What exactly do republicans have to offer blacks?

[sealybobo]

Yeah I don't know if the store owners were breaking the law and guess what neither do you I just don't assume they were

The reason I asked is because white business owners frequently do things like this. So its not really an assumption on my part. Its an expectation.

Wages Are Unequal Between White and Black Men Even When Other Factors Are Comparable

Did you even read that article? The difference in the "unequal" wages between white and black men that they cited was $3,000 on salaries of $124,000 to $121,000! You want to talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill? That's ABSURD!!!

Not sure why you think its ok to short Black people 3k because they are Black? Would you be good with getting paid 1 cent less for doing the same work someone else did?

But we but we don’t do the exact same work. ....what I make is no one else’s business. ....no.

Why?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

There is no democratic plantation. Blacks are able to think for ourselves. The two major reforms relative to racial equality of the last 60 years were democratic proposals. The overall platform of the democratic party deals with issues the large majority of blacks face. So what exactly does the republican party offer blacks?. We are free, so republicans don't offer that. So aside from the fact Lincoln signed a piece of paper 153 years ago, what does the republican party have to offer?

Visit the inner cities, then tell us what the Democrats have done for the black community, let's say over the last half century.

Yeah, how about answering the OP's question?

 

[sealybobo]

There is no democratic plantation. Blacks are able to think for ourselves. The two major reforms relative to racial equality of the last 60 years were democratic proposals. The overall platform of the democratic party deals with issues the large majority of blacks face. So what exactly does the republican party offer blacks?. We are free, so republicans don't offer that. So aside from the fact Lincoln signed a piece of paper 153 years ago, what does the republican party have to offer?

Hey Blacks! you should vote republican!.....sure....we call you lazy...and criminals......and use the N word as often as we can get away with.....and would never hire you for anything but the most degrading positions.....and we talk about how you are an inferior subhuman race.....But we also have a lot to offer!...We believe in the christian god and so do you!....so we can HATE gays and atheists and feminists and muslims together!....well...separately.....you can hunt them down in your neck of the woods and we'll hunt them down in our mcmansions.....Look at it this way....any liberal you "take care of" is one more job available for black people!.....

They can’t even recognize their bias.

We recognize your blatant and disgusting racism.

Sealybobo is white.

It would be like Archie bunker trying to argue that it’s actually meathead who’s the racist

 

[sealybobo]

Yeah I don't know if the store owners were breaking the law and guess what neither do you I just don't assume they were

The reason I asked is because white business owners frequently do things like this. So its not really an assumption on my part. Its an expectation.

Wages Are Unequal Between White and Black Men Even When Other Factors Are Comparable

Did you even read that article? The difference in the "unequal" wages between white and black men that they cited was $3,000 on salaries of $124,000 to $121,000! You want to talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill? That's ABSURD!!!

Not sure why you think its ok to short Black people 3k because they are Black? Would you be good with getting paid 1 cent less for doing the same work someone else did?

But we but we don’t do the exact same work. ....what I make is no one else’s business. ....no.

One more thing. I only speak for blacks when it’s obvious. When you hear me say something blacks believe that you think is untrue you tell me. And not Kanye or Ben carson

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

There is no democratic plantation. Blacks are able to think for ourselves. The two major reforms relative to racial equality of the last 60 years were democratic proposals. The overall platform of the democratic party deals with issues the large majority of blacks face. So what exactly does the republican party offer blacks?. We are free, so republicans don't offer that. So aside from the fact Lincoln signed a piece of paper 153 years ago, what does the republican party have to offer?

Visit the inner cities, then tell us what the Democrats have done for the black community, let's say over the last half century.

Yeah, how about answering the OP's question?

Everything the Democrats have not.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

There is no democratic plantation. Blacks are able to think for ourselves. The two major reforms relative to racial equality of the last 60 years were democratic proposals. The overall platform of the democratic party deals with issues the large majority of blacks face. So what exactly does the republican party offer blacks?. We are free, so republicans don't offer that. So aside from the fact Lincoln signed a piece of paper 153 years ago, what does the republican party have to offer?

Visit the inner cities, then tell us what the Democrats have done for the black community, let's say over the last half century.

Yeah, how about answering the OP's question?

Everything the Democrats have not.

Which is... what, exactly? You are long on answers and almost non-existent on details.

 

[Unkotare]

The reason I asked is because white business owners frequently do things like this. So its not really an assumption on my part. Its an expectation.

Wages Are Unequal Between White and Black Men Even When Other Factors Are Comparable

Did you even read that article? The difference in the "unequal" wages between white and black men that they cited was $3,000 on salaries of $124,000 to $121,000! You want to talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill? That's ABSURD!!!

Not sure why you think its ok to short Black people 3k because they are Black? Would you be good with getting paid 1 cent less for doing the same work someone else did?

But we but we don’t do the exact same work. ....what I make is no one else’s business. ....no.

One more thing. I only speak for blacks when it’s obvious. When you hear me say something blacks believe that you think is untrue you tell me. And not Kanye or Ben carson

Oh, what a gracious white man you are! Not only telling ‘your’ black people what to think and why to feel a certain way, but to tell them who among them is really black or not! How generous of you! How magnanimous. I’ll tell you what dumbass, why don’t you go ask one of the resident black racists around here, there are a few now, how thankful they are for your generosity in whitesplanning everything for them? I’m sure they are just waiting for an opportunity to express their gratitude to you for telling them what to think and why they feel a certain way and who is really black and who really isn’t according to you.


Racist douche.

 

[Oldstyle]

That’s not the way ceos and board of directors see it.

How in the fuck would you know?

You have zero interaction with CEO's or anyone above middle management

They are leaning on vps to find minorities and women to become vps. My brother is in hr he says companies can’t find blacks and women to stay because other companies steal them away. My brothers predisessor is going to go to another company for double the money. $1 now she’ll be making $2 mill at the new place. Maybe when 50% of the vps are either women or minorities white men will once again make the same as women make. Right now 9 out of ten vps is a white male. So what if the 1 woman or minority makes more because they are highly sought after. I’d rather be a white because remember 9 out of ten of the vps is a white male. It’s good to be a white male. I know I am one

You confuse the work place for the federal government.

Companies that survive seek the best individual for the job. Race isn't a factor.

Untrue.

Unk is a fucking idiot. He is always saying something stupid. If race wasnt a factor there would be no wage gap between Blacks and whites doing the exact same thing. Its well documented that a college educated Black mans main competition for employment is a white guy that barely graduated high school.

Actually the main competition for a college educated black man is a college educated black woman...of which there are a hell of a lot more than there ever used to be. In the future it will be a college educated Hispanic woman. Welcome to the new America...

 

[Unkotare]

The reason I asked is because white business owners frequently do things like this. So its not really an assumption on my part. Its an expectation.

Wages Are Unequal Between White and Black Men Even When Other Factors Are Comparable

Did you even read that article? The difference in the "unequal" wages between white and black men that they cited was $3,000 on salaries of $124,000 to $121,000! You want to talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill? That's ABSURD!!!

Not sure why you think its ok to short Black people 3k because they are Black? Would you be good with getting paid 1 cent less for doing the same work someone else did?

But we but we don’t do the exact same work. ....what I make is no one else’s business. ....no.

Why?

Because you never shut the fuck up about what you think other people make and how laughably rich you think you are in your tiny little bubble world.

 

[Oldstyle]

No since I was getting paid minimum wage and they were both hired before me so I can only assume they were making at least a little more than me and I started in the dog food section of the store you really can't get much lower than that

But you dont know for sure? How can you be certain they were not getting underpaid?

Yeah I don't know if the store owners were breaking the law and guess what neither do you I just don't assume they were

The reason I asked is because white business owners frequently do things like this. So its not really an assumption on my part. Its an expectation.

Wages Are Unequal Between White and Black Men Even When Other Factors Are Comparable

Did you even read that article? The difference in the "unequal" wages between white and black men that they cited was $3,000 on salaries of $124,000 to $121,000! You want to talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill? That's ABSURD!!!

The question is did YOU read the article. Because your post is dishonest in the fact that what you referred to were only cybersecurity jobs.

"Cybersecurity professionals of color earn less than their white counterparts, says a new report.
A male cybersecurity professional of color earns an average salary of $121,000—the same as white females—while Caucasian males earn, on average, $124,000. Women of color working in cybersecurity earn $115,000, according to "Innovation Through Inclusion: The Multicultural Cybersecurity Workforce."

And regardless of how much of a molehill you think this is, the pay should be the same if thy are doing the same job.

Here's a dose of reality for you...what people are paid is dependent on many other issues than just the job that they have! First and foremost...are they reliable? Do they show up and do the job? Then there is the question of whether they understand how to ask for raises and when to ask for raises? It's been shown that the main reason women make less than men is that they are hesitant to ask for more money. You aren't generally going to get big raises unless you ASK for them!

 

[Asclepias]

That’s not the way ceos and board of directors see it.

How in the fuck would you know?

You have zero interaction with CEO's or anyone above middle management

They are leaning on vps to find minorities and women to become vps. My brother is in hr he says companies can’t find blacks and women to stay because other companies steal them away. My brothers predisessor is going to go to another company for double the money. $1 now she’ll be making $2 mill at the new place. Maybe when 50% of the vps are either women or minorities white men will once again make the same as women make. Right now 9 out of ten vps is a white male. So what if the 1 woman or minority makes more because they are highly sought after. I’d rather be a white because remember 9 out of ten of the vps is a white male. It’s good to be a white male. I know I am one

You confuse the work place for the federal government.

Companies that survive seek the best individual for the job. Race isn't a factor.

Untrue.

Unk is a fucking idiot. He is always saying something stupid. If race wasnt a factor there would be no wage gap between Blacks and whites doing the exact same thing. Its well documented that a college educated Black mans main competition for employment is a white guy that barely graduated high school.

Actually the main competition for a college educated black man is a college educated black woman...of which there are a hell of a lot more than there ever used to be. In the future it will be a college educated Hispanic woman. Welcome to the new America...

That would be what is false for $500 Alex?

White High School Drop-Outs Are As Likely To Land Jobs As Black College Students

 

[Oldstyle]

That’s not the way ceos and board of directors see it.

How in the fuck would you know?

You have zero interaction with CEO's or anyone above middle management

They are leaning on vps to find minorities and women to become vps. My brother is in hr he says companies can’t find blacks and women to stay because other companies steal them away. My brothers predisessor is going to go to another company for double the money. $1 now she’ll be making $2 mill at the new place. Maybe when 50% of the vps are either women or minorities white men will once again make the same as women make. Right now 9 out of ten vps is a white male. So what if the 1 woman or minority makes more because they are highly sought after. I’d rather be a white because remember 9 out of ten of the vps is a white male. It’s good to be a white male. I know I am one

You confuse the work place for the federal government.

Companies that survive seek the best individual for the job. Race isn't a factor.

Untrue.

Unk is a fucking idiot. He is always saying something stupid. If race wasnt a factor there would be no wage gap between Blacks and whites doing the exact same thing. Its well documented that a college educated Black mans main competition for employment is a white guy that barely graduated high school.

Actually the main competition for a college educated black man is a college educated black woman...of which there are a hell of a lot more than there ever used to be. In the future it will be a college educated Hispanic woman. Welcome to the new America...

That would be what is false for $500 Alex?

White High School Drop-Outs Are As Likely To Land Jobs As Black College Students

Did you fail to read that past the headline, Milkweed? You might want to go back and do so! It proved my point.

 

[Asclepias]

How in the fuck would you know?

You have zero interaction with CEO's or anyone above middle management

You confuse the work place for the federal government.

Companies that survive seek the best individual for the job. Race isn't a factor.

Untrue.

Unk is a fucking idiot. He is always saying something stupid. If race wasnt a factor there would be no wage gap between Blacks and whites doing the exact same thing. Its well documented that a college educated Black mans main competition for employment is a white guy that barely graduated high school.

Actually the main competition for a college educated black man is a college educated black woman...of which there are a hell of a lot more than there ever used to be. In the future it will be a college educated Hispanic woman. Welcome to the new America...

That would be what is false for $500 Alex?

White High School Drop-Outs Are As Likely To Land Jobs As Black College Students

Did you fail to read that past the headline, Milkweed? You might want to go back and do so! It proved my point.

No I read until I saw this which obliterates your point.

"While the report paints a bleak picture for African-American college student job seekers who are competing with poorly educated whites, "

This was your claim....

"Actually the main competition for a college educated black man is a college educated black woman.."

Pro life tip. I dont compete against my Black women. We are in this together.

 

[IM2]

But you dont know for sure? How can you be certain they were not getting underpaid?

Yeah I don't know if the store owners were breaking the law and guess what neither do you I just don't assume they were

The reason I asked is because white business owners frequently do things like this. So its not really an assumption on my part. Its an expectation.

Wages Are Unequal Between White and Black Men Even When Other Factors Are Comparable

Did you even read that article? The difference in the "unequal" wages between white and black men that they cited was $3,000 on salaries of $124,000 to $121,000! You want to talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill? That's ABSURD!!!

The question is did YOU read the article. Because your post is dishonest in the fact that what you referred to were only cybersecurity jobs.

"Cybersecurity professionals of color earn less than their white counterparts, says a new report.
A male cybersecurity professional of color earns an average salary of $121,000—the same as white females—while Caucasian males earn, on average, $124,000. Women of color working in cybersecurity earn $115,000, according to "Innovation Through Inclusion: The Multicultural Cybersecurity Workforce."

And regardless of how much of a molehill you think this is, the pay should be the same if thy are doing the same job.

Here's a dose of reality for you...what people are paid is dependent on many other issues than just the job that they have! First and foremost...are they reliable? Do they show up and do the job? Then there is the question of whether they understand how to ask for raises and when to ask for raises? It's been shown that the main reason women make less than men is that they are hesitant to ask for more money. You aren't generally going to get big raises unless you ASK for them!

Here is a dose of reality for you. I've hired people. I've evaluated and determined pay raises.. You are making weak excuses considering our discussion is about pay when all other things are comparable.

 

[Oldstyle]

"Among blacks who earn professional degrees, the impact on their chances of finding a job is nearly one-and-a-half times greater than it is for whites who earn the same degrees. In addition, African-Americans who have bachelor’s degrees earn $10,000 more a year than those who don’t have a bachelor’s, compared to white men, who earn just $6,100 more than they would if they didn’t have a bachelor’s. The value of a graduate degree is even greater for African-American men. Those who have advanced degrees make $21,000 more per year than grads with bachelor’s degrees while white men with advanced degrees make just $15,100 more, according to BLS and Census data and analysis by a group at the College Board."

And your cited source failed to use simple common sense as to why a white high school graduate might be more attractive to a hiring manager than a black college graduate for some jobs! If it's not a good job then a college graduate might take it for the short term but will give it up as soon as a better one becomes available...a high school drop out may not have the option to take another job simply because they don't have the required degrees.

 

[Oldstyle]

Yeah I don't know if the store owners were breaking the law and guess what neither do you I just don't assume they were

The reason I asked is because white business owners frequently do things like this. So its not really an assumption on my part. Its an expectation.

Wages Are Unequal Between White and Black Men Even When Other Factors Are Comparable

Did you even read that article? The difference in the "unequal" wages between white and black men that they cited was $3,000 on salaries of $124,000 to $121,000! You want to talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill? That's ABSURD!!!

The question is did YOU read the article. Because your post is dishonest in the fact that what you referred to were only cybersecurity jobs.

"Cybersecurity professionals of color earn less than their white counterparts, says a new report.
A male cybersecurity professional of color earns an average salary of $121,000—the same as white females—while Caucasian males earn, on average, $124,000. Women of color working in cybersecurity earn $115,000, according to "Innovation Through Inclusion: The Multicultural Cybersecurity Workforce."

And regardless of how much of a molehill you think this is, the pay should be the same if thy are doing the same job.

Here's a dose of reality for you...what people are paid is dependent on many other issues than just the job that they have! First and foremost...are they reliable? Do they show up and do the job? Then there is the question of whether they understand how to ask for raises and when to ask for raises? It's been shown that the main reason women make less than men is that they are hesitant to ask for more money. You aren't generally going to get big raises unless you ASK for them!

Here is a dose of reality for you. I've hired people. I've evaluated and determined pay raises.. You are making weak excuses considering our discussion is about pay when all other things are comparable.

And what DID you determine raises on, IM2?

 

[IM2]

That’s not the way ceos and board of directors see it.

How in the fuck would you know?

You have zero interaction with CEO's or anyone above middle management

They are leaning on vps to find minorities and women to become vps. My brother is in hr he says companies can’t find blacks and women to stay because other companies steal them away. My brothers predisessor is going to go to another company for double the money. $1 now she’ll be making $2 mill at the new place. Maybe when 50% of the vps are either women or minorities white men will once again make the same as women make. Right now 9 out of ten vps is a white male. So what if the 1 woman or minority makes more because they are highly sought after. I’d rather be a white because remember 9 out of ten of the vps is a white male. It’s good to be a white male. I know I am one

You confuse the work place for the federal government.

Companies that survive seek the best individual for the job. Race isn't a factor.

Untrue.

Unk is a fucking idiot. He is always saying something stupid. If race wasnt a factor there would be no wage gap between Blacks and whites doing the exact same thing. Its well documented that a college educated Black mans main competition for employment is a white guy that barely graduated high school.

Actually the main competition for a college educated black man is a college educated black woman...of which there are a hell of a lot more than there ever used to be. In the future it will be a college educated Hispanic woman. Welcome to the new America...

Actually, listening to a white man trying to tell us what issues are for non whites pertaining to race is laughable.

 

[Asclepias]

"Among blacks who earn professional degrees, the impact on their chances of finding a job is nearly one-and-a-half times greater than it is for whites who earn the same degrees. In addition, African-Americans who have bachelor’s degrees earn $10,000 more a year than those who don’t have a bachelor’s, compared to white men, who earn just $6,100 more than they would if they didn’t have a bachelor’s. The value of a graduate degree is even greater for African-American men. Those who have advanced degrees make $21,000 more per year than grads with bachelor’s degrees while white men with advanced degrees make just $15,100 more, according to BLS and Census data and analysis by a group at the College Board."

And your cited source failed to use simple common sense as to why a white high school graduate might be more attractive to a hiring manager than a black college graduate for some jobs! If it's not a good job then a college graduate might take it for the short term but will give it up as soon as a better one becomes available...a high school drop out may not have the option to take another job simply because they don't have the required degrees.

That makes zero sense. In fact its so stupid I cant believe you actually said it. If that was a point then wouldnt the same hold true for a white college educated man?

 

[IM2]

"Among blacks who earn professional degrees, the impact on their chances of finding a job is nearly one-and-a-half times greater than it is for whites who earn the same degrees. In addition, African-Americans who have bachelor’s degrees earn $10,000 more a year than those who don’t have a bachelor’s, compared to white men, who earn just $6,100 more than they would if they didn’t have a bachelor’s. The value of a graduate degree is even greater for African-American men. Those who have advanced degrees make $21,000 more per year than grads with bachelor’s degrees while white men with advanced degrees make just $15,100 more, according to BLS and Census data and analysis by a group at the College Board."

And your cited source failed to use simple common sense as to why a white high school graduate might be more attractive to a hiring manager than a black college graduate for some jobs! If it's not a good job then a college graduate might take it for the short term but will give it up as soon as a better one becomes available...a high school drop out may not have the option to take another job simply because they don't have the required degrees.

More excuses.

 

[Oldstyle]

"Among blacks who earn professional degrees, the impact on their chances of finding a job is nearly one-and-a-half times greater than it is for whites who earn the same degrees. In addition, African-Americans who have bachelor’s degrees earn $10,000 more a year than those who don’t have a bachelor’s, compared to white men, who earn just $6,100 more than they would if they didn’t have a bachelor’s. The value of a graduate degree is even greater for African-American men. Those who have advanced degrees make $21,000 more per year than grads with bachelor’s degrees while white men with advanced degrees make just $15,100 more, according to BLS and Census data and analysis by a group at the College Board."

And your cited source failed to use simple common sense as to why a white high school graduate might be more attractive to a hiring manager than a black college graduate for some jobs! If it's not a good job then a college graduate might take it for the short term but will give it up as soon as a better one becomes available...a high school drop out may not have the option to take another job simply because they don't have the required degrees.

That makes zero sense. In fact its so stupid I cant believe you actually said it. If that was a point then wouldnt the same hold true for a white college educated man?

It does hold true for both! Anyone with advanced degrees was actually at a disadvantage in the job market during the Great Recession! Why? Because hiring managers were hesitant to hire someone who they knew was over qualified for positions because they knew that those people would be the first to leave if the job situation got better.