with no regard to how it effects others.

As the saying goes, your freedom ends where mine begins. There are some things in life we must do, not because it benefits ourselves but because it benefits all of us.

Like I said progressives Only desire is to control others, thus destroying any sort of freedom and individuality…
I was not vaccinated as a infant because I was not born in a hospital, fortunately.
My daughters have not been vaccinated because my wife would not allow it because of her Indian heritage… And I've always been against it in our family.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It's called public health for a reason. I have to give my dog a rabies vaccine for the same reason.

The Problem is vaccines don't stop all diseases, forcing people to take vaccines defeats the purpose. Not everybody can survive being given a vaccine, not everybody can afford vaccines, who are you to say that everyone has to take a vaccine?

The Problem is vaccines don't stop all diseases,

No. But they help...a lot.

forcing people to take vaccines defeats the purpose.

Stopping most disease...by force...defeats the purpose of stopping most disease?
You'll have to help me with your logic.....if you ever find it. Good luck!

Millions of people have not taken vaccines for those diseases and survived… Fact

Yup. And many were harmed or died because they did not get vaccines or because enough people around them did not get vaccines. Fact.

 

[Rustic]

It's called public health for a reason. I have to give my dog a rabies vaccine for the same reason.

The Problem is vaccines don't stop all diseases, forcing people to take vaccines defeats the purpose. Not everybody can survive being given a vaccine, not everybody can afford vaccines, who are you to say that everyone has to take a vaccine?

The Problem is vaccines don't stop all diseases,

No. But they help...a lot.

forcing people to take vaccines defeats the purpose.

Stopping most disease...by force...defeats the purpose of stopping most disease?
You'll have to help me with your logic.....if you ever find it. Good luck!

Millions of people have not taken vaccines for those diseases and survived… Fact

Yup. And many were harmed or died because they did not get vaccines or because enough people around them did not get vaccines. Fact.

No one knows the long term harmful side effects of any vaccine one way or another. I choose not to risk it

 

[Rustic]

Considering the left wing whackos have no problem letting in unvaccinated individuals from third world countries, they have no right to force vaccinations on any given citizen.

I have no problem with parents refusing to allow their children to be vaccinated. I made sure that my daughter had all of her vaccinations as a child and if she encountered some kid of a dimwit parent who refused to allow his or her kid to be vaccinated and the kid came down with a crippling or killing disease, my kid would be protected and the other parent's kid could be dumped in the ground after dying of the disease, no problem.

Millions of people have not been vaccinated and have never caught any of these diseases… Fact

 

[Rustic]

It's called public health for a reason. I have to give my dog a rabies vaccine for the same reason.

The Problem is vaccines don't stop all diseases, forcing people to take vaccines defeats the purpose. Not everybody can survive being given a vaccine, not everybody can afford vaccines, who are you to say that everyone has to take a vaccine?

The Problem is vaccines don't stop all diseases,

No. But they help...a lot.

forcing people to take vaccines defeats the purpose.

Stopping most disease...by force...defeats the purpose of stopping most disease?
You'll have to help me with your logic.....if you ever find it. Good luck!

Millions of people have not taken vaccines for those diseases and survived… Fact

Yup. And many were harmed or died because they did not get vaccines or because enough people around them did not get vaccines. Fact.

Collectivism is fucked up, fucking drones...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It's called public health for a reason. I have to give my dog a rabies vaccine for the same reason.

The Problem is vaccines don't stop all diseases, forcing people to take vaccines defeats the purpose. Not everybody can survive being given a vaccine, not everybody can afford vaccines, who are you to say that everyone has to take a vaccine?

The Problem is vaccines don't stop all diseases,

No. But they help...a lot.

forcing people to take vaccines defeats the purpose.

Stopping most disease...by force...defeats the purpose of stopping most disease?
You'll have to help me with your logic.....if you ever find it. Good luck!

Millions of people have not taken vaccines for those diseases and survived… Fact

Yup. And many were harmed or died because they did not get vaccines or because enough people around them did not get vaccines. Fact.

No one knows the long term harmful side effects of any vaccine one way or another. I choose not to risk it

No one knows the long term harmful side effects of any vaccine one way or another

What are the long term harmful side effects of the smallpox vaccine?
Are they less severe than the side effects of dying of smallpox?

I choose not to risk it

Some people aren't harmed by their stupid decisions.
Others end up killing themselves or their loved ones with their stupidity.
Hopefully your good luck will continue.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It's called public health for a reason. I have to give my dog a rabies vaccine for the same reason.

The Problem is vaccines don't stop all diseases, forcing people to take vaccines defeats the purpose. Not everybody can survive being given a vaccine, not everybody can afford vaccines, who are you to say that everyone has to take a vaccine?

The Problem is vaccines don't stop all diseases,

No. But they help...a lot.

forcing people to take vaccines defeats the purpose.

Stopping most disease...by force...defeats the purpose of stopping most disease?
You'll have to help me with your logic.....if you ever find it. Good luck!

Millions of people have not taken vaccines for those diseases and survived… Fact

Yup. And many were harmed or died because they did not get vaccines or because enough people around them did not get vaccines. Fact.

Collectivism is fucked up, fucking drones...

So is dying of a preventable disease, fucking morons....

 

[Rustic]

The Problem is vaccines don't stop all diseases, forcing people to take vaccines defeats the purpose. Not everybody can survive being given a vaccine, not everybody can afford vaccines, who are you to say that everyone has to take a vaccine?

The Problem is vaccines don't stop all diseases,

No. But they help...a lot.

forcing people to take vaccines defeats the purpose.

Stopping most disease...by force...defeats the purpose of stopping most disease?
You'll have to help me with your logic.....if you ever find it. Good luck!

Millions of people have not taken vaccines for those diseases and survived… Fact

Yup. And many were harmed or died because they did not get vaccines or because enough people around them did not get vaccines. Fact.

No one knows the long term harmful side effects of any vaccine one way or another. I choose not to risk it

No one knows the long term harmful side effects of any vaccine one way or another

What are the long term harmful side effects of the smallpox vaccine?
Are they less severe than the side effects of dying of smallpox?

I choose not to risk it

Some people aren't harmed by their stupid decisions.
Others end up killing themselves or their loved ones with their stupidity.
Hopefully your good luck will continue.

There is no way of knowing that, they could affect autoimmune systems. What is the reason for the rise of diabetes, autism and the like?
Luck has nothing to do with it, millions of people have not had any vaccines and survived just fine throughout the ages…

 

[Rustic]

The Problem is vaccines don't stop all diseases, forcing people to take vaccines defeats the purpose. Not everybody can survive being given a vaccine, not everybody can afford vaccines, who are you to say that everyone has to take a vaccine?

The Problem is vaccines don't stop all diseases,

No. But they help...a lot.

forcing people to take vaccines defeats the purpose.

Stopping most disease...by force...defeats the purpose of stopping most disease?
You'll have to help me with your logic.....if you ever find it. Good luck!

Millions of people have not taken vaccines for those diseases and survived… Fact

Yup. And many were harmed or died because they did not get vaccines or because enough people around them did not get vaccines. Fact.

Collectivism is fucked up, fucking drones...

So is dying of a preventable disease, fucking morons....

You do realize the vast majority of Indians on reservations have no vaccinations whatsoever? Vaccinations are not 100% reliable nor safe...

 

[Rustic]

The Problem is vaccines don't stop all diseases, forcing people to take vaccines defeats the purpose. Not everybody can survive being given a vaccine, not everybody can afford vaccines, who are you to say that everyone has to take a vaccine?

The Problem is vaccines don't stop all diseases,

No. But they help...a lot.

forcing people to take vaccines defeats the purpose.

Stopping most disease...by force...defeats the purpose of stopping most disease?
You'll have to help me with your logic.....if you ever find it. Good luck!

Millions of people have not taken vaccines for those diseases and survived… Fact

Yup. And many were harmed or died because they did not get vaccines or because enough people around them did not get vaccines. Fact.

No one knows the long term harmful side effects of any vaccine one way or another. I choose not to risk it

No one knows the long term harmful side effects of any vaccine one way or another

What are the long term harmful side effects of the smallpox vaccine?
Are they less severe than the side effects of dying of smallpox?

I choose not to risk it

Some people aren't harmed by their stupid decisions.
Others end up killing themselves or their loved ones with their stupidity.
Hopefully your good luck will continue.

This is where I was born and raised, and it's even worse now....

Pine Ridge Reservation
Humanitarian Rescue

STATISTICAL DATA

Despite nearly-insurmountable conditions, few resources, and against unbelievable odds, Indigenous people are struggling hard to overcome decades of neglect, discrimination and forced destruction of their traditional cultures to promote a life of self-respect and self-sufficiency.

BRIEF STATISTICS

* 97% of of the population at Pine Ridge Reservation live below federal poverty line.

* The unemployment rate vacillates from 85% to 95% on the Reservation.

* Death due to Heart Disease: Twice the national average.

* The infant mortality rate is the highest on this continent and is about 300% higher than the U.S. national average.

* Elderly die each winter from hypothermia (freezing).

* Recent reports point out that the median income on the Pine Ridge Reservation is approximately $2,600 to $3,500 per year.

* At least 60% of the homes are severely substandard, without water, electricity, adequate insulation, and sewage systems.

* Recent reports state the average life expectancy is 45 years old while others state that it is 48 years old for men and 52 years old for women. With either set of figures, that's the shortest life expectancy for any community in the Western Hemisphere outside Haiti, according to The Wall Street Journal.

INTRODUCTORY

Hidden away, dotted throughout the landscape of America, are the Reservations of the Indigenous People of our land. Mostly unknown or forgotten by the mainstream culture of the dominant U.S. society, the average United States resident knows little or nothing about these people other than what romanticized versions they see in movies and television or else in their nearest Reservation casino. Most assume that whatever poverty exists on a reservation is most certainly comparable to that which they might experience themselves.

And definitely, mainstream Americans are accustomed to being exposed to poverty. It has become nearly invisible due to its overwhelming presence everywhere. We drive through our cities now with a blind eye, numb to the suffering around us. Even more, we watch the televised reports of Third World countries, shake our heads and turn away, rightfully assuming that our government and our charities will help those in need all over the globe.

But the question begs: What about the foreign nations on America's own soil, within this country, a part and yet apart from mainstream society? What about the Native American Nations on America's reservations? Few mainstream Americans know anything about the people that live on these reservations and fewer still know or comprehend the unconscionable conditions present on many of them.

What many do not know is that a staggering number of residents on Native American reservations live in abject conditions rivaling, or even surpassing, that of many Third World countries.

This report chronicles just one Nation, the Oglala Lakota (Sioux) Nation of the Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota. Yet the name and only a few details could easily be changed to describe a host of others; Dineh (Navajo), Ute Mountain Ute, Tohono O'odham, Pima, Yaqui, Ojibwa, Chippewa, the list is long.

But despite nearly-insurmountable conditions, few resources, and against unbelievable odds, Nation after Nation of Indigenous leaders and their people are working hard to counteract decades of oppression and forced destruction of their cultures to bring their citizens back to a life of self-respect and self-sufficiency in today's world.



Below are further in depth statistics of Pine Ridge

IN DEPTH STATISTICS

* The Pine Ridge Oglala Lakota (Sioux) Indian Reservation sits in Bennett, Jackson, and Shannon Counties and is located in the southwest corner of South Dakota, fifty miles east of the Wyoming border.

* The 11,000-square mile (over 2 million acres) Oglala Lakota Pine Ridge Reservation is the second-largest Native American Reservation within the United States. It is roughly the size of the State of Connecticut.

* The Reservation is divided into eight districts: Eagle Nest, Pass Creek, Wakpamni, LaCreek, Pine Ridge, White Clay, Medicine Root, Porcupine, and Wounded Knee.

* The topography of the Pine Ridge Reservation includes badlands, rolling grassland hills, dryland prairie, and areas dotted with pine trees.

* According to the 1998 Bureau of Indian Affairs Census, the Pine Ridge Reservation is home to approximately 40,000 persons, 35% of which are under the age of 16. Approximately half the residents of the Reservation are registered tribal members of the Oglala Lakota Nation.

* The population is steadily rising, despite the severe conditions on the Reservation, as more and more Oglala Lakota return home from far-away cities in order to live within their societal values, be with their families, and assist with the revitalization of their culture and their Nation.

* Recent reports point out that the median income on the Pine Ridge Reservation is approximately $2,600 per year.

* The unemployment rate vacillates from 85% to 95% on the Reservation.

* There is no industry, technology, or commercial infrastructure on the Reservation to provide employment.

* The nearest town of size (which provides some jobs for those few persons able to travel the distance) is Rapid City, South Dakota with approximately 57,000 residents. It is located approximately 120 miles from the Reservation. The nearest large city to Pine Ridge is Denver, Colorado located about 350 miles away.

* Some figures state that the life expectancy on the Reservation is 48 years old for men and 52 for women. Other reports state that the average life expectancy on the Reservation is 45 years old. With either set of figures, that's the shortest life expectancy for a community anywhere in the Western Hemisphere outside Haiti, according to The Wall Street Journal.

* Teenage suicide rate on the Pine Ridge Reservation is 150% higher than the U.S. national average for this age group.

* The infant mortality rate is the highest on this continent and is about 300% higher than the U.S. national average.

* More than half the Reservation's adults battle addiction and disease. Alcoholism, diabetes, heart disease, cancer, and malnutrition are rampant.


* The rate of diabetes on the Reservation is reported to be 800% higher than the U.S. national average.

* Recent reports indicate that almost 50% of the adults on the Reservation over the age of 40 have diabetes. Over 37% of population is diabetic.

* As a result of the high rate of diabetes on the Reservation, diabetic-related blindness, amputations, and kidney failure are common.

* The tuberculosis rate on the Pine Ridge Reservation is approximately 800% higher than the U.S. national average.

* Cervical cancer is 500% higher than the U.S. national average.

* Each winter, Reservation Elders are found dead from hypothermia (freezing).

* It is reported that at least 60% of the homes on the Pine Ridge Reservation are infested with Black Mold, Stachybotrys. This infestation causes an often-fatal condition with infants, children, elderly, those with damaged immune systems, and those with lung and pulmonary conditions at the highest risk. Exposure to this mold can cause hemorrhaging of the lungs and brain as well as cancer.

* Many Reservation residents live without health care due to vast travel distances involved in accessing that care. Additional factors include under-funded, under-staffed medical facilities and outdated or non-existent medical equipment. There is little hope for increased funding for Indian health care.

* Preventive healthcare programs are rare.

* In most of the treaties between the U.S. Government and Indian Nations, the U.S. government agreed to provide adequate medical care for Indians in return for vast quantities of land. The Indian Health Services (IHS) was set up to administer the health care for Indians under these treaties and receives an appropriation each year to fund Indian health care. Unfortunately, the appropriation is very small compared to the need. The IHS is understaffed and ill-equipped and can't possibly address the needs of Indian communities. Nowhere is this more apparent than on the Pine Ridge Reservation.

* School drop-out rate is over 70%.

* According to a Bureau of Indian Affairs report, the Pine Ridge Reservation schools are in the bottom 10% of school funding by U.S. Department of Education and the Bureau of Indian Affairs.

* Teacher turnover is 800% that of the U.S. national average

* The small Tribal Housing Authority homes on the Pine Ridge Reservation are so overcrowded and scarce that many homeless families often use tents or cars for shelter. Many families live in shacks, old trailers, or dilapidated mobile homes.

* There is a large homeless population on the Reservation, but most families never turn away a relative no matter how distant the blood relation. Consequently, many homes have large numbers of people living in them.

* There is an estimated average of 17 people living in each family home (a home which may only have two to three rooms). Some homes, built for 6 to 8 people, have up to 30 people living in them.

* 60% of Reservation families have no telephone.

* Over 33% of the Reservation homes lack basic water and sewage systems as well as electricity.

* Many residents must carry (often contaminated) water from the local rivers daily for their personal needs.

* 39% of the homes on the Pine Ridge Reservation have no electricity.

* 59% of the Reservation homes are substandard.

* It is reported that at least 60% of the homes on the Pine Ridge Reservation need to be burned to the ground and replaced with new housing due to infestation of the potentially-fatal Black Mold, Stachybotrys. There is no insurance or government program to assist families in replacing their homes.

* Some Reservation families are forced to sleep on dirt floors.

* Many Reservation homes lack adequate insulation. Even more homes lack central heating.

* Without basic insulation or central heating in their homes, many residents on the Pine Ridge Reservation use their ovens to heat their homes.

* Many Reservation homes lack stoves, refrigerators, beds, and/or basic furniture.

* Most Reservation families live in rural and often isolated areas.

* The largest town on the Reservation is the town of Pine Ridge which has a population of approximately 5,720 people and is the administrative center for the Reservation.

* There are few improved roads on the Reservation and many of the homes are inaccessible during times of heavy snow or rain.

* Weather is extreme on the Reservation. Severe winds are always a factor. Traditionally, summer temperatures reach well over 110*F and winters bring bitter cold with temperatures that can reach -50*F below zero or worse. Flooding, tornados, or wildfires are always a risk.

* Many of the wells and much of the water and land on the Reservation is contaminated with pesticides and other poisons from farming, mining, open dumps, and commercial and governmental mining operations outside the Reservation. A further source of contamination is buried ordnance and hazardous materials from closed U.S. military bombing ranges on the Reservation.

* The Pine Ridge Reservation still has no banks, motels, discount stores, or movie theaters. It has only one grocery store of any moderate size and it is located in the town of Pine Ridge on the Reservation.

* Several of the banks and lending institutions nearest to the Reservation were recently targeted for investigation of fraudulent or predatory lending practices, with the citizens of the Pine Ridge Reservation as their victims.

* There are no public libraries except one at the Oglala Lakota College of the reservation.

* There is no public transportation available on the Reservation.

* Ownership of operable automobiles by residents of the Reservation is highly limited.

* Predominate form of travel for all ages on the Reservation is walking or hitchhiking.

* There is one very small airport on the Reservation servicing both the Pine Ridge Reservation and Shannon County. It's longest, paved runway extends 4,969 feet. There are no commercial flights available.

* There is one radio station on the Pine Ridge Reservation. KILI 90.1FM is located near the town of Porcupine on the Reservation.

* Alcoholism affects eight out of ten families on the Reservation.

* The death rate from alcohol-related problems on the Reservation is 300% higher than the remaining US population.

* The Oglala Lakota Nation has prohibited the sale and possession of alcohol on the Pine Ridge Reservation since the early 1970's. However, the town of Whiteclay, Nebraska (which sits 400 yards off the Reservation border in a contested "buffer" zone) has approximately 14 residents and four liquor stores which sell over 4.1 million cans of beer each year resulting in a $3million annual trade. Unlike other Nebraska communities, Whiteclay exists only to sell liquor and make money. It has no schools, no churches, no civic organizations, no parks, no benches, no public bathrooms, no fire service and no law enforcement. Tribal officials have repeatedly pleaded with the State of Nebraska to close these liquor stores or enforce the State laws regulating liquor stores but have been consistently refused.

* Scientific studies show that the High Plains/Oglala Aquifer which begins underneath the Pine Ridge Reservation is predicted to run dry within the next thirty years, possibly as early as the year 2005, due to commercial interest use and dryland farming in numerous states south of the Reservation. This critical North American underground water resource is not renewable at anything near the present consumption rate. The recent years of drought have simply accelerated the problem.

* Scientific studies show that much of the High Plains/Oglala Aquifer has been contaminated with farming pesticides and commercial, factory, mining, and industrial contaminants in the States of South Dakota, Wyoming, Nebraska, Kansas, Colorado, New Mexico, Oklahoma, and Texas.

* The Tribal nations are considered to have sovereign governmental status and have a government to government relationship with the United States. The Oglala Lakota Sioux Tribal government operates under a constitution consistent with the Indian Reorganization Act of 1934 and approved by the Tribal membership and Tribal Council of the Oglala Lakota Sioux Tribe. The Tribe is governed by an elected body consisting of a 5 member Executive Committee and an 18 member Tribal Council, all of whom serve a four year term.

(Compiled from recent political, government, and tribal publications)
If you wish a list of the resources and publications used for this report, please contact: Stephanie M. Schwartz at [email protected]

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The Problem is vaccines don't stop all diseases,

No. But they help...a lot.

forcing people to take vaccines defeats the purpose.

Stopping most disease...by force...defeats the purpose of stopping most disease?
You'll have to help me with your logic.....if you ever find it. Good luck!

Millions of people have not taken vaccines for those diseases and survived… Fact

Yup. And many were harmed or died because they did not get vaccines or because enough people around them did not get vaccines. Fact.

No one knows the long term harmful side effects of any vaccine one way or another. I choose not to risk it

No one knows the long term harmful side effects of any vaccine one way or another

What are the long term harmful side effects of the smallpox vaccine?
Are they less severe than the side effects of dying of smallpox?

I choose not to risk it

Some people aren't harmed by their stupid decisions.
Others end up killing themselves or their loved ones with their stupidity.
Hopefully your good luck will continue.

There is no way of knowing that, they could affect autoimmune systems. What is the reason for the rise of diabetes, autism and the like?
Luck has nothing to do with it, millions of people have not had any vaccines and survived just fine throughout the ages…

There is no way of knowing that, they could affect autoimmune systems

That's true, there is no way to know with absolute certainty.

What is the reason for the rise of diabetes, autism and the like?

Diabetes, overeating and lack of exercise play a huge part in that increase.
Autism, too soon to say.

Luck has nothing to do with it, millions of people have not had any vaccines and survived just fine throughout the ages…

And millions more didn't survive.
It's sad when people die now when their death could have been prevented by vaccines.
Sad when they just weren't available.
Sad when they were available but they didn't get them.
Practically criminal when they didn't get them because their parents were too stupid...or stubborn.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The Problem is vaccines don't stop all diseases,

No. But they help...a lot.

forcing people to take vaccines defeats the purpose.

Stopping most disease...by force...defeats the purpose of stopping most disease?
You'll have to help me with your logic.....if you ever find it. Good luck!

Millions of people have not taken vaccines for those diseases and survived… Fact

Yup. And many were harmed or died because they did not get vaccines or because enough people around them did not get vaccines. Fact.

Collectivism is fucked up, fucking drones...

So is dying of a preventable disease, fucking morons....

You do realize the vast majority of Indians on reservations have no vaccinations whatsoever? Vaccinations are not 100% reliable nor safe...

You do realize the vast majority of Indians on reservations have no vaccinations whatsoever?

And I'll bet they have higher instances of those diseases. And more deaths and injuries because of them.

Vaccinations are not 100% reliable nor safe...

And I've never claimed they were.

 

[Rustic]

Millions of people have not taken vaccines for those diseases and survived… Fact

Yup. And many were harmed or died because they did not get vaccines or because enough people around them did not get vaccines. Fact.

No one knows the long term harmful side effects of any vaccine one way or another. I choose not to risk it

No one knows the long term harmful side effects of any vaccine one way or another

What are the long term harmful side effects of the smallpox vaccine?
Are they less severe than the side effects of dying of smallpox?

I choose not to risk it

Some people aren't harmed by their stupid decisions.
Others end up killing themselves or their loved ones with their stupidity.
Hopefully your good luck will continue.

There is no way of knowing that, they could affect autoimmune systems. What is the reason for the rise of diabetes, autism and the like?
Luck has nothing to do with it, millions of people have not had any vaccines and survived just fine throughout the ages…

There is no way of knowing that, they could affect autoimmune systems

That's true, there is no way to know with absolute certainty.

What is the reason for the rise of diabetes, autism and the like?

Diabetes, overeating and lack of exercise play a huge part in that increase.
Autism, too soon to say.

Luck has nothing to do with it, millions of people have not had any vaccines and survived just fine throughout the ages…

And millions more didn't survive.
It's sad when people die now when their death could have been prevented by vaccines.
Sad when they just weren't available.
Sad when they were available but they didn't get them.
Practically criminal when they didn't get them because their parents were too stupid...or stubborn.

I think you're wrong there, growing up I knew no one that was getting vaccinations. Wheather it be they could not afford them or just did not want them or it was Against their culture?
On the Indian reservation growing up the main killers were alcohol abuse and diabetes… now days it's mainly meth and domestic abuse...
they are not dying of lack of vaccinations.

 

[Montrovant]

Are vaccines dangerous, or are they placebos?

You obviously don't understand my point, vaccines are only as good as the people "think" they are. And no vaccine should ever be forced on anybody for any reason. I've never had a vaccine Except for a flu shot back in the early 90s...

Are the negative effects of vaccines you have brought up also a placebo effect, then? Vaccines are neither helpful nor harmful, simply a psychological issue? What, are we getting saline injections when we get vaccines or something like that?

It's all about control, there is no reason whatsoever to force vaccines on anybody for any reason. People have died from vaccines, people want vaccines, and people refuse vaccines. Like a said it should be 100% choice… Anything else is evil

Whether it should be a choice or mandated by law is an entirely different question than whether or not vaccines are simply a placebo. You said vaccines are placebos. Was that an error, or can you explain the statement, particularly in relation to you also saying vaccines are dangerous?

So what you're saying vaccines kill nobody? Who says the vaccines are infallible? What about when vaccines don't work? There is such a thing as placebo, you know mind over matter.
And you are for forcing vaccines on people that want nothing to do with them?

I'm saying that if vaccines were merely a placebo, they would kill no one. The reason there are potential side effects from vaccines, rare though serious ones may be, is because vaccines are more than placebos.

 

[Rustic]

Millions of people have not taken vaccines for those diseases and survived… Fact

Yup. And many were harmed or died because they did not get vaccines or because enough people around them did not get vaccines. Fact.

Collectivism is fucked up, fucking drones...

So is dying of a preventable disease, fucking morons....

You do realize the vast majority of Indians on reservations have no vaccinations whatsoever? Vaccinations are not 100% reliable nor safe...

You do realize the vast majority of Indians on reservations have no vaccinations whatsoever?

And I'll bet they have higher instances of those diseases. And more deaths and injuries because of them.

Vaccinations are not 100% reliable nor safe...

And I've never claimed they were.

Lack of vaccinations is not what's killing Indians, it's self-inflicted. Meth/alcohol and domestic abuse.

 

[Rustic]

You obviously don't understand my point, vaccines are only as good as the people "think" they are. And no vaccine should ever be forced on anybody for any reason. I've never had a vaccine Except for a flu shot back in the early 90s...

Are the negative effects of vaccines you have brought up also a placebo effect, then? Vaccines are neither helpful nor harmful, simply a psychological issue? What, are we getting saline injections when we get vaccines or something like that?

It's all about control, there is no reason whatsoever to force vaccines on anybody for any reason. People have died from vaccines, people want vaccines, and people refuse vaccines. Like a said it should be 100% choice… Anything else is evil

Whether it should be a choice or mandated by law is an entirely different question than whether or not vaccines are simply a placebo. You said vaccines are placebos. Was that an error, or can you explain the statement, particularly in relation to you also saying vaccines are dangerous?

So what you're saying vaccines kill nobody? Who says the vaccines are infallible? What about when vaccines don't work? There is such a thing as placebo, you know mind over matter.
And you are for forcing vaccines on people that want nothing to do with them?

I'm saying that if vaccines were merely a placebo, they would kill no one. The reason there are potential side effects from vaccines, rare though serious ones may be, is because vaccines are more than placebos.

Exactly, that's why they should be a choice. Millions of people throughout the ages have survived just fine without them