Where do you think all this division and hatred in America is leading?

[deanrd]

Where do you think all this division and hatred in America is leading?

It's leading the right wing into giving up. Right wing hate is built on ignorance and backward living. After they worshiped at the alter of George W. Bush and were thoroughly screwed over with the Bush tax cuts for the rich, Iraq, and all the other ruinous GOP policies, they voted Trump into office.

Even Trump says Bush was a disaster and Trump will end up being a hundred times worse. After Trump ruins the lives of his followers, I think they will just give up. It's difficult to come back a third time after falling for the BS twice.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We all get wrapped up in the here and now. Today's stunning headlines that feed the flames.

But it might do some good to reflect on where this is all heading as that is what ultimately matters.

Will Americans simply "get over" their differences and find a way to live together in peace?
Will Conservatives eventually simply die off leaving the nation to modern day Leftists?
Will the exposure of corruption on one side sink that side to the point of irrelevance?
Will a Civil War erupt?
Or will we just become a disjointed nation of simmering hatred and anger for one another and this will go on for a very long time, eroding the fabric of our nation and tearing it down. China has already or is soon to overtake the US as the worlds largest economy. Yet we are too busy calling the President an Orange Clown or creating mean spirited video memes to see the bigger picture.

Maybe we can look to other countries and to history for some answers? Except that the Left is hell bent on erasing ours.

So let's look at another country torn apart by similar difficulties. Venezuela.
Leftist Venezuelans eventually won (for now) the fight by fighting harder and by using a mantra of by any means necessary. I see what's happening in America today as frighteningly similar.

We may be one election cycle away from dramatic changes. One person who grabs power (as just happened in China AND the Philippines by the way) and steers this nation into an entirely different direction.
And it's never towards freedom for the people in these situations.

Let's not fool ourselves and say it could "never" happen. It was once said we'd never have a black President and that China could never rival the USA economically or militarily.

I think it is leading to another stunning election upset.

I suspect the GOP will lose the US House in 2018 and Nancy Pelosi will get it back.

Keep dreaming! Hillary, Debbie and the Podesta clan will all be indicted by then.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Where do you think all this division and hatred in America is leading?

It's leading the right wing into giving up. Right wing hate is built on ignorance and backward living. After they worshiped at the alter of George W. Bush and were thoroughly screwed over with the Bush tax cuts for the rich, Iraq, and all the other ruinous GOP policies, they voted Trump into office.

Even Trump says Bush was a disaster and Trump will end up being a hundred times worse. After Trump ruins the lives of his followers, I think they will just give up. It's difficult to come back a third time after falling for the BS twice.

 

[80zephyr]

Maybe we can look to other countries and to history for some answers? Except that the Left is hell bent on erasing ours.

A fine example of placing blame on only one side and ignoring the other. Until we can honestly examine ourselves how can we see other sides?

One day the pendulum will swing back to the center and maybe we'll all learn that compromise is not a dirty word.

The right has compromised for decades. The left has its welfare state, and about every social change you can think of. Divorce, gay marriage, abortion, etc.

The right is tired of compromise, because it is never reciprocated. When we FINALLY stood up and said "enough", the left called us extremists and haters.

Get back to me when the left learns what the word compromise means.

Mark

 

[initforme]

Pit all the overweight lady folk on one side and make em pay huge deductibles and if they actually begin to eat right and lose weight perhaps they can leave.....let me but stock in medical insurance companies first.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We all get wrapped up in the here and now. Today's stunning headlines that feed the flames.

But it might do some good to reflect on where this is all heading as that is what ultimately matters.

Will Americans simply "get over" their differences and find a way to live together in peace?
Will Conservatives eventually simply die off leaving the nation to modern day Leftists?
Will the exposure of corruption on one side sink that side to the point of irrelevance?
Will a Civil War erupt?
Or will we just become a disjointed nation of simmering hatred and anger for one another and this will go on for a very long time, eroding the fabric of our nation and tearing it down. China has already or is soon to overtake the US as the worlds largest economy. Yet we are too busy calling the President an Orange Clown or creating mean spirited video memes to see the bigger picture.

Maybe we can look to other countries and to history for some answers? Except that the Left is hell bent on erasing ours.

So let's look at another country torn apart by similar difficulties. Venezuela.
Leftist Venezuelans eventually won (for now) the fight by fighting harder and by using a mantra of by any means necessary. I see what's happening in America today as frighteningly similar.

We may be one election cycle away from dramatic changes. One person who grabs power (as just happened in China AND the Philippines by the way) and steers this nation into an entirely different direction.
And it's never towards freedom for the people in these situations.

Let's not fool ourselves and say it could "never" happen. It was once said we'd never have a black President and that China could never rival the USA economically or militarily.

Here is the problem:

On the right, there is an infighting between the conservatives and the establishment. Currently, the conservative Constitutionalist people are gaining ground.

On the left, they ran an admitted Socialist who many believed would have won if not for vote rigging.

The US Communist Party endorsed Sanders, Clinton and Obama both elections.

So the question is, where is the middle ground between constitutionalism and Communism? There is none. It's like trying to find a middle ground between Israel and the Palestinians.

My solution? Divide the country right in half north to south. Conservatives on one side of the country and liberals on the other. Let each run their own country they way they desire. That way, everybody is happy and no more arguing about which direction the country should go.

Uhm... Alaska doesn't want to be socialist, we're capitalists... How the hell do we fit into your N/S organization with Washington state being "north"? QQ

Maybe divide it north to south; from Minnesota to Texas, or something along those lines. Yep, a lot of people would have to move, but the next generation of people would really appreciate what we did; at least the conservative generation.

Heck, to never have to put up with liberals again, I would move. And if we voted to have my state in the conservative side and the liberals had to move, my property value would double overnight.

Why? Put a border wall along Washington, Oregon and California and back along the border with Mexico in the west and another along the western border of Pennsylvania, Maryland, and the small section of DC in the east.

That would isolate the vast majority of libs to those areas. We can build a new US capitol in Kansas City or someplace similar.

 

[JakeStarkey]

^^^

 

[80zephyr]

Maybe we can look to other countries and to history for some answers? Except that the Left is hell bent on erasing ours.

A fine example of placing blame on only one side and ignoring the other. Until we can honestly examine ourselves how can we see other sides?

One day the pendulum will swing back to the center and maybe we'll all learn that compromise is not a dirty word.

The right has compromised for decades. The left has its welfare state, and about every social change you can think of. Divorce, gay marriage, abortion, etc.

The right is tired of compromise, because it is never reciprocated. When we FINALLY stood up and said "enough", the left called us extremists and haters.

Get back to me when the left learns what the word compromise means.

Mark

Jake finds my post funny? Then I suppose he can make an extensive list of the gains conservatives have made in the past 50 years or so.

I'll wait.

Mark

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You lost the House, the Senate, the White House, and the American people tissue?

No, don’t need a tissue... care to answer the question?

Its trending away from liberalism and towards conservativism that's all you need to know.

Yes, like it has since our countries inception. It swings like a pendulum which is a good thing. Don’t make it out to be this big revolution.

When you lose the House, Senate, White House, and 30 states to a candidate as weak as Trump that's a bitch slapping. In never gets old rubbing that in

I don’t know what you think you are rubbing in, I didn’t vote for Clinton and I’m not a democrat. I do like to deal in reality though

If you did, you'd be a conservative.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Maybe we can look to other countries and to history for some answers? Except that the Left is hell bent on erasing ours.

A fine example of placing blame on only one side and ignoring the other. Until we can honestly examine ourselves how can we see other sides?

One day the pendulum will swing back to the center and maybe we'll all learn that compromise is not a dirty word.

The right has compromised for decades. The left has its welfare state, and about every social change you can think of. Divorce, gay marriage, abortion, etc.

The right is tired of compromise, because it is never reciprocated. When we FINALLY stood up and said "enough", the left called us extremists and haters.

Get back to me when the left learns what the word compromise means.

Mark

Jake finds my post funny? Then I suppose he can make an extensive list of the gains conservatives have made in the past 50 years or so.

I'll wait.

Mark

Mark, your post is funny because it is so contradictory. You know it. I know it.

 

[80zephyr]

Maybe we can look to other countries and to history for some answers? Except that the Left is hell bent on erasing ours.

A fine example of placing blame on only one side and ignoring the other. Until we can honestly examine ourselves how can we see other sides?

One day the pendulum will swing back to the center and maybe we'll all learn that compromise is not a dirty word.

The right has compromised for decades. The left has its welfare state, and about every social change you can think of. Divorce, gay marriage, abortion, etc.

The right is tired of compromise, because it is never reciprocated. When we FINALLY stood up and said "enough", the left called us extremists and haters.

Get back to me when the left learns what the word compromise means.

Mark

Jake finds my post funny? Then I suppose he can make an extensive list of the gains conservatives have made in the past 50 years or so.

I'll wait.

Mark

Mark, your post is funny because it is so contradictory. You know it. I know it.

No, I don't know it. Explain.

Mark

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

We all get wrapped up in the here and now. Today's stunning headlines that feed the flames.

But it might do some good to reflect on where this is all heading as that is what ultimately matters.

Will Americans simply "get over" their differences and find a way to live together in peace?
Will Conservatives eventually simply die off leaving the nation to modern day Leftists?
Will the exposure of corruption on one side sink that side to the point of irrelevance?
Will a Civil War erupt?
Or will we just become a disjointed nation of simmering hatred and anger for one another and this will go on for a very long time, eroding the fabric of our nation and tearing it down. China has already or is soon to overtake the US as the worlds largest economy. Yet we are too busy calling the President an Orange Clown or creating mean spirited video memes to see the bigger picture.

Maybe we can look to other countries and to history for some answers? Except that the Left is hell bent on erasing ours.

So let's look at another country torn apart by similar difficulties. Venezuela.
Leftist Venezuelans eventually won (for now) the fight by fighting harder and by using a mantra of by any means necessary. I see what's happening in America today as frighteningly similar.

We may be one election cycle away from dramatic changes. One person who grabs power (as just happened in China AND the Philippines by the way) and steers this nation into an entirely different direction.
And it's never towards freedom for the people in these situations.

Let's not fool ourselves and say it could "never" happen. It was once said we'd never have a black President and that China could never rival the USA economically or militarily.

Here is the problem:

On the right, there is an infighting between the conservatives and the establishment. Currently, the conservative Constitutionalist people are gaining ground.

On the left, they ran an admitted Socialist who many believed would have won if not for vote rigging.

The US Communist Party endorsed Sanders, Clinton and Obama both elections.

So the question is, where is the middle ground between constitutionalism and Communism? There is none. It's like trying to find a middle ground between Israel and the Palestinians.

My solution? Divide the country right in half north to south. Conservatives on one side of the country and liberals on the other. Let each run their own country they way they desire. That way, everybody is happy and no more arguing about which direction the country should go.

Uhm... Alaska doesn't want to be socialist, we're capitalists... How the hell do we fit into your N/S organization with Washington state being "north"? QQ

Maybe divide it north to south; from Minnesota to Texas, or something along those lines. Yep, a lot of people would have to move, but the next generation of people would really appreciate what we did; at least the conservative generation.

Heck, to never have to put up with liberals again, I would move. And if we voted to have my state in the conservative side and the liberals had to move, my property value would double overnight.

Why? Put a border wall along Washington, Oregon and California and back along the border with Mexico in the west and another along the western border of Pennsylvania, Maryland, and the small section of DC in the east.

That would isolate the vast majority of libs to those areas. We can build a new US capitol in Kansas City or someplace similar.

Yeah, but the biggest problem would be trying to keep liberals out of our states. In no time at all, they'd be jumping those walls and that would require more police. Of course, since our crime would diminish, maybe all those laid off cops can do the job.

 

[deanrd]

We all get wrapped up in the here and now. Today's stunning headlines that feed the flames.

But it might do some good to reflect on where this is all heading as that is what ultimately matters.

Will Americans simply "get over" their differences and find a way to live together in peace?
Will Conservatives eventually simply die off leaving the nation to modern day Leftists?
Will the exposure of corruption on one side sink that side to the point of irrelevance?
Will a Civil War erupt?
Or will we just become a disjointed nation of simmering hatred and anger for one another and this will go on for a very long time, eroding the fabric of our nation and tearing it down. China has already or is soon to overtake the US as the worlds largest economy. Yet we are too busy calling the President an Orange Clown or creating mean spirited video memes to see the bigger picture.

Maybe we can look to other countries and to history for some answers? Except that the Left is hell bent on erasing ours.

So let's look at another country torn apart by similar difficulties. Venezuela.
Leftist Venezuelans eventually won (for now) the fight by fighting harder and by using a mantra of by any means necessary. I see what's happening in America today as frighteningly similar.

We may be one election cycle away from dramatic changes. One person who grabs power (as just happened in China AND the Philippines by the way) and steers this nation into an entirely different direction.
And it's never towards freedom for the people in these situations.

Let's not fool ourselves and say it could "never" happen. It was once said we'd never have a black President and that China could never rival the USA economically or militarily.

I think it is leading to another stunning election upset.

I suspect the GOP will lose the US House in 2018 and Nancy Pelosi will get it back.

Keep dreaming! Hillary, Debbie and the Podesta clan will all be indicted by then.

You need a reasonable expectation of being guilty of something to be indicted.

 

[80zephyr]

Maybe we can look to other countries and to history for some answers? Except that the Left is hell bent on erasing ours.

A fine example of placing blame on only one side and ignoring the other. Until we can honestly examine ourselves how can we see other sides?

One day the pendulum will swing back to the center and maybe we'll all learn that compromise is not a dirty word.

The right has compromised for decades. The left has its welfare state, and about every social change you can think of. Divorce, gay marriage, abortion, etc.

The right is tired of compromise, because it is never reciprocated. When we FINALLY stood up and said "enough", the left called us extremists and haters.

Get back to me when the left learns what the word compromise means.

Mark

Jake finds my post funny? Then I suppose he can make an extensive list of the gains conservatives have made in the past 50 years or so.

I'll wait.

Mark

Mark, your post is funny because it is so contradictory. You know it. I know it.

No, I don't know it. Explain.

Mark

Come on Jake, make your case.

Mark

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We all get wrapped up in the here and now. Today's stunning headlines that feed the flames.

But it might do some good to reflect on where this is all heading as that is what ultimately matters.

Will Americans simply "get over" their differences and find a way to live together in peace?
Will Conservatives eventually simply die off leaving the nation to modern day Leftists?
Will the exposure of corruption on one side sink that side to the point of irrelevance?
Will a Civil War erupt?
Or will we just become a disjointed nation of simmering hatred and anger for one another and this will go on for a very long time, eroding the fabric of our nation and tearing it down. China has already or is soon to overtake the US as the worlds largest economy. Yet we are too busy calling the President an Orange Clown or creating mean spirited video memes to see the bigger picture.

Maybe we can look to other countries and to history for some answers? Except that the Left is hell bent on erasing ours.

So let's look at another country torn apart by similar difficulties. Venezuela.
Leftist Venezuelans eventually won (for now) the fight by fighting harder and by using a mantra of by any means necessary. I see what's happening in America today as frighteningly similar.

We may be one election cycle away from dramatic changes. One person who grabs power (as just happened in China AND the Philippines by the way) and steers this nation into an entirely different direction.
And it's never towards freedom for the people in these situations.

Let's not fool ourselves and say it could "never" happen. It was once said we'd never have a black President and that China could never rival the USA economically or militarily.

Here is the problem:

On the right, there is an infighting between the conservatives and the establishment. Currently, the conservative Constitutionalist people are gaining ground.

On the left, they ran an admitted Socialist who many believed would have won if not for vote rigging.

The US Communist Party endorsed Sanders, Clinton and Obama both elections.

So the question is, where is the middle ground between constitutionalism and Communism? There is none. It's like trying to find a middle ground between Israel and the Palestinians.

My solution? Divide the country right in half north to south. Conservatives on one side of the country and liberals on the other. Let each run their own country they way they desire. That way, everybody is happy and no more arguing about which direction the country should go.

Uhm... Alaska doesn't want to be socialist, we're capitalists... How the hell do we fit into your N/S organization with Washington state being "north"? QQ

Maybe divide it north to south; from Minnesota to Texas, or something along those lines. Yep, a lot of people would have to move, but the next generation of people would really appreciate what we did; at least the conservative generation.

Heck, to never have to put up with liberals again, I would move. And if we voted to have my state in the conservative side and the liberals had to move, my property value would double overnight.

Why? Put a border wall along Washington, Oregon and California and back along the border with Mexico in the west and another along the western border of Pennsylvania, Maryland, and the small section of DC in the east.

That would isolate the vast majority of libs to those areas. We can build a new US capitol in Kansas City or someplace similar.

Yeah, but the biggest problem would be trying to keep liberals out of our states. In no time at all, they'd be jumping those walls and that would require more police. Of course, since our crime would diminish, maybe all those laid off cops can do the job.

We would not allow any immigration, and if we did, they would never gain the right to vote.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

A fine example of placing blame on only one side and ignoring the other. Until we can honestly examine ourselves how can we see other sides?

One day the pendulum will swing back to the center and maybe we'll all learn that compromise is not a dirty word.

The right has compromised for decades. The left has its welfare state, and about every social change you can think of. Divorce, gay marriage, abortion, etc.

The right is tired of compromise, because it is never reciprocated. When we FINALLY stood up and said "enough", the left called us extremists and haters.

Get back to me when the left learns what the word compromise means.

Mark

Jake finds my post funny? Then I suppose he can make an extensive list of the gains conservatives have made in the past 50 years or so.

I'll wait.

Mark

Mark, your post is funny because it is so contradictory. You know it. I know it.

No, I don't know it. Explain.

Mark

Come on Jake, make your case.

Mark

Jake's only case is mental. That is hwy most have him on "Ignore".

 

[JakeStarkey]

Says the mental Admiral.

 

[initforme]

Holy cow Ray you surely hate poor and minorities from reading your posts. Of course anything under 70 grand gets one in the low wage and of the middle class.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Holy cow Ray you surely hate poor and minorities from reading your posts. Of course anything under 70 grand gets one in the low wage and of the middle class.

Anything specific you wish to address about my posts? I'll be glad to explain.

 

[alang1216]

We all get wrapped up in the here and now. Today's stunning headlines that feed the flames.

But it might do some good to reflect on where this is all heading as that is what ultimately matters.

Will Americans simply "get over" their differences and find a way to live together in peace?
Will Conservatives eventually simply die off leaving the nation to modern day Leftists?
Will the exposure of corruption on one side sink that side to the point of irrelevance?
Will a Civil War erupt?
Or will we just become a disjointed nation of simmering hatred and anger for one another and this will go on for a very long time, eroding the fabric of our nation and tearing it down. China has already or is soon to overtake the US as the worlds largest economy. Yet we are too busy calling the President an Orange Clown or creating mean spirited video memes to see the bigger picture.

Maybe we can look to other countries and to history for some answers? Except that the Left is hell bent on erasing ours.

So let's look at another country torn apart by similar difficulties. Venezuela.
Leftist Venezuelans eventually won (for now) the fight by fighting harder and by using a mantra of by any means necessary. I see what's happening in America today as frighteningly similar.

We may be one election cycle away from dramatic changes. One person who grabs power (as just happened in China AND the Philippines by the way) and steers this nation into an entirely different direction.
And it's never towards freedom for the people in these situations.

Let's not fool ourselves and say it could "never" happen. It was once said we'd never have a black President and that China could never rival the USA economically or militarily.

Here is the problem:

On the right, there is an infighting between the conservatives and the establishment. Currently, the conservative Constitutionalist people are gaining ground.

On the left, they ran an admitted Socialist who many believed would have won if not for vote rigging.

The US Communist Party endorsed Sanders, Clinton and Obama both elections.

So the question is, where is the middle ground between constitutionalism and Communism? There is none. It's like trying to find a middle ground between Israel and the Palestinians.

My solution? Divide the country right in half north to south. Conservatives on one side of the country and liberals on the other. Let each run their own country they way they desire. That way, everybody is happy and no more arguing about which direction the country should go.

Uhm... Alaska doesn't want to be socialist, we're capitalists... How the hell do we fit into your N/S organization with Washington state being "north"? QQ

Maybe divide it north to south; from Minnesota to Texas, or something along those lines. Yep, a lot of people would have to move, but the next generation of people would really appreciate what we did; at least the conservative generation.

Heck, to never have to put up with liberals again, I would move. And if we voted to have my state in the conservative side and the liberals had to move, my property value would double overnight.

Why? Put a border wall along Washington, Oregon and California and back along the border with Mexico in the west and another along the western border of Pennsylvania, Maryland, and the small section of DC in the east.

That would isolate the vast majority of libs to those areas. We can build a new US capitol in Kansas City or someplace similar.

Yeah, but the biggest problem would be trying to keep liberals out of our states. In no time at all, they'd be jumping those walls and that would require more police. Of course, since our crime would diminish, maybe all those laid off cops can do the job.

Most of the population and wealth would be in the 'liberal' areas. I'd guess you'd be left with a 3rd world country, mostly owned by the liberals.