Why again do leftists NOT want this country secure the borders?

I always forget the reasons. Why is that? Do they have any sort of rational explanations whatsoever?

Let us see if they can say anything that is not utilizing victimology.

Anything.

Liberals want secure borders. They just do not believe that a wall across the Mexican border will provide security.

In fact, a wall would be as STALINISTIC as hell. We got rid of the Berlin Wall not so long ago and now wingnuts want us to build wall that makes the Berlin wall look insignificant. Besides a wall may look impressive, but it probably will not stop much illegal immigration.

Negotiate 'Comprehensive Immigration Reform' that would be restructure our current immigration system combined with new immigration policies. It would be negotiated between Republicans and Democrats. Since the Republicans hold the majority power in Washington, they would get the majority say. Make laws that prevent illegals from benefiting from government programs.

In short, a wall is a stupid idea. It will not solve the issue. The Republicans refuse to really fix the problem through immigration reform because the Republicans gain a huge political following by complaining about immigrants - they have no intention of fixing the problem.
 
The typical liberal doesn't know why they're doing it. They'll suggest it represents freedom and that's how our country was built. It's interesting how they declare they're progressive when they can't even calculate changes in dynamics.

The real reason is for every brown the left feels they gain votes and power. That's the short-term goal. The long term goal is a one world communist government under the disguise of socialism.
 
I always forget the reasons. Why is that? Do they have any sort of rational explanations whatsoever?

Let us see if they can say anything that is not utilizing victimology.

Anything.

Liberals want secure borders. They just do not believe that a wall across the Mexican border will provide security.

In fact, a wall would be as STALINISTIC as hell. We got rid of the Berlin Wall not so long ago and now wingnuts want us to build wall that makes the Berlin wall look insignificant. Besides a wall may look impressive, but it probably will not stop much illegal immigration.

Negotiate 'Comprehensive Immigration Reform' that would be restructure our current immigration system combined with new immigration policies. It would be negotiated between Republicans and Democrats. Since the Republicans hold the majority power in Washington, they would get the majority say. Make laws that prevent illegals from benefiting from government programs.

In short, a wall is a stupid idea. It will not solve the issue. The Republicans refuse to really fix the problem through immigration reform because the Republicans gain a huge political following by complaining about immigrants - they have no intention of fixing the problem.
How do you feel about sanctuary cities?
.
 

Why is the president elect backing away from building that promised wall? It was his main goal during the campaign, and the cost doesn't matter, because Mexico will pay for it. Will you demand he keeps his promise?
He still wants a wall, but like a smart man he listened to his advisors and realized some spots a fence would do. Unlike the man child you support.

So he didn't know what he was talking about and he was just making shit up to make his supporters happy? Of course, we will be receiving a check from Mexico soon, though, right?
Obama didn't keep half of his campaign promises, you still polished his knob for almost eight years.


Yes. Republicans did block a lot of his efforts. Opposing him was their stated #1 goal after all. The difference is that Trump is backing off of his promises with no opposition at all.

Which of his policies did Republicans stop?
 
I always forget the reasons. Why is that? Do they have any sort of rational explanations whatsoever?

Let us see if they can say anything that is not utilizing victimology.

Anything.

Liberals want secure borders. They just do not believe that a wall across the Mexican border will provide security.

In fact, a wall would be as STALINISTIC as hell. We got rid of the Berlin Wall not so long ago and now wingnuts want us to build wall that makes the Berlin wall look insignificant. Besides a wall may look impressive, but it probably will not stop much illegal immigration.

Negotiate 'Comprehensive Immigration Reform' that would be restructure our current immigration system combined with new immigration policies. It would be negotiated between Republicans and Democrats. Since the Republicans hold the majority power in Washington, they would get the majority say. Make laws that prevent illegals from benefiting from government programs.

In short, a wall is a stupid idea. It will not solve the issue. The Republicans refuse to really fix the problem through immigration reform because the Republicans gain a huge political following by complaining about immigrants - they have no intention of fixing the problem.
How do you feel about sanctuary cities?
.

I'm against sanctuary cities. Instead it would be better for a comprehensive immigration policies that allowed the States to somewhat set their own quotas on immigrants. The States could then allow individual municipalities to set their own quotas, within the States quotas.

It's all a matter of getting immigration under control thru realistic means. If you don't have a realistic comprehensive immigration policy it means that the whole system is broken...in a way no one should complain about illegal immigration until a comprehensive policy is created. The system is broken, it needs to be fixed. A comprehensive immigration policy is the right way to start.
 
I don't see any answers yet.
Border patrol agents with 'shoot to kill' orders will be part of the answer.

Do you really think that illegal immigration should be punishable by death????

In western civilization we've believed that punishment should be scaled according to the crime.

Islamic fundamentalists and Chinese communists are the ones that believe any infraction should be punishable far beyond the scale of the crime, including the death penalty for minor crimes.

Geez, how Islamic of you!
 
I always forget the reasons. Why is that? Do they have any sort of rational explanations whatsoever?

Let us see if they can say anything that is not utilizing victimology.

Anything.

Who doesn't want secure borders?

Specifically.
 
I don't see any answers yet.
Border patrol agents with 'shoot to kill' orders will be part of the answer.

Do you really think that illegal immigration should be punishable by death????

In western civilization we've believed that punishment should be scaled according to the crime.

Islamic fundamentalists and Chinese communists are the ones that believe any infraction should be punishable far beyond the scale of the crime, including the death penalty for minor crimes.

Geez, how Islamic of you!
You enter my home uninvited are there illegally. Period. I have no idea what your motives are.
You come my country illegally you have broken the law.
We have no idea who's entering illegally or what their motives are except 100% of them are going to end up getting 'free shit' paid for by the hard working 'Makers.......including hard working legal Latinos or they are going to attempt to displace legal worker's jobs by working for half price.
Either way they have NO RIGHT to break the law then expect to be taken care of.
Open fire on a few dozen and we'll see how many decide to stay in their OWN country and FIX their OWN problems from within!
 
Personally, I don't get the wall thing. Walls are necessary where there's limited space between two sides. We have satellites, electronics, dogs, helicopters and machine guns, what it comes down to is don't pussy-foot around like an Obama-type, put a cap in their ass if they don't follow instructions.

Additionally, before someone is deported they must be identified, even if that involves a chip or branding. They come back then they're incarcerated on the South American dime. If you don't think we can force the issue you're in for a big surprise, because we have a made hand. We just have to have the balls to play it.
 
Trump now thinks that some area's can be just fences...Every single illegal will know those area's and get in anyway...

If he is going to do it, do it right...but that won't happen it is too expensive...
So we should take down that fence around the White House.

You should remove your front door.

They'll just get in anyway.

:lmao:

Trump is getting ready for his 1st day in office..

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I always forget the reasons. Why is that? Do they have any sort of rational explanations whatsoever?

Let us see if they can say anything that is not utilizing victimology.

Anything.

Liberals want secure borders. They just do not believe that a wall across the Mexican border will provide security.

In fact, a wall would be as STALINISTIC as hell. We got rid of the Berlin Wall not so long ago and now wingnuts want us to build wall that makes the Berlin wall look insignificant. Besides a wall may look impressive, but it probably will not stop much illegal immigration.

Negotiate 'Comprehensive Immigration Reform' that would be restructure our current immigration system combined with new immigration policies. It would be negotiated between Republicans and Democrats. Since the Republicans hold the majority power in Washington, they would get the majority say. Make laws that prevent illegals from benefiting from government programs.

In short, a wall is a stupid idea. It will not solve the issue. The Republicans refuse to really fix the problem through immigration reform because the Republicans gain a huge political following by complaining about immigrants - they have no intention of fixing the problem.
How do you feel about sanctuary cities?
.

I'm against sanctuary cities. Instead it would be better for a comprehensive immigration policies that allowed the States to somewhat set their own quotas on immigrants. The States could then allow individual municipalities to set their own quotas, within the States quotas.

It's all a matter of getting immigration under control thru realistic means. If you don't have a realistic comprehensive immigration policy it means that the whole system is broken...in a way no one should complain about illegal immigration until a comprehensive policy is created. The system is broken, it needs to be fixed. A comprehensive immigration policy is the right way to start.
In a nutshell. The whole system is broken.
 
I always forget the reasons. Why is that? Do they have any sort of rational explanations whatsoever?

Let us see if they can say anything that is not utilizing victimology.

Anything.

Votes

The blacks are onto them and their game they need another demographic to put on their plantation

Reagan passed the largest amnesty bill in this nation's history.

He did it partly to provide Southwestern businesses with ultra-cheap labor, which helped to reverse creeping unionization in agricultural, food service, and construction.

However, Regan's Amnesty bill (and all those that followed) also serves the propaganda wing, which points at illegals and chants "Borders, Language, Culture."

Win Win.

(Wink wink)
 
I don't see any answers yet.
Border patrol agents with 'shoot to kill' orders will be part of the answer.

Do you really think that illegal immigration should be punishable by death????

In western civilization we've believed that punishment should be scaled according to the crime.

Islamic fundamentalists and Chinese communists are the ones that believe any infraction should be punishable far beyond the scale of the crime, including the death penalty for minor crimes.

Geez, how Islamic of you!
You enter my home uninvited are there illegally. Period. I have no idea what your motives are.
You come my country illegally you have broken the law.
We have no idea who's entering illegally or what their motives are except 100% of them are going to end up getting 'free shit' paid for by the hard working 'Makers.......including hard working legal Latinos or they are going to attempt to displace legal worker's jobs by working for half price.
Either way they have NO RIGHT to break the law then expect to be taken care of.
Open fire on a few dozen and we'll see how many decide to stay in their OWN country and FIX their OWN problems from within!

Maybe you can find some out of work East German border guards.....

Then they will stay at home where they have no options other than abject poverty and destitution.

If they try to change anything in their home countries, then I'm sure that you'll be all for the CIA backed regimes murdering them there.
 
I always forget the reasons. Why is that? Do they have any sort of rational explanations whatsoever?

Let us see if they can say anything that is not utilizing victimology.

Anything.

Votes

The blacks are onto them and their game they need another demographic to put on their plantation

Reagan passed the largest amnesty bill in this nation's history.

He did it partly to provide Southwestern businesses with ultra-cheap labor, which helped to reverse creeping unionization in agricultural, food service, and construction.

However, Regan's Amnesty bill (and all those that followed) also serves the propaganda wing, which points at illegals and chants "Borders, Language, Culture."

Win Win.

(Wink wink)

I realize it's Reagan's fault and if that fails it's Bush's fault, but how many years has it been? You figure the dynamics have since changed?
 
I always forget the reasons. Why is that? Do they have any sort of rational explanations whatsoever?

Let us see if they can say anything that is not utilizing victimology.

Anything.

Votes

The blacks are onto them and their game they need another demographic to put on their plantation

Reagan passed the largest amnesty bill in this nation's history.

He did it partly to provide Southwestern businesses with ultra-cheap labor, which helped to reverse creeping unionization in agricultural, food service, and construction.

However, Regan's Amnesty bill (and all those that followed) also serves the propaganda wing, which points at illegals and chants "Borders, Language, Culture."

Win Win.

(Wink wink)

I realize it's Reagan's fault and if that fails it's Bush's fault, but how many years has it been? You figure the dynamics have since changed?
He is a fucking tea sucking loser who gladly pays taxes to the fucking queen. He is a proud fucking ignorant English dick.
 
I don't see any answers yet.
Border patrol agents with 'shoot to kill' orders will be part of the answer.


No, they won't.
In a year from now YOU drive across the border into Mexico then attempt to sneak into the US on foot. PLEASE!!!!!!!!
Where would you like your belongings sent?



Read carefully, junior: the US Border Patrol is NOT going to "shoot to kill" unarmed civilians trying to cross the border. Grow up.
 

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