Violence Has It's Home On The Left.

[LibocalypseNow]

You're not saddened, you're a twit. You're "fake" sad, to show your disapproval of "teh other team" like a little twat grade-schooler. You're not a MAN, and that you'd take place in a "violence has its home on the left" thread, and AGREE with it..............means your ignorant "sad" ass mocks all of the VICTIMS, read: Dead Bodies, of RIGHT WING extremists, of which there are plenty. You need a lesson in growing up, kid. Maybe it won't happen until a tragedy strikes YOUR life, but you and PC need help.

Wipe the spittle from yer suckhole dude. Yikes!

 

[G.T.]

You're not saddened, you're a twit. You're "fake" sad, to show your disapproval of "teh other team" like a little twat grade-schooler. You're not a MAN, and that you'd take place in a "violence has its home on the left" thread, and AGREE with it..............means your ignorant "sad" ass mocks all of the VICTIMS, read: Dead Bodies, of RIGHT WING extremists, of which there are plenty. You need a lesson in growing up, kid. Maybe it won't happen until a tragedy strikes YOUR life, but you and PC need help.

Wipe the spittle from yer suckhole dude. Yikes!

Your life is sad, oh partisanly blinded one.

 

[Father Time]

The saddest thing is that this Administration has fomented & manufactured this whole racial-tension thing. It's the Saul Alinsky "Community Organizer" way i guess. Just more Divide & Conquer from the Democrats. Is having the power really worth all this hate & division? This Administration will have blood on their hands if anything happens to any Arizona public official. It is very sad but it is what it is.

Yes because the Obama administration is clearly responsible for every nutbag in the U.S.

Are you even listening to yourself?

 

[G.T.]

The saddest thing is that this Administration has fomented & manufactured this whole racial-tension thing. It's the Saul Alinsky "Community Organizer" way i guess. Just more Divide & Conquer from the Democrats. Is having the power really worth all this hate & division? This Administration will have blood on their hands if anything happens to any Arizona public official. It is very sad but it is what it is.

Yes because the Obama administration is clearly responsible for every nutbag in the U.S.

Are you even listening to yourself?

His posting style can be paraphrased quite easily, and saves reading time:

"...............................................................................................................................................................................the left is stinky pooh...................................................................................................................................................i'm so sad............................................................................................................................"

 

[Father Time]

3. Post #6, left wing organizations responsible for actual violence, not imaginary threats, outside of presidential assassinations, including police and ordinary citizens.
Did I mention left wing?

All that still doesn't count for one fraction of all the violence the country has had, which you continue to claim is responsible from the left.



About as much as two drops of paint cover a wall.



The political leanings of most murderers for starters, you want to pretend violence is only done by people on the left, show me that's so.

"...right-wing violence like say the recent abortion murders?"
I'm a rightwinger, bonehead, if there are such examples of right wing violence, that would be your job....No?

So you wish to ignore those right wing murderers for as long as possible? Figures.

1. "...doesn't count for one fraction of all the violence the country has had,.."
Where are your stats?

Are you shitting me? Well ok how about this

Bureau of Justice Statistics Homicide Trends

That's a lot of murders.

2. "...The political leanings of most murderers for starters..."
No wonder you can't produce a coherent post...it's not murderers and their political leanings...its those WITH political leanings, and whether these political assassins are left or right...
Can you see the difference?
I didn't think so.

And even for that you have no numbers. Although if the majority of violence in this country is not politically motivated how the holy hell can violence have its home on the left?

3. "...So you wish to ignore those right wing murderers ..."
Another lacunae!!! The debate is to enforce one view or another....
Not both at once!

There have been violent right wingers and it's been pointed out to you many times, you can't ignore because it conflicts with your position.

And- you have produced no data to support your side of the argument.,,,
How long have you been here????

You made the extraordinary claim, you back it up.

Now, I know that this is beyond you, but for actual readers, let me show you the philosophical origins of violence as a political tool...and from whence it stems.

So violence was never used as a political tool before the 20th century? There was no ancient civilization that used it? That's quite an extraordinary claim.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

You're not saddened, you're a twit. You're "fake" sad, to show your disapproval of "teh other team" like a little twat grade-schooler. You're not a MAN, and that you'd take place in a "violence has its home on the left" thread, and AGREE with it..............means your ignorant "sad" ass mocks all of the VICTIMS, read: Dead Bodies, of RIGHT WING extremists, of which there are plenty. You need a lesson in growing up, kid. Maybe it won't happen until a tragedy strikes YOUR life, but you and PC need help.

Wipe the spittle from yer suckhole dude. Yikes!

Your life is sad, oh partisanly blinded one.

Chill dude. Wishing tragedy on others who disagree with you is just bad Karma. Do you even read your own posts. You're just as partisan as anyone. The difference is that you're still deluding yourself into thinking otherwise. You're kind of deranged dude. Uh hey,good luck with that though.

 

[G.T.]

Wipe the spittle from yer suckhole dude. Yikes!

Your life is sad, oh partisanly blinded one.

Chill dude. Wishing tragedy on others who disagree with you is just bad Karma. Do you even read your own posts. You're just as partisan as anyone. The difference is that you're still deluding yourself into thinking otherwise. You're kind of deranged dude. Uh hey,good luck with that though.

Know how everyone knows you're delusional?

Becuase you're the one saying violence is home on one side.

I'm the one saying it doesn't have a political "side" as its home.

And your clever retort is to call me, partisan and delusional.

You're actually pretty boring. It's not very difficult to keep up with your, uh, intellect......................so to speak.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

The saddest thing is that this Administration has fomented & manufactured this whole racial-tension thing. It's the Saul Alinsky "Community Organizer" way i guess. Just more Divide & Conquer from the Democrats. Is having the power really worth all this hate & division? This Administration will have blood on their hands if anything happens to any Arizona public official. It is very sad but it is what it is.

Yes because the Obama administration is clearly responsible for every nutbag in the U.S.

Are you even listening to yourself?

Not every nutbag but i do think they're responsible for the nutbags on the Left who are threatening death against Arizona public officials on a daily basis. This Administration has fomented and manufactured all this racial division stuff. So in my opinion they will have blood on their hands if anything happens to any Arizona public officials. They have encouraged this awful behavior. I just pray for all Arizona public officials who are receiving these daily death threats. God Bless em.

 

[G.T.]

 

[JScott]

My fellow board member, Rinata, disputed this statement; "...you are unaware of the fact that it is the left that is typically and repeatedly responsible for actual violence in our society..."

One of those political themes, supported by the left-wing press, and readily believed by the easily-led, is that political violence is suckled in the bosom of right wing cabals…

Let’s investigate the veracity of this view.

1. The current spin:

a. There are more death threats aimed at President Obama: “At a congressional hearing into the White House security breach that took place last week, when Tareq and Michaele Salahi "crashed" the White House state dinner, Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan said the current threat level against the president is normal.

"The threats right now ... is the same level as it has been for the previous two presidents at this point in their administrations," Sullivan said. Secret Service: Threats Against Obama No Higher than Normal - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

b. McCain-Palin rallies? The Times Leader of Wilkes-Barre, Pa., reports that the Secret Service can find no evidence that anyone shouted “Kill him!” in reference to Barack Obama at a recent Palin event (via Little Green Footballs).
The story was originally reported by a competitor, the Scranton Times-Tribune, which is standing by its reporter, David Singleton:
Mr. Singleton said the remark came from his right, amid booing that followed Mr. Hackett’s mention of Mr. Obama.
“ very distinctly heard, ‘Kill him!’ Male voice,” he said. “It was definitely back in the back.”
Media Nation So what about those death threats?

c. During the Bush presidency, liberals had actually produced books and movies about the fantasy of President Bush being assassinated.

2. Historic review:
every presidential assassin in the history of the nation has been a liberal- or has not been associated with a political outlook- none were right-wingers.

a. John Wilkes Booth was opposed to President Lincoln’s Republican war policies. THE MURDERER OF MR. LINCOLN. - Extraordinary Letter of John Wilkes Booth Proof that He Meditated His Crime Months Ago His Excuses for the Contemplated Act His Participation in the Execution of John Brown. Commissioners of Public Charities and Correct

b. Charles J. Guiteau, who shot President James Garfield, was part of a utopian commune, the Oneida Community, where free love was practiced. Ackerman, “Dark Horse: The Surprise Election and Political Murder of President James A. Garfield,” p.135

c. Leon Czolgosz, who killed President McKinley, was a socialist and anarchist, whose act was instigated by a speech he heard by socialist Emma Goldman. American Experience | Emma Goldman | Transcript | PBS

d. John Schrank, who shot and wounded Teddy Roosevelt in 1912, seemed to have no affiliation other than opposition to a third term. Theodore Roosevelt shot in Milwaukee — History.com This Day in History — 10/14/1912

e. Giuseppe Zangara, who came close to killing President Roosevelt in 1933, (he killed Mayor Cermak) hated the rich and sought to “make even with the capitalists.” Franklin D. Roosevelt Assassination Attempt - FBI Freedom of Information Act Files - Miami Public Pages

f. Lee Harvey Oswald, who shot JFK, had been a communist ever since he read a communist pamphlet about the Rosenbergs.

g. Sirhan Sirhan, who killed Robert Kennedy, was a Palestinian who hated Kennedy’s support of Israel.

h. Arthur Bremer shot George Wallace in 1972, due to Wallace’s support for segregation. Arthur Bremer Biography from Basic Famous People - Biographies of Celebrities and other Famous People Upon his release, Bremer showed no remorse: “ ‘shooting segregationist dinosaurs’ is not like shooting people because ‘they are extinct by act of God.’ This mention of God was the only blemish on Bremer’s otherwise impeccable liberal credentials.” Coulter, “Guilty,” p. 260.

i. Lynette ‘Squeaky’ Fromme, tried to shoot President Ford because she was incensed about the plight of the California redwoods. Gerald Ford Oultived His Obituary Writer

j. Sara Jane Moore also tried to kill President Ford because “the government had declared war on the left.” Interview: Woman Who Tried To Assassinate Ford 1/03/07 | abc7news.com

k. John Hinckley shot President Reagan to impress a girl. The jury found him “not guilty by reason of insanity.” “”…which is as good a definition of liberalism as I’ve heard.” Coulter, “Guilty.” P. 260.

Welcome to the real world, Rinata.

Too many generalizations to be true.

 

[PoliticalChic]

here is a pro-tip. ignore me, as i will only mock you further, ruminant.

dance with the posters who were specifically challenging your regurgitated bullshit, you have work to do.

Another empty post...your specialty.

Rather than cofront the work of Georges Sorel, you actually think your little personal attacks hold some sort of meaning?

Or that folks on your side will say 'Good boy, you go get 'er'....
and ingore the fact that you have no intelligent defense.

Well, they may say that, but they know you are no more than a fool who cannot come to grips with the fact that, historically your side is the one that is responsible for the violence that I outlined.

And, since it's birth in the French Revolution, and through syndicalism, fascism, nazism, progressivism, environmentalism, etc, the violence has always been part of the recipe.

You have no answer to this, do you....your expertise does not extent to ideas, only invective.

And your support of obscurantism is all you have left.

Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to enlighten others.

you still want to ram with me, ruminant?

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How hallucinatory to think that I am competing with you...

you aren't near my level!

You allow one to comment on the distinction between uneducated, and ignorant.

Nothing wrong with being uneducated: I deal with it daily, learning something new each day.

You, on the other hand, see no reason to learn, to accept instruction in areas where you have been mislead, or have not been lead at all. Thus you represent the poster child for ignorance.

Hint: a more erudite response would be to research, and find possibly, a connection between, say conservativism and and some necessary, or gratuitous use of violence.

As far as butting heads with you, it is only to use same as a vehicle to allow the correct knowledge to be disseminated, as it is, no doubt, clear to all, that you have no knowledge in this area.

 

[PoliticalChic]

All that still doesn't count for one fraction of all the violence the country has had, which you continue to claim is responsible from the left.



About as much as two drops of paint cover a wall.



The political leanings of most murderers for starters, you want to pretend violence is only done by people on the left, show me that's so.



So you wish to ignore those right wing murderers for as long as possible? Figures.

1. "...doesn't count for one fraction of all the violence the country has had,.."
Where are your stats?

Are you shitting me? Well ok how about this

Bureau of Justice Statistics Homicide Trends

That's a lot of murders.



And even for that you have no numbers. Although if the majority of violence in this country is not politically motivated how the holy hell can violence have its home on the left?



There have been violent right wingers and it's been pointed out to you many times, you can't ignore because it conflicts with your position.

And- you have produced no data to support your side of the argument.,,,
How long have you been here????

You made the extraordinary claim, you back it up.

Now, I know that this is beyond you, but for actual readers, let me show you the philosophical origins of violence as a political tool...and from whence it stems.

So violence was never used as a political tool before the 20th century? There was no ancient civilization that used it? That's quite an extraordinary claim.

Don't give up. Moses was once a basket case.

 

[JakeStarkey]

PC has a twisted view of violence as a tool of incorporation of American values.

The Puritans did it to the Indians. The Patriots did it to the Loyalists. The Unionists did it to the Confederates. The KKK did it to their opponents. The New Left did it during the 1960s. Now the militias and wacks of the right do it to their opponents.

Violence is American as apple pie, and it transcends political spectrum.

And that is the way it is.

 

[G.T.]

PC has a twisted view of violence as a tool of incorporation of American values.

The Puritans did it to the Indians. The Patriots did it to the Loyalists. The Unionists did it to the Confederates. The KKK did it to their opponents. The New Left did it during the 1960s. Now the militias and wacks of the right do it to their opponents.

Violence is American as apple pie, and it transcends political spectrum.

And that is the way it is.

Quoted for truth, and because it will be ignored

 

[Bfgrn]

In my opinion it's only a matter of time before a Leftist nutter follows through on their death threats against Arizona public officials. It's very sad.

Hey you right wing HACK, provide a link to your accusations. What's the problem???

 

[Valerie]

Don't give up. Moses was once a basket case.

*cough - cough*

... and rarely attack others for imaginary mental defects.

That is what separates us.

 

[JakeStarkey]

PC has a twisted view of violence as a tool of incorporation of American values.

The Puritans did it to the Indians. The Patriots did it to the Loyalists. The Unionists did it to the Confederates. The KKK did it to their opponents. The New Left did it during the 1960s. Now the militias and wacks of the right do it to their opponents.

Violence is American as apple pie, and it transcends political spectrum.

And that is the way it is.

Quoted for truth, and because it will be ignored

Unfortunately it will not turn away the political quacks out for power, not truth.

Also let's add the Stockman Range Association hiring Tom Horn to kill rustlers, squatters and farmers in Wyoming. The Mormons did it at Mountain Meadows. Tim McVeigh did it at Oklahoma City. The "old settlers" in Missouri did it to the Mormons at Haun's Mill. Indian warriors and colonial and U.S. troops did it continually to each other and their families, when they could. John Brown did it at Pottawatomie Creek and at Harper's Ferry. The government did it to the Davidians. The black state troops did it to unreconstructed Confederates at Linn Flat, Texas, after the Civil War. The Border Ruffians and the Jayhawkers did it to everybody the could catch!

Violence as a tool of incorporation of American values began long before Africans and Europeans came to the New World.

 

[Rinata]

In my opinion it's only a matter of time before a Leftist nutter follows through on their death threats against Arizona public officials. It's very sad.

I have not heard of anything like that. Please provide some proof. Or are you just making it up???

 

[AllieBaba]

In my opinion it's only a matter of time before a Leftist nutter follows through on their death threats against Arizona public officials. It's very sad.

I have not heard of anything like that. Please provide some proof. Or are you just making it up???

There's been a hit out on that sheriff forever. More than one, I do believe.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Speak as loud as you want, Allie, no one gives a damn what you say.