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this is a serious question, please only reply with serious comments.
what specifically do liberals want the US to become?
Tell us exactly what you want changed, and why.
It would help if people could learn at least enough of the basics of political science to realize liberalism is an ideology with certain tenets rather than just describing a person. This Manichaean insistence that people are divided into just two political groups is part of the problem instead of part of the solution.
People can call themselves "liberal" all they want, but unless they are operating from the standpoint of advancing liberal values, they are just left wing fundamentalists.
The shortest answer I can give here , though, is that liberalism places greater value on social justice than social order. The "conserve" in conservatism refers to the preservation of social order over social justice.
Seriously?this is a serious question, please only reply with serious comments.
what specifically do liberals want the US to become?
Tell us exactly what you want changed, and why.
OK, now you need to define "social justice". Who decides what is "socially just" ?
You just pretty much described China, or North Korea.I would replace the world liberal with progressive statist. Today's liberals are not liberals in the classical sense.
Progressive statists want a supreme federal government, where people are totally dependent on the state, and thus the state is an inseparable part of their lives. On the social front, they want everyone to either agree with them, or be ostracized and eliminated from society, or at least to just shut up in public.
Define the difference between 'social order' and 'social justice.'The shortest answer I can give here , though, is that liberalism places greater value on social justice than social order. The "conserve" in conservatism refers to the preservation of social order over social justice.
No liberal wants a country where everyone is totally dependent on the stateI would replace the world liberal with progressive statist. Today's liberals are not liberals in the classical sense.
Progressive statists want a supreme federal government, where people are totally dependent on the state, and thus the state is an inseparable part of their lives. On the social front, they want everyone to either agree with them, or be ostracized and eliminated from society, or at least to just shut up in public.
Seriously?this is a serious question, please only reply with serious comments.
what specifically do liberals want the US to become?
Tell us exactly what you want changed, and why.
Liberals want a country that provides a level playing field for all people regardless of race, sex, sexuality or social class
Liberals want to help those who need helping
And that is a bald faced lie.No liberal wants a country where everyone is totally dependent on the stateI would replace the world liberal with progressive statist. Today's liberals are not liberals in the classical sense.
Progressive statists want a supreme federal government, where people are totally dependent on the state, and thus the state is an inseparable part of their lives. On the social front, they want everyone to either agree with them, or be ostracized and eliminated from society, or at least to just shut up in public.
Stop making shit up
No liberal wants a country where everyone is totally dependent on the stateI would replace the world liberal with progressive statist. Today's liberals are not liberals in the classical sense.
Progressive statists want a supreme federal government, where people are totally dependent on the state, and thus the state is an inseparable part of their lives. On the social front, they want everyone to either agree with them, or be ostracized and eliminated from society, or at least to just shut up in public.
Stop making shit up
We don't want to read what John Rawls says about it, we want to hear how YOU define it... and we're waiting...OK, now you need to define "social justice". Who decides what is "socially just" ?
I would suggest you read some John Rawls on the subject.
this is a serious question, please only reply with serious comments.
what specifically do liberals want the US to become?
Tell us exactly what you want changed, and why.
My take is that the hardcore left is after a solid social democracy, perhaps a step or two to the left of modern-day France.
They do reference Sweden quite a bit, which indeed would be quite a change.
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No liberal wants a country where everyone is totally dependent on the stateI would replace the world liberal with progressive statist. Today's liberals are not liberals in the classical sense.
Progressive statists want a supreme federal government, where people are totally dependent on the state, and thus the state is an inseparable part of their lives. On the social front, they want everyone to either agree with them, or be ostracized and eliminated from society, or at least to just shut up in public.
Stop making shit up
Define the difference between 'social order' and 'social justice.'