What The Mueller Report ACTUALLY States

[M14 Shooter]

As far as the "substance" of your post, which is also sorely lacking.... it's not that I failed to address it, it's again your ignorance by asking me to prove something I never asserted. I never said trump obstructed justice, ya flamin' moron. In fact, I've said he didn't.

Please - continue to wallow in your irrelevance, Spunky, and let us know when you have something meaningful to say.

 

[Faun]

As far as the "substance" of your post, which is also sorely lacking.... it's not that I failed to address it, it's again your ignorance by asking me to prove something I never asserted. I never said trump obstructed justice, ya flamin' moron. In fact, I've said he didn't.

Please - continue to wallow in your irrelevance, Spunky, and let us know when you have something meaningful to say.

LOL

Spits the mindless parrot who can only squawk back what it hears. Isn't that right, Spunky?

Meanwhile, you still look like a complete moron by repeatedly insisting that trump had to commit an act of corruption in order to have violated the law you clearly don't understand as corruption is clearly not a required element of that law.

 

[The Original Tree]

You had a Stacked and Biased Deck Against Trump and still could not Frame Him.

Half of the people on Mueller's so called Team, are under Criminal Investigation and will be Indicted and sent to Jail.

Sux to be you.

No Collusion Means No Collusion.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Not according to the very statute you posted. What a pity you don't understand what you post.

When did Trump, by threats of force, use of force, or any threatening communication, obstruct, impede or influence?
Where are these instances discussed in the Mueller report?
They aren't?

You're back to proving a corrupt intent. Spunky.
Mueller couldn't do it, so...

LOLOL

I like how I call you Spunky, so you lash out by calling me spunky. Between not thinking up your own insults and not understanding the meaning of the word, "or," you demonstrate a severe lacking ability of cognition.

Again... what a pity. <smh>

/——/ Libtards flailing in the wind with nothing to impeach Trump with.

 

[caddo kid]

There seems to be some confusion concerning what the SC Mueller report actually contains.

Many here @ USMB seem to love to discuss the Mueller report but it is pretty obvious that 99.99% of the members here that comment on the report have NOT read the report.
I believe we need to set the record straight on a couple of the FACTS within the Mueller report.

I keep hearing members here @ USMB make really stupid statements concerning the Mueller investigation. One of the dumbest implications I constantly hear from USMB members is that there was no crime so, there could be no obstruction. That is complete baloney folks.

If we look at Volume II of the report, page 368 of the PDF, section L., Overarching Factual Issues, we can learn there is precedent law in place that precludes any underlying crime from an obstruction process. Please see the below from page 369 of the PDF of the Mueller report.

U.S. Department of Justice Atter11ey Werk Preettet // May Cetttaitt Material Preteetee U11eer Fee. R . Cril'H. P. 6(e) Second, many obstruction cases involve the attempted or actual cover-up of an underlying crime. Personal criminal conduct can furnish strong evidence that the individual had an improper obstructive purpose, see, e.g. , United States v. Willoughby, 860 F.2d 15, 24 (2d Cir. 1988), or that he contemplated an effect on an official proceeding, see, e.g., United States v. Binday, 804 F.3d 558, 591 (2d Cir. 2015). But proof of such a crime is not an element of an obstruction offense. See United States v. Greer, 872 F.3d 790, 798 (6th Cir. 2017) (stating, in applying the obstruction sentencing guideline, that "obstruction of a criminal investigation is punishable even if the prosecution is ultimately unsuccessful or even if the investigation ultimately reveals no underlying crime"). Obstruction of justice can be motivated by a desire to protect non-criminal personal interests, to protect against investigations where underlying criminal liability falls into a gray area, or to avoid personal embarrassment. The injury to the integrity of the justice system is the same regardless of whether a person committed an underlying wrong.

There you have it folks: No underlying crime need be proven for an obstruction case to be determined, and/or pursued.



Now, on to the next observation. Many members here @ USMB continue to (erroneously) voice that there was NO obstruction by Trump, and/or no attempts by Trump to obstruct the Mueller investigation.
That is COMPLETE BULLSHIT.

The numerous attempts by Trump to obstruct the Mueller investigation can be learned by reading pages 224 to 448 of the PDF.

So, in conclusion, I hope this will help to educate the many here @ USMB that continue to make erroneous claims concerning the Mueller report, Trump’s documented attempts to obstruct the investigation, and the fact that there is NO need to prove any underlying criminal activity to pursue an obstruction case.

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

You’re welcome.

They aren't gonna read it. tRump said it exonerated him totally and Hannity backed him up so that's all they needed to hear.

Trumpers are foremost lazy retarded fucks & they refuse to read anything

 

[caddo kid]

That is quite telling when a Republican refers to over 220 pages of the Mueller report that documents at least 10 attempts by Trump to obstruct the Mueller investigation as "fantasy"

Mueller understood obstruction only exists if intent can be proven -- and he could not prove intent.
Why do you refuse to understand this?

Yes, it's obvious now that Nunes is referring to the Mueller report as the Mueller dossier & fantasy, a document the GOP talking heads has already declared DOA, that the GOP is becoming desperate because they know Congress is gonna ream Trump's lying, obstructing ass.

LOFL ...................

I really hope Nunes is indicted for obstruction of justice and witness tampering.

It states members of Congress contacted Flynn in attempts to influence his position in regard to the Mueller investigation.

The question begs: If Trump & his associates were innocent of any conspiracy with any Russian persons, why did these people act like they were guilty?

/——/ You’re confusing acting guilty with total outrage at being falsely accused and having his family attacked. But you’re simple minded and can’t tell the difference.

So, you imply an innocent man should & does act & look guilty; you are a complete dumb ass

 

[caddo kid]

Not according to the very statute you posted. What a pity you don't understand what you post.

When did Trump, by threats of force, use of force, or any threatening communication, obstruct, impede or influence?
Where are these instances discussed in the Mueller report?
They aren't?

You're back to proving a corrupt intent. Spunky.
Mueller couldn't do it, so...

what a fucking moron; you haven't read any of the report. Obvious as Hell

 

[caddo kid]

There you have it folks: No underlying crime need be proven for an obstruction case to be determined, and/or pursued.

Federal laws states:

18 U.S. Code § 1505.
Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication influences, obstructs, or impedes or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of the law...
18 U.S. Code § 1505 - Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees

For obstruction to exist, the motive for the claimed obstruction must be "corrupt".
For a conviction of obstruction, the prosecutor must prove said motive was "corrupt".
Trump knew the Mueller investigation would find nothing on collusion with Russia; the Trump administration cooperated with the Mueller investigation in innumerable ways.

Prove Trump's motives were corrupt..

You don't know the meaning of the word, "OR," do ya, Spunky?

Under the law, for obstruction to exist, the allegedly obstructive act must be motivated by a corrupt intent.
Prove Trump's motives were corrupt.

LOL

Not according to the very statute you posted. What a pity you don't understand what you post.

Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication influences, obstructs, or impedes or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of the law under which any pending proceeding is being had before any department or agency of the United States, or the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which any inquiry or investigation is being had by either House, or any committee of either House or any joint committee of the Congress--

Shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331 ), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both.​

emphasis added to highlight a rightard's ignorance

Now here's your homework assignment.... learn the meaning of the word, "or". Hopefully then you will understand why corruption is NOT a required element to violate that statute.

/——-/ For libtards, it’s not what Muller actually reported. It’s what he should have reported.

oh look; another Trumper that never read the report

 

[Faun]

Not according to the very statute you posted. What a pity you don't understand what you post.

When did Trump, by threats of force, use of force, or any threatening communication, obstruct, impede or influence?
Where are these instances discussed in the Mueller report?
They aren't?

You're back to proving a corrupt intent. Spunky.
Mueller couldn't do it, so...

LOLOL

I like how I call you Spunky, so you lash out by calling me spunky. Between not thinking up your own insults and not understanding the meaning of the word, "or," you demonstrate a severe lacking ability of cognition.

Again... what a pity. <smh>

/——/ Libtards flailing in the wind with nothing to impeach Trump with.
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So? I've said all along I would wait until Mueller's report came out before rendering a judgement of guilt or innocence and I posted Mueller's report exonerated trump after it was released.

 

[caddo kid]

twas the night before christmas. twas the steele dossier. now we have the mueller dossier!

Funny how quickly Mueller gets thrown under the bus when his be-all tell-all end-all report doesn't say what the Democrats want to hear.

Mueller understood obstruction only exists if intent can be proven -- and he could not prove intent.
Why do you refuse to understand this?

Yes, it's obvious now that Nunes is referring to the Mueller report as the Mueller dossier & fantasy, a document the GOP talking heads has already declared DOA, that the GOP is becoming desperate because they know Congress is gonna ream Trump's lying, obstructing ass.

LOFL ...................

I really hope Nunes is indicted for obstruction of justice and witness tampering.

It states members of Congress contacted Flynn in attempts to influence his position in regard to the Mueller investigation.

The question begs: If Trump & his associates were innocent of any conspiracy with any Russian persons, why did these people act like they were guilty?

/——/ You’re confusing acting guilty with total outrage at being false accused and having his family attacked. But you’re simple minded and can’t tell the difference.

Dumb ^^^.

Stop attacking the messenger and try to be logical. If anyone on this post is 'simple minded' it is you. Trump does not provide a defense, he attacks everyone, from the press, to the media, to the Justice Dept, to the FBI, to his attorney's, to the Democrats and Republicans who don't kiss his ass. He lies constantly and has no idea how inept he is as a communicator.

Of course people like you don't care that he lies, for he tells you and them what you want to hear. I have one question for you: Is your ignorance of Trump Willful, or are you a biddable fool?

they are all willful fools

 

[basquebromance]

Trump appointed Pappadopolous to his campaign after AFTER AFTER AFTER he met with Mifsud.

after George P came on to the campaign, the campaign shifted its foreign policy into a pro-Russia stance

its all in the Mueller Dossier!

 

[M14 Shooter]

Trumpers are foremost lazy retarded fucks & they refuse to read anything

In contrast to people such as yourself that refuse to read anything that does not confirm your bigoted , hyper-partisan preconceptions.

 

[whitehall]

Get used to the fact that the "collusion" charge was ludicrous and then maybe we can move on.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Not according to the very statute you posted. What a pity you don't understand what you post.

When did Trump, by threats of force, use of force, or any threatening communication, obstruct, impede or influence?
Where are these instances discussed in the Mueller report?
They aren't?

You're back to proving a corrupt intent. Spunky.
Mueller couldn't do it, so...

what a fucking moron; you haven't read any of the report. Obvious as Hell

You mean the report I quoted and you ignored because it disproves your position?

 

[Defiant1]

Mueller understood obstruction only exists if intent can be proven -- and he could not prove intent.
Why do you refuse to understand this?

Yes, it's obvious now that Nunes is referring to the Mueller report as the Mueller dossier & fantasy, a document the GOP talking heads has already declared DOA, that the GOP is becoming desperate because they know Congress is gonna ream Trump's lying, obstructing ass.

LOFL ...................

I really hope Nunes is indicted for obstruction of justice and witness tampering.

It states members of Congress contacted Flynn in attempts to influence his position in regard to the Mueller investigation.

The question begs: If Trump & his associates were innocent of any conspiracy with any Russian persons, why did these people act like they were guilty?

/——/ You’re confusing acting guilty with total outrage at being falsely accused and having his family attacked. But you’re simple minded and can’t tell the difference.

So, you imply an innocent man should & does act & look guilty; you are a complete dumb ass

An innocent man can act however he likes, until judged guilty in a court of law the man is still innocent.

 

[caddo kid]

Trumpers are foremost lazy retarded fucks & they refuse to read anything

In contrast to people such as yourself that refuse to read anything that does not confirm your bigoted , hyper-partisan preconceptions.

I read the entire Mueller report, some of it I have read multiple times.

How many times have you read the Mueller report? Have you read even one sentence of the report?

Do you believe the report is "hyper-partisan?"

I received nothing bigoted by reading the Mueller report.

You sir are a complete fucking moron.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I read the entire Mueller report, some of it I have read multiple times.

Oh.. so then you saw this:

"The term “corruptly” sets a demanding standard. It requires a concrete showing that a person acted with an intent to obtain an improper advantage for himself or someone else, inconsistent with official duty and the rights of others."

And this:

"Second, unlike cases in which a subject engages in obstruction of justice to cover up a crime, the evidence we obtained did not establish that the President was involved in an underlying crime related to Russian election interference. Although the obstruction statutes do not require proof of such a crime, the absence of that evidence affects the analysis of the President’s intent and requires consideration of other possible motives for his conduct."

"Requires the consideration of possible motives", other than corruption. << Reasonable doubt

Thus ends your fantasies about obstruction

 

[caddo kid]

Yes, it's obvious now that Nunes is referring to the Mueller report as the Mueller dossier & fantasy, a document the GOP talking heads has already declared DOA, that the GOP is becoming desperate because they know Congress is gonna ream Trump's lying, obstructing ass.

LOFL ...................

I really hope Nunes is indicted for obstruction of justice and witness tampering.

It states members of Congress contacted Flynn in attempts to influence his position in regard to the Mueller investigation.

The question begs: If Trump & his associates were innocent of any conspiracy with any Russian persons, why did these people act like they were guilty?

/——/ You’re confusing acting guilty with total outrage at being falsely accused and having his family attacked. But you’re simple minded and can’t tell the difference.

So, you imply an innocent man should & does act & look guilty; you are a complete dumb ass

An innocent man can act however he likes, until judged guilty in a court of law the man is still innocent.

If you were being investigated by law enforcement would you go out of your way to act & to look guilty, even if you were projecting you are innocent of any potential connection to the investigation?

LOFL

 

[Defiant1]

Trumpers are foremost lazy retarded fucks & they refuse to read anything

In contrast to people such as yourself that refuse to read anything that does not confirm your bigoted , hyper-partisan preconceptions.

I read the entire Mueller report, some of it I have read multiple times.

How many times have you read the Mueller report? Have you read even one sentence of the report?

Do you believe the report is "hyper-partisan?"

I received nothing bigoted by reading the Mueller report.

You sir are a complete fucking moron.

The report is irrelevant.

Mueller didn't find any reason to file charges, case over.
The report was confidential to the AG.
It didn't have to be released.

No charges, case over.

 

[caddo kid]

I read the entire Mueller report, some of it I have read multiple times.

Oh.. so then you saw this:

"The term “corruptly” sets a demanding standard. It requires a concrete showing that a person acted with an intent to obtain an improper advantage for himself or someone else, inconsistent with official duty and the rights of others."

And this:

"Second, unlike cases in which a subject engages in obstruction of justice to cover up a crime, the evidence we obtained did not establish that the President was involved in an underlying crime related to Russian election interference. Although the obstruction statutes do not require proof of such a crime, the absence of that evidence affects the analysis of the President’s intent and requires consideration of other possible motives for his conduct."

"Requires the consideration of possible motives", other than corruption. << Reasonable doubt

Thus ends your fantasies about obstruction

No, it does not.

You & all the Trumpers can keep on screaming about how Barr stated Mueller's report exonerated Trump.

You & all the Trumpers can keep on screaming about how Trump stated Mueller's report exonerated Trump.

This is yet to be a 'done deal' ................. stay tuned ................