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I am comparing national registries of things that aren't any of the government's business.
Like, for example, a national registry where my name was in during the Vietnam draft???
Talk to me about what would have happened to these groups have they tried to register their firearms
1- Jews in NAZI Germany
2- Palestinians in NAZI Israel
3- Afro-Americans deep south 1860's
4- Liberals during Pinochet's regime
5- Cambodians during the PolPot regime
6- Russians during the Stalin regime
7- ad nauseam
Well, let's see. HItler confiscated all guns. PInochet confiscated all guns. Pol Pot confiscated all guns.mStalin confiscated all guns. Israel is NOT Nazi and you are obviously a Palestinian fan. Blacks were not allowed to own weapons until the proclamation. I'm black and have owned weapons since I was a boy 65 years ago.
Did they have registrations ?
We have the 2nd amendment , the courts, the NRA . This confiscation claim is tin foil hat territory .
.The primary reason for the 2nd Amendment was to secure "the people's" right to protect themselves and their States against a tyrannical government should the need to do so ever arise.
Given that context, what sense does it make for "the people" to register their firearms with a government that they may one day have to defend themselves against?
You're entitled to some form of opinion...albeit a bit uninformed.....However,
The 2nd amendment was mostly written to prevent the expense of the central government having a standing army (thereby relying on a militia) in case of both foreign invasions......the putting down of rebellions (look up the Shays Rebellion in Mass.) among citizens who were against taxation, slaves or Indian tribes.....and to basically have the Founders (who were all men of means) have....if needed... at the ready an almost mercenary force to quell uprisings.
In short......The Founders were NOT calling for an armed citizen militia to commit treason against the newly formed federal government, but to have that militia at the ready to fight off rebellions since the federal government did not have the money for a standing army.
The primary reason for the 2nd Amendment was to secure "the people's" right to protect themselves and their States against a tyrannical government should the need to do so ever arise.
Given that context, what sense does it make for "the people" to register their firearms with a government that they may one day have to defend themselves against?
You're entitled to some form of opinion...albeit a bit uninformed.....However,
The 2nd amendment was mostly written to prevent the expense of the central government having a standing army (thereby relying on a militia) in case of both foreign invasions......the putting down of rebellions (look up the Shays Rebellion in Mass.) among citizens who were against taxation, slaves or Indian tribes.....and to basically have the Founders (who were all men of means) have....if needed... at the ready an almost mercenary force to quell uprisings.
In short......The Founders were NOT calling for an armed citizen militia to commit treason against the newly formed federal government, but to have that militia at the ready to fight off rebellions since the federal government did not have the money for a standing army.
You are wrong again.
Ratification and the Bill of Rights
"The Convention had decided that the Constitution would take effect upon ratification by conventions in nine of the 13 states. By June 1788 the required nine states ratified the Constitution, but the large states of Virginia and New York had not. Most people felt that without the support of these two states, the Constitution would never be honored. To many, the document seemed full of dangers: would not the strong central government that it established tyrannize them, oppress them with heavy taxes and drag them into wars?"
"Antipathy toward a strong central government was only one concern among those opposed to the Constitution; of equal concern to many was the fear that the Constitution did not protect individual rights and freedoms sufficiently."
The primary reason for the 2nd Amendment was to secure "the people's" right to protect themselves and their States against a tyrannical government should the need to do so ever arise.
Given that context, what sense does it make for "the people" to register their firearms with a government that they may one day have to defend themselves against?
You're entitled to some form of opinion...albeit a bit uninformed.....However,
The 2nd amendment was mostly written to prevent the expense of the central government having a standing army (thereby relying on a militia) in case of both foreign invasions......the putting down of rebellions (look up the Shays Rebellion in Mass.) among citizens who were against taxation, slaves or Indian tribes.....and to basically have the Founders (who were all men of means) have....if needed... at the ready an almost mercenary force to quell uprisings.
In short......The Founders were NOT calling for an armed citizen militia to commit treason against the newly formed federal government, but to have that militia at the ready to fight off rebellions since the federal government did not have the money for a standing army.
You are wrong again.
Ratification and the Bill of Rights
"The Convention had decided that the Constitution would take effect upon ratification by conventions in nine of the 13 states. By June 1788 the required nine states ratified the Constitution, but the large states of Virginia and New York had not. Most people felt that without the support of these two states, the Constitution would never be honored. To many, the document seemed full of dangers: would not the strong central government that it established tyrannize them, oppress them with heavy taxes and drag them into wars?"
"Antipathy toward a strong central government was only one concern among those opposed to the Constitution; of equal concern to many was the fear that the Constitution did not protect individual rights and freedoms sufficiently."
What you cut-n-pasted is nice but has little to do with what I wrote.......
Besides, since we HAVE been dragged into stupid and wasteful wars AND have been overtaxed.....where the hell are you guys with your beautiful guns defending us from such tyranny???LOL
Think about it....We register our cars...we register to vote....we used to register for the draft, etc. AND, gun enthusiasts on here simply LOVE to flaunt their knowledge of their guns, calibers, magazines, eta l......
YET, mention to them that they should register their weapons to a centralized data base, and they go ballistic (pardon the expression.)
Guns aren't registered now?
The primary reason for the 2nd Amendment was to secure "the people's" right to protect themselves and their States against a tyrannical government should the need to do so ever arise.
Given that context, what sense does it make for "the people" to register their firearms with a government that they may one day have to defend themselves against?
You're entitled to some form of opinion...albeit a bit uninformed.....However,
The 2nd amendment was mostly written to prevent the expense of the central government having a standing army (thereby relying on a militia) in case of both foreign invasions......the putting down of rebellions (look up the Shays Rebellion in Mass.) among citizens who were against taxation, slaves or Indian tribes.....and to basically have the Founders (who were all men of means) have....if needed... at the ready an almost mercenary force to quell uprisings.
In short......The Founders were NOT calling for an armed citizen militia to commit treason against the newly formed federal government, but to have that militia at the ready to fight off rebellions since the federal government did not have the money for a standing army.
You are wrong again.
Ratification and the Bill of Rights
"The Convention had decided that the Constitution would take effect upon ratification by conventions in nine of the 13 states. By June 1788 the required nine states ratified the Constitution, but the large states of Virginia and New York had not. Most people felt that without the support of these two states, the Constitution would never be honored. To many, the document seemed full of dangers: would not the strong central government that it established tyrannize them, oppress them with heavy taxes and drag them into wars?"
"Antipathy toward a strong central government was only one concern among those opposed to the Constitution; of equal concern to many was the fear that the Constitution did not protect individual rights and freedoms sufficiently."
What you cut-n-pasted is nice but has little to do with what I wrote.......
Besides, since we HAVE been dragged into stupid and wasteful wars AND have been overtaxed.....where the hell are you guys with your beautiful guns defending us from such tyranny???LOL
Why? I'm armed. You're the one who's going to get screwed up.
Armed against the federal government??? That's bordering on the definition of treason.....
Proving yet again, how blissfully ignorant you are. Here's what a couple of Presidents had to say on teh subject. I'll go with thei opinion instead of some ignorant jackass like you.
"A little rebellion now and then is a good thing and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical."
THOMAS JEFFERSON, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787
"Any people anywhere being inclined and having the power have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better.
ABRAHAM LINCOLN, speech in the United States House of Representatives, January 12, 1848"
Read more at Revolution Quotes
Hey moron....you're pulling those quotes from a place that openly states "REVOLUTION"......Do you want and hanker for a revolution??? Ready to storm the dark skinned president with your militia to form a government that SUITS you better?...
The primary reason for the 2nd Amendment was to secure "the people's" right to protect themselves and their States against a tyrannical government should the need to do so ever arise.
Given that context, what sense does it make for "the people" to register their firearms with a government that they may one day have to defend themselves against?
You're entitled to some form of opinion...albeit a bit uninformed.....However,
The 2nd amendment was mostly written to prevent the expense of the central government having a standing army (thereby relying on a militia) in case of both foreign invasions......the putting down of rebellions (look up the Shays Rebellion in Mass.) among citizens who were against taxation, slaves or Indian tribes.....and to basically have the Founders (who were all men of means) have....if needed... at the ready an almost mercenary force to quell uprisings.
In short......The Founders were NOT calling for an armed citizen militia to commit treason against the newly formed federal government, but to have that militia at the ready to fight off rebellions since the federal government did not have the money for a standing army.
You are wrong again.
Ratification and the Bill of Rights
"The Convention had decided that the Constitution would take effect upon ratification by conventions in nine of the 13 states. By June 1788 the required nine states ratified the Constitution, but the large states of Virginia and New York had not. Most people felt that without the support of these two states, the Constitution would never be honored. To many, the document seemed full of dangers: would not the strong central government that it established tyrannize them, oppress them with heavy taxes and drag them into wars?"
"Antipathy toward a strong central government was only one concern among those opposed to the Constitution; of equal concern to many was the fear that the Constitution did not protect individual rights and freedoms sufficiently."
What you cut-n-pasted is nice but has little to do with what I wrote.......
Besides, since we HAVE been dragged into stupid and wasteful wars AND have been overtaxed.....where the hell are you guys with your beautiful guns defending us from such tyranny???LOL
Why? I'm armed. You're the one who's going to get screwed up.
Armed against the federal government??? That's bordering on the definition of treason.....
Proving yet again, how blissfully ignorant you are. Here's what a couple of Presidents had to say on teh subject. I'll go with thei opinion instead of some ignorant jackass like you.
"A little rebellion now and then is a good thing and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical."
THOMAS JEFFERSON, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787
"Any people anywhere being inclined and having the power have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better.
ABRAHAM LINCOLN, speech in the United States House of Representatives, January 12, 1848"
Read more at Revolution Quotes
Hey moron....you're pulling those quotes from a place that openly states "REVOLUTION"......Do you want and hanker for a revolution??? Ready to storm the dark skinned president with your militia to form a government that SUITS you better?...
You are, without doubt, the most stupid person that I have ever read, on any forum.
Barry Obama has been president for nearly a full 8 years. This losers time is over. He will leave office and give $200,000 speeches for the rest of his miserable life. Who cares? The dipshit is all but history.
It's the next president (assuming that Hillary the murderer wins) that this country will have to fear. She will finish this country off, once and for all.
And you worthless, no good, America hating assholes will rejoice in the streets. And Yes - I'm refering to you.
Why? I'm armed. You're the one who's going to get screwed up.
Armed against the federal government??? That's bordering on the definition of treason.....
Proving yet again, how blissfully ignorant you are. Here's what a couple of Presidents had to say on teh subject. I'll go with thei opinion instead of some ignorant jackass like you.
"A little rebellion now and then is a good thing and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical."
THOMAS JEFFERSON, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787
"Any people anywhere being inclined and having the power have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better.
ABRAHAM LINCOLN, speech in the United States House of Representatives, January 12, 1848"
Read more at Revolution Quotes
Hey moron....you're pulling those quotes from a place that openly states "REVOLUTION"......Do you want and hanker for a revolution??? Ready to storm the dark skinned president with your militia to form a government that SUITS you better?...
You are, without doubt, the most stupid person that I have ever read, on any forum.
Barry Obama has been president for nearly a full 8 years. This losers time is over. He will leave office and give $200,000 speeches for the rest of his miserable life. Who cares? The dipshit is all but history.
It's the next president (assuming that Hillary the murderer wins) that this country will have to fear. She will finish this country off, once and for all.
And you worthless, no good, America hating assholes will rejoice in the streets. And Yes - I'm refering to you.
They will up until Aman Hussinie Aukbar shoots their ass's.
Hey nat, the law is still that an 18 year old male registers with selective service. Just giving a public service reminder.
I never said OTHERWISE....Do you folks just write dumb posts for sexual gratification?
Think about it....We register our cars...we register to vote....we used to register for the draft, etc. AND, gun enthusiasts on here simply LOVE to flaunt their knowledge of their guns, calibers, magazines, eta l......
YET, mention to them that they should register their weapons to a centralized data base, and they go ballistic (pardon the expression.)
Think about it....We register our cars...we register to vote....we used to register for the draft, etc. AND, gun enthusiasts on here simply LOVE to flaunt their knowledge of their guns, calibers, magazines, eta l......
YET, mention to them that they should register their weapons to a centralized data base, and they go ballistic (pardon the expression.)
The Government has no fucking business knowing what I own.
Actually , guns WERE registered in colonial times, because every white male was required to have one.
Actually , guns WERE registered in colonial times, because every white male was required to have one.
That came across to me as being like the colonial equivalent of Obamacare. I did a Google search and found this:
Spiking the Gun Myth Before the Civil War, a historian finds, guns were rare in the United States
Spiking the Gun Myth
I won't attest to it, but again, being forced to own something seemed a bit too much like the government taxing folks for not having health insurance.
All of which you progressives are trying to destroy. And when you finally succeed, as you most certainly will, then the country will begin the final fall towards a dictatorship and the guns will be the first thing confiscated.
Hope you took canned goods under your bed with you.
Because registration leads to confiscation.
How truly, TRULY stupid......Are you morons really thinking that the federal government wants your weapons to ENSLAVE you? That storm troopers are going to search ans seize the guns of all who have registered them?
.....and if even in your moronic scenario were to happen, YOU are going to fight off the army and air force from your bedroom window?
