Where do you think all this division and hatred in America is leading?

Will Americans simply "get over" their differences and find a way to live together in peace?
This is clearly what needs to happen, but I just don't see it happening any time soon.

Not only have we become a terribly tribal and narcissistic country, but those who work to divide us further are still succeeding. All the various members of the tribes are buying into it and playing right along.

So whatever ends up happening, I don't think we've seen the worst yet.
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And people know it too, thus the surge in gun purchases...
 
We all get wrapped up in the here and now. Today's stunning headlines that feed the flames.

But it might do some good to reflect on where this is all heading as that is what ultimately matters.

Will Americans simply "get over" their differences and find a way to live together in peace?
Will Conservatives eventually simply die off leaving the nation to modern day Leftists?
Will the exposure of corruption on one side sink that side to the point of irrelevance?
Will a Civil War erupt?
Or will we just become a disjointed nation of simmering hatred and anger for one another and this will go on for a very long time, eroding the fabric of our nation and tearing it down. China has already or is soon to overtake the US as the worlds largest economy. Yet we are too busy calling the President an Orange Clown or creating mean spirited video memes to see the bigger picture.

Maybe we can look to other countries and to history for some answers? Except that the Left is hell bent on erasing ours.

So let's look at another country torn apart by similar difficulties. Venezuela.
Leftist Venezuelans eventually won (for now) the fight by fighting harder and by using a mantra of by any means necessary. I see what's happening in America today as frighteningly similar.

We may be one election cycle away from dramatic changes. One person who grabs power (as just happened in China AND the Philippines by the way) and steers this nation into an entirely different direction.
And it's never towards freedom for the people in these situations.

Let's not fool ourselves and say it could "never" happen. It was once said we'd never have a black President and that China could never rival the USA economically or militarily.
well, currently, it looks like the left is eating itself from within.

when you send the media, to focus on some nazis
We all get wrapped up in the here and now. Today's stunning headlines that feed the flames.

But it might do some good to reflect on where this is all heading as that is what ultimately matters.

Will Americans simply "get over" their differences and find a way to live together in peace?
Will Conservatives eventually simply die off leaving the nation to modern day Leftists?
Will the exposure of corruption on one side sink that side to the point of irrelevance?
Will a Civil War erupt?
Or will we just become a disjointed nation of simmering hatred and anger for one another and this will go on for a very long time, eroding the fabric of our nation and tearing it down. China has already or is soon to overtake the US as the worlds largest economy. Yet we are too busy calling the President an Orange Clown or creating mean spirited video memes to see the bigger picture.

Maybe we can look to other countries and to history for some answers? Except that the Left is hell bent on erasing ours.

So let's look at another country torn apart by similar difficulties. Venezuela.
Leftist Venezuelans eventually won (for now) the fight by fighting harder and by using a mantra of by any means necessary. I see what's happening in America today as frighteningly similar.

We may be one election cycle away from dramatic changes. One person who grabs power (as just happened in China AND the Philippines by the way) and steers this nation into an entirely different direction.
And it's never towards freedom for the people in these situations.

Let's not fool ourselves and say it could "never" happen. It was once said we'd never have a black President and that China could never rival the USA economically or militarily.
currently the left is eating itself. each victim class is turning on the other for more attention and special rights.

antifa is going to pull a 'remember remember the 5th of November', but they are going to do it to other leftists, so they are literally biting the hand that feeds them.

this is what America looks like with hippies and their kids in places of power, they are literally trying to destroy the country from within.


If you don't know how to be self sufficient or live in a place you can't be, time to learn or move.

The right talked a big game about breaking away, but the left is now violent, they have attacked and murdered cons, even attempted mass murder. It's only a matter of time before there's serious violence.
 
Evercurious accepts

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It's leading where it always leads, to the eventual, inevitable victory of Progress.

Look at this way, RWnuts. Your children and grandchildren will grow up seeing as acceptable any number of things that you fought against for decades.
 
Liberals are losing the war the American people are fed up with them. Its their own fault they kept pushing and pushing until we were forced to give them a beating, now they are not so uppity.
Take the past 3 decades. How many years of solid conservative leadership have been voted in by the American people?
 
Liberals are losing the war the American people are fed up with them. Its their own fault they kept pushing and pushing until we were forced to give them a beating, now they are not so uppity.
Take the past 3 decades. How many years of solid conservative leadership have been voted in by the American people?
And how many years of solid conservative leadership have been voted OUT by the American people?
 
Liberals are losing the war the American people are fed up with them. Its their own fault they kept pushing and pushing until we were forced to give them a beating, now they are not so uppity.
Take the past 3 decades. How many years of solid conservative leadership have been voted in by the American people?

You lost the House, the Senate, the White House, and the American people tissue? :laugh:
 
Liberals are losing the war the American people are fed up with them. Its their own fault they kept pushing and pushing until we were forced to give them a beating, now they are not so uppity.
Take the past 3 decades. How many years of solid conservative leadership have been voted in by the American people?

You lost the House, the Senate, the White House, and the American people tissue? :laugh:

Not to mention 2/3 of the governorships across the country.
 
Liberals are losing the war the American people are fed up with them. Its their own fault they kept pushing and pushing until we were forced to give them a beating, now they are not so uppity.
Take the past 3 decades. How many years of solid conservative leadership have been voted in by the American people?

More than 30, still Reagan, Bush I.
 
Liberals are losing the war the American people are fed up with them. Its their own fault they kept pushing and pushing until we were forced to give them a beating, now they are not so uppity.
Take the past 3 decades. How many years of solid conservative leadership have been voted in by the American people?

You lost the House, the Senate, the White House, and the American people tissue? :laugh:

And despite that conservatives can't advance their agenda one bit.
 
The 60's were at least as bad as now, probably worse.

And back then, progressives were fighting for women's rights, gay rights, anti-discrimination against racial minorities, environmental protections...

...all against the Right.

And how did all that work out for you conservatives???
 
Liberals are losing the war the American people are fed up with them. Its their own fault they kept pushing and pushing until we were forced to give them a beating, now they are not so uppity.
Take the past 3 decades. How many years of solid conservative leadership have been voted in by the American people?

You lost the House, the Senate, the White House, and the American people tissue? :laugh:

And despite that conservatives can't advance their agenda one bit.

Riiiiight that's why your side is foaming at the mouth over Trump's tax reform. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
Liberals are losing the war the American people are fed up with them. Its their own fault they kept pushing and pushing until we were forced to give them a beating, now they are not so uppity.
Take the past 3 decades. How many years of solid conservative leadership have been voted in by the American people?

You lost the House, the Senate, the White House, and the American people tissue? :laugh:

And despite that conservatives can't advance their agenda one bit.

Riiiiight that's why your side is foaming at the mouth over Trump's tax reform. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

I'm not. I just know that it's stupid policy.

I also know that it hasn't passed yet.
 
We all get wrapped up in the here and now. Today's stunning headlines that feed the flames.

But it might do some good to reflect on where this is all heading as that is what ultimately matters.

Will Americans simply "get over" their differences and find a way to live together in peace?
Will Conservatives eventually simply die off leaving the nation to modern day Leftists?
Will the exposure of corruption on one side sink that side to the point of irrelevance?
Will a Civil War erupt?
Or will we just become a disjointed nation of simmering hatred and anger for one another and this will go on for a very long time, eroding the fabric of our nation and tearing it down. China has already or is soon to overtake the US as the worlds largest economy. Yet we are too busy calling the President an Orange Clown or creating mean spirited video memes to see the bigger picture.

Maybe we can look to other countries and to history for some answers? Except that the Left is hell bent on erasing ours.

So let's look at another country torn apart by similar difficulties. Venezuela.
Leftist Venezuelans eventually won (for now) the fight by fighting harder and by using a mantra of by any means necessary. I see what's happening in America today as frighteningly similar.

We may be one election cycle away from dramatic changes. One person who grabs power (as just happened in China AND the Philippines by the way) and steers this nation into an entirely different direction.
And it's never towards freedom for the people in these situations.

Let's not fool ourselves and say it could "never" happen. It was once said we'd never have a black President and that China could never rival the USA economically or militarily.

Here is the problem:

On the right, there is an infighting between the conservatives and the establishment. Currently, the conservative Constitutionalist people are gaining ground.

On the left, they ran an admitted Socialist who many believed would have won if not for vote rigging.

The US Communist Party endorsed Sanders, Clinton and Obama both elections.

So the question is, where is the middle ground between constitutionalism and Communism? There is none. It's like trying to find a middle ground between Israel and the Palestinians.

My solution? Divide the country right in half north to south. Conservatives on one side of the country and liberals on the other. Let each run their own country they way they desire. That way, everybody is happy and no more arguing about which direction the country should go.
IMO, there is no "problem," Ray. Just people buying the garbage on the internet, such as here, where we amuse ourselves by creating drama even better than our teenagers.
Go out and talk to real folks face to face and the world is still normal. There will be no civil war. It's all social media fed hype. Why some people are dreaming of a civil war, I can't imagine. Is it for an excuse to shoot some guns at your neighbors?
 
The sixties were far worse, and we survived it.

We will survive Trump and the far right Russia lovers.
 
Liberals are losing the war the American people are fed up with them. Its their own fault they kept pushing and pushing until we were forced to give them a beating, now they are not so uppity.
Take the past 3 decades. How many years of solid conservative leadership have been voted in by the American people?
And how many years of solid conservative leadership have been voted OUT by the American people?
I don’t know, I guess that depends on how many years of solid conservative leadership we’ve had over the past 30 years... care to answer that question?
 
Liberals are losing the war the American people are fed up with them. Its their own fault they kept pushing and pushing until we were forced to give them a beating, now they are not so uppity.
Take the past 3 decades. How many years of solid conservative leadership have been voted in by the American people?

You lost the House, the Senate, the White House, and the American people tissue? :laugh:
No, don’t need a tissue... care to answer the question?
 
We all get wrapped up in the here and now. Today's stunning headlines that feed the flames.

But it might do some good to reflect on where this is all heading as that is what ultimately matters.

Will Americans simply "get over" their differences and find a way to live together in peace?
Will Conservatives eventually simply die off leaving the nation to modern day Leftists?
Will the exposure of corruption on one side sink that side to the point of irrelevance?
Will a Civil War erupt?
Or will we just become a disjointed nation of simmering hatred and anger for one another and this will go on for a very long time, eroding the fabric of our nation and tearing it down. China has already or is soon to overtake the US as the worlds largest economy. Yet we are too busy calling the President an Orange Clown or creating mean spirited video memes to see the bigger picture.

Maybe we can look to other countries and to history for some answers? Except that the Left is hell bent on erasing ours.

So let's look at another country torn apart by similar difficulties. Venezuela.
Leftist Venezuelans eventually won (for now) the fight by fighting harder and by using a mantra of by any means necessary. I see what's happening in America today as frighteningly similar.

We may be one election cycle away from dramatic changes. One person who grabs power (as just happened in China AND the Philippines by the way) and steers this nation into an entirely different direction.
And it's never towards freedom for the people in these situations.

Let's not fool ourselves and say it could "never" happen. It was once said we'd never have a black President and that China could never rival the USA economically or militarily.

Here is the problem:

On the right, there is an infighting between the conservatives and the establishment. Currently, the conservative Constitutionalist people are gaining ground.

On the left, they ran an admitted Socialist who many believed would have won if not for vote rigging.

The US Communist Party endorsed Sanders, Clinton and Obama both elections.

So the question is, where is the middle ground between constitutionalism and Communism? There is none. It's like trying to find a middle ground between Israel and the Palestinians.

My solution? Divide the country right in half north to south. Conservatives on one side of the country and liberals on the other. Let each run their own country they way they desire. That way, everybody is happy and no more arguing about which direction the country should go.
IMO, there is no "problem," Ray. Just people buying the garbage on the internet, such as here, where we amuse ourselves by creating drama even better than our teenagers.
Go out and talk to real folks face to face and the world is still normal. There will be no civil war. It's all social media fed hype. Why some people are dreaming of a civil war, I can't imagine. Is it for an excuse to shoot some guns at your neighbors?

Venting anger for some I suppose. But my point is Americans are becoming more divided all the time, so I can understand that anger, especially living in the city where much of it IS Democrat.

I don't like the Democrat way, I don't want to do things the Democrat way, I don't want anybody telling me how to handle my personal affairs, and I just believe that liberalism is anti-American. So I think it's time we part ways if at all possible. This way everybody can be happy; at least I'd be happy.

If the liberals want to attack their police and beat them into the ground, that would be up to them. If they got upset and burned their towns down, good for them. If they want most of their people on welfare, put them all on welfare for all I care. It wouldn't concern me. Tax your rich at 80% as far as I'm concerned. If they are stupid enough to stay on that side of the country, they deserve to be taxed at 80% Everything would be just dandy.
 
Look up Rutherford Hayes, 1876. When Tilden received more popular votes, yet Hayes won tensions were already high. I would pick 1861-1865 however.
 

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