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Unemployment compensation is compensation for being unemployed in our at-will employment States. Any amount you earn would reduce the unemployment compensation benefit. So, why do that instead of simply get an easy job that pays at least fifteen dollars an hour if you need more money. Or, learn how to invest in markets until you can generate enough income to meet your current lifestyle goals?I didn't complain about taxes, that is you trying to change the subject because you have gotten to a point where you can't answer a simple question.
Why do I need to qualify for UC and another person does not? Do you not believe in unemployment for simply being unemployed?
The extended benefits are what helped those participants be more rational and helped engender the more favorable multiplier.The extended unemployment is an added 13 weeks,
Not at all. It is merely your lack of understanding that is delusional. A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage can generate over nine times more than can the minimum wage at 7.25 due to our system of progressive taxation. A nine to one ratio. More taxes will be generated simply because people making more will qualify for less earned income tax credit.That is a lie. Somehow you think that paying thousands of people out of the tax coffers will create so much more taxes that the original workers will not pay more taxes? That is delusional.
Plus, look at the taxes on people making less. With Earned Income Credit and such, they actually pay very little in income taxes.
lol. I have done it and did not complain about taxes like right wingers tend to do.I have the moral fortitude to work for a living and support myself. You should try it.
Bearing true witness to our own laws is also being socially responsible; and multiplier of two is being fiscally responsible in an at-will employment State.Social responsibility is called working and not asking others to support you because you are to lazy to work. That is what is socially responsibility is. Why do you want to change the rules on unemployment? Why do you now need a qualifier?
Not at all. It is merely your lack of understanding that is delusional. A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage can generate over nine times more than can the minimum wage at 7.25 due to our system of progressive taxation. A nine to one ratio. More taxes will be generated simply because people making more will qualify for less earned income tax credit.That is a lie. Somehow you think that paying thousands of people out of the tax coffers will create so much more taxes that the original workers will not pay more taxes? That is delusional.
Plus, look at the taxes on people making less. With Earned Income Credit and such, they actually pay very little in income taxes.
Absolute bullshit. Do you have link for that? Because I can prove you are lying.
2020-2021 Tax Brackets | Bankrate
That link shows the federal tax brackets. For a single person making between $9,876 and $40,125, the tax rate is 12%. $7.25 an hour, working 40 hours a week comes to $15,080.00. $15 an hour, working 40 hours a week comes to $31,200.00.
Both $7.25 and $15 pay the same tax percentage of 12%. On $7.25 and hour that comes to $1,809.60 in taxes. On $15 and hour it comes to $3,744.00.
That is NOT nine times more tax paid. Not even close.
Blanket statements by right wingers are worse.Not at all. Right wingers have no facts and merely believe they are Right, because in right wing fantasy y'all can Always be Right. You need a link. I provided a link that claims what I stated.That topic was actually covered in this thread in prior pages. First, States can't print their own money and second, red States simply change the way poverty and homelessness are counted to make it seem like they have lower numbers of homeless.We are still talking about millions of persons. We would not need an endless war on poverty if what you claim is true. Why do we have any homeless problems or right wingers complaining about taxes if it is so easy to lift yourselves up from low wage jobs that make you complain about taxes?No, it is not the point. The natural rate of unemployment is around 4%. So 96% of the working population has a job, despite there being no requirement for an employer to hire them.
You have to make yourself attractive to the employer.
Why can't the left wingers solve homelessness in their own states? Why is homelessness more prominent in left winger states?
You are incorrect on how the count, the homeless issue is greater in California, Oregon and Washington. Please keep up, you just like to avoid the hard cold facts because they hurt you ideology.
You and your right BS is getting old, your blanket statements are moronic at best. It doesn’t advance anything. As far as your homeless BS, 8 of the top 9 areas in homelessness are heavy blue states.
Homelessness in the US: These 9 states have the worst crises. These are numbers from the fed, not by state agencies. Spare me your BS.
Blue States tend to have better benefits. Red States simply try to criminalize poverty.
Homelessness is growing at an alarming rate locally and nationally, and many cities’ solution to the crisis is to criminalize poverty by passing constitutionally dubious laws crafted to harass the homeless. Sadly, Memphis is no exception to this. Such efforts are not only inhumane and immoral, but have been legally challenged as violations of the First, Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments. More to the point, these efforts are ineffective, counterproductive and fiscally irresponsible.--https://midsouthpeace.org/the-issues/homelessness-and-poverty/
www.latimes.com
endhomelessness.org
www.inman.com
Capitalism still has a natural rate of unemployment and why is there any homelessness in Right to Work States?No, they are not. But employers hire people every day. Aside from the pandemic lockdown, the employers in the US hire the overwhelming majority of the population.
In order to get a job, especially a better job, you try to curry the favor of the employer. Not being a suckup, but by doing what they need to make their business better.
Changing direction yet again.
Not at all. It is merely your lack of understanding that is delusional. A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage can generate over nine times more than can the minimum wage at 7.25 due to our system of progressive taxation. A nine to one ratio. More taxes will be generated simply because people making more will qualify for less earned income tax credit.That is a lie. Somehow you think that paying thousands of people out of the tax coffers will create so much more taxes that the original workers will not pay more taxes? That is delusional.
Plus, look at the taxes on people making less. With Earned Income Credit and such, they actually pay very little in income taxes.
Absolute bullshit. Do you have link for that? Because I can prove you are lying.
2020-2021 Tax Brackets | Bankrate
That link shows the federal tax brackets. For a single person making between $9,876 and $40,125, the tax rate is 12%. $7.25 an hour, working 40 hours a week comes to $15,080.00. $15 an hour, working 40 hours a week comes to $31,200.00.
Both $7.25 and $15 pay the same tax percentage of 12%. On $7.25 and hour that comes to $1,809.60 in taxes. On $15 and hour it comes to $3,744.00.
That is NOT nine times more tax paid. Not even close.
Absolute bullshit. Do you have link for that? Because I can prove you are lying.
He's right that the individual pays more in the 12% bracket but the corporation pays
less tax in the 21% bracket. Besides reducing employment, it would also reduce
net government revenues.
Any income should should reduce the benefit amount to keep it simple; no need to encourage greed with a social policy.We aren’t talking about earned income and you know it. We are talking passive income, like SSI, 401K and pensions. So, earned income would lower it your unemployment, however passive income does not and that is what I have, so I should get 100% of the unemployment. Funny how you only want some to get money without working but with others you show your bigotry.Earned income reduces the benefit amount.There are no rules that say you can't have other income coming in if you become unemployed. So you are wanting to add rules.
Not at all. It is merely your lack of understanding that is delusional. A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage can generate over nine times more than can the minimum wage at 7.25 due to our system of progressive taxation. A nine to one ratio. More taxes will be generated simply because people making more will qualify for less earned income tax credit.That is a lie. Somehow you think that paying thousands of people out of the tax coffers will create so much more taxes that the original workers will not pay more taxes? That is delusional.
Plus, look at the taxes on people making less. With Earned Income Credit and such, they actually pay very little in income taxes.
Absolute bullshit. Do you have link for that? Because I can prove you are lying.
2020-2021 Tax Brackets | Bankrate
That link shows the federal tax brackets. For a single person making between $9,876 and $40,125, the tax rate is 12%. $7.25 an hour, working 40 hours a week comes to $15,080.00. $15 an hour, working 40 hours a week comes to $31,200.00.
Both $7.25 and $15 pay the same tax percentage of 12%. On $7.25 and hour that comes to $1,809.60 in taxes. On $15 and hour it comes to $3,744.00.
That is NOT nine times more tax paid. Not even close.
Absolute bullshit. Do you have link for that? Because I can prove you are lying.
He's right that the individual pays more in the 12% bracket but the corporation pays
less tax in the 21% bracket. Besides reducing employment, it would also reduce
net government revenues.
Yes, the individual pays more in the 12% tax bracket. But not 9 times more, as he claimed. It is about 2 times more, like the pay rate is roughly 2 times more.
And I am saying that you are completely ignoring the very real opportunity cost AND the fact that you would be changing the program fundamentally, so your cherished and repeated multiplier effect will simply NOT be 2.I am saying that your view of a zero sum effect is not real. There is a difference.Are you actually pretending that the opportunity cost is not real?
Well, I can see you're not budging from your mantra. Shame, really, since there have been some very helpful attempts at getting you to see the truth. Your first sentence is a flat out untruth and a fallacy. If you had any integrity at all you would stop repeating it.Unemployment compensation is compensation for being unemployed in our at-will employment States. Any amount you earn would reduce the unemployment compensation benefit. So, why do that instead of simply get an easy job that pays at least fifteen dollars an hour if you need more money. Or, learn how to invest in markets until you can generate enough income to meet your current lifestyle goals?I didn't complain about taxes, that is you trying to change the subject because you have gotten to a point where you can't answer a simple question.
Why do I need to qualify for UC and another person does not? Do you not believe in unemployment for simply being unemployed?
You won't get a lot of tax money from people making $15/hr. Why do you think you will get enough money from the people making $15/hr to pay for all the people you're going to give $15/hr to not work? Are you being deliberately dumb about this?Yes, a lot of tax money would be coming in and a lot of that taxed money would be going out and generating an already measured multiplier of two.Because you need a lot of tax revenue coming in to pay for the ones who refuse to work, and the more that quit, the fewer there are generating that revenue. Besides, inflation would eat up the boost from the higher payouts. In short order we would be right back where we started with you guys complaining that $15/hr isn't enough to buy weed any more.Why would it matter if Labor could simply quit on an at-will basis in an at-will employment State?IOW, inflation. Do it too fast and you cost a lot of jobs in a short period of time that the market cannot absorb.
Would you please cite your source that homelessness is growing at an alarming rate? We just had a Republican president and the press loves to drag out the old homeless problem when Republicans are president, and they haven't been talking about it.Blanket statements by right wingers are worse.Not at all. Right wingers have no facts and merely believe they are Right, because in right wing fantasy y'all can Always be Right. You need a link. I provided a link that claims what I stated.That topic was actually covered in this thread in prior pages. First, States can't print their own money and second, red States simply change the way poverty and homelessness are counted to make it seem like they have lower numbers of homeless.We are still talking about millions of persons. We would not need an endless war on poverty if what you claim is true. Why do we have any homeless problems or right wingers complaining about taxes if it is so easy to lift yourselves up from low wage jobs that make you complain about taxes?No, it is not the point. The natural rate of unemployment is around 4%. So 96% of the working population has a job, despite there being no requirement for an employer to hire them.
You have to make yourself attractive to the employer.
Why can't the left wingers solve homelessness in their own states? Why is homelessness more prominent in left winger states?
You are incorrect on how the count, the homeless issue is greater in California, Oregon and Washington. Please keep up, you just like to avoid the hard cold facts because they hurt you ideology.
You and your right BS is getting old, your blanket statements are moronic at best. It doesn’t advance anything. As far as your homeless BS, 8 of the top 9 areas in homelessness are heavy blue states.
Homelessness in the US: These 9 states have the worst crises. These are numbers from the fed, not by state agencies. Spare me your BS.
Blue States tend to have better benefits. Red States simply try to criminalize poverty.
Homelessness is growing at an alarming rate locally and nationally, and many cities’ solution to the crisis is to criminalize poverty by passing constitutionally dubious laws crafted to harass the homeless. Sadly, Memphis is no exception to this. Such efforts are not only inhumane and immoral, but have been legally challenged as violations of the First, Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments. More to the point, these efforts are ineffective, counterproductive and fiscally irresponsible.--https://midsouthpeace.org/the-issues/homelessness-and-poverty/
Well, I can see you're not budging from your mantra. Shame, really, since there have been some very helpful attempts at getting you to see the truth. Your first sentence is a flat out untruth and a fallacy. If you had any integrity at all you would stop repeating it.Unemployment compensation is compensation for being unemployed in our at-will employment States. Any amount you earn would reduce the unemployment compensation benefit. So, why do that instead of simply get an easy job that pays at least fifteen dollars an hour if you need more money. Or, learn how to invest in markets until you can generate enough income to meet your current lifestyle goals?I didn't complain about taxes, that is you trying to change the subject because you have gotten to a point where you can't answer a simple question.
Why do I need to qualify for UC and another person does not? Do you not believe in unemployment for simply being unemployed?
He seems to think that paying non-working people $15/hr will generate enough tax revenue that we can afford to pay non-working people $15/hr. Perpetual motion machine, here we come!Wages will have an upward pressure since labor will be using those metrics to consider participation in the market for labor.Yes, it would be higher than it is now since unemployment compensation could be providing an upward pressure wages. Simply doubling the minimum wage is sufficient proof. An employee making fifteen dollars an hour simply makes more money that at the current minimum wage and need not complain about taxes.You miss the point that your net income would be higher even with any potential taxes taken out. And, even those on unemployment compensation pay general taxes which reduces their net income.Yes, they would be paid by lowering my net income, which I earned. You keep bouncing back and forth between what helps the poor and what helps the economy.
My net income would not be higher by taking taxes out to give to someone else who refuses to work.
I have not been paid minimum wage in 40 years. If you raise minimum wages, the entire country's pay does not go up by that amount.
But my taxes go up to cover the lazy asses who want to sit at home and collect my tax dollars for doing nothing.
Your taxes will not go up since even those on unemployment compensation will be paying taxes not just you.
That is a lie. Somehow you think that paying thousands of people out of the tax coffers will create so much more taxes that the original workers will not pay more taxes? That is delusional.
Plus, look at the taxes on people making less. With Earned Income Credit and such, they actually pay very little in income taxes.
Dude, get it through your thick skull. You CANNOT quit and go on unemployment. Why do you persist in this fantasy?Simply quit and go on unemployment. No one is making you work. Stop creating problems for others due to Your lack of moral fortitude. I am sure there are plenty of other people who would love to make what you make and complain less about taxes.Why would they bother working if they could be lazy, and do nothing? And, it would depend on whether or not they get caught eventually. Fraud is still illegal and only hypocritical illegals whine about less fortunate illegals.Earned income from gainful employment usually has to be reported for unemployment compensation purposes and is current practice now.He keeps getting himself caught on that one. Bottom line, he doesn't want anyone else applying means testing, just him.
And if people do not report their income from gainful employment, such as those who are paid cash? What happens to them in the new plan of yours?
It bothers me because I am working hard and I am separated from my family to earn the money they get handed for free.
There will always be homelessness.Capitalism still has a natural rate of unemployment and why is there any homelessness in Right to Work States?No, they are not. But employers hire people every day. Aside from the pandemic lockdown, the employers in the US hire the overwhelming majority of the population.
In order to get a job, especially a better job, you try to curry the favor of the employer. Not being a suckup, but by doing what they need to make their business better.
