Who is really "living off of the government"

[TheDude]

Liberal logic defined:

A. There are 100 white and 10 black people: 10 whites on welfare and 5 black, thus more white people are on welfare.

B. Federal mandates provide $1000 per state for welfare systems. There are 100 people in California and 10 people in Alaska. Thus, Alaska uses more federal dollars per person, showing it's Alaska that's a drag on the system.


Remember people, liberals declare they're intelligent while conservatives are uneducated.........FUN!

 

[BrokeLoser]

Liberal logic defined:

A. There are 100 white and 10 black people: 10 whites on welfare and 5 black, thus more white people are on welfare.

B. Federal mandates provide $1000 per state for welfare systems. There are 100 people in California and 10 people in Alaska. Thus, Alaska uses more federal dollars per person, showing it's Alaska that's a drag on the system.


Remember people, liberals declare they're intelligent while conservatives are uneducated.........FUN!

Haha...try teaching a Libtard about per capita factoring....it's easier to teach a 10 year old to pass the Bar Exam.

 

[percysunshine]

It is a common insult from the right to say that the democrats don't work. Democrats are lazy. Democrats want handouts. Democrats live off the government.

but who is really "living off of the government?"

In analysing what states spend the most federal dollars- it is clear that RED states tend to have higher poverty rates, and they definitely receive more fed money.

"[W]ho really benefits from government spending? If you listen to Rush Limbaugh, you might think it was those blue states, packed with damn hippie socialist liberals, sipping their lattes and providing free abortions for bored, horny teenagers. ...

As it turns out, it is red states that are overwhelmingly the Welfare Queen States. Yes, that's right. Red States—the ones governed by folks who think government is too big and spending needs to be cut—are a net drain on the economy, taking in more federal spending than they pay out in federal taxes. They talk a good game, but stick Blue States with the bill."

Which States Are Givers and Which Are Takers?

Who is more educated?

"Highly educated adults – particularly those who have attended graduate school – are far more likely than those with less education to take predominantly liberal positions across a range of political values."

A Wider Ideological Gap Between More and Less Educated Adults


Who is working harder?

Here are the 12 states with a higher than the national average unemployment rate of 5.0%:

1). West Virginia (D) (6.9%)

2). Alaska (R) (6.4%)

3). Arizona (R) (6.1%)

4). Louisiana (R) (6.2%)

5). Nevada (R) (6.6%)

6). Alabama (R) (5.9%)

7). Georgia (R) (5.7%)

8). New Mexico (R) (6.8%)

9). Mississippi (R) (5.9%)

10). North Carolina (R) (5.7%)

11). Oregon (D) (6.0%)

12). California (D) (5.8%

Proof Of GOP Failure: 9 of 12 States With Highest Unemployment Are Run By Republicans

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Government employees are living off the government.

This is not a very complicated topic of discussion.

 

[whitehall]

The funny thing is that only democrats seem to use tired old phrases like "democrats are lazy" and "democrats want handouts". The people who voted for Trump are too busy trying to better themselves than to dwell on old political cliches. The radical left conveniently forgets that the democrat party shut down the coal industry in West Va. while donating taxpayer dollars to support the failed and laughable solar industry. The problem with the democrat party is that they really believe this class envy cliche stuff. They were so busy playing to their idiot base with a tired old 60's vintage playbook that they forgot that Americans want real change instead of Hussein slogans and that's why they voted for Trump.

 

[Aries]

Stupid fucking liberals. This is old news & you sport it as if it's new indicating you're desperate for a narrative.

I know the welfare system and you & this bullshit narrative are 100% misleading and wrong........Here's a hint "educated liberal"...........Economies of scale & federal dollars Vs state dollars....................

Jesus........................Lies on top of lies.

Again, very hard to stumble through that mess of emotional outburst but I'll try..
This is old news. As old as the "dems don't have jobs" joke that you guys can't get off of.

 

[Aries]

No, yours are. "we have more black people"

lol, moron.

well, facts and statistics back me up

you have anything outside of ad hominem attacks to refute what I am saying?

I'll be holding my breath...

7 Facts About Government Benefits and Who Gets Them

looks like race plays a small role. After you factor in the systemic oppression african americans face- that totally nixes your race card. Try again.

wow, you are less bright than I originally thought

your article actually proves my point - 64% of blacks receive some form of government benefits, and a larger percentage of democrats are on the dole - that's according to your article...

furthermore, your article lists Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid. People actually pay into Social Security, so listing that as "being on the government dole" and pushing the elderly into that category is misleading

a better and more accurate chart would show numbers of people that receive those benefits in excess of what they actually paid in

you are going to have to do better that that baw

but you won't be able to...

Black people are at a slightly higher percentage than whites and whites are double that rate ahead of hispanics. My point is that red states and their politicians have had the time and the means to create a state that isn't a welfare queen. They can't. I skipped the SS and medicare/medicaid part as it is not a handout. Yes, the comparisons do show the dollar take on the dollar given- should be on the first link. Red states take out more than they put in, while blue states do the opposite.

Incorrect as usual: Welfare: Who's on It, Who's Not? - American Renaissance

Incidentally............50% of immigrant children receive welfare.

they are also off of it much quicker than US born..

 

[TheDude]

Stupid fucking liberals. This is old news & you sport it as if it's new indicating you're desperate for a narrative.

I know the welfare system and you & this bullshit narrative are 100% misleading and wrong........Here's a hint "educated liberal"...........Economies of scale & federal dollars Vs state dollars....................

Jesus........................Lies on top of lies.

Again, very hard to stumble through that mess of emotional outburst but I'll try..
This is old news. As old as the "dems don't have jobs" joke that you guys can't get off of.

Your spins and projections don't work with me lib. You might try to establish why.

 

[Rustic]

It is a common insult from the right to say that the democrats don't work. Democrats are lazy. Democrats want handouts. Democrats live off the government.

but who is really "living off of the government?"

In analysing what states spend the most federal dollars- it is clear that RED states tend to have higher poverty rates, and they definitely receive more fed money.

"[W]ho really benefits from government spending? If you listen to Rush Limbaugh, you might think it was those blue states, packed with damn hippie socialist liberals, sipping their lattes and providing free abortions for bored, horny teenagers. ...

As it turns out, it is red states that are overwhelmingly the Welfare Queen States. Yes, that's right. Red States—the ones governed by folks who think government is too big and spending needs to be cut—are a net drain on the economy, taking in more federal spending than they pay out in federal taxes. They talk a good game, but stick Blue States with the bill."

Which States Are Givers and Which Are Takers?

Who is more educated?

"Highly educated adults – particularly those who have attended graduate school – are far more likely than those with less education to take predominantly liberal positions across a range of political values."

A Wider Ideological Gap Between More and Less Educated Adults


Who is working harder?

Here are the 12 states with a higher than the national average unemployment rate of 5.0%:

1). West Virginia (D) (6.9%)

2). Alaska (R) (6.4%)

3). Arizona (R) (6.1%)

4). Louisiana (R) (6.2%)

5). Nevada (R) (6.6%)

6). Alabama (R) (5.9%)

7). Georgia (R) (5.7%)

8). New Mexico (R) (6.8%)

9). Mississippi (R) (5.9%)

10). North Carolina (R) (5.7%)

11). Oregon (D) (6.0%)

12). California (D) (5.8%

Proof Of GOP Failure: 9 of 12 States With Highest Unemployment Are Run By Republicans

A gigantic overbearing federal government has made easy for losers to suck the federal government tit... fact

and republicans are taking full advantage, fact.

The GOP establishment are really progressives so it would suggest their followers are too… Fact
Socialism is a disease that affects most of the country thanks to a fucked up federal government full of career politicians.

 

[Aries]

Stupid fucking liberals. This is old news & you sport it as if it's new indicating you're desperate for a narrative.

I know the welfare system and you & this bullshit narrative are 100% misleading and wrong........Here's a hint "educated liberal"...........Economies of scale & federal dollars Vs state dollars....................

Jesus........................Lies on top of lies.

Again, very hard to stumble through that mess of emotional outburst but I'll try..
This is old news. As old as the "dems don't have jobs" joke that you guys can't get off of.

Your spins and projections don't work with me lib. You might try to establish why.

because it's not me that is spinning but your own mind?

 

[dcbl]

Again, very hard to stumble through that mess of emotional outburst but I'll try..
This is old news. As old as the "dems don't have jobs" joke that you guys can't get off of.

you've had your ass handed to you in the thread, but I have a sneaky suspicion that you are used to it

 

[Aries]

It is a common insult from the right to say that the democrats don't work. Democrats are lazy. Democrats want handouts. Democrats live off the government.

but who is really "living off of the government?"

In analysing what states spend the most federal dollars- it is clear that RED states tend to have higher poverty rates, and they definitely receive more fed money.

"[W]ho really benefits from government spending? If you listen to Rush Limbaugh, you might think it was those blue states, packed with damn hippie socialist liberals, sipping their lattes and providing free abortions for bored, horny teenagers. ...

As it turns out, it is red states that are overwhelmingly the Welfare Queen States. Yes, that's right. Red States—the ones governed by folks who think government is too big and spending needs to be cut—are a net drain on the economy, taking in more federal spending than they pay out in federal taxes. They talk a good game, but stick Blue States with the bill."

Which States Are Givers and Which Are Takers?

Who is more educated?

"Highly educated adults – particularly those who have attended graduate school – are far more likely than those with less education to take predominantly liberal positions across a range of political values."

A Wider Ideological Gap Between More and Less Educated Adults


Who is working harder?

Here are the 12 states with a higher than the national average unemployment rate of 5.0%:

1). West Virginia (D) (6.9%)

2). Alaska (R) (6.4%)

3). Arizona (R) (6.1%)

4). Louisiana (R) (6.2%)

5). Nevada (R) (6.6%)

6). Alabama (R) (5.9%)

7). Georgia (R) (5.7%)

8). New Mexico (R) (6.8%)

9). Mississippi (R) (5.9%)

10). North Carolina (R) (5.7%)

11). Oregon (D) (6.0%)

12). California (D) (5.8%

Proof Of GOP Failure: 9 of 12 States With Highest Unemployment Are Run By Republicans

A gigantic overbearing federal government has made easy for losers to suck the federal government tit... fact

and republicans are taking full advantage, fact.

The GOP establishment are really progressives so it would suggest their followers are too… Fact
Socialism is a disease that affects most of the country thanks to a fucked up federal government full of career politicians.

Jesus christ. I can't believe people like you exist and make it into adulthood. The GOP are progressives? What do they progress us into besides poverty and war you nut?

 

[Siete]

Liberal logic defined:

A. There are 100 white and 10 black people: 10 whites on welfare and 5 black, thus more white people are on welfare.

B. Federal mandates provide $1000 per state for welfare systems. There are 100 people in California and 10 people in Alaska. Thus, Alaska uses more federal dollars per person, showing it's Alaska that's a drag on the system.


Remember people, liberals declare they're intelligent while conservatives are uneducated.........FUN!

oh, I get it now... Rightwing state leaders are elected by Leftwing voters then intentionally choose to remain on government support just to make RW leadership look like they arent capable of running their state .. its subterfuge!

RW logic defined ...

 

[Aries]

Again, very hard to stumble through that mess of emotional outburst but I'll try..
This is old news. As old as the "dems don't have jobs" joke that you guys can't get off of.

you've had your ass handed to you in the thread, but I have a sneaky suspicion that you are used to it

I have noticed we have different views. In my opinion you've just had your ass handed to you. You red fed money sucker.

 

[Aries]

Liberal logic defined:

A. There are 100 white and 10 black people: 10 whites on welfare and 5 black, thus more white people are on welfare.

B. Federal mandates provide $1000 per state for welfare systems. There are 100 people in California and 10 people in Alaska. Thus, Alaska uses more federal dollars per person, showing it's Alaska that's a drag on the system.


Remember people, liberals declare they're intelligent while conservatives are uneducated.........FUN!

oh, I get it now... Rightwing state leaders are elected by Leftwing voters then intentionally choose to remain on government support just to make RW leadership look like they arent capable of running their state .. its subterfuge!

RW logic defined ...

brilliant aren't they?

 

[dcbl]

I have noticed we have different views. In my opinion you've just had your ass handed to you. You red fed money sucker.

oh I have lost arguments before, but not today

you have demonstrated reading comprehension problems & seem to be unfazed by facts and logic - even to the point of not understanding the information that you provided to back up your claims, information that actually refuted your own point

I came in this thread with the intention of engaging you in a serious conversation, you have demonstrated that you aren't interested

noted for future threads...

 

[Aries]

I have noticed we have different views. In my opinion you've just had your ass handed to you. You red fed money sucker.

oh I have lost arguments before, but not today

you have demonstrated reading comprehension problems & seem to be unfazed by facts and logic - even to the point of not understanding the information that you provided to back up your claims, information that actually refuted your own point

I came in this thread with the intention of engaging you in a serious conversation, you have demonstrated that you aren't interested

noted for future threads...

your "facts and logic" include: "red states have more black people" and "red states have dems in there too"

really?


.....



really?


next time you have the intention of engaging, don't lol.

 

[Dragonlady]

most of the red states that take higher percentages of federal dollars also have much higher minority populations, especially African Americans

For whatever reason (and I don't want t get into that ITT) - the black community has been mired in desperation and poverty for some time - I know for a fact that GA & AL have the biggest problems in the big cities (Atlanta, Birmingham, Savannah, Montgomery, Augusta, Mobile)

also - when you look at charitable giving, actual dollars that are given out of pocket, Alabama is ALWAYS at the top of the list, as is Utah

your points are frivilous

Utah has a high rate of giving because of the Mormon population and Mormons tithe. Even Mormons with low income tithe, believing that God will provide. It is as much a pillar of their faith as abstaining from caffeine, or marriage for time and all eternity.

 

[Dragonlady]

No, yours are. "we have more black people"

lol, moron.

well, facts and statistics back me up

you have anything outside of ad hominem attacks to refute what I am saying?

I'll be holding my breath...

7 Facts About Government Benefits and Who Gets Them

looks like race plays a small role. After you factor in the systemic oppression african americans face- that totally nixes your race card. Try again.

wow, you are less bright than I originally thought

your article actually proves my point - 64% of blacks receive some form of government benefits, and a larger percentage of democrats are on the dole - that's according to your article...

furthermore, your article lists Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid. People actually pay into Social Security, so listing that as "being on the government dole" and pushing the elderly into that category is misleading

a better and more accurate chart would show numbers of people that receive those benefits in excess of what they actually paid in

you are going to have to do better that that baw

but you won't be able to...

How many poor people belong to either party? The poor don't vote, especially in red states which have been suppressing the poor vote for years. To claim that all poor people are Democrats is ridiculous.

 

[Dragonlady]

It is a common insult from the right to say that the democrats don't work. Democrats are lazy. Democrats want handouts. Democrats live off the government.

but who is really "living off of the government?"

In analysing what states spend the most federal dollars- it is clear that RED states tend to have higher poverty rates, and they definitely receive more fed money.

"[W]ho really benefits from government spending? If you listen to Rush Limbaugh, you might think it was those blue states, packed with damn hippie socialist liberals, sipping their lattes and providing free abortions for bored, horny teenagers. ...

As it turns out, it is red states that are overwhelmingly the Welfare Queen States. Yes, that's right. Red States—the ones governed by folks who think government is too big and spending needs to be cut—are a net drain on the economy, taking in more federal spending than they pay out in federal taxes. They talk a good game, but stick Blue States with the bill."

Which States Are Givers and Which Are Takers?

Who is more educated?

"Highly educated adults – particularly those who have attended graduate school – are far more likely than those with less education to take predominantly liberal positions across a range of political values."

A Wider Ideological Gap Between More and Less Educated Adults


Who is working harder?

Here are the 12 states with a higher than the national average unemployment rate of 5.0%:

1). West Virginia (D) (6.9%)

2). Alaska (R) (6.4%)

3). Arizona (R) (6.1%)

4). Louisiana (R) (6.2%)

5). Nevada (R) (6.6%)

6). Alabama (R) (5.9%)

7). Georgia (R) (5.7%)

8). New Mexico (R) (6.8%)

9). Mississippi (R) (5.9%)

10). North Carolina (R) (5.7%)

11). Oregon (D) (6.0%)

12). California (D) (5.8%

Proof Of GOP Failure: 9 of 12 States With Highest Unemployment Are Run By Republicans

Oh geez, more of the same from the desperate and confused Liberals.
California - 12% of the nations population, 33% of the nations welfare recipients - FACT
By the way Hawaii and New York are fighting CA for that number one spot....are they blue or red states? hahaha
Here you go:
It Looks Like Red States Take Most in Federal 'Welfare' from this Map. But Looks Can Be Deceiving.
California’s Welfare Benefits: Boom or Bust?
"There has been much discussion about immigrants in the United States from everywhere around the world. Yet, why is it that California seems to attract the most immigrants of any state? Indeed, while the state is only 12% of the nation’s population, it is home to 33% of welfare residents. According to a report published by the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) on January 26, 2015, there is a correlation between generous welfare benefits and an increase in immigration.

In total, California outspends every other state in public welfare spending – in 2014, it spent $22.4 billion. In contrast, the next closest state, New York, spent $11.9 billion. That being said, does this make California a magnet for immigrants? Not necessarily. It is more of an anchor – a reason why residents stay for long periods of time in the state. However, to deny that there is no magnet would be incorrect. According to George J. Borjas, the Robert W. Scrivner Professor of Economics and Social Policy at the Harvard Kennedy School and the author of the aforementioned report, the reason as to why people decide to relocate is due to “income-maximizing behavior.” Immigrants have already accepted that there are certain fixed costs that are inevitable because of migration, so it is natural that they will flock towards the places with the highest benefits. Empirical evidence suggests that it is because of these differences that there are an increasingly disproportionate number of immigrants among states. While there is the possibility of alternative explanations for this phenomenon, the conclusion that Borjas draws using the wealth-maximization hypothesis is one such testable method.

However, upon closer examination, on a per-capita basis, California’s seemingly generous benefits pale in data comparison to other states. For example, it spends approximately $179 for every resident, behind $233 in Hawaii and $256 in New York. Furthermore, approximately 8.9% of California residents live in poverty, the highest of any state. Despite this, the number of people immigrating to California increases exponentially each year.

You're quoting some student's thesis as a source? What a bullshit piece of crap?

 

[Aries]

No, yours are. "we have more black people"

lol, moron.

well, facts and statistics back me up

you have anything outside of ad hominem attacks to refute what I am saying?

I'll be holding my breath...

7 Facts About Government Benefits and Who Gets Them

looks like race plays a small role. After you factor in the systemic oppression african americans face- that totally nixes your race card. Try again.

wow, you are less bright than I originally thought

your article actually proves my point - 64% of blacks receive some form of government benefits, and a larger percentage of democrats are on the dole - that's according to your article...

furthermore, your article lists Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid. People actually pay into Social Security, so listing that as "being on the government dole" and pushing the elderly into that category is misleading

a better and more accurate chart would show numbers of people that receive those benefits in excess of what they actually paid in

you are going to have to do better that that baw

but you won't be able to...

How many poor people belong to either party? The poor don't vote, especially in red states which have been suppressing the poor vote for years. To claim that all poor people are Democrats is ridiculous.

My focus is more on the responsibility of repub leadership to practice what they preach and create states that do not have to depend on the programs they so despise.