Why Do Democrats Want the Poor to Starve Just to Make It Easy for Illegals to Enter?

[danielpalos]

the new world has opportunities?

Only the capitalist ones

What governments don't rely on capitalism to some extent? Simply using fiat money is a capital convenience.

Where does socialism work?

Every successful modern country, like Scandinavia Germany France Australia New Zealand Canada Japan..."we are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ObamaCare passed....

The correct answer is that Socialism doesn't work anywhere, because of the economic calculation problem, and the fact that taxes result in diminishing returns the higher you raise them. The government has no way to measure supply and demand curves, so it results in forced rationing, causing people to get little while the government pays too much, the cost then causes the government to raise taxes, but they end up getting less money the higher they raise it, causing the government to go further and further into debt. The fact that some overbloated governments do better than other overbloated governments is not a method for claiming Socialism works, especially given its colossal number of failures. The fact that some locations have yet to collapse DUE to Socialism does not mean it's working either, especially, again, due to the numerous times it has failed throughout history. Nothing works when centrally planned, it only creates a monopoly, and the fact that government is the holder of that monopoly only makes it worse than a private monopoly(Which only forms due to government interference).

I'd also like to point out that you CLAIM that those specific locations are Socialist, however having centralized Healthcare is a Socialist component, but that doesn't make a place Socialist, Social control of the means of production does. In fact, New Zealand is economically freer than America. Country Rankings: World & Global Economy Rankings on Economic Freedom
So are Canada and New Zealand. You're actually making an argument against Socialism.

With that, I'll give you a handy list of socialist failures:
Afghanistan(Twice), Albania(Three times), Angola, Benin, Bulgaria, Cambodia(Twice), Congo-Brazzaville, Czechoslovakia(twice), Ethiopia(twice), Germany, Hungary, North Korea, Mongolia, Mozambique, Poland, Romania, Somalia, Russia, North Vietnam, South Yemen, Yugoslavia, Venezuela, Greece.

So, even if, hypothetically, you weren't being flat-out dishonest or ignorant, you'd be cherry-picking.

Special pleading, Pumpkin? Social-ism is applied Government.

We have a Command Economy. Congress commands fiscal policy and the Fed commands monetary policy.

 

[Jitss617]

Only the capitalist ones

What governments don't rely on capitalism to some extent? Simply using fiat money is a capital convenience.

Where does socialism work?

Every successful modern country, like Scandinavia Germany France Australia New Zealand Canada Japan..."we are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ObamaCare passed....

The correct answer is that Socialism doesn't work anywhere, because of the economic calculation problem, and the fact that taxes result in diminishing returns the higher you raise them. The government has no way to measure supply and demand curves, so it results in forced rationing, causing people to get little while the government pays too much, the cost then causes the government to raise taxes, but they end up getting less money the higher they raise it, causing the government to go further and further into debt. The fact that some overbloated governments do better than other overbloated governments is not a method for claiming Socialism works, especially given its colossal number of failures. The fact that some locations have yet to collapse DUE to Socialism does not mean it's working either, especially, again, due to the numerous times it has failed throughout history. Nothing works when centrally planned, it only creates a monopoly, and the fact that government is the holder of that monopoly only makes it worse than a private monopoly(Which only forms due to government interference).

I'd also like to point out that you CLAIM that those specific locations are Socialist, however having centralized Healthcare is a Socialist component, but that doesn't make a place Socialist, Social control of the means of production does. In fact, New Zealand is economically freer than America. Country Rankings: World & Global Economy Rankings on Economic Freedom
So are Canada and New Zealand. You're actually making an argument against Socialism.

With that, I'll give you a handy list of socialist failures:
Afghanistan(Twice), Albania(Three times), Angola, Benin, Bulgaria, Cambodia(Twice), Congo-Brazzaville, Czechoslovakia(twice), Ethiopia(twice), Germany, Hungary, North Korea, Mongolia, Mozambique, Poland, Romania, Somalia, Russia, North Vietnam, South Yemen, Yugoslavia, Venezuela, Greece.

So, even if, hypothetically, you weren't being flat-out dishonest or ignorant, you'd be cherry-picking.

Special pleading, Pumpkin? Social-ism is applied Government.

We have a Command Economy. Congress commands fiscal policy and the Fed commands monetary policy.

Where is it working?

 

[danielpalos]

What governments don't rely on capitalism to some extent? Simply using fiat money is a capital convenience.

Where does socialism work?

Every successful modern country, like Scandinavia Germany France Australia New Zealand Canada Japan..."we are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ObamaCare passed....

The correct answer is that Socialism doesn't work anywhere, because of the economic calculation problem, and the fact that taxes result in diminishing returns the higher you raise them. The government has no way to measure supply and demand curves, so it results in forced rationing, causing people to get little while the government pays too much, the cost then causes the government to raise taxes, but they end up getting less money the higher they raise it, causing the government to go further and further into debt. The fact that some overbloated governments do better than other overbloated governments is not a method for claiming Socialism works, especially given its colossal number of failures. The fact that some locations have yet to collapse DUE to Socialism does not mean it's working either, especially, again, due to the numerous times it has failed throughout history. Nothing works when centrally planned, it only creates a monopoly, and the fact that government is the holder of that monopoly only makes it worse than a private monopoly(Which only forms due to government interference).

I'd also like to point out that you CLAIM that those specific locations are Socialist, however having centralized Healthcare is a Socialist component, but that doesn't make a place Socialist, Social control of the means of production does. In fact, New Zealand is economically freer than America. Country Rankings: World & Global Economy Rankings on Economic Freedom
So are Canada and New Zealand. You're actually making an argument against Socialism.

With that, I'll give you a handy list of socialist failures:
Afghanistan(Twice), Albania(Three times), Angola, Benin, Bulgaria, Cambodia(Twice), Congo-Brazzaville, Czechoslovakia(twice), Ethiopia(twice), Germany, Hungary, North Korea, Mongolia, Mozambique, Poland, Romania, Somalia, Russia, North Vietnam, South Yemen, Yugoslavia, Venezuela, Greece.

So, even if, hypothetically, you weren't being flat-out dishonest or ignorant, you'd be cherry-picking.

Special pleading, Pumpkin? Social-ism is applied Government.

We have a Command Economy. Congress commands fiscal policy and the Fed commands monetary policy.

Where is it working?

Everywhere there is Government. AnCap is still vaporware not socialism.

 

[Jitss617]

Where does socialism work?

Every successful modern country, like Scandinavia Germany France Australia New Zealand Canada Japan..."we are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ObamaCare passed....

The correct answer is that Socialism doesn't work anywhere, because of the economic calculation problem, and the fact that taxes result in diminishing returns the higher you raise them. The government has no way to measure supply and demand curves, so it results in forced rationing, causing people to get little while the government pays too much, the cost then causes the government to raise taxes, but they end up getting less money the higher they raise it, causing the government to go further and further into debt. The fact that some overbloated governments do better than other overbloated governments is not a method for claiming Socialism works, especially given its colossal number of failures. The fact that some locations have yet to collapse DUE to Socialism does not mean it's working either, especially, again, due to the numerous times it has failed throughout history. Nothing works when centrally planned, it only creates a monopoly, and the fact that government is the holder of that monopoly only makes it worse than a private monopoly(Which only forms due to government interference).

I'd also like to point out that you CLAIM that those specific locations are Socialist, however having centralized Healthcare is a Socialist component, but that doesn't make a place Socialist, Social control of the means of production does. In fact, New Zealand is economically freer than America. Country Rankings: World & Global Economy Rankings on Economic Freedom
So are Canada and New Zealand. You're actually making an argument against Socialism.

With that, I'll give you a handy list of socialist failures:
Afghanistan(Twice), Albania(Three times), Angola, Benin, Bulgaria, Cambodia(Twice), Congo-Brazzaville, Czechoslovakia(twice), Ethiopia(twice), Germany, Hungary, North Korea, Mongolia, Mozambique, Poland, Romania, Somalia, Russia, North Vietnam, South Yemen, Yugoslavia, Venezuela, Greece.

So, even if, hypothetically, you weren't being flat-out dishonest or ignorant, you'd be cherry-picking.

Special pleading, Pumpkin? Social-ism is applied Government.

We have a Command Economy. Congress commands fiscal policy and the Fed commands monetary policy.

Where is it working?

Everywhere there is Government. AnCap is still vaporware not socialism.

So why are veterans trying to get private care? And no more VA? Why do private schools work better then public? Hmmmm

 

[danielpalos]

Every successful modern country, like Scandinavia Germany France Australia New Zealand Canada Japan..."we are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ObamaCare passed....

The correct answer is that Socialism doesn't work anywhere, because of the economic calculation problem, and the fact that taxes result in diminishing returns the higher you raise them. The government has no way to measure supply and demand curves, so it results in forced rationing, causing people to get little while the government pays too much, the cost then causes the government to raise taxes, but they end up getting less money the higher they raise it, causing the government to go further and further into debt. The fact that some overbloated governments do better than other overbloated governments is not a method for claiming Socialism works, especially given its colossal number of failures. The fact that some locations have yet to collapse DUE to Socialism does not mean it's working either, especially, again, due to the numerous times it has failed throughout history. Nothing works when centrally planned, it only creates a monopoly, and the fact that government is the holder of that monopoly only makes it worse than a private monopoly(Which only forms due to government interference).

I'd also like to point out that you CLAIM that those specific locations are Socialist, however having centralized Healthcare is a Socialist component, but that doesn't make a place Socialist, Social control of the means of production does. In fact, New Zealand is economically freer than America. Country Rankings: World & Global Economy Rankings on Economic Freedom
So are Canada and New Zealand. You're actually making an argument against Socialism.

With that, I'll give you a handy list of socialist failures:
Afghanistan(Twice), Albania(Three times), Angola, Benin, Bulgaria, Cambodia(Twice), Congo-Brazzaville, Czechoslovakia(twice), Ethiopia(twice), Germany, Hungary, North Korea, Mongolia, Mozambique, Poland, Romania, Somalia, Russia, North Vietnam, South Yemen, Yugoslavia, Venezuela, Greece.

So, even if, hypothetically, you weren't being flat-out dishonest or ignorant, you'd be cherry-picking.

Special pleading, Pumpkin? Social-ism is applied Government.

We have a Command Economy. Congress commands fiscal policy and the Fed commands monetary policy.

Where is it working?

Everywhere there is Government. AnCap is still vaporware not socialism.

So why are veterans trying to get private care? And no more VA? Why do private schools work better then public? Hmmmm

Social services are usually providers of last resort. They cover those the private sector won't.

 

[Jitss617]

The correct answer is that Socialism doesn't work anywhere, because of the economic calculation problem, and the fact that taxes result in diminishing returns the higher you raise them. The government has no way to measure supply and demand curves, so it results in forced rationing, causing people to get little while the government pays too much, the cost then causes the government to raise taxes, but they end up getting less money the higher they raise it, causing the government to go further and further into debt. The fact that some overbloated governments do better than other overbloated governments is not a method for claiming Socialism works, especially given its colossal number of failures. The fact that some locations have yet to collapse DUE to Socialism does not mean it's working either, especially, again, due to the numerous times it has failed throughout history. Nothing works when centrally planned, it only creates a monopoly, and the fact that government is the holder of that monopoly only makes it worse than a private monopoly(Which only forms due to government interference).

I'd also like to point out that you CLAIM that those specific locations are Socialist, however having centralized Healthcare is a Socialist component, but that doesn't make a place Socialist, Social control of the means of production does. In fact, New Zealand is economically freer than America. Country Rankings: World & Global Economy Rankings on Economic Freedom
So are Canada and New Zealand. You're actually making an argument against Socialism.

With that, I'll give you a handy list of socialist failures:
Afghanistan(Twice), Albania(Three times), Angola, Benin, Bulgaria, Cambodia(Twice), Congo-Brazzaville, Czechoslovakia(twice), Ethiopia(twice), Germany, Hungary, North Korea, Mongolia, Mozambique, Poland, Romania, Somalia, Russia, North Vietnam, South Yemen, Yugoslavia, Venezuela, Greece.

So, even if, hypothetically, you weren't being flat-out dishonest or ignorant, you'd be cherry-picking.

Special pleading, Pumpkin? Social-ism is applied Government.

We have a Command Economy. Congress commands fiscal policy and the Fed commands monetary policy.

Where is it working?

Everywhere there is Government. AnCap is still vaporware not socialism.

So why are veterans trying to get private care? And no more VA? Why do private schools work better then public? Hmmmm

Social services are usually providers of last resort. They cover those the private sector won't.

So flood the country with poor people so it can get larger?

 

[deanrd]

Republicans caring about the poor? That’s hilarious! Who could possibly believe that?

 

[Jitss617]

Republicans caring about the poor? That’s hilarious! Who could possibly believe that?

Care or allow them to live freely? Unlike democrats who have urban slave plantations

 

[Thinker101]

Republicans caring about the poor? That’s hilarious! Who could possibly believe that?

Poor Americans...

 

[danielpalos]

Special pleading, Pumpkin? Social-ism is applied Government.

We have a Command Economy. Congress commands fiscal policy and the Fed commands monetary policy.

Where is it working?

Everywhere there is Government. AnCap is still vaporware not socialism.

So why are veterans trying to get private care? And no more VA? Why do private schools work better then public? Hmmmm

Social services are usually providers of last resort. They cover those the private sector won't.

So flood the country with poor people so it can get larger?

abolish your wars on crime, drugs, and terror and stop creating refugees. Capitalism is supposed to improve our Standard of Living.

 

[danielpalos]

Republicans caring about the poor? That’s hilarious! Who could possibly believe that?

We could have solved simple poverty Yesterday in a market friendly manner using existing infrastructure.

The right wing objects, Because the Poor may benefit.

 

[danielpalos]

Republicans caring about the poor? That’s hilarious! Who could possibly believe that?

Care or allow them to live freely? Unlike democrats who have urban slave plantations

solve simple poverty in a market friendly manner and let market participants choose what is best for them at any given time.

 

[danielpalos]

Republicans caring about the poor? That’s hilarious! Who could possibly believe that?

Poor Americans...

woe is we; if only, the Poor were worth equal protection of law under our form of Capitalism.

 

[Thinker101]

Republicans caring about the poor? That’s hilarious! Who could possibly believe that?

Poor Americans...

woe is we; if only, the Poor were worth equal protection of law under our form of Capitalism.

Sorry to hear you're not getting your "fair share" of free shit.

 

[Jitss617]

Where is it working?

Everywhere there is Government. AnCap is still vaporware not socialism.

So why are veterans trying to get private care? And no more VA? Why do private schools work better then public? Hmmmm

Social services are usually providers of last resort. They cover those the private sector won't.

So flood the country with poor people so it can get larger?

abolish your wars on crime, drugs, and terror and stop creating refugees. Capitalism is supposed to improve our Standard of Living.

Only way to stop war on drugs is have a necular family, and welfare destroys the family. We have enough needy refugees we need more that can produce not take thanks

 

[deanrd]

Republicans caring about the poor? That’s hilarious! Who could possibly believe that?

Care or allow them to live freely? Unlike democrats who have urban slave plantations

How is that even possible?

 

[deanrd]

When it comes to whether or not Republicans care for the poor I have one word. Appalachia.
If Republicans don’t even care about other Republicans, then why would they care about anyone? Except billionaires and millionaires. That goes without saying.

 

[Jitss617]

Republicans caring about the poor? That’s hilarious! Who could possibly believe that?

Care or allow them to live freely? Unlike democrats who have urban slave plantations

How is that even possible?

I don’t and never want my politician to care about me their job is to uphold the constitution that provides me with the opportunity if I want to live a very good life. Take your feeling and leave them at home slave owners

 

[Jitss617]

When it comes to whether or not Republicans care for the poor I have one word. Appalachia.
If Republicans don’t even care about other Republicans, then why would they care about anyone? Except billionaires and millionaires. That goes without saying.

I live in democrat run Boston the only people that aren’t allowed to have the opportunity to live freely are the poor, democrats have put barriers up on housing with building codes and cost restrictions that keep the poor unable to be entrepreneurs. Unions have destroyed private jobs, and bad education has caused to poor not to protest the bad guy the democrat party

 

[danielpalos]

Republicans caring about the poor? That’s hilarious! Who could possibly believe that?

Poor Americans...

woe is we; if only, the Poor were worth equal protection of law under our form of Capitalism.

Sorry to hear you're not getting your "fair share" of free shit.

equal protection of the law?