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No. These are the issues that frame the presidency. Surely had Sec. Clinton won, you and your ilk would have serious questions about her character and alleged actions. Your blind loyalty to Trump is what keeps you from understanding the serious nature of these issues.Those are the "greater issues" only to douche bags that hate Trump.Can you move your narrow focus to the greater issues? Trump's taxes, his foreign entanglements and his lack of a mandate.Conflicts of interest. Russian connections. These are the salient issues concerning Trump's legitimacy. Had he disclosed his tax returns, had he had a more responsible response to the Russian hacking story, he might not be under this cloud of suspicion. Trump did not win a majority of the vote. He cannot effectively govern with just the support of his base. He will need the support of the whole nation.Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017
It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.
Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration
He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.
Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.
But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.
What suspicion? Trump won 304 electoral votes according to how the Constitution says the process should occur. Nothing suspicious about that?
Trump won a majority of the vote required to get elected. You fucking morons keep bringing up the overall popular vote. Do the individual grades in a student's class have anything to do with the individual grades in their other classes?
Wrong, they're just part of the douche bag campaign to destroy Trump. They don't "frame" anything other than your dishonesty, hypocrisy and general sleaziness.No. These are the issues that frame the presidency. Surely had Sec. Clinton won, you and your ilk would have serious questions about her character and alleged actions. Your blind loyalty to Trump is what keeps you from understanding the serious nature of these issues.Those are the "greater issues" only to douche bags that hate Trump.Can you move your narrow focus to the greater issues? Trump's taxes, his foreign entanglements and his lack of a mandate.Conflicts of interest. Russian connections. These are the salient issues concerning Trump's legitimacy. Had he disclosed his tax returns, had he had a more responsible response to the Russian hacking story, he might not be under this cloud of suspicion. Trump did not win a majority of the vote. He cannot effectively govern with just the support of his base. He will need the support of the whole nation.What suspicion? Trump won 304 electoral votes according to how the Constitution says the process should occur. Nothing suspicious about that?
Trump won a majority of the vote required to get elected. You fucking morons keep bringing up the overall popular vote. Do the individual grades in a student's class have anything to do with the individual grades in their other classes?
I have plenty more reasons to hate Trump. But his finances and his foreign entanglements are the prime issues that hobble his presidency and call it into legitimate question.
No. These are the issues that frame the presidency. Surely had Sec. Clinton won, you and your ilk would have serious questions about her character and alleged actions. Your blind loyalty to Trump is what keeps you from understanding the serious nature of these issues.Those are the "greater issues" only to douche bags that hate Trump.Can you move your narrow focus to the greater issues? Trump's taxes, his foreign entanglements and his lack of a mandate.Conflicts of interest. Russian connections. These are the salient issues concerning Trump's legitimacy. Had he disclosed his tax returns, had he had a more responsible response to the Russian hacking story, he might not be under this cloud of suspicion. Trump did not win a majority of the vote. He cannot effectively govern with just the support of his base. He will need the support of the whole nation.What suspicion? Trump won 304 electoral votes according to how the Constitution says the process should occur. Nothing suspicious about that?
Trump won a majority of the vote required to get elected. You fucking morons keep bringing up the overall popular vote. Do the individual grades in a student's class have anything to do with the individual grades in their other classes?
I have plenty more reasons to hate Trump. But his finances and his foreign entanglements are the prime issues that hobble his presidency and call it into legitimate question.
Are you saying that the allegations against Sec. Clinton were baseless, non-criminal and politically motivated? Because that's what your saying about the allegations against Trump.Wrong, they're just part of the douche bag campaign to destroy Trump. They don't "frame" anything other than your dishonesty, hypocrisy and general sleaziness.No. These are the issues that frame the presidency. Surely had Sec. Clinton won, you and your ilk would have serious questions about her character and alleged actions. Your blind loyalty to Trump is what keeps you from understanding the serious nature of these issues.Those are the "greater issues" only to douche bags that hate Trump.Can you move your narrow focus to the greater issues? Trump's taxes, his foreign entanglements and his lack of a mandate.Conflicts of interest. Russian connections. These are the salient issues concerning Trump's legitimacy. Had he disclosed his tax returns, had he had a more responsible response to the Russian hacking story, he might not be under this cloud of suspicion. Trump did not win a majority of the vote. He cannot effectively govern with just the support of his base. He will need the support of the whole nation.
Trump won a majority of the vote required to get elected. You fucking morons keep bringing up the overall popular vote. Do the individual grades in a student's class have anything to do with the individual grades in their other classes?
I have plenty more reasons to hate Trump. But his finances and his foreign entanglements are the prime issues that hobble his presidency and call it into legitimate question.
You didn't give a damn about Clinton selling her office to foreign governments for personal gain, so why should anyone care about Trump's so-called "foreign entanglements? If Trump took a vacation to the South of France, you would claim he was conspiring with the French government.
You didn't care about Clinton using her CGI to gather in vast sums of foreign cash, so your claims about Trump's finances are obviously bogus.
Are you saying that the allegations against Sec. Clinton were baseless, non-criminal and politically motivated? Because that's what your saying about the allegations against Trump.Wrong, they're just part of the douche bag campaign to destroy Trump. They don't "frame" anything other than your dishonesty, hypocrisy and general sleaziness.No. These are the issues that frame the presidency. Surely had Sec. Clinton won, you and your ilk would have serious questions about her character and alleged actions. Your blind loyalty to Trump is what keeps you from understanding the serious nature of these issues.Those are the "greater issues" only to douche bags that hate Trump.Can you move your narrow focus to the greater issues? Trump's taxes, his foreign entanglements and his lack of a mandate.Trump won a majority of the vote required to get elected. You fucking morons keep bringing up the overall popular vote. Do the individual grades in a student's class have anything to do with the individual grades in their other classes?
I have plenty more reasons to hate Trump. But his finances and his foreign entanglements are the prime issues that hobble his presidency and call it into legitimate question.
You didn't give a damn about Clinton selling her office to foreign governments for personal gain, so why should anyone care about Trump's so-called "foreign entanglements? If Trump took a vacation to the South of France, you would claim he was conspiring with the French government.
You didn't care about Clinton using her CGI to gather in vast sums of foreign cash, so your claims about Trump's finances are obviously bogus.
You can't have it both ways.
Are you saying that the allegations against Sec. Clinton were baseless, non-criminal and politically motivated? Because that's what your saying about the allegations against Trump.Wrong, they're just part of the douche bag campaign to destroy Trump. They don't "frame" anything other than your dishonesty, hypocrisy and general sleaziness.No. These are the issues that frame the presidency. Surely had Sec. Clinton won, you and your ilk would have serious questions about her character and alleged actions. Your blind loyalty to Trump is what keeps you from understanding the serious nature of these issues.Those are the "greater issues" only to douche bags that hate Trump.Can you move your narrow focus to the greater issues? Trump's taxes, his foreign entanglements and his lack of a mandate.Trump won a majority of the vote required to get elected. You fucking morons keep bringing up the overall popular vote. Do the individual grades in a student's class have anything to do with the individual grades in their other classes?
I have plenty more reasons to hate Trump. But his finances and his foreign entanglements are the prime issues that hobble his presidency and call it into legitimate question.
You didn't give a damn about Clinton selling her office to foreign governments for personal gain, so why should anyone care about Trump's so-called "foreign entanglements? If Trump took a vacation to the South of France, you would claim he was conspiring with the French government.
You didn't care about Clinton using her CGI to gather in vast sums of foreign cash, so your claims about Trump's finances are obviously bogus.
You can't have it both ways.
Oh! I understand. Billionaires are not only trustworthy, but beyond reproach and investigation. They are in a class of law and ethics we should never question.No. These are the issues that frame the presidency. Surely had Sec. Clinton won, you and your ilk would have serious questions about her character and alleged actions. Your blind loyalty to Trump is what keeps you from understanding the serious nature of these issues.Those are the "greater issues" only to douche bags that hate Trump.Can you move your narrow focus to the greater issues? Trump's taxes, his foreign entanglements and his lack of a mandate.Conflicts of interest. Russian connections. These are the salient issues concerning Trump's legitimacy. Had he disclosed his tax returns, had he had a more responsible response to the Russian hacking story, he might not be under this cloud of suspicion. Trump did not win a majority of the vote. He cannot effectively govern with just the support of his base. He will need the support of the whole nation.
Trump won a majority of the vote required to get elected. You fucking morons keep bringing up the overall popular vote. Do the individual grades in a student's class have anything to do with the individual grades in their other classes?
I have plenty more reasons to hate Trump. But his finances and his foreign entanglements are the prime issues that hobble his presidency and call it into legitimate question.
I had serious concerns about her character before she ever announced she was running.
He's worth billions and could buy/sell a piss ant like you a thousand times over.
Where's your logic? Trump is your boy and should not have any ethics questions because they could be politically damaging, but allegations against your political opposition should be followed by automatic conviction?Are you saying that the allegations against Sec. Clinton were baseless, non-criminal and politically motivated? Because that's what your saying about the allegations against Trump.Wrong, they're just part of the douche bag campaign to destroy Trump. They don't "frame" anything other than your dishonesty, hypocrisy and general sleaziness.No. These are the issues that frame the presidency. Surely had Sec. Clinton won, you and your ilk would have serious questions about her character and alleged actions. Your blind loyalty to Trump is what keeps you from understanding the serious nature of these issues.Those are the "greater issues" only to douche bags that hate Trump.Can you move your narrow focus to the greater issues? Trump's taxes, his foreign entanglements and his lack of a mandate.
I have plenty more reasons to hate Trump. But his finances and his foreign entanglements are the prime issues that hobble his presidency and call it into legitimate question.
You didn't give a damn about Clinton selling her office to foreign governments for personal gain, so why should anyone care about Trump's so-called "foreign entanglements? If Trump took a vacation to the South of France, you would claim he was conspiring with the French government.
You didn't care about Clinton using her CGI to gather in vast sums of foreign cash, so your claims about Trump's finances are obviously bogus.
You can't have it both ways.
Horseshit. Where is the rule that says if allegations against one candidate are true then allegations against another are true? That's the kind of idiot "logic" that left wingers specialize in.
Being a billionaire doesn't automatically make you a criminal, as douche bags like you believe.Oh! I understand. Billionaires are not only trustworthy, but beyond reproach and investigation. They are in a class of law and ethics we should never question.No. These are the issues that frame the presidency. Surely had Sec. Clinton won, you and your ilk would have serious questions about her character and alleged actions. Your blind loyalty to Trump is what keeps you from understanding the serious nature of these issues.Those are the "greater issues" only to douche bags that hate Trump.Can you move your narrow focus to the greater issues? Trump's taxes, his foreign entanglements and his lack of a mandate.Trump won a majority of the vote required to get elected. You fucking morons keep bringing up the overall popular vote. Do the individual grades in a student's class have anything to do with the individual grades in their other classes?
I have plenty more reasons to hate Trump. But his finances and his foreign entanglements are the prime issues that hobble his presidency and call it into legitimate question.
I had serious concerns about her character before she ever announced she was running.
He's worth billions and could buy/sell a piss ant like you a thousand times over.
That's a very very poor argument.
Oh! I understand. Billionaires are not only trustworthy, but beyond reproach and investigation. They are in a class of law and ethics we should never question.No. These are the issues that frame the presidency. Surely had Sec. Clinton won, you and your ilk would have serious questions about her character and alleged actions. Your blind loyalty to Trump is what keeps you from understanding the serious nature of these issues.Those are the "greater issues" only to douche bags that hate Trump.Can you move your narrow focus to the greater issues? Trump's taxes, his foreign entanglements and his lack of a mandate.Trump won a majority of the vote required to get elected. You fucking morons keep bringing up the overall popular vote. Do the individual grades in a student's class have anything to do with the individual grades in their other classes?
I have plenty more reasons to hate Trump. But his finances and his foreign entanglements are the prime issues that hobble his presidency and call it into legitimate question.
I had serious concerns about her character before she ever announced she was running.
He's worth billions and could buy/sell a piss ant like you a thousand times over.
That's a very very poor argument.
Where's your logic? Trump is your boy and should not have any ethics questions because they could be politically damaging, but allegations against your political opposition should be followed by automatic conviction?Are you saying that the allegations against Sec. Clinton were baseless, non-criminal and politically motivated? Because that's what your saying about the allegations against Trump.Wrong, they're just part of the douche bag campaign to destroy Trump. They don't "frame" anything other than your dishonesty, hypocrisy and general sleaziness.No. These are the issues that frame the presidency. Surely had Sec. Clinton won, you and your ilk would have serious questions about her character and alleged actions. Your blind loyalty to Trump is what keeps you from understanding the serious nature of these issues.Those are the "greater issues" only to douche bags that hate Trump.
I have plenty more reasons to hate Trump. But his finances and his foreign entanglements are the prime issues that hobble his presidency and call it into legitimate question.
You didn't give a damn about Clinton selling her office to foreign governments for personal gain, so why should anyone care about Trump's so-called "foreign entanglements? If Trump took a vacation to the South of France, you would claim he was conspiring with the French government.
You didn't care about Clinton using her CGI to gather in vast sums of foreign cash, so your claims about Trump's finances are obviously bogus.
You can't have it both ways.
Horseshit. Where is the rule that says if allegations against one candidate are true then allegations against another are true? That's the kind of idiot "logic" that left wingers specialize in.
Circle the wagons, boys! And get the hypocrisy ready to defend ourselves! The idiot's defense.
He seems to have a predilection for using the straw man argument.Oh! I understand. Billionaires are not only trustworthy, but beyond reproach and investigation. They are in a class of law and ethics we should never question.No. These are the issues that frame the presidency. Surely had Sec. Clinton won, you and your ilk would have serious questions about her character and alleged actions. Your blind loyalty to Trump is what keeps you from understanding the serious nature of these issues.Those are the "greater issues" only to douche bags that hate Trump.Can you move your narrow focus to the greater issues? Trump's taxes, his foreign entanglements and his lack of a mandate.
I have plenty more reasons to hate Trump. But his finances and his foreign entanglements are the prime issues that hobble his presidency and call it into legitimate question.
I had serious concerns about her character before she ever announced she was running.
He's worth billions and could buy/sell a piss ant like you a thousand times over.
That's a very very poor argument.
That's not what I said. I said you're such a meaningless piss ant that buying/selling you doesn't cost much.
But it does not endow special powers and privileges.Being a billionaire doesn't automatically make you a criminal, as douche bags like you believe.Oh! I understand. Billionaires are not only trustworthy, but beyond reproach and investigation. They are in a class of law and ethics we should never question.No. These are the issues that frame the presidency. Surely had Sec. Clinton won, you and your ilk would have serious questions about her character and alleged actions. Your blind loyalty to Trump is what keeps you from understanding the serious nature of these issues.Those are the "greater issues" only to douche bags that hate Trump.Can you move your narrow focus to the greater issues? Trump's taxes, his foreign entanglements and his lack of a mandate.
I have plenty more reasons to hate Trump. But his finances and his foreign entanglements are the prime issues that hobble his presidency and call it into legitimate question.
I had serious concerns about her character before she ever announced she was running.
He's worth billions and could buy/sell a piss ant like you a thousand times over.
That's a very very poor argument.
I'm still an American. And, as such, I have the right to question authority be it wealth or political.Oh! I understand. Billionaires are not only trustworthy, but beyond reproach and investigation. They are in a class of law and ethics we should never question.No. These are the issues that frame the presidency. Surely had Sec. Clinton won, you and your ilk would have serious questions about her character and alleged actions. Your blind loyalty to Trump is what keeps you from understanding the serious nature of these issues.Those are the "greater issues" only to douche bags that hate Trump.Can you move your narrow focus to the greater issues? Trump's taxes, his foreign entanglements and his lack of a mandate.
I have plenty more reasons to hate Trump. But his finances and his foreign entanglements are the prime issues that hobble his presidency and call it into legitimate question.
I had serious concerns about her character before she ever announced she was running.
He's worth billions and could buy/sell a piss ant like you a thousand times over.
That's a very very poor argument.
That's not what I said. I said you're such a meaningless piss ant that buying/selling you doesn't cost much.
Who said it did?But it does not endow special powers and privileges.Being a billionaire doesn't automatically make you a criminal, as douche bags like you believe.Oh! I understand. Billionaires are not only trustworthy, but beyond reproach and investigation. They are in a class of law and ethics we should never question.No. These are the issues that frame the presidency. Surely had Sec. Clinton won, you and your ilk would have serious questions about her character and alleged actions. Your blind loyalty to Trump is what keeps you from understanding the serious nature of these issues.Those are the "greater issues" only to douche bags that hate Trump.
I have plenty more reasons to hate Trump. But his finances and his foreign entanglements are the prime issues that hobble his presidency and call it into legitimate question.
I had serious concerns about her character before she ever announced she was running.
He's worth billions and could buy/sell a piss ant like you a thousand times over.
That's a very very poor argument.
so is the information from the emails flawed? Or is it worth for the public to know about the corruption. So you prefer corrupted leaders of your own country?It's a difficult task mostly impossible that you put before me. I'm not privy to all the info those 17 agencies accusing russia and putin of hacking our system are BUT we do know repubs were using the hacked e mails against her and we do know repubs are slime balls that will go to the bottom of the barrel to achieve their aimsI'll ask again, how?No one illegitimate kaz Even if Russia lent a helping hand? are repubs and putin all buddy buddy now??Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017
It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.
Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration
He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.
Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.
But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.
No one is illegitimate, both Obama and Trump won the electoral college. It was hilarious though how Obama accused himself of being born in Kenya to his publisher. He was the original birther. What a dumb ass.
BTW, he was legit even if he was, his mother was American, he's a natural born American. But what an idiot, who gets their own country of birth wrong?
eddie like every other Democrat can't answer that question.
The question, eddie, is how did what the Russians did harm Hillary? Be specific
perhaps the demoturds shouldn't have put up a candidate that was under investigation by the FBI up for the presidency/ What exactly did Comey do wrong? His fking job? YES!!!and as an aside We also know the huge help Comey of the FBI was to chump opening his yap a week or so before election then saying she was not guilty 2 days before Think that didn't hurt too?
corrupt? trump has been critical of the black senator the pope ,the CIA ,Streep etc etc ONE that hasn't felt his barbed tongue is PUTIN.....america has a sick man coming to our wh a corrupt sick manso is the information from the emails flawed? Or is it worth for the public to know about the corruption. So you prefer corrupted leaders of your own country?It's a difficult task mostly impossible that you put before me. I'm not privy to all the info those 17 agencies accusing russia and putin of hacking our system are BUT we do know repubs were using the hacked e mails against her and we do know repubs are slime balls that will go to the bottom of the barrel to achieve their aimsI'll ask again, how?No one illegitimate kaz Even if Russia lent a helping hand? are repubs and putin all buddy buddy now??No one is illegitimate, both Obama and Trump won the electoral college. It was hilarious though how Obama accused himself of being born in Kenya to his publisher. He was the original birther. What a dumb ass.
BTW, he was legit even if he was, his mother was American, he's a natural born American. But what an idiot, who gets their own country of birth wrong?
eddie like every other Democrat can't answer that question.
The question, eddie, is how did what the Russians did harm Hillary? Be specific
exactly what did the hostile foreign government do? And what did Trump use?Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017
It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.
Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration
He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.
Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.
But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.
What suspicion? Trump won 304 electoral votes according to how the Constitution says the process should occur. Nothing suspicious about that?
Yeah, but the U.S. Constitution doesn't authorize a hostile foreign government to help him do it.
