Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Inducement of Violence
⁜→ et al,

BLUF: If there is one thing that both sides of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict have in common it is → that neither will not capitulate (so far).


(COMMENT)

You will notice that the one current situation that theArab Palestinians of the West Bank, Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip all have in common is that the have never offered up a "viable solution." The Arab Palestinians throw up roadblocks to Negotiations between the two opponents.

A political solution to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict is unfathomable by any multidimensional view. The political solution is nearly impossible to define, it is difficult to interpret and understand, and it is ghostlike. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict has eluded a solution because it mirrors the thought that a solution can exist (The solution to problem is to prove that all political differences will eventually converge). Politically, this means that there can be (at some point) a meeting of the minds (a convergence if the Israeli Position and Palestinian Position. And that is the paradox. It cannot be a case wherein Israel is encompassed into the Greater Palestinian State, or that the Palestinians pose a threat to the peaceful existence of the Israelis. In point of fact, there will be not solution unless one side equals the other side. And that is like saying a "square-circle." It is impossible.



(COMMENT)

Politically speaking, this means that there will be no case where the Arab Palestinians (from where-ever) present a threat to the citizenry of Israel, the territorial integrity, and sovereignty of Israel without a continuation of the conflict.





(COMMENT)

And this is the scope and nature of the condition that must be modified. This political condition will not converge on the peace and security if Israel or the Jewish National Home.

Most Respectfully,
R

You will notice that the one current situation that theArab Palestinians of the West Bank, Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip all have in common is that the have never offered up a "viable solution."

Sure they have. International law and UN resolutions. Two things Israel hates.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestinians: Are you the descendants of the Canaanites?​

 

[Hollie]

 

[Sixties Fan]

“The [PA] Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Expatriates held the Israeli government led by [Israeli Prime Minister] Naftali Bennett fully and directly responsible for the invasions of the Al-Aqsa Mosque in general, the continuation of invasions during the blessed month of Ramadan, and the explosion that they will cause in the situation in the occupied Palestinian territories.
In a statement yesterday [March 26, 2022], the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said that the malicious intentions behind the ‘storm’ that the occupation is raising and advancing regarding the blessed month of Ramadan… are becoming clearer by the day.”
[Official PA daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, March 27, 2022]

For those unfamiliar with the site, it is important to stress, that the “Al-Aqsa Mosque,” - delineated in red in the image below - is only one relatively small part of the Temple Mount - delineated in green. Moreover, while Jews are permitted to enter the Temple Mount, they are permitted to do so only for limited hours of the day, are only allowed to walk around the periphery of the site and are strictly prohibited from entering the mosque itself. Ignoring this inconvenient reality, in order to attack Israel and vilify all Jews entering the holy site, the PA systematically refers to the entire Temple Mount as the “Al-Aqsa Mosque.”

One of the PA’s most senior Islamic authorities, Mahmoud Al-Habbash, who serves as the Supreme Shari’ah Judge of Palestine and PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas’ Advisor on Religious Affairs and Islamic Relations also tried to inflame tensions and warned that the imaginary Israeli plan to “break into the blessed Al-Aqsa Mosque” would have consequences not only for Israel but “for the world.” Clarifying that his objection to Jews exercising their right to visit Judaism’s holiest site is not limited to the month of Ramadan alone, but rather a blanket PA demand, Al-Habbash added that these visits are “unacceptable at any time”:

(full article online )

PA incitement before Ramadan: Claims Israel plans âto break inâ to the Al-Aqsa Mosque and deliberately cause an âexplosionâ during the Muslim holiday | PMW Analysis

Abbas’ Advisor and Supreme Shari’ah Judge: Israel “deliberately creates crises, plans to break into the blessed Al-Aqsa Mosque”

palwatch.org

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Again No Viable Solution
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Again, that will no create a solution. There is NO Law or Binding Resolution that supports your claim.

Sure they have. International law and UN resolutions. Two things Israel hates.

(COMMENT)
.
.Here again, you do not actually say anything.

If the Treaty Boundaries establish by the Israeli-Jordanian Treaty, or the Israeli-Egyptian Treaty were followed, Israel would have sovereign control over the West Bank, Jerusalem, and Gaza. That is the International Law. Remember, the Arab Palestinians did not form a (and I say this tongue and cheek) working government until December 2012. In the last decade, Arab Palestinian Leadership has become more dysfunctional not less. Look at all the Donor Contributions made.

The Arab Palestinians have not offered any viable solutions that creates anything better than they have now. If the Israelis bow to the Demands of the Arab Palestinians, the conflict will expand. And the Israelis will just claim the territories by the Right-of-Self-Determination again.
.
No! The Arab Palestinians have contributed absolutely nothing (I say again → "absolutely nothing") to further the cause of peace in the regions of the Gaza Strip, West Bank, and Jerusalem.
.

Most Respectfully,
R
Exhibit 1: Excerpt from UN Under-Secretary-General for Legal Affairs, Memo December 2012

Exhibit 2: Excerpt from UN Under-Secretary-General for Legal Affairs, Memo December 2012

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Again No Viable Solution
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Again, that will no create a solution. There is NO Law or Binding Resolution that supports your claim.


(COMMENT)
.
.Here again, you do not actually say anything.

If the Treaty Boundaries establish by the Israeli-Jordanian Treaty, or the Israeli-Egyptian Treaty were followed, Israel would have sovereign control over the West Bank, Jerusalem, and Gaza. That is the International Law. Remember, the Arab Palestinians did not form a (and I say this tongue and cheek) working government until December 2012. In the last decade, Arab Palestinian Leadership has become more dysfunctional not less. Look at all the Donor Contributions made.

The Arab Palestinians have not offered any viable solutions that creates anything better than they have now. If the Israelis bow to the Demands of the Arab Palestinians, the conflict will expand. And the Israelis will just claim the territories by the Right-of-Self-Determination again.
.
No! The Arab Palestinians have contributed absolutely nothing (I say again → "absolutely nothing") to further the cause of peace in the regions of the Gaza Strip, West Bank, and Jerusalem.
.

Most Respectfully,
R
Exhibit 1: Excerpt from UN Under-Secretary-General for Legal Affairs, Memo December 2012

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Exhibit 2: Excerpt from UN Under-Secretary-General for Legal Affairs, Memo December 2012
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If the Treaty Boundaries establish by the Israeli-Jordanian Treaty, or the Israeli-Egyptian Treaty were followed, Israel would have sovereign control over the West Bank, Jerusalem, and Gaza.

I have offered my legal objection to these treaties, but you have never responded.

 

[Sixties Fan]

I have offered my legal objection to these treaties, but you have never responded.

Your legal objections are invalid. They have no head, feet, any part of a body to be taken seriously.

You have zero business with any of these treaties. You are not a citizen of any of those countries, therefore you have zero say as to what the Egyptians, the Jordanians, and now every other country decides to sign with Israel.

Are you an International law Lawyer? No

Stop playing at being one, and start caring for the poor Arabs who have been stuck with the disgusting leaders they have both with Hamas and the PA.

There is where one needs Accords and Treaties to put an end to the Money cow both parties have been enjoying since ......when exactly?

How much money few of the clans in power continue to get for themselves somehow from Qatar, the EU and others?

Pay for slay.
Pay to be educated that Jews have no rights and that it is Islamic land, not Jewish land, etc.

Mr. Lawyer (ha), go study International law and stop bothering us with your endless ignorance born from your Christian learned hatred of Jews.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Your legal objections are invalid. They have no head, feet, any part of a body to be taken seriously.

You have zero business with any of these treaties. You are not a citizen of any of those countries, therefore you have zero say as to what the Egyptians, the Jordanians, and now every other country decides to sign with Israel.

Are you an International law Lawyer? No

Stop playing at being one, and start caring for the poor Arabs who have been stuck with the disgusting leaders they have both with Hamas and the PA.

There is where one needs Accords and Treaties to put an end to the Money cow both parties have been enjoying since ......when exactly?

How much money few of the clans in power continue to get for themselves somehow from Qatar, the EU and others?

Pay for slay.
Pay to be educated that Jews have no rights and that it is Islamic land, not Jewish land, etc.

Mr. Lawyer (ha), go study International law and stop bothering us with your endless ignorance born from your Christian learned hatred of Jews.

Nice rant.

Nothing that relates to my post though.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Nice rant.

Nothing that relates to my post though.

You just like to play at it having nothing to do with your posts. That is what you do. These endless games at knowing things you do not know about.

You want what you want: Israel's destruction.

All you are seeing is fewer and fewer Arabs and Muslims wanting to destroy Israel.

You know nothing about any kind of law, especially the kind between countries.

Ciao

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Again No Viable Solution
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: You can challenge the official record all you want.

◈ Israel - Jordan Peace Treaty (1994) is entered into the UN Official Record Volume 2042 • I- 35325​

◈ Israeli-Egyptian Peace Treaty (1974) Journal No 17813​

I have offered my legal objection to these treaties, but you have never responded.

(COMMENT)

At the time these Treaties were enacted, the International Community celebrated them. What the Hostile Arab-Palestinian (HoAP) is doing is hold "peace" hostage with a ransom of being to their demands.

The HoAP is doing is is a classical action found in the 1938

Convention for the Prevention and Punishment of Terrorism. See: Library of Congress​

(IMO): What the HoAP is doing is committing Criminal Acts directed against the State of Israel with the intention of → or calculated to → cause death or serious bodily injury to the civilian population, or to any other person not taking an active part in the hostilities, the purpose of such act, by its nature or context, is to intimidate a population and to compel a government or an international organization to do (or to abstain from doing) some act that furthers the criminal objective.

Responses have been written on this subject many times over the last decade. Today, the current laws that are broken most often by the HoAP have to do with Customary and International Humanitarian Law being violated:

◈ Rule #11​

◈ Rules #23 and #24​

◈ Rule #97​

◈ The HoAP who commit an offence which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power,​

◈ The HoAP who seriously damage the property of the occupying forces or administration or the installations used by them,​

◈ The HoAP who are guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power,​

◈ The HoAP who commit intentional offense which have caused the death of one or more persons,​

◈ Any propaganda for war shall be prohibited by law.​

◈ Any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law.​

◈ The unlawful and intentional use of explosives and other lethal devices in, into, or against various defined public places with intent to kill or cause serious bodily injury, or with intent to cause extensive destruction of the public place.​

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Again No Viable Solution
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: You can challenge the official record all you want.

◈ Israel - Jordan Peace Treaty (1994) is entered into the UN Official Record Volume 2042 • I- 35325​

◈ Israeli-Egyptian Peace Treaty (1974) Journal No 17813​

View attachment 624694

(COMMENT)

At the time these Treaties were enacted, the International Community celebrated them. What the Hostile Arab-Palestinian (HoAP) is doing is hold "peace" hostage with a ransom of being to their demands.

The HoAP is doing is is a classical action found in the 1938

Convention for the Prevention and Punishment of Terrorism. See: Library of Congress​

(IMO): What the HoAP is doing is committing Criminal Acts directed against the State of Israel with the intention of → or calculated to → cause death or serious bodily injury to the civilian population, or to any other person not taking an active part in the hostilities, the purpose of such act, by its nature or context, is to intimidate a population and to compel a government or an international organization to do (or to abstain from doing) some act that furthers the criminal objective.

Responses have been written on this subject many times over the last decade. Today, the current laws that are broken most often by the HoAP have to do with Customary and International Humanitarian Law being violated:

◈ Rule #11​

◈ Rules #23 and #24​

◈ Rule #97​

◈ The HoAP who commit an offence which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power,​

◈ The HoAP who seriously damage the property of the occupying forces or administration or the installations used by them,​

◈ The HoAP who are guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power,​

◈ The HoAP who commit intentional offense which have caused the death of one or more persons,​

◈ Any propaganda for war shall be prohibited by law.​

◈ Any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law.​

◈ The unlawful and intentional use of explosives and other lethal devices in, into, or against various defined public places with intent to kill or cause serious bodily injury, or with intent to cause extensive destruction of the public place.​

Most Respectfully,
R

WOW, super duck.

 

[P F Tinmore]

You just like to play at it having nothing to do with your posts. That is what you do. These endless games at knowing things you do not know about.

You want what you want: Israel's destruction.

All you are seeing is fewer and fewer Arabs and Muslims wanting to destroy Israel.

You know nothing about any kind of law, especially the kind between countries.

Ciao

All that blabber and you don't know what law I am talking about.

 

[Sixties Fan]

All that blabber and you don't know what law I am talking about.

Get over yourself.

You want a law which will say that the Jews do not have any legal right to the mandate for Palestine, any amount of sand of it.

That law does not exist.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Get over yourself.

You want a law which will say that the Jews do not have any legal right to the mandate for Palestine, any amount of sand of it.

That law does not exist.

The Mandate was forbidden from making land transfers.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Janna Jihad - Write for Rights 2021​

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Mandate was forbidden from making land transfers.

What did the other 3 Mandates say?

And how come 78% of the Mandate for Palestine was Transferred to the Hashemite Arabs of Arabia?

 

[Hollie]

I have offered my legal objection to these treaties, but you have never responded.

YouTube videos are not legal objections.

 

[Hollie]

The Mandate was forbidden from making land transfers.

There were no land transfers by the Mandate. Any other irrelevancies you would like to offer... aside from the usual ones?

 

[Hollie]

It seems the Israelis are looking to be proactive in terms of dealing with the islamist gee-had.

Israeli Forces Kill 3 Palestinian Militants in West Bank

4 Israeli officers wounded in incident

www.voanews.com

JERUSALEM —
Israeli security forces killed three gunmen from the Palestinian militant group Islamic Jihad in a shootout in the occupied West Bank on Saturday.

"This is a terrorist cell that has been involved in terrorist activity against security forces recently, and was apparently on its way to another attack," the police said.