What is a real liberal? No liberals, please. We know better what a liberal is

[kaz]

So Democrats all over the board are parroting each other defining real conservatives. Liberals know better what a conservative than conservatives do. Sure they do. And they are saying that leftist Republicans like McCain, W and Colin Powell (who isn't a Republican at all) are of course the "real" conservatives.

Well, so by their logic, we know better what a real liberal is. So let's define it.

A real liberal is for free speech, minimum government intrusion into our lives, is tolerant of other views, believes we should live and let live. And a real liberal would want to minimize the greatest threat to our freedom, government.

Democrats are none of these things. They are authoritarian leftists. So conservatives. You know what a real liberal is. What say you?

Cult45 are hyper authoritarian bigots and tribal right wing extremists that want the government to swell as long as they can fuck over everything and everyone that doesn't share their narrow hive mind world views. They have been led to believe their mediocre and superficial lives and efforts are exceptional while debasing those who are truly higher educated, higher motivated and tend to use critical thinking.

They do absolutely nothing to even try resembling classic conservative values, such as states rights, smaller government and fiscal responsibility. They have allowed their 'elected' former Democrat Orange populist to skew their reality through social media while accusing the other political tribe of doing the very same. Hypocritical douchebags using the same playbook of baseless accusations and fear mongering tactics to foment hate and division just like the political tribe they claim to hate.

They are encouraged to embrace theocratic methods by a godless, morally bankrupt administration bent on division in order to conquer us in our disunity.

Cult45 rejects aren't any more conservative, patriotic or American than ISIS.

Glad you could vomit out all that DNC rhetoric. That has to feel better

Lol. 'DNC rhetoric'. This is how the superficial and mediocre Cult45 respond to points they are powerless to counter. Thank you for that.

You played right into OP's hands, dumbass. You are the epitome of what the OP was about and certainly not a liberal.

Notice how I never use the 'liberal' or 'conservative' descriptor. Yet here you are, chomping at the bit to self identify in accordance to descriptions I actually made in my post. Sounds like you're the dumbass to me.

You used conservative in the quote box in this post. Talk about a dumb ass.

And it's interesting you just said what I did that you're off topic for this thread then since it's about real liberals

The 'No True Scotsman' fallacy is used 900 times a day in the halls of hypocrisy that is USMB. Who defines a true liberal or conservative? It's completely subjective. Your thread is crafted in bad faith from the get go. I'm just trying to cut through your minutia of labels.

Funny how you never mention that when leftists are defining "true conservative." Hypocrisy much?

And I'm making fun of you idiots, dumb ass. How clueless are you?

 

[kaz]

So Democrats all over the board are parroting each other defining real conservatives. Liberals know better what a conservative than conservatives do. Sure they do. And they are saying that leftist Republicans like McCain, W and Colin Powell (who isn't a Republican at all) are of course the "real" conservatives.

Well, so by their logic, we know better what a real liberal is. So let's define it.

A real liberal is for free speech, minimum government intrusion into our lives, is tolerant of other views, believes we should live and let live. And a real liberal would want to minimize the greatest threat to our freedom, government.

Democrats are none of these things. They are authoritarian leftists. So conservatives. You know what a real liberal is. What say you?

Cult45 are hyper authoritarian bigots and tribal right wing extremists that want the government to swell as long as they can fuck over everything and everyone that doesn't share their narrow hive mind world views. They have been led to believe their mediocre and superficial lives and efforts are exceptional while debasing those who are truly higher educated, higher motivated and tend to use critical thinking.

They do absolutely nothing to even try resembling classic conservative values, such as states rights, smaller government and fiscal responsibility. They have allowed their 'elected' former Democrat Orange populist to skew their reality through social media while accusing the other political tribe of doing the very same. Hypocritical douchebags using the same playbook of baseless accusations and fear mongering tactics to foment hate and division just like the political tribe they claim to hate.

They are encouraged to embrace theocratic methods by a godless, morally bankrupt administration bent on division in order to conquer us in our disunity.

Cult45 rejects aren't any more conservative, patriotic or American than ISIS.

Glad you could vomit out all that DNC rhetoric. That has to feel better

Lol. 'DNC rhetoric'. This is how the superficial and mediocre Cult45 respond to points they are powerless to counter. Thank you for that.

You played right into OP's hands, dumbass. You are the epitome of what the OP was about and certainly not a liberal.

Notice how I never use the 'liberal' or 'conservative' descriptor. Yet here you are, chomping at the bit to self identify in accordance to descriptions I actually made in my post. Sounds like you're the dumbass to me.

You used conservative in the quote box in this post. Talk about a dumb ass.

And it's interesting you just said what I did that you're off topic for this thread then since it's about real liberals

The 'No True Scotsman' fallacy is used 900 times a day in the halls of hypocrisy that is USMB. Who defines a true liberal or conservative? It's completely subjective. Your thread is crafted in bad faith from the get go. I'm just trying to cut through your minutia of labels.

No, it's NOT completely subjective, there are specific criteria.
Shitposting isn't earning you any credibility.

Ah, I see. So which specific criteria do you self identify with? Be specific please.

I don't identify with criteria. I use the term that most closely describes my beliefs.

If you did that you'd call yourself an authoritarian leftist

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

So Democrats all over the board are parroting each other defining real conservatives. Liberals know better what a conservative than conservatives do. Sure they do. And they are saying that leftist Republicans like McCain, W and Colin Powell (who isn't a Republican at all) are of course the "real" conservatives.

Well, so by their logic, we know better what a real liberal is. So let's define it.

A real liberal is for free speech, minimum government intrusion into our lives, is tolerant of other views, believes we should live and let live. And a real liberal would want to minimize the greatest threat to our freedom, government.

Democrats are none of these things. They are authoritarian leftists. So conservatives. You know what a real liberal is. What say you?

Cult45 are hyper authoritarian bigots and tribal right wing extremists that want the government to swell as long as they can fuck over everything and everyone that doesn't share their narrow hive mind world views. They have been led to believe their mediocre and superficial lives and efforts are exceptional while debasing those who are truly higher educated, higher motivated and tend to use critical thinking.

They do absolutely nothing to even try resembling classic conservative values, such as states rights, smaller government and fiscal responsibility. They have allowed their 'elected' former Democrat Orange populist to skew their reality through social media while accusing the other political tribe of doing the very same. Hypocritical douchebags using the same playbook of baseless accusations and fear mongering tactics to foment hate and division just like the political tribe they claim to hate.

They are encouraged to embrace theocratic methods by a godless, morally bankrupt administration bent on division in order to conquer us in our disunity.

Cult45 rejects aren't any more conservative, patriotic or American than ISIS.

Glad you could vomit out all that DNC rhetoric. That has to feel better

Lol. 'DNC rhetoric'. This is how the superficial and mediocre Cult45 respond to points they are powerless to counter. Thank you for that.

I see you still have a big old stomach ache. It's going to take some more projectile vomiting to get the gas from the DNC BS you keep swallowing, huh? It's some nasty shit, I don't blame you

Your nasty winger shit reeks even worse. Why do you even create threads? You're not promoting any conversation, you're simply taking a dump in the middle of the room and calling it a compelling piece of artwork.

Dumb as dirt, every one of you.

You ignored the topic of the thread and vomited a hateful Democrat screed. Deal with your own issues before you worry about mine. M'kay?

How was it a 'hateful Democrat screed'?

Um ... first sentence ... " Cult45 are hyper authoritarian bigots and tribal right wing extremists that want the government to swell as long as they can fuck over everything and everyone that doesn't share their narrow hive mind world views Cult45 are hyper authoritarian bigots and tribal right wing extremists that want the government to swell as long as they can fuck over everything and everyone that doesn't share their narrow hive mind world views"

Why does this bother you?

Um ... what?

So when you disagree with someone that means it bothers you?

So why does this bother you?

Congratulations. You're now down to shitting out circular arguments. You're not very good at this.

So you're not bothered by my quoted statement. Then why did you describe it as a 'hateful Democrat screed'?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

So Democrats all over the board are parroting each other defining real conservatives. Liberals know better what a conservative than conservatives do. Sure they do. And they are saying that leftist Republicans like McCain, W and Colin Powell (who isn't a Republican at all) are of course the "real" conservatives.

Well, so by their logic, we know better what a real liberal is. So let's define it.

A real liberal is for free speech, minimum government intrusion into our lives, is tolerant of other views, believes we should live and let live. And a real liberal would want to minimize the greatest threat to our freedom, government.

Democrats are none of these things. They are authoritarian leftists. So conservatives. You know what a real liberal is. What say you?

Cult45 are hyper authoritarian bigots and tribal right wing extremists that want the government to swell as long as they can fuck over everything and everyone that doesn't share their narrow hive mind world views. They have been led to believe their mediocre and superficial lives and efforts are exceptional while debasing those who are truly higher educated, higher motivated and tend to use critical thinking.

They do absolutely nothing to even try resembling classic conservative values, such as states rights, smaller government and fiscal responsibility. They have allowed their 'elected' former Democrat Orange populist to skew their reality through social media while accusing the other political tribe of doing the very same. Hypocritical douchebags using the same playbook of baseless accusations and fear mongering tactics to foment hate and division just like the political tribe they claim to hate.

They are encouraged to embrace theocratic methods by a godless, morally bankrupt administration bent on division in order to conquer us in our disunity.

Cult45 rejects aren't any more conservative, patriotic or American than ISIS.

Glad you could vomit out all that DNC rhetoric. That has to feel better

Lol. 'DNC rhetoric'. This is how the superficial and mediocre Cult45 respond to points they are powerless to counter. Thank you for that.

You played right into OP's hands, dumbass. You are the epitome of what the OP was about and certainly not a liberal.

Notice how I never use the 'liberal' or 'conservative' descriptor. Yet here you are, chomping at the bit to self identify in accordance to descriptions I actually made in my post. Sounds like you're the dumbass to me.

You used conservative in the quote box in this post. Talk about a dumb ass.

And it's interesting you just said what I did that you're off topic for this thread then since it's about real liberals

The 'No True Scotsman' fallacy is used 900 times a day in the halls of hypocrisy that is USMB. Who defines a true liberal or conservative? It's completely subjective. Your thread is crafted in bad faith from the get go. I'm just trying to cut through your minutia of labels.

No, it's NOT completely subjective, there are specific criteria.
Shitposting isn't earning you any credibility.

Ah, I see. So which specific criteria do you self identify with? Be specific please.

I don't identify with criteria. I use the term that most closely describes my beliefs.

If you did that you'd call yourself an authoritarian leftist

Would I? Please, tell me more about my beliefs!

 

[kaz]

So Democrats all over the board are parroting each other defining real conservatives. Liberals know better what a conservative than conservatives do. Sure they do. And they are saying that leftist Republicans like McCain, W and Colin Powell (who isn't a Republican at all) are of course the "real" conservatives.

Well, so by their logic, we know better what a real liberal is. So let's define it.

A real liberal is for free speech, minimum government intrusion into our lives, is tolerant of other views, believes we should live and let live. And a real liberal would want to minimize the greatest threat to our freedom, government.

Democrats are none of these things. They are authoritarian leftists. So conservatives. You know what a real liberal is. What say you?

Cult45 are hyper authoritarian bigots and tribal right wing extremists that want the government to swell as long as they can fuck over everything and everyone that doesn't share their narrow hive mind world views. They have been led to believe their mediocre and superficial lives and efforts are exceptional while debasing those who are truly higher educated, higher motivated and tend to use critical thinking.

They do absolutely nothing to even try resembling classic conservative values, such as states rights, smaller government and fiscal responsibility. They have allowed their 'elected' former Democrat Orange populist to skew their reality through social media while accusing the other political tribe of doing the very same. Hypocritical douchebags using the same playbook of baseless accusations and fear mongering tactics to foment hate and division just like the political tribe they claim to hate.

They are encouraged to embrace theocratic methods by a godless, morally bankrupt administration bent on division in order to conquer us in our disunity.

Cult45 rejects aren't any more conservative, patriotic or American than ISIS.

Glad you could vomit out all that DNC rhetoric. That has to feel better

Lol. 'DNC rhetoric'. This is how the superficial and mediocre Cult45 respond to points they are powerless to counter. Thank you for that.

I see you still have a big old stomach ache. It's going to take some more projectile vomiting to get the gas from the DNC BS you keep swallowing, huh? It's some nasty shit, I don't blame you

Your nasty winger shit reeks even worse. Why do you even create threads? You're not promoting any conversation, you're simply taking a dump in the middle of the room and calling it a compelling piece of artwork.

Dumb as dirt, every one of you.

You ignored the topic of the thread and vomited a hateful Democrat screed. Deal with your own issues before you worry about mine. M'kay?

How was it a 'hateful Democrat screed'?

Um ... first sentence ... " Cult45 are hyper authoritarian bigots and tribal right wing extremists that want the government to swell as long as they can fuck over everything and everyone that doesn't share their narrow hive mind world views Cult45 are hyper authoritarian bigots and tribal right wing extremists that want the government to swell as long as they can fuck over everything and everyone that doesn't share their narrow hive mind world views"

Why does this bother you?

Um ... what?

So when you disagree with someone that means it bothers you?

So why does this bother you?

Congratulations. You're now down to shitting out circular arguments. You're not very good at this.

So you're not bothered by my quoted statement. Then why did you describe it as a 'hateful Democrat screed'?

Why does it bother you so much that I called it 'hateful Democrat screed?'

And read the first sentence to answer your question.

And try not to be so upset. It's just an internet discussion. Try to calm down

 

[kaz]

So Democrats all over the board are parroting each other defining real conservatives. Liberals know better what a conservative than conservatives do. Sure they do. And they are saying that leftist Republicans like McCain, W and Colin Powell (who isn't a Republican at all) are of course the "real" conservatives.

Well, so by their logic, we know better what a real liberal is. So let's define it.

A real liberal is for free speech, minimum government intrusion into our lives, is tolerant of other views, believes we should live and let live. And a real liberal would want to minimize the greatest threat to our freedom, government.

Democrats are none of these things. They are authoritarian leftists. So conservatives. You know what a real liberal is. What say you?

Cult45 are hyper authoritarian bigots and tribal right wing extremists that want the government to swell as long as they can fuck over everything and everyone that doesn't share their narrow hive mind world views. They have been led to believe their mediocre and superficial lives and efforts are exceptional while debasing those who are truly higher educated, higher motivated and tend to use critical thinking.

They do absolutely nothing to even try resembling classic conservative values, such as states rights, smaller government and fiscal responsibility. They have allowed their 'elected' former Democrat Orange populist to skew their reality through social media while accusing the other political tribe of doing the very same. Hypocritical douchebags using the same playbook of baseless accusations and fear mongering tactics to foment hate and division just like the political tribe they claim to hate.

They are encouraged to embrace theocratic methods by a godless, morally bankrupt administration bent on division in order to conquer us in our disunity.

Cult45 rejects aren't any more conservative, patriotic or American than ISIS.

Glad you could vomit out all that DNC rhetoric. That has to feel better

Lol. 'DNC rhetoric'. This is how the superficial and mediocre Cult45 respond to points they are powerless to counter. Thank you for that.

You played right into OP's hands, dumbass. You are the epitome of what the OP was about and certainly not a liberal.

Notice how I never use the 'liberal' or 'conservative' descriptor. Yet here you are, chomping at the bit to self identify in accordance to descriptions I actually made in my post. Sounds like you're the dumbass to me.

You used conservative in the quote box in this post. Talk about a dumb ass.

And it's interesting you just said what I did that you're off topic for this thread then since it's about real liberals

The 'No True Scotsman' fallacy is used 900 times a day in the halls of hypocrisy that is USMB. Who defines a true liberal or conservative? It's completely subjective. Your thread is crafted in bad faith from the get go. I'm just trying to cut through your minutia of labels.

No, it's NOT completely subjective, there are specific criteria.
Shitposting isn't earning you any credibility.

Ah, I see. So which specific criteria do you self identify with? Be specific please.

I don't identify with criteria. I use the term that most closely describes my beliefs.

If you did that you'd call yourself an authoritarian leftist

Would I? Please, tell me more about my beliefs!

I don't have to, you're clear in your blind support for Biden and the Democrat party you're an authoritarian leftist

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Funny how you never mention that when leftists are defining "true conservative." Hypocrisy much?

Labels, labels, labels. You already pre assign them to people you disagree with. No critical thought required. Hypocrisy much?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

And try not to be so upset. It's just an internet discussion. Try to calm down

Calm as a northward breeze, petunia. Just curious about motivation.

 

[kaz]

Funny how you never mention that when leftists are defining "true conservative." Hypocrisy much?

Labels, labels, labels. You already pre assign them to people you disagree with. No critical thought required. Hypocrisy much?

You are an authoritarian leftist, it's not a "label"

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

So Democrats all over the board are parroting each other defining real conservatives. Liberals know better what a conservative than conservatives do. Sure they do. And they are saying that leftist Republicans like McCain, W and Colin Powell (who isn't a Republican at all) are of course the "real" conservatives.

Well, so by their logic, we know better what a real liberal is. So let's define it.

A real liberal is for free speech, minimum government intrusion into our lives, is tolerant of other views, believes we should live and let live. And a real liberal would want to minimize the greatest threat to our freedom, government.

Democrats are none of these things. They are authoritarian leftists. So conservatives. You know what a real liberal is. What say you?

Cult45 are hyper authoritarian bigots and tribal right wing extremists that want the government to swell as long as they can fuck over everything and everyone that doesn't share their narrow hive mind world views. They have been led to believe their mediocre and superficial lives and efforts are exceptional while debasing those who are truly higher educated, higher motivated and tend to use critical thinking.

They do absolutely nothing to even try resembling classic conservative values, such as states rights, smaller government and fiscal responsibility. They have allowed their 'elected' former Democrat Orange populist to skew their reality through social media while accusing the other political tribe of doing the very same. Hypocritical douchebags using the same playbook of baseless accusations and fear mongering tactics to foment hate and division just like the political tribe they claim to hate.

They are encouraged to embrace theocratic methods by a godless, morally bankrupt administration bent on division in order to conquer us in our disunity.

Cult45 rejects aren't any more conservative, patriotic or American than ISIS.

Glad you could vomit out all that DNC rhetoric. That has to feel better

Lol. 'DNC rhetoric'. This is how the superficial and mediocre Cult45 respond to points they are powerless to counter. Thank you for that.

You played right into OP's hands, dumbass. You are the epitome of what the OP was about and certainly not a liberal.

Notice how I never use the 'liberal' or 'conservative' descriptor. Yet here you are, chomping at the bit to self identify in accordance to descriptions I actually made in my post. Sounds like you're the dumbass to me.

You used conservative in the quote box in this post. Talk about a dumb ass.

And it's interesting you just said what I did that you're off topic for this thread then since it's about real liberals

The 'No True Scotsman' fallacy is used 900 times a day in the halls of hypocrisy that is USMB. Who defines a true liberal or conservative? It's completely subjective. Your thread is crafted in bad faith from the get go. I'm just trying to cut through your minutia of labels.

No, it's NOT completely subjective, there are specific criteria.
Shitposting isn't earning you any credibility.

Ah, I see. So which specific criteria do you self identify with? Be specific please.

I don't identify with criteria. I use the term that most closely describes my beliefs.

If you did that you'd call yourself an authoritarian leftist

Would I? Please, tell me more about my beliefs!

I don't have to, you're clear in your blind support for Biden and the Democrat party you're an authoritarian leftist

Where exactly was that made clear? Please be specific.

 

[Mac1958]

Cult45 rejects aren't any more conservative, patriotic or American than ISIS.

Couldn't have asked for a better thread title.

They literally don't want to know how people actually think. Rather than listen to and accurately understand the opinions of those who dare to not think like them, they'd rather just go with what they're told. Much easier than listening and honestly analyzing. It lets them avoid honest introspection and lets them avoid challenging their own beliefs.

Perhaps the most destructive symptom of being afflicted with a hardcore partisan ideology is that it robs people of their fundamental curiosity. This is how the tribes continue to pull apart from each other.

Our wingers are killing us, and it's accelerating.

 

[kaz]

And try not to be so upset. It's just an internet discussion. Try to calm down

Calm as a northward breeze, petunia. Just curious about motivation.

You were pretty upset. Glad you calmed down. It was getting out of hand when you kept throwing things and screaming like that. Life is too short for you to get that upset about everything

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Funny how you never mention that when leftists are defining "true conservative." Hypocrisy much?

Labels, labels, labels. You already pre assign them to people you disagree with. No critical thought required. Hypocrisy much?

You are an authoritarian leftist, it's not a "label"

There you go, just making things up again (IE. Labels)

 

[kaz]

Cult45 rejects aren't any more conservative, patriotic or American than ISIS.

Couldn't have asked for a better thread title.

They literally don't want to know how people actually think. Rather than listen to and accurately understand the opinions of those who dare to not think like them, they'd rather just go with what they're told. Much easier than listening and honestly analyzing. It lets them avoid honest introspection and lets them avoid challenging their own beliefs.

Perhaps the most destructive symptom of being afflicted with a hardcore partisan ideology is that it robs people of their fundamental curiosity. This is how the tribes continue to pull apart from each other.

Our wingers are killing us, and it's accelerating.

leftists: Real conservatives think this, real conservatives think that! On and on

Mac1958: {crickets}

kaz: {mocks leftists by asking conservatives to define a "real" liberal}

Mac1958: OMG, it's extremism! I'm against extremism!

LOL, you're a dunce. You're also an extremist, LOL

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Cult45 rejects aren't any more conservative, patriotic or American than ISIS.

Couldn't have asked for a better thread title.

They literally don't want to know how people actually think. Rather than listen to and accurately understand the opinions of those who dare to not think like them, they'd rather just go with what they're told. Much easier than listening and honestly analyzing. It lets them avoid honest introspection and lets them avoid challenging their own beliefs.

Perhaps the most destructive symptom of being afflicted with a hardcore partisan ideology is that it robs people of their fundamental curiosity. This is how the tribes continue to pull apart from each other.

Our wingers are killing us, and it's accelerating.

Indeed.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

And try not to be so upset. It's just an internet discussion. Try to calm down

Calm as a northward breeze, petunia. Just curious about motivation.

You were pretty upset. Glad you calmed down. It was getting out of hand when you kept throwing things and screaming like that. Life is too short for you to get that upset about everything

You sound upset. Thread not going like you imagined, eh? Binary political tribal labels are never good topics to start a thread with.

 

[kaz]

And try not to be so upset. It's just an internet discussion. Try to calm down

Calm as a northward breeze, petunia. Just curious about motivation.

You were pretty upset. Glad you calmed down. It was getting out of hand when you kept throwing things and screaming like that. Life is too short for you to get that upset about everything

You sound upset. Thread not going like you imagined, eh? Binary political tribal labels are never good topics to start a thread with.

Aw, and Tumblin is crying now. Just a tough day, so sad, emotional girl

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

And try not to be so upset. It's just an internet discussion. Try to calm down

Calm as a northward breeze, petunia. Just curious about motivation.

You were pretty upset. Glad you calmed down. It was getting out of hand when you kept throwing things and screaming like that. Life is too short for you to get that upset about everything

You sound upset. Thread not going like you imagined, eh? Binary political tribal labels are never good topics to start a thread with.

Aw, and Tumblin is crying now. Just a tough day, so sad, emotional girl

Lol. Sounds like you're out of gas, Petunia. Maybe you need a nap to go regroup.

 

[kaz]

And try not to be so upset. It's just an internet discussion. Try to calm down

Calm as a northward breeze, petunia. Just curious about motivation.

You were pretty upset. Glad you calmed down. It was getting out of hand when you kept throwing things and screaming like that. Life is too short for you to get that upset about everything

You sound upset. Thread not going like you imagined, eh? Binary political tribal labels are never good topics to start a thread with.

Aw, and Tumblin is crying now. Just a tough day, so sad, emotional girl

Lol. Sounds like you're out of gas, Petunia. Maybe you need a nap to go regroup.

Wow, you're really upset. Really, that's no way to live life. Calm down and try to keep things in perspective, poor girl