Votes must be counted by the end of Election Day.

Or must they?


Donald Trump at a rally in Iowa “We should know the result of the election on November 3rd, the evening of November 3rd. That’s the way it's been and that's the way it should be."

Except when it’s not. In fact...it has never been that way.

There has never been a requirement...or even an expectation that all ballots be tabulated by the end of Election Day. And they usually are not. It typically takes longer to count absentee ballots, which, by law, are just as valid as any other.

So if you want to know the way it has really always been, don’t listen to Trump who’s goal is to disenfranchise mail in voters.

For starters, no state ever reports its final results on election night.

Typically, news outlets are able to declare winners the night of the election using partial counts and exit polls, which allow them to see how much of the vote is going to which candidate and calculate whether a candidate still has a path forward to win.

Each state has its own laws for when it needs to certify the election results, and none falls on Election Day.

Delaware is the only state that will certify its results within the same week as Election Day. Most states will certify their results in the last two weeks of November, with some states even extending until the second week of December.

Additionally, polls don't even close in California, Oregon, Idaho and Washington until 11 p.m. ET, and Hawaii's polls don't close until midnight on the East Coast.

The problem is this stupid mail in voting. In PA, they are accepting ballots up to three days after the election which should be against the law. Everybody is predicting PA will be the real decider, and that it will be a close election. We might not find out until next week or longer who actually won unless it's a blowout one way or another.
Your impatience must necessarily take a back seat to a citizen's right to have their vote counted.
Explain tactically why anyone who can request a mail-in ballot at least 2 months before a certain date cannot return by that stated date.
 
Nope.

Decided. Unofficially. Not certified, and ballots were still being counted as they were in Florida In 2000. So now you insisting that count must end by the end of Election Day?
Why do you lefties always have to spin what is said ?
I didn't stutter.

I was wrong though. There've been 4 elections still undecided after election day......not 3......

 
Or must they?


Donald Trump at a rally in Iowa “We should know the result of the election on November 3rd, the evening of November 3rd. That’s the way it's been and that's the way it should be."

Except when it’s not. In fact...it has never been that way.

There has never been a requirement...or even an expectation that all ballots be tabulated by the end of Election Day. And they usually are not. It typically takes longer to count absentee ballots, which, by law, are just as valid as any other.

So if you want to know the way it has really always been, don’t listen to Trump who’s goal is to disenfranchise mail in voters.

For starters, no state ever reports its final results on election night.

Typically, news outlets are able to declare winners the night of the election using partial counts and exit polls, which allow them to see how much of the vote is going to which candidate and calculate whether a candidate still has a path forward to win.

Each state has its own laws for when it needs to certify the election results, and none falls on Election Day.

Delaware is the only state that will certify its results within the same week as Election Day. Most states will certify their results in the last two weeks of November, with some states even extending until the second week of December.

Additionally, polls don't even close in California, Oregon, Idaho and Washington until 11 p.m. ET, and Hawaii's polls don't close until midnight on the East Coast.
quit your fucking whining, it gets really sickening. reality always was a killer to the scum of the demonrats
 
Yes! Because we all know it's the overseas service members who are responsible for all the constant voter fraud in Dem controlled areas. Those dang soldiers steal every election with their "right" to vote for non-marxist/fascists & it's just not fair!!! :auiqs.jpg: :auiqs.jpg: :auiqs.jpg:
Oh...that “constant voter fraud” myth. Other than isolated cases, it’s largely unsubstantiated. So...what is your p,an here for disenfranchising voters? Select out the military ones and dump the rest?
The military votes are insignificant compared to the massive voter fraud brought to us by Dems ever cycle. They have been cheating since before the days of Boss Tweed in Tammany Hall. Repubs do it too but it is not one of the unspoken founding principles like it has always been for your side.
The isolated cases claim is a fallacy & I think you know that. I can prove my position, can you?
My solution is to get your ballot in on time unless you are in the military. They have fought for the right to have their vote counted. For the rest, it's better luck next time & try to pay attention to dates
 
Or must they?


Donald Trump at a rally in Iowa “We should know the result of the election on November 3rd, the evening of November 3rd. That’s the way it's been and that's the way it should be."

Except when it’s not. In fact...it has never been that way.

There has never been a requirement...or even an expectation that all ballots be tabulated by the end of Election Day. And they usually are not. It typically takes longer to count absentee ballots, which, by law, are just as valid as any other.

So if you want to know the way it has really always been, don’t listen to Trump who’s goal is to disenfranchise mail in voters.

For starters, no state ever reports its final results on election night.

Typically, news outlets are able to declare winners the night of the election using partial counts and exit polls, which allow them to see how much of the vote is going to which candidate and calculate whether a candidate still has a path forward to win.

Each state has its own laws for when it needs to certify the election results, and none falls on Election Day.

Delaware is the only state that will certify its results within the same week as Election Day. Most states will certify their results in the last two weeks of November, with some states even extending until the second week of December.

Additionally, polls don't even close in California, Oregon, Idaho and Washington until 11 p.m. ET, and Hawaii's polls don't close until midnight on the East Coast.

So typically news networks call the winner, the opposition Party concedes and America knows who their president is, unless the winner is a former businessman?

For the first time, a loser didn't concede on election night when Hillary didn't come out. Now they are setting the scene for another delay. A la, Florida, GA governors races. NJ Primary, apps crashing etc.

At best, it impacts Americas faith in the system. Maybe some just believe the working class in America can be replaced by the opening up of the wall so they don't care...
 
Or must they?


Donald Trump at a rally in Iowa “We should know the result of the election on November 3rd, the evening of November 3rd. That’s the way it's been and that's the way it should be."

Except when it’s not. In fact...it has never been that way.

There has never been a requirement...or even an expectation that all ballots be tabulated by the end of Election Day. And they usually are not. It typically takes longer to count absentee ballots, which, by law, are just as valid as any other.

So if you want to know the way it has really always been, don’t listen to Trump who’s goal is to disenfranchise mail in voters.

For starters, no state ever reports its final results on election night.

Typically, news outlets are able to declare winners the night of the election using partial counts and exit polls, which allow them to see how much of the vote is going to which candidate and calculate whether a candidate still has a path forward to win.

Each state has its own laws for when it needs to certify the election results, and none falls on Election Day.

Delaware is the only state that will certify its results within the same week as Election Day. Most states will certify their results in the last two weeks of November, with some states even extending until the second week of December.

Additionally, polls don't even close in California, Oregon, Idaho and Washington until 11 p.m. ET, and Hawaii's polls don't close until midnight on the East Coast.
If your absentee ballot isn't in by tomorrow in MN, it won't be counted. Breaking News - Appeals court rules absentee ballots must be in 8pm election day in MN..
 
Except when it’s not. In fact...it has never been that way.
Never ?
Actually every presidential election has been decided
on election day
except for 3 - the 2000 election and two others in the 1800's.
Absolutely and unequivocally wrong.

The News might "call" a race and a candidate might concede...but it is NEVER official on election day. NEVER
 
Except when it’s not. In fact...it has never been that way.
Never ?
Actually every presidential election has been decided
on election day
except for 3 - the 2000 election and two others in the 1800's.
Absolutely and unequivocally wrong.

The News might "call" a race and a candidate might concede...but it is NEVER official on election day. NEVER
The votes are in by the end of election day.
 
Or must they?


Donald Trump at a rally in Iowa “We should know the result of the election on November 3rd, the evening of November 3rd. That’s the way it's been and that's the way it should be."

Except when it’s not. In fact...it has never been that way.

There has never been a requirement...or even an expectation that all ballots be tabulated by the end of Election Day. And they usually are not. It typically takes longer to count absentee ballots, which, by law, are just as valid as any other.

So if you want to know the way it has really always been, don’t listen to Trump who’s goal is to disenfranchise mail in voters.

For starters, no state ever reports its final results on election night.

Typically, news outlets are able to declare winners the night of the election using partial counts and exit polls, which allow them to see how much of the vote is going to which candidate and calculate whether a candidate still has a path forward to win.

Each state has its own laws for when it needs to certify the election results, and none falls on Election Day.

Delaware is the only state that will certify its results within the same week as Election Day. Most states will certify their results in the last two weeks of November, with some states even extending until the second week of December.

Additionally, polls don't even close in California, Oregon, Idaho and Washington until 11 p.m. ET, and Hawaii's polls don't close until midnight on the East Coast.

So typically news networks call the winner, the opposition Party concedes and America knows who their president is, unless the winner is a former businessman?

For the first time, a loser didn't concede on election night when Hillary didn't come out. Now they are setting the scene for another delay. A la, Florida, GA governors races. NJ Primary, apps crashing etc.

At best, it impacts Americas faith in the system. Maybe some just believe the working class in America can be replaced by the opening up of the wall so they don't care...
There is no legal expectation of a concession.

It's just not THERE . A concession is voluntary. That's all

The faith in the system...demands that all legal votes be counted.
 
Or must they?


Donald Trump at a rally in Iowa “We should know the result of the election on November 3rd, the evening of November 3rd. That’s the way it's been and that's the way it should be."

Except when it’s not. In fact...it has never been that way.

There has never been a requirement...or even an expectation that all ballots be tabulated by the end of Election Day. And they usually are not. It typically takes longer to count absentee ballots, which, by law, are just as valid as any other.

So if you want to know the way it has really always been, don’t listen to Trump who’s goal is to disenfranchise mail in voters.

For starters, no state ever reports its final results on election night.

Typically, news outlets are able to declare winners the night of the election using partial counts and exit polls, which allow them to see how much of the vote is going to which candidate and calculate whether a candidate still has a path forward to win.

Each state has its own laws for when it needs to certify the election results, and none falls on Election Day.

Delaware is the only state that will certify its results within the same week as Election Day. Most states will certify their results in the last two weeks of November, with some states even extending until the second week of December.

Additionally, polls don't even close in California, Oregon, Idaho and Washington until 11 p.m. ET, and Hawaii's polls don't close until midnight on the East Coast.

The problem is this stupid mail in voting. In PA, they are accepting ballots up to three days after the election which should be against the law. Everybody is predicting PA will be the real decider, and that it will be a close election. We might not find out until next week or longer who actually won unless it's a blowout one way or another.

I am not predicting PA will be the decider. I can certainly say that Trump will have won it by the end of the election day, whether democrats will even bother with the cheating attempts knowing they will lose no matter what is a good question.

But if they do, I can't wait for them to get caught and jailed.
 
Or must they?


Donald Trump at a rally in Iowa “We should know the result of the election on November 3rd, the evening of November 3rd. That’s the way it's been and that's the way it should be."

Except when it’s not. In fact...it has never been that way.

There has never been a requirement...or even an expectation that all ballots be tabulated by the end of Election Day. And they usually are not. It typically takes longer to count absentee ballots, which, by law, are just as valid as any other.

So if you want to know the way it has really always been, don’t listen to Trump who’s goal is to disenfranchise mail in voters.

For starters, no state ever reports its final results on election night.

Typically, news outlets are able to declare winners the night of the election using partial counts and exit polls, which allow them to see how much of the vote is going to which candidate and calculate whether a candidate still has a path forward to win.

Each state has its own laws for when it needs to certify the election results, and none falls on Election Day.

Delaware is the only state that will certify its results within the same week as Election Day. Most states will certify their results in the last two weeks of November, with some states even extending until the second week of December.

Additionally, polls don't even close in California, Oregon, Idaho and Washington until 11 p.m. ET, and Hawaii's polls don't close until midnight on the East Coast.

The problem is this stupid mail in voting. In PA, they are accepting ballots up to three days after the election which should be against the law. Everybody is predicting PA will be the real decider, and that it will be a close election. We might not find out until next week or longer who actually won unless it's a blowout one way or another.
Your impatience must necessarily take a back seat to a citizen's right to have their vote counted.
Explain tactically why anyone who can request a mail-in ballot at least 2 months before a certain date cannot return by that stated date.
That's not the question.

The ONLY question is...what are the laws and rules of that state?
 
Or must they?


Donald Trump at a rally in Iowa “We should know the result of the election on November 3rd, the evening of November 3rd. That’s the way it's been and that's the way it should be."

Except when it’s not. In fact...it has never been that way.

There has never been a requirement...or even an expectation that all ballots be tabulated by the end of Election Day. And they usually are not. It typically takes longer to count absentee ballots, which, by law, are just as valid as any other.

So if you want to know the way it has really always been, don’t listen to Trump who’s goal is to disenfranchise mail in voters.

For starters, no state ever reports its final results on election night.

Typically, news outlets are able to declare winners the night of the election using partial counts and exit polls, which allow them to see how much of the vote is going to which candidate and calculate whether a candidate still has a path forward to win.

Each state has its own laws for when it needs to certify the election results, and none falls on Election Day.

Delaware is the only state that will certify its results within the same week as Election Day. Most states will certify their results in the last two weeks of November, with some states even extending until the second week of December.

Additionally, polls don't even close in California, Oregon, Idaho and Washington until 11 p.m. ET, and Hawaii's polls don't close until midnight on the East Coast.

The problem is this stupid mail in voting. In PA, they are accepting ballots up to three days after the election which should be against the law. Everybody is predicting PA will be the real decider, and that it will be a close election. We might not find out until next week or longer who actually won unless it's a blowout one way or another.
Your impatience must necessarily take a back seat to a citizen's right to have their vote counted.
Explain tactically why anyone who can request a mail-in ballot at least 2 months before a certain date cannot return by that stated date.
That's not the question.

The ONLY question is...what are the laws and rules of that state?
Those rules need to be revisited thanks to modern day technology.
 
It’s funny to see those who “disagree”....disagree with what? Facts? History?
The elections have been 'called' by AP on the same day for the most part, and the apparent loser concedes, though Gore and probably Biden will be the exception.

This is the first election where neither side agrees to concede on election day and will fight it out in court.

The thing is, I think Trump will have such a large margin of victory it won't matter and the election will still get called within a couple of days, certainly by COB Friday, probably not even that late.
 
Absolutely and unequivocally wrong.

The News might "call" a race and a candidate might concede...but it is NEVER official on election day. NEVER
This is what the OP said.
There has never been a requirement...or even an expectation that all ballots be tabulated by the end of Election Day.
TDS thread # 984,336 debunked.
 
The problem is this stupid mail in voting. In PA, they are accepting ballots up to three days after the election which should be against the law. Everybody is predicting PA will be the real decider, and that it will be a close election. We might not find out until next week or longer who actually won unless it's a blowout one way or another.
I am not predicting PA will be the decider. I can certainly say that Trump will have won it by the end of the election day, whether democrats will even bother with the cheating attempts knowing they will lose no matter what is a good question.
But if they do, I can't wait for them to get caught and jailed.
Trump does not need PA to win. If he wins all the other states he won in 2016, other than MI, WI, PA and MN, all he needs is one of those four and he wins again.
 
Or must they?


Donald Trump at a rally in Iowa “We should know the result of the election on November 3rd, the evening of November 3rd. That’s the way it's been and that's the way it should be."

Except when it’s not. In fact...it has never been that way.

There has never been a requirement...or even an expectation that all ballots be tabulated by the end of Election Day. And they usually are not. It typically takes longer to count absentee ballots, which, by law, are just as valid as any other.

So if you want to know the way it has really always been, don’t listen to Trump who’s goal is to disenfranchise mail in voters.

For starters, no state ever reports its final results on election night.

Typically, news outlets are able to declare winners the night of the election using partial counts and exit polls, which allow them to see how much of the vote is going to which candidate and calculate whether a candidate still has a path forward to win.

Each state has its own laws for when it needs to certify the election results, and none falls on Election Day.

Delaware is the only state that will certify its results within the same week as Election Day. Most states will certify their results in the last two weeks of November, with some states even extending until the second week of December.

Additionally, polls don't even close in California, Oregon, Idaho and Washington until 11 p.m. ET, and Hawaii's polls don't close until midnight on the East Coast.

The problem is this stupid mail in voting. In PA, they are accepting ballots up to three days after the election which should be against the law. Everybody is predicting PA will be the real decider, and that it will be a close election. We might not find out until next week or longer who actually won unless it's a blowout one way or another.

If they're post marked on or before election day they should be counted. Are you willing to throw all those republican ballots out from overseas?
 
The problem is this stupid mail in voting. In PA, they are accepting ballots up to three days after the election which should be against the law. Everybody is predicting PA will be the real decider, and that it will be a close election. We might not find out until next week or longer who actually won unless it's a blowout one way or another.
I am not predicting PA will be the decider. I can certainly say that Trump will have won it by the end of the election day, whether democrats will even bother with the cheating attempts knowing they will lose no matter what is a good question.
But if they do, I can't wait for them to get caught and jailed.
Trump does not need PA to win. If he wins all the other states he won in 2016, other than MI, WI, PA and MN, all he needs is one of those four and he wins again.

Indeed, and Trump will win much bigger this time.
 
Or must they?


Donald Trump at a rally in Iowa “We should know the result of the election on November 3rd, the evening of November 3rd. That’s the way it's been and that's the way it should be."

Except when it’s not. In fact...it has never been that way.

There has never been a requirement...or even an expectation that all ballots be tabulated by the end of Election Day. And they usually are not. It typically takes longer to count absentee ballots, which, by law, are just as valid as any other.

So if you want to know the way it has really always been, don’t listen to Trump who’s goal is to disenfranchise mail in voters.

For starters, no state ever reports its final results on election night.

Typically, news outlets are able to declare winners the night of the election using partial counts and exit polls, which allow them to see how much of the vote is going to which candidate and calculate whether a candidate still has a path forward to win.

Each state has its own laws for when it needs to certify the election results, and none falls on Election Day.

Delaware is the only state that will certify its results within the same week as Election Day. Most states will certify their results in the last two weeks of November, with some states even extending until the second week of December.

Additionally, polls don't even close in California, Oregon, Idaho and Washington until 11 p.m. ET, and Hawaii's polls don't close until midnight on the East Coast.

The problem is this stupid mail in voting. In PA, they are accepting ballots up to three days after the election which should be against the law. Everybody is predicting PA will be the real decider, and that it will be a close election. We might not find out until next week or longer who actually won unless it's a blowout one way or another.

In 2000, we waited almost 5 weeks until the SC had to "declare" a winner. Couple of days doesn't seem like a whole lot. :)


The Court did not declare a winner. The court stopped an attempt by Gore to steal the election. You are a retarded asshole.
 
I am not predicting PA will be the decider. I can certainly say that Trump will have won it by the end of the election day, whether democrats will even bother with the cheating attempts knowing they will lose no matter what is a good question.

But if they do, I can't wait for them to get caught and jailed.

The problem is that it was ruled by a judge they can do this, so there's nothing really illegal about it. If Biden loses by a slim margin, those lowlifes could mail in their ballot Wednesday morning and it will still be counted as a legitimate vote. From what I gather, the judge even said postmarks don't mean anything.
 

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