*What Is Death To An Ahteist*?

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1. Those not with God, are automatically with Satan.:evil:
2. Its a *default* thing.:eusa_whistle:
3. Those not for Christ, are against, its basic logic.:eusa_hand:


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

So every human that existed before the bible was written was by default with the devil?

It's a false dichotomy which has nothing to do with logic.



1. As long as man and women have roamed the planet, Satan has been there trying to make us stumble.
2. You like those before Christ came; are by default, within the ruling powers of this world, as it is, which is Satan's kingdom.
3. Those before Christ had little chance to believe in the truth of Christ seeing he hadn't come to Israel yet, Israel being the first born of Promise to Abraham, the Jews not even being born yet.
4. They were offered a path or way out of hell, during the time Jesus was dead, when Christ went to the grave, and offered all of them a way out, if they would believe in him as the son of God, who takes away the sin of the world, which for sure millions did.
5. So unless you are born again, and eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ, with faith, you have no part with God, and are by default with Satan.
6. Simple fact.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Am i misunderstanding what you're saying. Are you saying that Abraham, noah,job,jacob,and King David will not inherit eternal life because they lived before Christ ?
 
Sorry bout that,




Sorry bout that,




1. Those not with God, are automatically with Satan.:evil:
2. Its a *default* thing.:eusa_whistle:
3. Those not for Christ, are against, its basic logic.:eusa_hand:


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

So every human that existed before the bible was written was by default with the devil?

It's a false dichotomy which has nothing to do with logic.



1. As long as man and women have roamed the planet, Satan has been there trying to make us stumble.
2. You like those before Christ came; are by default, within the ruling powers of this world, as it is, which is Satan's kingdom.
3. Those before Christ had little chance to believe in the truth of Christ seeing he hadn't come to Israel yet, Israel being the first born of Promise to Abraham, the Jews not even being born yet.
4. They were offered a path or way out of hell, during the time Jesus was dead, when Christ went to the grave, and offered all of them a way out, if they would believe in him as the son of God, who takes away the sin of the world, which for sure millions did.
5. So unless you are born again, and eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ, with faith, you have no part with God, and are by default with Satan.
6. Simple fact.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Actually Satan didn't exist before god according to your bible Satan (Lucifer) was cast down from heaven.

So at some point in time there was no Satan until your god set him loose upon the world.

If you believe in this crap then you might as well get your story straight.

PS Don't you find it funny that Lucifer whose name literally means light bringer is the one you holy rollers think is evil? You'd rather be in the dark and bleating like sheep.
 
Sorry bout that,




So every human that existed before the bible was written was by default with the devil?

It's a false dichotomy which has nothing to do with logic.



1. As long as man and women have roamed the planet, Satan has been there trying to make us stumble.
2. You like those before Christ came; are by default, within the ruling powers of this world, as it is, which is Satan's kingdom.
3. Those before Christ had little chance to believe in the truth of Christ seeing he hadn't come to Israel yet, Israel being the first born of Promise to Abraham, the Jews not even being born yet.
4. They were offered a path or way out of hell, during the time Jesus was dead, when Christ went to the grave, and offered all of them a way out, if they would believe in him as the son of God, who takes away the sin of the world, which for sure millions did.
5. So unless you are born again, and eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ, with faith, you have no part with God, and are by default with Satan.
6. Simple fact.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Actually Satan didn't exist before god according to your bible Satan (Lucifer) was cast down from heaven.

So at some point in time there was no Satan until your god set him loose upon the world.

If you believe in this crap then you might as well get your story straight.

PS Don't you find it funny that Lucifer whose name literally means light bringer is the one you holy rollers think is evil? You'd rather be in the dark and bleating like sheep.

Who said satan is lucifer ? You are suggesting an inaccurate accusation the name lucifer appears nowhere in the scriptures.

The name satan means opposer or adversary or pure evil. That is a fitting name for the angel that caused all rebellion against God.
 
Sorry bout that,



Sorry bout that,




So every human that existed before the bible was written was by default with the devil?

It's a false dichotomy which has nothing to do with logic.



1. As long as man and women have roamed the planet, Satan has been there trying to make us stumble.
2. You like those before Christ came; are by default, within the ruling powers of this world, as it is, which is Satan's kingdom.
3. Those before Christ had *little chance* to believe in the truth of Christ seeing he hadn't come to Israel yet, Israel being the first born of Promise to Abraham, the Jews not even being born yet.
4. They were offered a path or way out of hell, during the time Jesus was dead, when Christ went to the grave, and offered all of them a way out, if they would believe in him as the son of God, who takes away the sin of the world, which for sure millions did.
5. So unless you are born again, and eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ, with faith, you have no part with God, and are by default with Satan.
6. Simple fact.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Am i misunderstanding what you're saying. Are you saying that Abraham, noah,job,jacob,and King David will not inherit eternal life because they lived before Christ ?



1. Did you miss that?



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
 
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Sorry bout that,




Sorry bout that,




So every human that existed before the bible was written was by default with the devil?

It's a false dichotomy which has nothing to do with logic.



1. As long as man and women have roamed the planet, Satan has been there trying to make us stumble.
2. You like those before Christ came; are by default, within the ruling powers of this world, as it is, which is Satan's kingdom.
3. Those before Christ had little chance to believe in the truth of Christ seeing he hadn't come to Israel yet, Israel being the first born of Promise to Abraham, the Jews not even being born yet.
4. They were offered a path or way out of hell, during the time Jesus was dead, when Christ went to the grave, and offered all of them a way out, if they would believe in him as the son of God, who takes away the sin of the world, which for sure millions did.
5. So unless you are born again, and eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ, with faith, you have no part with God, and are by default with Satan.
6. Simple fact.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Actually Satan didn't exist before god according to your bible Satan (Lucifer) was cast down from heaven.

So at some point in time there was no Satan until your god set him loose upon the world.

If you believe in this crap then you might as well get your story straight.

PS Don't you find it funny that Lucifer whose name literally means light bringer is the one you holy rollers think is evil? You'd rather be in the dark and bleating like sheep.




1. Satan was not before God, God made Satan, and Satan is here in the world, and sits on the throne ensconced in power, the ruler of this world.
2. But not openly, he hides, to rule the masses in secret, if we knew openly he was there, ofcourse there would be an up roar, and the people wouldn't abide well.
3. And they would start demanding God remove Satan, in mass.
4. Which isn't apart of *Gods Master Plan*, the time set has to come as the time planned by God, when ever the world began, or created that is.
5. There is no accident with God, every detail of what will *be* is already laid out, and been prophesied infact.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
 
Sorry bout that,








1. As long as man and women have roamed the planet, Satan has been there trying to make us stumble.
2. You like those before Christ came; are by default, within the ruling powers of this world, as it is, which is Satan's kingdom.
3. Those before Christ had little chance to believe in the truth of Christ seeing he hadn't come to Israel yet, Israel being the first born of Promise to Abraham, the Jews not even being born yet.
4. They were offered a path or way out of hell, during the time Jesus was dead, when Christ went to the grave, and offered all of them a way out, if they would believe in him as the son of God, who takes away the sin of the world, which for sure millions did.
5. So unless you are born again, and eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ, with faith, you have no part with God, and are by default with Satan.
6. Simple fact.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Actually Satan didn't exist before god according to your bible Satan (Lucifer) was cast down from heaven.

So at some point in time there was no Satan until your god set him loose upon the world.

If you believe in this crap then you might as well get your story straight.

PS Don't you find it funny that Lucifer whose name literally means light bringer is the one you holy rollers think is evil? You'd rather be in the dark and bleating like sheep.

Who said satan is lucifer ? You are suggesting an inaccurate accusation the name lucifer appears nowhere in the scriptures.

The name satan means opposer or adversary or pure evil. That is a fitting name for the angel that caused all rebellion against God.

You believers use Satan, Lucifer and the devil interchangeably.

And still your god must have created Satan and unleashed him on those he is supposed to love.

Isn't that akin to letting a pedophile rape and terrorize your own children?
 
Sorry bout that,




Sorry bout that,








1. As long as man and women have roamed the planet, Satan has been there trying to make us stumble.
2. You like those before Christ came; are by default, within the ruling powers of this world, as it is, which is Satan's kingdom.
3. Those before Christ had little chance to believe in the truth of Christ seeing he hadn't come to Israel yet, Israel being the first born of Promise to Abraham, the Jews not even being born yet.
4. They were offered a path or way out of hell, during the time Jesus was dead, when Christ went to the grave, and offered all of them a way out, if they would believe in him as the son of God, who takes away the sin of the world, which for sure millions did.
5. So unless you are born again, and eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ, with faith, you have no part with God, and are by default with Satan.
6. Simple fact.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Actually Satan didn't exist before god according to your bible Satan (Lucifer) was cast down from heaven.

So at some point in time there was no Satan until your god set him loose upon the world.

If you believe in this crap then you might as well get your story straight.

PS Don't you find it funny that Lucifer whose name literally means light bringer is the one you holy rollers think is evil? You'd rather be in the dark and bleating like sheep.




1. Satan was not before God, God made Satan, and Satan is here in the world, and sits on the throne ensconced in power, the ruler of this world.
2. But not openly, he hides, to rule the masses in secret, if we knew openly he was there, ofcourse there would be an up roar, and the people wouldn't abide well.
3. And they would start demanding God remove Satan, in mass.
4. Which isn't apart of *Gods Master Plan*, the time set has to come as the time planned by God, when ever the world began, or created that is.
5. There is no accident with God, every detail of what will *be* is already laid out, and been prophesied infact.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

If something wasn't a part of god's master plan then it wasn't a master plan at all was it?
 
Sorry bout that,



Sorry bout that,








1. As long as man and women have roamed the planet, Satan has been there trying to make us stumble.
2. You like those before Christ came; are by default, within the ruling powers of this world, as it is, which is Satan's kingdom.
3. Those before Christ had *little chance* to believe in the truth of Christ seeing he hadn't come to Israel yet, Israel being the first born of Promise to Abraham, the Jews not even being born yet.
4. They were offered a path or way out of hell, during the time Jesus was dead, when Christ went to the grave, and offered all of them a way out, if they would believe in him as the son of God, who takes away the sin of the world, which for sure millions did.
5. So unless you are born again, and eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ, with faith, you have no part with God, and are by default with Satan.
6. Simple fact.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Am i misunderstanding what you're saying. Are you saying that Abraham, noah,job,jacob,and King David will not inherit eternal life because they lived before Christ ?



1. Did you miss that?



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Before Christ men of God did offer atonement for their sins so they had forgivness for the sins committed and would inherit eternal life.

King david spoke of eternal life,and job prayed that God would not leave is body in sheol which means the grave.
 
Actually Satan didn't exist before god according to your bible Satan (Lucifer) was cast down from heaven.

So at some point in time there was no Satan until your god set him loose upon the world.

If you believe in this crap then you might as well get your story straight.

PS Don't you find it funny that Lucifer whose name literally means light bringer is the one you holy rollers think is evil? You'd rather be in the dark and bleating like sheep.

Who said satan is lucifer ? You are suggesting an inaccurate accusation the name lucifer appears nowhere in the scriptures.

The name satan means opposer or adversary or pure evil. That is a fitting name for the angel that caused all rebellion against God.

You believers use Satan, Lucifer and the devil interchangeably.

And still your god must have created Satan and unleashed him on those he is supposed to love.

Isn't that akin to letting a pedophile rape and terrorize your own children?

The misinformed use the name lucifer for satan.

No that is not it, God yes created satan but as humans had freewill so did the angels they chose poorly so now this is how God plans to remove all sin from the earth.

We all have been given a choice out of freewill to choose God or satans wicked world. You can't be on the fence you're on one side or the other each side knows what to expect in the future.
 
Sorry bout that,




Actually Satan didn't exist before god according to your bible Satan (Lucifer) was cast down from heaven.

So at some point in time there was no Satan until your god set him loose upon the world.

If you believe in this crap then you might as well get your story straight.

PS Don't you find it funny that Lucifer whose name literally means light bringer is the one you holy rollers think is evil? You'd rather be in the dark and bleating like sheep.




1. Satan was not before God, God made Satan, and Satan is here in the world, and sits on the throne ensconced in power, the ruler of this world.
2. But not openly, he hides, to rule the masses in secret, if we knew openly he was there, ofcourse there would be an up roar, and the people wouldn't abide well.
3. And they would start demanding God remove Satan, in mass.
4. Which isn't apart of *Gods Master Plan*, the time set has to come as the time planned by God, when ever the world began, or created that is.
5. There is no accident with God, every detail of what will *be* is already laid out, and been prophesied infact.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

If something wasn't a part of god's master plan then it wasn't a master plan at all was it?

Gods master plan was for all the angels and adam and eve to remain faithful didn't happen now we have to go through what we are going through currently but i assure you the day of reckoning is upon us.
 
Sorry bout that,





Sorry bout that,




Actually Satan didn't exist before god according to your bible Satan (Lucifer) was cast down from heaven.

So at some point in time there was no Satan until your god set him loose upon the world.

If you believe in this crap then you might as well get your story straight.

PS Don't you find it funny that Lucifer whose name literally means light bringer is the one you holy rollers think is evil? You'd rather be in the dark and bleating like sheep.




1. Satan was not before God, God made Satan, and Satan is here in the world, and sits on the throne ensconced in power, the ruler of this world.
2. But not openly, he hides, to rule the masses in secret, if we knew openly he was there, ofcourse there would be an up roar, and the people wouldn't abide well.
3. And they would start demanding God remove Satan, in mass.
4. Which isn't apart of *Gods Master Plan*, the time set has to come as the time planned by God, when ever the world began, or created that is.
5. There is no accident with God, every detail of what will *be* is already laid out, and been prophesied infact.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

If something wasn't a part of god's master plan then it wasn't a master plan at all was it?




1. You asking me to know what God knows???
2. If I were to guess what God knows, I would guess God knew Satan would betray him.
3. "That thou doest quickly".
4. So if you are given free will, and decide to betray God, is its Gods sin or yours then?
5. Even if he knew you would?
6. Or were inclined to, predisposed to betrayal, is that the fault of God, or do you own anything in your own personal responsibility?
7. And if God allows a path out of this responsibility, then, by way of Jesus, who has openly offered a way out of this complexity.
8. If man is smart enough to knock and ask, Jesus will open and provide comfort.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
 
Sorry bout that,





Sorry bout that,









1. Satan was not before God, God made Satan, and Satan is here in the world, and sits on the throne ensconced in power, the ruler of this world.
2. But not openly, he hides, to rule the masses in secret, if we knew openly he was there, ofcourse there would be an up roar, and the people wouldn't abide well.
3. And they would start demanding God remove Satan, in mass.
4. Which isn't apart of *Gods Master Plan*, the time set has to come as the time planned by God, when ever the world began, or created that is.
5. There is no accident with God, every detail of what will *be* is already laid out, and been prophesied infact.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

If something wasn't a part of god's master plan then it wasn't a master plan at all was it?




1. You asking me to know what God knows???

You said "it wasn't a part of god's master plan" did you not? By asserting that something was not part of god's master plan then you also implied that you did indeed know what the master plan was. If you know what the master plan was then you must know what god was thinking.

BTW that's called deductive reasoning. Something you should brush up on.

2. If I were to guess what God knows, I would guess God knew Satan would betray him.

So your god knowingly unleashed evil upon his children. Not very loving is it?
3. "That thou doest quickly".
4. So if you are given free will, and decide to betray God, is its Gods sin or yours then?

To betray one must first be held in trust. I do not believe your god exists therefore it is impossible for me to betray him.

5. Even if he knew you would?
6. Or were inclined to, predisposed to betrayal, is that the fault of God, or do you own anything in your own personal responsibility
?

Everything I do is my choice therefore I am responsible. There is nothing that a god does for me.

7. And if God allows a path out of this responsibility, then, by way of Jesus, who has openly offered a way out of this complexity.
8. If man is smart enough to knock and ask, Jesus will open and provide comfort.

I ask for no comfort. I accept what life entails without fear.
 
Who said satan is lucifer ? You are suggesting an inaccurate accusation the name lucifer appears nowhere in the scriptures.

The name satan means opposer or adversary or pure evil. That is a fitting name for the angel that caused all rebellion against God.

You believers use Satan, Lucifer and the devil interchangeably.

And still your god must have created Satan and unleashed him on those he is supposed to love.

Isn't that akin to letting a pedophile rape and terrorize your own children?

The misinformed use the name lucifer for satan.

No that is not it, God yes created satan but as humans had freewill so did the angels they chose poorly so now this is how God plans to remove all sin from the earth.

We all have been given a choice out of freewill to choose God or satans wicked world. You can't be on the fence you're on one side or the other each side knows what to expect in the future.

You're wrong. I do not believe in god but nor do I do harm upon others. Not believing in god is tantamount to not believing in Satan.

You have presented a false dichotomy.
 
*What Is Death To An Ahteist*?

It's hard to describe in words so here's a drawing:

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Sorry bout that,




Sorry bout that,



Am i misunderstanding what you're saying. Are you saying that Abraham, noah,job,jacob,and King David will not inherit eternal life because they lived before Christ ?



1. Did you miss that?



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Before Christ men of God did offer atonement for their sins so they had forgivness for the sins committed and would inherit eternal life.

King david spoke of eternal life,and job prayed that God would not leave is body in sheol which means the grave.




1. You still don't get what I was saying?
2. Lemme help, the general population of that time, before Christ had no such way to please God.
3. Why are you having a problem with what I already said?
4. I made myself cyrstal clear.
5. Anyways, *little chance* means what it means, you figure it out.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
 
You believers use Satan, Lucifer and the devil interchangeably.

And still your god must have created Satan and unleashed him on those he is supposed to love.

Isn't that akin to letting a pedophile rape and terrorize your own children?

The misinformed use the name lucifer for satan.

No that is not it, God yes created satan but as humans had freewill so did the angels they chose poorly so now this is how God plans to remove all sin from the earth.

We all have been given a choice out of freewill to choose God or satans wicked world. You can't be on the fence you're on one side or the other each side knows what to expect in the future.

You're wrong. I do not believe in god but nor do I do harm upon others. Not believing in god is tantamount to not believing in Satan.

You have presented a false dichotomy.

A very simple point i was making. You identified satan as lucifer, i merely said that is misinformation because the name lucifer does not appear in the scriptures.

Ok so you don't believe in God or satan that does not release you from falsely identifying satan as lucifer.

And you were ridiculing the other poster by making the comment atleast have it right according to the story i am doing the same to you.
 
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Sorry bout that,




Sorry bout that,







1. Did you miss that?



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Before Christ men of God did offer atonement for their sins so they had forgivness for the sins committed and would inherit eternal life.

King david spoke of eternal life,and job prayed that God would not leave is body in sheol which means the grave.




1. You still don't get what I was saying?
2. Lemme help, the general population of that time, before Christ had no such way to please God.
3. Why are you having a problem with what I already said?
4. I made myself cyrstal clear.
5. Anyways, *little chance* means what it means, you figure it out.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Wrong.

Gen 6:9 These are the generations of Noah. Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations. Noah walked with God.

Job 1:8 And Jehovah said to Satan, Have you set your heart against My servant Job, because there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and upright man, one who fears God and turns away from evil?

Job 2:3 And Jehovah said unto Satan, Have you set your heart on My servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one who fears God and turns away from evil? And still he is keeping hold of his integrity, although you moved Me against him to destroy him without cause.
 
You believers use Satan, Lucifer and the devil interchangeably.

And still your god must have created Satan and unleashed him on those he is supposed to love.

Isn't that akin to letting a pedophile rape and terrorize your own children?

The misinformed use the name lucifer for satan.

No that is not it, God yes created satan but as humans had freewill so did the angels they chose poorly so now this is how God plans to remove all sin from the earth.

We all have been given a choice out of freewill to choose God or satans wicked world. You can't be on the fence you're on one side or the other each side knows what to expect in the future.

You're wrong. I do not believe in god but nor do I do harm upon others. Not believing in god is tantamount to not believing in Satan.

You have presented a false dichotomy.
Yep I believe in NO supernatural beings nor afterlife.
 
The misinformed use the name lucifer for satan.

No that is not it, God yes created satan but as humans had freewill so did the angels they chose poorly so now this is how God plans to remove all sin from the earth.

We all have been given a choice out of freewill to choose God or satans wicked world. You can't be on the fence you're on one side or the other each side knows what to expect in the future.

You're wrong. I do not believe in god but nor do I do harm upon others. Not believing in god is tantamount to not believing in Satan.

You have presented a false dichotomy.

A very simple point i was making. You identified satan as lucifer, i merely said that is misinformation because the name lucifer does not appear in the scriptures.

Ok so you don't believe in God or satan that does not release you from falsely identifying satan as lucifer.

And you were ridiculing the other poster by making the comment atleast have it right according to the story i am doing the same to you.

You should ridicule your fellow bible thumpers then because I merely used the Christian vernacular.

But then I found this.

Lucifer is mentioned in the bible.

Isiah Ch 14 v 12

12How art thou afallen from bheaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
 
The misinformed use the name lucifer for satan.

No that is not it, God yes created satan but as humans had freewill so did the angels they chose poorly so now this is how God plans to remove all sin from the earth.

We all have been given a choice out of freewill to choose God or satans wicked world. You can't be on the fence you're on one side or the other each side knows what to expect in the future.

You're wrong. I do not believe in god but nor do I do harm upon others. Not believing in god is tantamount to not believing in Satan.

You have presented a false dichotomy.
Yep I believe in NO supernatural beings nor afterlife.

Most athieist don't :lol:

But from my stand point if God exists that does not release or excuse you from what God requires. I think it makes since to atleast consider how life truly began and see if there is evidence of the creator that you may have overlooked.
 

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