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When Republicans in Congress passed a big, fat tax break bill in December, they insisted it meant American workers would be singing “Happy Days Are Here Again” all the way to the bank.
The payoff from the tax cut would be raises totaling $4,000 to $9,000, the President’s Council of Economic Advisors assured workers.
But something bad happened to workers on their way to the repository. They never got that money.
In fact, their real wages declined because of higher inflation. At the same time, the amount workers had to pay in interest on loans for cars and credit cards increased. And, to top it off, Republicans threatened to make workers pay for the tax break with cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
Where’s that $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers?
could it be that the professor is a dumbass who lets politics cloud his judgement?
No, for two reasons. First, he was a professor at the Wharton school of economics. Second, it was 50 years ago and long before Donald ever got involved in politics. I realize that may be a difficult concept for you to understand, seeing as you went to the Morons school of physics.
Holy shit you are dumb.
I mean that he made up his opinion only now. Trump was probably the most brilliant of the class, but that changed when he found all the media attention he could get by making shit up.
I'm sorry, Ray, what's so funny?My wife and I got ours.When Republicans in Congress passed a big, fat tax break bill in December, they insisted it meant American workers would be singing “Happy Days Are Here Again” all the way to the bank.
The payoff from the tax cut would be raises totaling $4,000 to $9,000, the President’s Council of Economic Advisors assured workers.
But something bad happened to workers on their way to the repository. They never got that money.
In fact, their real wages declined because of higher inflation. At the same time, the amount workers had to pay in interest on loans for cars and credit cards increased. And, to top it off, Republicans threatened to make workers pay for the tax break with cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
Where’s that $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers?
Where's my 8 years of $2500/year Obamacare savings?
I saved a lot more than 2500 a year because of Obamacare.
I have employer provided insurance. All Obamacare did was make it much better.
I no longer had to pay for a colonoscopy which was 5 grand every 5 years. The only way my insurance would previously cover it was if there was a problem or they found polyps in the images. If it was preventative like for my ex who's dad had colon cancer and it's hereditary. He had to have regular colonoscopies because of that but the insurance company didn't pay for it because there were no symptoms and no polys were found.
I no longer had to pay a portion of the MRI mammogram I have to have once a year which saves me a lot of money.
I no longer have a co pay on any mammogram. Which saves me money.
I no longer have to pay for any preventative health care services such as flu shots, mammogram, colonoscopy and many other health care services I used to have to pay for.
Which has added up to much more than 2500 dollars a year.
My premiums didn't increase in the Obama years either. My premium increased for the first time since the bush boy years this year. It always seems to increase in republican presidential years but stays stable in democratic presidential years.
Yes, you saved a lot of money; money paid by other people. That's how liberalism/ socialism works.
Last year Medicare Trust fund was solvent through 2029, This year it's projected broken by 2026. Trump has racked up 3 more years worth of debt in 1 year!!!
Actually, he was dead when that fake news story was first published.Trump, a Wharton School of economics alumnus, has implemented very sound economic policy.Eight years of bad economics policy under Obama does not justify continued bad economics under Trump. It would be as good as saying it's okay to beat your wife because the guy before you beat her too.
Professor Kelly said about trump....."“Donald Trump was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had.”
Former Wharton Professor: 'Trump Was the Dumbest G*ddamn Student I Ever Had'
If he was Trump's professor, he would have to be well into his 90s and probably senile.
When Republicans in Congress passed a big, fat tax break bill in December, they insisted it meant American workers would be singing “Happy Days Are Here Again” all the way to the bank.
The payoff from the tax cut would be raises totaling $4,000 to $9,000, the President’s Council of Economic Advisors assured workers.
But something bad happened to workers on their way to the repository. They never got that money.
In fact, their real wages declined because of higher inflation. At the same time, the amount workers had to pay in interest on loans for cars and credit cards increased. And, to top it off, Republicans threatened to make workers pay for the tax break with cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
Where’s that $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers?
Where did they ever promise that you idiot? The average person got between 1000 and 3000 dollars. And Nancy Pelosi thought Obama's $40 payroll rebate was a big deal. But you have to MAKE the money to get the bigger refunds. Sorry you never will see more than about $85 with your kind of earning potential, but that is still TWICE what Obama got you.
Where's my 8 years of $2500/year Obamacare savings?
I saved a lot more than 2500 a year because of Obamacare.
I have employer provided insurance. All Obamacare did was make it much better.
I no longer had to pay for a colonoscopy which was 5 grand every 5 years. The only way my insurance would previously cover it was if there was a problem or they found polyps in the images. If it was preventative like for my ex who's dad had colon cancer and it's hereditary. He had to have regular colonoscopies because of that but the insurance company didn't pay for it because there were no symptoms and no polys were found.
I no longer had to pay a portion of the MRI mammogram I have to have once a year which saves me a lot of money.
I no longer have a co pay on any mammogram. Which saves me money.
I no longer have to pay for any preventative health care services such as flu shots, mammogram, colonoscopy and many other health care services I used to have to pay for.
Which has added up to much more than 2500 dollars a year.
My premiums didn't increase in the Obama years either. My premium increased for the first time since the bush boy years this year. It always seems to increase in republican presidential years but stays stable in democratic presidential years.
Yes, you saved a lot of money; money paid by other people. That's how liberalism/ socialism works.
I have private employer provided self insurance. That means the employer provides the money to pay the medical bills through a trust fund which is tax deductible for the employer.
That means what I don't pay, the employer pays. The employer is Boeing so they can afford to pay for all their employee's health care needs.
Blue Cross manages it but all the money besides my premiums and deductibles is paid by Boeing.
Private insurance through an employer isn't socialism. If it was then every person who has employer provided whether it's self insurance or not is on socialism. Private insurance that's not through an employer isn't socialism. That includes car insurance, home insurance, life insurance, business insurance, health insurance etc. So if you pay for any of those insurance plans according to you, you're a socialist using socialism.
Socialism is an economic system of public ownership. Not private. Private ownership is capitalism.
You seriously need to read an economics book.
Trump, a Wharton School of economics alumnus, has implemented very sound economic policy.Eight years of bad economics policy under Obama does not justify continued bad economics under Trump. It would be as good as saying it's okay to beat your wife because the guy before you beat her too.
Professor Kelly said about trump....."“Donald Trump was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had.”
Former Wharton Professor: 'Trump Was the Dumbest G*ddamn Student I Ever Had'
When Republicans in Congress passed a big, fat tax break bill in December, they insisted it meant American workers would be singing “Happy Days Are Here Again” all the way to the bank.
The payoff from the tax cut would be raises totaling $4,000 to $9,000, the President’s Council of Economic Advisors assured workers.
But something bad happened to workers on their way to the repository. They never got that money.
In fact, their real wages declined because of higher inflation. At the same time, the amount workers had to pay in interest on loans for cars and credit cards increased. And, to top it off, Republicans threatened to make workers pay for the tax break with cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
Where’s that $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers?
Where did they ever promise that you idiot? The average person got between 1000 and 3000 dollars. And Nancy Pelosi thought Obama's $40 payroll rebate was a big deal. But you have to MAKE the money to get the bigger refunds. Sorry you never will see more than about $85 with your kind of earning potential, but that is still TWICE what Obama got you.
"The average person got between 1000 and 3000 dollars." LOL! Where did you get that stat from?
Can't argue against that. I just wanted to highlight that the right caring about the debt is a myth. I guess nowadays it is more a disagreement about where that debt money goes.This thread shows that all the whining about the debt by "fiscal conservatives" is fake. They only care about tax cuts, national debt be damned.
Neither Party cares about the Debt. The Swamp Creatures who run both Parties, are addicted to spending other peoples' money. It is what it is.
I don't know where you get your data....but I whine about debt all the time.
Nobody seems to really care.
S.S. and Medicare are sucking up more and more.
Our kids are totally screwed.
But we worry about to much other crap.
Can't argue against that. I just wanted to highlight that the right caring about the debt is a myth. I guess nowadays it is more a disagreement about where that debt money goes.This thread shows that all the whining about the debt by "fiscal conservatives" is fake. They only care about tax cuts, national debt be damned.
Neither Party cares about the Debt. The Swamp Creatures who run both Parties, are addicted to spending other peoples' money. It is what it is.
I don't know where you get your data....but I whine about debt all the time.
Nobody seems to really care.
S.S. and Medicare are sucking up more and more.
Our kids are totally screwed.
But we worry about to much other crap.
Excuse me, but SS and Medicare are paid into and are sucking nothing out of the government. I get SS and guess what? Even it is taxed. I worked from age 19 until I retired and paid into SS and Medicare every one of those years. SS has a surplus and would have even more if the GOP didn't rob from it to fund the Iraq war. And they never paid it back.
Can't argue against that. I just wanted to highlight that the right caring about the debt is a myth. I guess nowadays it is more a disagreement about where that debt money goes.This thread shows that all the whining about the debt by "fiscal conservatives" is fake. They only care about tax cuts, national debt be damned.
Neither Party cares about the Debt. The Swamp Creatures who run both Parties, are addicted to spending other peoples' money. It is what it is.
I don't know where you get your data....but I whine about debt all the time.
Nobody seems to really care.
S.S. and Medicare are sucking up more and more.
Our kids are totally screwed.
But we worry about to much other crap.
Excuse me, but SS and Medicare are paid into and are sucking nothing out of the government. I get SS and guess what? Even it is taxed. I worked from age 19 until I retired and paid into SS and Medicare every one of those years. SS has a surplus and would have even more if the GOP didn't rob from it to fund the Iraq war. And they never paid it back.
More distortion. They said that *some* workers would see their net pay rise "by as much as" $4,000. And, as a matter of fact, workers in the top half of the third bracket and in the fourth bracket *have* seen their take-home pay rise by $4,000 (and even by close to $5,000 for those in the fourth bracket), thanks to the Trump tax cuts.
I'm in the lower half of the third bracket, and my take-home pay has gone up by $220 per month/$2,640 per year, thanks to the Trump tax cuts.
Can't argue against that. I just wanted to highlight that the right caring about the debt is a myth. I guess nowadays it is more a disagreement about where that debt money goes.This thread shows that all the whining about the debt by "fiscal conservatives" is fake. They only care about tax cuts, national debt be damned.
Neither Party cares about the Debt. The Swamp Creatures who run both Parties, are addicted to spending other peoples' money. It is what it is.
I don't know where you get your data....but I whine about debt all the time.
Nobody seems to really care.
S.S. and Medicare are sucking up more and more.
Our kids are totally screwed.
But we worry about to much other crap.
Excuse me, but SS and Medicare are paid into and are sucking nothing out of the government. I get SS and guess what? Even it is taxed. I worked from age 19 until I retired and paid into SS and Medicare every one of those years. SS has a surplus and would have even more if the GOP didn't rob from it to fund the Iraq war. And they never paid it back.
Where's my 8 years of $2500/year Obamacare savings?
I saved a lot more than 2500 a year because of Obamacare.
I have employer provided insurance. All Obamacare did was make it much better.
I no longer had to pay for a colonoscopy which was 5 grand every 5 years. The only way my insurance would previously cover it was if there was a problem or they found polyps in the images. If it was preventative like for my ex who's dad had colon cancer and it's hereditary. He had to have regular colonoscopies because of that but the insurance company didn't pay for it because there were no symptoms and no polys were found.
I no longer had to pay a portion of the MRI mammogram I have to have once a year which saves me a lot of money.
I no longer have a co pay on any mammogram. Which saves me money.
I no longer have to pay for any preventative health care services such as flu shots, mammogram, colonoscopy and many other health care services I used to have to pay for.
Which has added up to much more than 2500 dollars a year.
My premiums didn't increase in the Obama years either. My premium increased for the first time since the bush boy years this year. It always seems to increase in republican presidential years but stays stable in democratic presidential years.
Yes, you saved a lot of money; money paid by other people. That's how liberalism/ socialism works.
I have private employer provided self insurance. That means the employer provides the money to pay the medical bills through a trust fund which is tax deductible for the employer.
That means what I don't pay, the employer pays. The employer is Boeing so they can afford to pay for all their employee's health care needs.
Blue Cross manages it but all the money besides my premiums and deductibles is paid by Boeing.
Private insurance through an employer isn't socialism. If it was then every person who has employer provided whether it's self insurance or not is on socialism. Private insurance that's not through an employer isn't socialism. That includes car insurance, home insurance, life insurance, business insurance, health insurance etc. So if you pay for any of those insurance plans according to you, you're a socialist using socialism.
Socialism is an economic system of public ownership. Not private. Private ownership is capitalism.
You seriously need to read an economics book.
By what you wrote I was under the impression you were on Commie Care--not private healthcare.
Yep, I didn't get a $4000 dollar raise. I got a $5000 raise.When Republicans in Congress passed a big, fat tax break bill in December, they insisted it meant American workers would be singing “Happy Days Are Here Again” all the way to the bank.
The payoff from the tax cut would be raises totaling $4,000 to $9,000, the President’s Council of Economic Advisors assured workers.
But something bad happened to workers on their way to the repository. They never got that money.
In fact, their real wages declined because of higher inflation. At the same time, the amount workers had to pay in interest on loans for cars and credit cards increased. And, to top it off, Republicans threatened to make workers pay for the tax break with cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
Where’s that $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers?
dean you spelled fuck wrong...was mom looking over your shoulder again?....I did good under Obama. You did too.Where's my 8 years of $2500/year Obamacare savings?
But under Trump we all get fuked.
Where's my 8 years of $2500/year Obamacare savings?
I saved a lot more than 2500 a year because of Obamacare.
I have employer provided insurance. All Obamacare did was make it much better.
I no longer had to pay for a colonoscopy which was 5 grand every 5 years. The only way my insurance would previously cover it was if there was a problem or they found polyps in the images. If it was preventative like for my ex who's dad had colon cancer and it's hereditary. He had to have regular colonoscopies because of that but the insurance company didn't pay for it because there were no symptoms and no polys were found.
I no longer had to pay a portion of the MRI mammogram I have to have once a year which saves me a lot of money.
I no longer have a co pay on any mammogram. Which saves me money.
I no longer have to pay for any preventative health care services such as flu shots, mammogram, colonoscopy and many other health care services I used to have to pay for.
Which has added up to much more than 2500 dollars a year.
My premiums didn't increase in the Obama years either. My premium increased for the first time since the bush boy years this year. It always seems to increase in republican presidential years but stays stable in democratic presidential years.
Yes, you saved a lot of money; money paid by other people. That's how liberalism/ socialism works.
I have private employer provided self insurance. That means the employer provides the money to pay the medical bills through a trust fund which is tax deductible for the employer.
That means what I don't pay, the employer pays. The employer is Boeing so they can afford to pay for all their employee's health care needs.
Blue Cross manages it but all the money besides my premiums and deductibles is paid by Boeing.
Private insurance through an employer isn't socialism. If it was then every person who has employer provided whether it's self insurance or not is on socialism. Private insurance that's not through an employer isn't socialism. That includes car insurance, home insurance, life insurance, business insurance, health insurance etc. So if you pay for any of those insurance plans according to you, you're a socialist using socialism.
Socialism is an economic system of public ownership. Not private. Private ownership is capitalism.
You seriously need to read an economics book.
By what you wrote I was under the impression you were on Commie Care--not private healthcare.
I don't know how you could have gotten that idea.
My second sentence says I have private employer provided insurance. I don't know how you can mistake that for Obamacare.
Obamacare didn't just affect those policies on the exchanges. It affected all insurance. It requires a minimum coverage standards to all insurance.
Like I said in the post you replied to, all Obamacare did was make my existing employer provided insurance much better.
