While Biden stands by uselessly, Chinese military surrounds Taiwan after devastating earthquake

[Mac-7]

Where could they possible have gotten such ideas?

Maybe from the same examples that Imperial Japan used before and during WWII

It wasnt right when the euro’s did it and its not ok for china to do it now

 

[JoeB131]

Communist china’s territorial ambitions go far beyond Taiwan

Peking wants the entire South China Sea under its control

And with it political, economic and military dominance over all of Southeast Asia and Japan plus Austrailia

Wow, China wants some crappy Island in a sea that is named for it, that means they WANT TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!!

This is the kind of hysterics that would be laughable if it couldn't get us into WWIII.

 

[surada]

Now you are hiding behind the big orange boogyman that libs love to hate

Its not difficult to define marxism

“From each according to their ability, to each according to need”

Lol. The US has been arming Taiwan to the teeth since last Oct.

 

[Mac-7]

That was the early Christian community. Marx just borrowed the term. Marxism, a European intellectual excess, has some interesting ideas, but is not a workable socio-political system. Communal living, such as monasteries or families, work quite well and also long term.

What works for the rich man who sells all that he owns and gives it to the poor does not work when oppressive central government dictatorships try it

 

[Mac-7]

Wow, China wants some crappy Island in a sea that is named for it, that means they WANT TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!!

This is the kind of hysterics that would be laughable if it couldn't get us into WWIII.

Yes, communist china wants Taiwan very badly

In part for damaged chinese ego, but also because Taiwan has forgotten more about computer chip manufacturing than the communists will ever know

 

[there4eyeM]

What works for the rich man who sells all that he owns and gives it to the poor does not work when oppressive central government dictatorships try it

The difference is in the freedom of the individual, true. The choice to give everything to one's group (such as a religious group or family) and share with love and enthusiasm has nothing to do with totalitarians forcing their ideas of "sharing" on all below them.

 

[Mac-7]

Lol. The US has been arming Taiwan to the teeth since last Oct.

Even before that

but as the threat of communist invasion grows so does our aid to Taiwan

 

[Mac-7]

The difference is in the freedom of the individual, true. The choice to give everything to one's group (such as a religious group or family) and share with love and enthusiasm has nothing to do with totalitarians forcing their ideas of "sharing" on all below them.

I think we basically agree

 

[JoeB131]

Yes, communist china wants Taiwan very badly

It's part of their historic territory, they have every reason to want it back.

In part for damaged chinese ego, but also because Taiwan has forgotten more about computer chip manufacturing than the communists will ever know

Again, this is the problem with you wingnuts and China.

China's biggest concern is not its "ego" but the fact that for a century, outside powers humiliated China, carved out spheres of influence, and flooded the country with drugs, capping off with an outright invasion by Japan.

We see Tibet, Hong Kong, Taiwan, the Uighurs in terms of "Democracy" and "Human rights". They see them as issues of national sovereignty.

 

[Mac-7]

It's part of their historic territory, they have every reason to want it back.

Again, this is the problem with you wingnuts and China.

China's biggest concern is not its "ego" but the fact that for a century, outside powers humiliated China, carved out spheres of influence, and flooded the country with drugs, capping off with an outright invasion by Japan.

We see Tibet, Hong Kong, Taiwan, the Uighurs in terms of "Democracy" and "Human rights". They see them as issues of national sovereignty.

We see Tibet, Hong Kong, Taiwan, the Uighurs in terms of "Democracy" and "Human rights". They see them as issues of national sovereignty.

I think you are getting your “we’s and they’s” mixed up

You sound sound very chinese with your excuses for communist territorial aggression first in Tibet, and now Taiwan and the entire South China Sea

 

[JoeB131]

We see Tibet, Hong Kong, Taiwan, the Uighurs in terms of "Democracy" and "Human rights". They see them as issues of national sovereignty.

I think you are getting your “we’s and they’s” mixed up

You sound sound very chinese with your excuses for communist territorial aggression first in Tibet, and now Taiwan and the entire South China Sea

China hasn't spent the last two decades invading other countries on the other side of the planet.

That would be us.

I know your brain is too tiny to see other people's perspectives.

Tibet was never an independent country. China just asserted their sovereignty.

They've been very restrained on Taiwan.

 

[Mac-7]

China hasn't spent the last two decades invading other countries on the other side of the planet.

That would be us.

Always under UN approval and never for territorial gain

Unlike china, we stopped doing that in the 19th Century

Tibet never willingly belonged to china

It has its own culture, language, religion and preferred leaders who are now in exile

The communists have no valid claim on those people and only hold their country with plenty of AK-47’s

 

[JoeB131]

Always under UN approval and never for territorial gain

That makes it okay, then? As much as you whine about "preferred leaders" below, the Taliban were the preferred leaders of Afghanistan, but we still invaded and tried to impose a government beholden to us.

Until Trump cravenly surrendered at Doha, that is.

Unlike china, we stopped doing that in the 19th Century

China has actually LOST territory since the 19th century.

Tibet never willingly belonged to china

Define willingly? It was a tributary state of the Qing, Ming and Yuan Dynasties.

The only time it gained "independence" was during the Warlord Era that preceded WWII. And most of the world didn't recognize it at the time.

It has its own culture, language, religion and preferred leaders who are now in exile

Actually, the "preferred" leaders were a theocracy who routinely tortured, blinded and enslaved the population. Yeah, the Dalai Llama hangs out with the Hollywood set now, but he was hardly a nice person. (Or, more specifically, his regime wasn't; he was a teen when Beijing reasserted its authority.)

China is a land of MANY cultures.

The communists have no valid claim on those people and only hold their country with plenty of AK-47’s

Well, that and international law.

 

[Mac-7]

That makes it okay, then? As much as you whine about "preferred leaders" below, the Taliban were the preferred leaders of Afghanistan, but we still invaded and tried to impose a government beholden to us.

You are equating the Taliban to the Dali Lama?

Murderous throwbacks to a pacifist?

Thats laughable

 

[Mac-7]

The only time it gained "independence" was during the Warlord Era that preceded WWII. And most of the world didn't recognize it at the time.

The only way the communists rule Tibet is with lots of wolf warriors

I guess we could argue that Manchuria belongs to Japan since it was once under their control

 

[Mac-7]

Actually, the "preferred" leaders were a theocracy who routinely tortured, blinded and enslaved the population

Communist china has no room to accuse anyone of human rights abuse

In your preferred country they harvest organs of political prisoners and sell them to the highest bidder

 

[Moonglow]

Biden's weakness is not only a disaster for Ukraine and Israel, but for Taiwan, too.

The forces of evil are marching unimpeded around the world, while the dementia patient licks his ice cream cone and fondles children.

Biden and Xi Hold First Call Since 2022, China Promptly Deploys Ships and Warplanes Around Taiwan

redstate.com

Biden and Xi held their first phone since July 2020 on Monday. Within hours, dozens of Chinese warplanes and multiple naval vessels were reported around Taiwan, the largest coordinated display (implied threat) of 2024. At least 30 planes and nine ships were detected in Taiwan’s air defense identification zone (ADIZ) by the country's Ministry of National Defense (MND).

The MND announced via social media:


Xi's message to Biden? How to say this in a publishable manner...

“Pound sand, Joe."

Here's more on what appears to have been an ineffectual call (for Biden) between the two leaders:

You defeatist are laughable

 

[Moonglow]

Suuuuuuuuure he has.

Where do you come up with this nonsense? Oh, thjat's right, kook conspiracy blogs.

And plain old fashioned outright lying.

 

[ThirdTerm]

"30 PLA aircraft and 9 PLAN vessels operating around Taiwan were detected up until 6 a.m. (UTC+8) today. 20 of the aircraft entered Taiwan’s northern, middle line, and SW ADIZ. [Republic of China Armed Forces] have monitored the situation and employed appropriate force to respond.

An air defense identification zone (ADIZ) extends beyond a country's territory to give the country more time to respond to possibly hostile aircraft. Taiwan's ADIZ covers a vast area, including China's eastern coastal regions.

https://www.business-standard.com/world-news/taiwan-detects-30-chinese-military-aircraft-9-navy-vessels-around-nation-124040300174_1.html

 

[JoeB131]

You are equating the Taliban to the Dali Lama?

Murderous throwbacks to a pacifist?

Thats laughable

Here's the difference. The Afghan people were willing to fight for the Taliban. First against the Russians, and then against the Americans.

The Tibetan People weren't so keen on their religious fanatics. The PLA knocked over the Tibetan Army without much of a fight and haven't heard a peep out of them since.

The only way the communists rule Tibet is with lots of wolf warriors

I guess we could argue that Manchuria belongs to Japan since it was once under their control

But it wouldn't be a GOOD argument. Even the Japanese realized they needed Puyi on the Manchurian throne to give the whole thing an air of legitimacy.

In fact, in every country the Japanese invaded, they tried to set up local governments of collaborators.

Tibet, on the other hand, is an autonomous region within the People's Republic of China.

Communist china has no room to accuse anyone of human rights abuse

In your preferred country they harvest organs of political prisoners and sell them to the highest bidder

And so? (Actually, the only people who get their organs harvested are actual criminals, but that's another issue.)

The point was, before he was up Richard Gere's ass like a gerbil, the Dalai Lama ran one of the most oppressive theocratic regimes in the world.

Tibet under Dalai Lama 'oppressive'

Recent uprisings in Tibet have raised international attention due to the spotlight on the Beijing Olympics. However, the Tibetan Independence Movement is nothing new.

www.redandblack.com

Tibet was a theocratic state based on feudalism prior to Chinese governance, and a social caste system existed in which people were born into serfdom. These people then were taught the Buddhist notion of karma and reincarnation - that they were suffering from the sins of the past life.

However, there is a way out of the caste system: One-third of the boys in Tibet forcibly are taken by the monastery and can live a life of harmony - along with a chance for molestation and rape, as cited in the autobiography of Tashi Tsering, a Tibetan nationalist.

The lamas and the feudal landlords who owned the lands of Tibet do not represent the majority of the population, which was illiterate and poor, according to www.asianinfo.org.

The Drepung Monastery was one of the biggest land owners in the world, and it lent money to the poor peasants at a 20 to 50 percent interest rate.

In theocratic feudal Tibet, torturing methods such as eye gouging and amputation were common as punishments for thieves and runaway slaves. Quite contrary to the peaceful teachings of Buddhism, isn't it?

Most of us in the West have a Shangri-La-esque view of the old Tibet, but that is hardly the case. Old Tibet was not a state based on peace and harmony but of oppression and torture.