Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[P F Tinmore]

"Their whole purpose in coming here is to disturb the residents," he explained. "For several weeks already, extreme leftist activists have brought shepherds from the Arab town of Hamam al-Maliah, and given them cameras to provoke us with. Today was especially bad - six herds surrounded the town, and the leftists encouraged them."

(full article online)

With cameras and rocks: Arabs surround Jewish town

It is not a town. It is an illegal settlement.

But what can you expect from a propaganda rag?

 

[Sixties Fan]

"Their whole purpose in coming here is to disturb the residents," he explained. "For several weeks already, extreme leftist activists have brought shepherds from the Arab town of Hamam al-Maliah, and given them cameras to provoke us with. Today was especially bad - six herds surrounded the town, and the leftists encouraged them."

(full article online)

With cameras and rocks: Arabs surround Jewish town

It is not a town. It is an illegal settlement.

But what can you expect from a propaganda rag?

The propaganda rag isn't even talking about how in 1948 ALL Jews were expelled from Judea and Samaria cities and villages.

It is not talking either about how ALL the Jewish cities, villages and lands were taken over by Arabs who SETTLED on Jewish owned land.

Be happy about that.

 

[Sixties Fan]

“We believe the Trump administration is serious about bringing peace between Israelis and Arabs,” Saudi Foreign Minister Adel Al-Jubeir, a former ambassador to the US, told France 24 television late on Wednesday.

“They were working on ideas and were consulting with all parties, including Saudi Arabia, and they are incorporating the views represented to them by everybody. They have said they would need a little bit of time to put it together to present it.”
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This is not the narrative that the Palestinians want the world to think about the US and Trump.

(full article online)

Palestinians get really upset when Arab leaders don't fall into line ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[P F Tinmore]

"Their whole purpose in coming here is to disturb the residents," he explained. "For several weeks already, extreme leftist activists have brought shepherds from the Arab town of Hamam al-Maliah, and given them cameras to provoke us with. Today was especially bad - six herds surrounded the town, and the leftists encouraged them."

(full article online)

With cameras and rocks: Arabs surround Jewish town

It is not a town. It is an illegal settlement.

But what can you expect from a propaganda rag?

The propaganda rag isn't even talking about how in 1948 ALL Jews were expelled from Judea and Samaria cities and villages.

It is not talking either about how ALL the Jewish cities, villages and lands were taken over by Arabs who SETTLED on Jewish owned land.

Be happy about that.

The propaganda rag isn't even talking about how in 1948 ALL Jews were expelled from Judea and Samaria cities and villages.

Yeah, that happened in Israel's war.

 

[Hollie]

"Their whole purpose in coming here is to disturb the residents," he explained. "For several weeks already, extreme leftist activists have brought shepherds from the Arab town of Hamam al-Maliah, and given them cameras to provoke us with. Today was especially bad - six herds surrounded the town, and the leftists encouraged them."

(full article online)

With cameras and rocks: Arabs surround Jewish town

It is not a town. It is an illegal settlement.

But what can you expect from a propaganda rag?

The propaganda rag isn't even talking about how in 1948 ALL Jews were expelled from Judea and Samaria cities and villages.

It is not talking either about how ALL the Jewish cities, villages and lands were taken over by Arabs who SETTLED on Jewish owned land.

Be happy about that.

The propaganda rag isn't even talking about how in 1948 ALL Jews were expelled from Judea and Samaria cities and villages.

Yeah, that happened in Israel's war.

That was the war Israel won by delivering a humiliating defeat to the Arab-Moslem gee-had that failed.

Allah akbar.

 

[P F Tinmore]

"Their whole purpose in coming here is to disturb the residents," he explained. "For several weeks already, extreme leftist activists have brought shepherds from the Arab town of Hamam al-Maliah, and given them cameras to provoke us with. Today was especially bad - six herds surrounded the town, and the leftists encouraged them."

(full article online)

With cameras and rocks: Arabs surround Jewish town

It is not a town. It is an illegal settlement.

But what can you expect from a propaganda rag?

The propaganda rag isn't even talking about how in 1948 ALL Jews were expelled from Judea and Samaria cities and villages.

It is not talking either about how ALL the Jewish cities, villages and lands were taken over by Arabs who SETTLED on Jewish owned land.

Be happy about that.

The propaganda rag isn't even talking about how in 1948 ALL Jews were expelled from Judea and Samaria cities and villages.

Yeah, that happened in Israel's war.

That was the war Israel won by delivering a humiliating defeat to the Arab-Moslem gee-had that failed.

Allah akbar.

Not according to the UN.
What did Lebanon lose?
What did Syria lose?
What did Jordan lose?
What did Egypt lose?

 

[Sixties Fan]

"Their whole purpose in coming here is to disturb the residents," he explained. "For several weeks already, extreme leftist activists have brought shepherds from the Arab town of Hamam al-Maliah, and given them cameras to provoke us with. Today was especially bad - six herds surrounded the town, and the leftists encouraged them."

(full article online)

With cameras and rocks: Arabs surround Jewish town

It is not a town. It is an illegal settlement.

But what can you expect from a propaganda rag?

The propaganda rag isn't even talking about how in 1948 ALL Jews were expelled from Judea and Samaria cities and villages.

It is not talking either about how ALL the Jewish cities, villages and lands were taken over by Arabs who SETTLED on Jewish owned land.

Be happy about that.

The propaganda rag isn't even talking about how in 1948 ALL Jews were expelled from Judea and Samaria cities and villages.

Yeah, that happened in Israel's war.

That was the war Israel won by delivering a humiliating defeat to the Arab-Moslem gee-had that failed.

Allah akbar.

Not according to the UN.
What did Lebanon lose?
What did Syria lose?
What did Jordan lose?
What did Egypt lose?

They lost a war to Jews.

By doing so:

They lost Face.
They lost their Honor.

Those are the most important things for Muslims.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Is UNWRA paying for domestic damages caused by Hamas rockets? ]

Gaza rocket misses mark, damages local home

 

[P F Tinmore]

It is not a town. It is an illegal settlement.

But what can you expect from a propaganda rag?

The propaganda rag isn't even talking about how in 1948 ALL Jews were expelled from Judea and Samaria cities and villages.

It is not talking either about how ALL the Jewish cities, villages and lands were taken over by Arabs who SETTLED on Jewish owned land.

Be happy about that.

The propaganda rag isn't even talking about how in 1948 ALL Jews were expelled from Judea and Samaria cities and villages.

Yeah, that happened in Israel's war.

That was the war Israel won by delivering a humiliating defeat to the Arab-Moslem gee-had that failed.

Allah akbar.

Not according to the UN.
What did Lebanon lose?
What did Syria lose?
What did Jordan lose?
What did Egypt lose?

They lost a war to Jews.

By doing so:

They lost Face.
They lost their Honor.

Those are the most important things for Muslims.

Not according to the UN. The fighting ended by a UN Security Council resolution calling for an armistice. Nobody won or lost that war.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The propaganda rag isn't even talking about how in 1948 ALL Jews were expelled from Judea and Samaria cities and villages.

It is not talking either about how ALL the Jewish cities, villages and lands were taken over by Arabs who SETTLED on Jewish owned land.

Be happy about that.

The propaganda rag isn't even talking about how in 1948 ALL Jews were expelled from Judea and Samaria cities and villages.

Yeah, that happened in Israel's war.

That was the war Israel won by delivering a humiliating defeat to the Arab-Moslem gee-had that failed.

Allah akbar.

Not according to the UN.
What did Lebanon lose?
What did Syria lose?
What did Jordan lose?
What did Egypt lose?

They lost a war to Jews.

By doing so:

They lost Face.
They lost their Honor.

Those are the most important things for Muslims.

Not according to the UN. The fighting ended by a UN Security Council resolution calling for an armistice. Nobody won or lost that war.

Keep believing that.
And the Muslims did not lose in 1956, 1967 or 1973 either.
All part of the armistice, still, right?
And the Muslims were all happy that, again, they did not destroy Israel and lost territory, right?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Yeah, that happened in Israel's war.

That was the war Israel won by delivering a humiliating defeat to the Arab-Moslem gee-had that failed.

Allah akbar.

Not according to the UN.
What did Lebanon lose?
What did Syria lose?
What did Jordan lose?
What did Egypt lose?

They lost a war to Jews.

By doing so:

They lost Face.
They lost their Honor.

Those are the most important things for Muslims.

Not according to the UN. The fighting ended by a UN Security Council resolution calling for an armistice. Nobody won or lost that war.

Keep believing that.
And the Muslims did not lose in 1956, 1967 or 1973 either.
All part of the armistice, still, right?
And the Muslims were all happy that, again, they did not destroy Israel and lost territory, right?

Holy deflection, Batman!

 

[Sixties Fan]

That was the war Israel won by delivering a humiliating defeat to the Arab-Moslem gee-had that failed.

Allah akbar.

Not according to the UN.
What did Lebanon lose?
What did Syria lose?
What did Jordan lose?
What did Egypt lose?

They lost a war to Jews.

By doing so:

They lost Face.
They lost their Honor.

Those are the most important things for Muslims.

Not according to the UN. The fighting ended by a UN Security Council resolution calling for an armistice. Nobody won or lost that war.

Keep believing that.
And the Muslims did not lose in 1956, 1967 or 1973 either.
All part of the armistice, still, right?
And the Muslims were all happy that, again, they did not destroy Israel and lost territory, right?

Holy deflection, Batman!

Holy crap tinman. You are full of yourself, but not full of history at all.

Look in the mirror for your deflections

Israel strives, while the Muslim world cries. Wahhhh!!!!

 

[P F Tinmore]

Not according to the UN.
What did Lebanon lose?
What did Syria lose?
What did Jordan lose?
What did Egypt lose?

They lost a war to Jews.

By doing so:

They lost Face.
They lost their Honor.

Those are the most important things for Muslims.

Not according to the UN. The fighting ended by a UN Security Council resolution calling for an armistice. Nobody won or lost that war.

Keep believing that.
And the Muslims did not lose in 1956, 1967 or 1973 either.
All part of the armistice, still, right?
And the Muslims were all happy that, again, they did not destroy Israel and lost territory, right?

Holy deflection, Batman!

Holy crap tinman. You are full of yourself, but not full of history at all.

Look in the mirror for your deflections

Israel strives, while the Muslim world cries. Wahhhh!!!!

Your response was a deflection. I just called you out on it.

 

[Sixties Fan]

They lost a war to Jews.

By doing so:

They lost Face.
They lost their Honor.

Those are the most important things for Muslims.

Not according to the UN. The fighting ended by a UN Security Council resolution calling for an armistice. Nobody won or lost that war.

Keep believing that.
And the Muslims did not lose in 1956, 1967 or 1973 either.
All part of the armistice, still, right?
And the Muslims were all happy that, again, they did not destroy Israel and lost territory, right?

Holy deflection, Batman!

Holy crap tinman. You are full of yourself, but not full of history at all.

Look in the mirror for your deflections

Israel strives, while the Muslim world cries. Wahhhh!!!!

Your response was a deflection. I just called you out on it.

Here is where you are probably going wrong:
"The fighting ended by a UN Security Council resolution calling for an armistice."

Are you saying that the UN Security Council demanded a stop to the fighting and Then....the fighting ended.

Or.....the fighting ended....and then the UN got involved with the armistice?

I believe that there is a difference

 

[P F Tinmore]

Not according to the UN. The fighting ended by a UN Security Council resolution calling for an armistice. Nobody won or lost that war.

Keep believing that.
And the Muslims did not lose in 1956, 1967 or 1973 either.
All part of the armistice, still, right?
And the Muslims were all happy that, again, they did not destroy Israel and lost territory, right?

Holy deflection, Batman!

Holy crap tinman. You are full of yourself, but not full of history at all.

Look in the mirror for your deflections

Israel strives, while the Muslim world cries. Wahhhh!!!!

Your response was a deflection. I just called you out on it.

Here is where you are probably going wrong:
"The fighting ended by a UN Security Council resolution calling for an armistice."

Are you saying that the UN Security Council demanded a stop to the fighting and Then....the fighting ended.

Or.....the fighting ended....and then the UN got involved with the armistice?

I believe that there is a difference

The Parties to the present Agreement, responding to the Security Council resolution of 16 November 1948 calling upon them, as a further provisional measure under Article 40 of the Charter of the United Nations and in order to facilitate the transition from the present truce to permanent peace in Palestine to negotiate an Armistice; having, decided to enter into negotiations under United Nations Chairmanship concerning the implementation of the Security Council resolutions of 4 and 16 November 1948; and having appointed representatives empowered to negotiate and conclude an Armistice Agreement;

https://peacemaker.un.org/sites/pea...ptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement.pdf

 

[Sixties Fan]

Keep believing that.
And the Muslims did not lose in 1956, 1967 or 1973 either.
All part of the armistice, still, right?
And the Muslims were all happy that, again, they did not destroy Israel and lost territory, right?

Holy deflection, Batman!

Holy crap tinman. You are full of yourself, but not full of history at all.

Look in the mirror for your deflections

Israel strives, while the Muslim world cries. Wahhhh!!!!

Your response was a deflection. I just called you out on it.

Here is where you are probably going wrong:
"The fighting ended by a UN Security Council resolution calling for an armistice."

Are you saying that the UN Security Council demanded a stop to the fighting and Then....the fighting ended.

Or.....the fighting ended....and then the UN got involved with the armistice?

I believe that there is a difference

The Parties to the present Agreement, responding to the Security Council resolution of 16 November 1948 calling upon them, as a further provisional measure under Article 40 of the Charter of the United Nations and in order to facilitate the transition from the present truce to permanent peace in Palestine to negotiate an Armistice; having, decided to enter into negotiations under United Nations Chairmanship concerning the implementation of the Security Council resolutions of 4 and 16 November 1948; and having appointed representatives empowered to negotiate and conclude an Armistice Agreement;

https://peacemaker.un.org/sites/peacemaker.un.org/files/EG IL_490224_Egyptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement.pdf

Reading comprehension tin man.

First, the parties need to STOP fighting. Then there is a truce. Then an armistice.

From what you wrote, the UN "ordered them to stop the fighting and sign an armistice"

Reread what you wrote in your previous post.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Holy deflection, Batman!

Holy crap tinman. You are full of yourself, but not full of history at all.

Look in the mirror for your deflections

Israel strives, while the Muslim world cries. Wahhhh!!!!

Your response was a deflection. I just called you out on it.

Here is where you are probably going wrong:
"The fighting ended by a UN Security Council resolution calling for an armistice."

Are you saying that the UN Security Council demanded a stop to the fighting and Then....the fighting ended.

Or.....the fighting ended....and then the UN got involved with the armistice?

I believe that there is a difference

The Parties to the present Agreement, responding to the Security Council resolution of 16 November 1948 calling upon them, as a further provisional measure under Article 40 of the Charter of the United Nations and in order to facilitate the transition from the present truce to permanent peace in Palestine to negotiate an Armistice; having, decided to enter into negotiations under United Nations Chairmanship concerning the implementation of the Security Council resolutions of 4 and 16 November 1948; and having appointed representatives empowered to negotiate and conclude an Armistice Agreement;

https://peacemaker.un.org/sites/peacemaker.un.org/files/EG IL_490224_Egyptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement.pdf

Reading comprehension tin man.

First, the parties need to STOP fighting. Then there is a truce. Then an armistice.

From what you wrote, the UN "ordered them to stop the fighting and sign an armistice"

Reread what you wrote in your previous post.

The UN Security Council called for the armistice. Several truces were broken before the Security Council stepped in.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Holy crap tinman. You are full of yourself, but not full of history at all.

Look in the mirror for your deflections

Israel strives, while the Muslim world cries. Wahhhh!!!!

Your response was a deflection. I just called you out on it.

Here is where you are probably going wrong:
"The fighting ended by a UN Security Council resolution calling for an armistice."

Are you saying that the UN Security Council demanded a stop to the fighting and Then....the fighting ended.

Or.....the fighting ended....and then the UN got involved with the armistice?

I believe that there is a difference

The Parties to the present Agreement, responding to the Security Council resolution of 16 November 1948 calling upon them, as a further provisional measure under Article 40 of the Charter of the United Nations and in order to facilitate the transition from the present truce to permanent peace in Palestine to negotiate an Armistice; having, decided to enter into negotiations under United Nations Chairmanship concerning the implementation of the Security Council resolutions of 4 and 16 November 1948; and having appointed representatives empowered to negotiate and conclude an Armistice Agreement;

https://peacemaker.un.org/sites/peacemaker.un.org/files/EG IL_490224_Egyptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement.pdf

Reading comprehension tin man.

First, the parties need to STOP fighting. Then there is a truce. Then an armistice.

From what you wrote, the UN "ordered them to stop the fighting and sign an armistice"

Reread what you wrote in your previous post.

The UN Security Council called for the armistice. Several truces were broken before the Security Council stepped in.

Show me one source where it says that the UN called for the armistice.

Don't the parties have to agree to a truce and the armistice first?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Your response was a deflection. I just called you out on it.

Here is where you are probably going wrong:
"The fighting ended by a UN Security Council resolution calling for an armistice."

Are you saying that the UN Security Council demanded a stop to the fighting and Then....the fighting ended.

Or.....the fighting ended....and then the UN got involved with the armistice?

I believe that there is a difference

The Parties to the present Agreement, responding to the Security Council resolution of 16 November 1948 calling upon them, as a further provisional measure under Article 40 of the Charter of the United Nations and in order to facilitate the transition from the present truce to permanent peace in Palestine to negotiate an Armistice; having, decided to enter into negotiations under United Nations Chairmanship concerning the implementation of the Security Council resolutions of 4 and 16 November 1948; and having appointed representatives empowered to negotiate and conclude an Armistice Agreement;

https://peacemaker.un.org/sites/peacemaker.un.org/files/EG IL_490224_Egyptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement.pdf

Reading comprehension tin man.

First, the parties need to STOP fighting. Then there is a truce. Then an armistice.

From what you wrote, the UN "ordered them to stop the fighting and sign an armistice"

Reread what you wrote in your previous post.

The UN Security Council called for the armistice. Several truces were broken before the Security Council stepped in.

Show me one source where it says that the UN called for the armistice.

Don't the parties have to agree to a truce and the armistice first?

If that were the case, the Security Council would not need to demand one.

 

[Hollie]

The propaganda rag isn't even talking about how in 1948 ALL Jews were expelled from Judea and Samaria cities and villages.

It is not talking either about how ALL the Jewish cities, villages and lands were taken over by Arabs who SETTLED on Jewish owned land.

Be happy about that.

The propaganda rag isn't even talking about how in 1948 ALL Jews were expelled from Judea and Samaria cities and villages.

Yeah, that happened in Israel's war.

That was the war Israel won by delivering a humiliating defeat to the Arab-Moslem gee-had that failed.

Allah akbar.

Not according to the UN.
What did Lebanon lose?
What did Syria lose?
What did Jordan lose?
What did Egypt lose?

They lost a war to Jews.

By doing so:

They lost Face.
They lost their Honor.

Those are the most important things for Muslims.

Not according to the UN. The fighting ended by a UN Security Council resolution calling for an armistice. Nobody won or lost that war.

I can see you're desperately trying to avoid the admission that you Arabs-Moslems were delivered a humiliating defeat. The war israel fought and won in 1948 was about the survival of the nascent state. The Arab-Moslem goal to destroy Israel was never realised.

As we saw over the course of the next decades, you Arabs-Moslems tried and failed repeatedly for a hoped-for genocide that you couldn't accomplish against a better military.

Allah akbar.