Why do people hate Liberals?

[Bfgrn]

Liberal propaganda

Liberal propaganda is the use of distorted media coverage, half truths, deceit, liberal denial, and liberal bias to promote liberal political goals, such as gay marriage and the legalization of drugs- which are contrary to a pure moral nation.

Liberal propaganda can also take the form of inspirational images designed to portray liberal politicians in a positive light. For example, in his campaign for the Presidency, Barack Hussein Obama used artistically rendered images that sought to portray him as the center of a cult of personality.[1] This is disturbingly similar to the propaganda used by atheistic communist leaders.

Other examples include:

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Yup.

Yea...Mao agrees with you right wingers...

What Mao Zedong said about liberalism

革命的集体组织中的自由主义是十分有害的。它是一种腐蚀剂，使团结涣散，关系松懈，工作消极，意见分歧。它使革命队伍失掉严密的组织和纪律，政策不能贯彻到底，党的组织和党所领导的群众发生隔离。这是一种严重的恶劣倾向。

"Liberalism is extremely harmful in a revolutionary collective. It is a corrosive which eats away unity, undermines cohesion, causes apathy and creates dissension.

It robs the revolutionary ranks of compact organization and strict discipline, prevents policies from being carried through and alienates the Party organizations from the masses which the Party leads."

Selected Works of Mao Tse-tung - Combat Liberalism

 

[zonly1]

The one thing about this board that most baffles me is the incredible depth of hatred and contempt for liberals.

The amount of comments from people suggesting all liberals are stupid, anti-patriotic, dumb...you name it. One even suggested liberals don't know what paragraphs are.

I don't get it. And I don't see anything the like the contempt expressed by liberals towards conservatives.

Firstly, the term "liberal" could be used to describe about half of the planet. Like "leftist", it's a fairly cliched catch-all adjective that have little real meaning. It's just too general to be much use.

Secondly, I've met extremely intelligent people from right across the political spectrum - and as many idiots. I've talked to brilliant facists, idiotic conservatives, intelligent communists and brain-dead centrists. I don't see a pattern there at all.

And lastly, why hate liberals when many of the most successful and celebrated administrations have been liberal ones? Were the governments if Clinton, Wilson, FDR, JFK and Truman really so much worse than conservative governments of similar eras?

The constant attacks on liberals seems to me (as an outsider) just a sign of incredible arrogance and conceit - and I would consider attacks on conservatives the same way.

If there is a REAL reason, with facts, for hating liberals - let's hear about it.

Becauses they sell dependency, gov't does a better job vs reliance on self. Funny thing is and it's quit ignorant on the seller, being democRAT, to grow the publics sector when the the private sector props them up through taxation w/o representation. Yes it's the private sector wealth that supports public sectors. Public sectors consumes and destroys wealth produced by the private sector.

 

[FA_Q2]

Liberal propaganda

Liberal propaganda is the use of distorted media coverage, half truths, deceit, liberal denial, and liberal bias to promote liberal political goals, such as gay marriage and the legalization of drugs- which are contrary to a pure moral nation.

Liberal propaganda can also take the form of inspirational images designed to portray liberal politicians in a positive light. For example, in his campaign for the Presidency, Barack Hussein Obama used artistically rendered images that sought to portray him as the center of a cult of personality.[1] This is disturbingly similar to the propaganda used by atheistic communist leaders.

Other examples include:

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Yup.

Yea...Mao agrees with you right wingers...

What Mao Zedong said about liberalism

革命的集体组织中的自由主义是十分有害的。它是一种腐蚀剂，使团结涣散，关系松懈，工作消极，意见分歧。它使革命队伍失掉严密的组织和纪律，政策不能贯彻到底，党的组织和党所领导的群众发生隔离。这是一种严重的恶劣倾向。

"Liberalism is extremely harmful in a revolutionary collective. It is a corrosive which eats away unity, undermines cohesion, causes apathy and creates dissension.

It robs the revolutionary ranks of compact organization and strict discipline, prevents policies from being carried through and alienates the Party organizations from the masses which the Party leads."

Selected Works of Mao Tse-tung - Combat Liberalism

Yup. Since liberalism as he is referring to it has absolutely NOTHING to do with Americans who style themselves liberal or the Democratic Party, your point means nothing.

 

[Bfgrn]

Yup.

Yea...Mao agrees with you right wingers...

What Mao Zedong said about liberalism

革命的集体组织中的自由主义是十分有害的。它是一种腐蚀剂，使团结涣散，关系松懈，工作消极，意见分歧。它使革命队伍失掉严密的组织和纪律，政策不能贯彻到底，党的组织和党所领导的群众发生隔离。这是一种严重的恶劣倾向。

"Liberalism is extremely harmful in a revolutionary collective. It is a corrosive which eats away unity, undermines cohesion, causes apathy and creates dissension.

It robs the revolutionary ranks of compact organization and strict discipline, prevents policies from being carried through and alienates the Party organizations from the masses which the Party leads."

Selected Works of Mao Tse-tung - Combat Liberalism

Yup. Since liberalism as he is referring to it has absolutely NOTHING to do with Americans who style themselves liberal or the Democratic Party, your point means nothing.

False...a Distinguished Senior Fellow of the Cato Institute understands the difference.

Classical liberals assume a natural equality of humans; conservatives assume a natural hierarchy.
James M. Buchanan

And so does the leading researcher on the authoritarian personality...

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

 

[HomeInspect]

I don't hate Liberals. I feel sorry for the clueless

 

[FA_Q2]

Yea...Mao agrees with you right wingers...

What Mao Zedong said about liberalism

革命的集体组织中的自由主义是十分有害的。它是一种腐蚀剂，使团结涣散，关系松懈，工作消极，意见分歧。它使革命队伍失掉严密的组织和纪律，政策不能贯彻到底，党的组织和党所领导的群众发生隔离。这是一种严重的恶劣倾向。

"Liberalism is extremely harmful in a revolutionary collective. It is a corrosive which eats away unity, undermines cohesion, causes apathy and creates dissension.

It robs the revolutionary ranks of compact organization and strict discipline, prevents policies from being carried through and alienates the Party organizations from the masses which the Party leads."

Selected Works of Mao Tse-tung - Combat Liberalism

Yup. Since liberalism as he is referring to it has absolutely NOTHING to do with Americans who style themselves liberal or the Democratic Party, your point means nothing.

False...a Distinguished Senior Fellow of the Cato Institute understands the difference.

Classical liberals assume a natural equality of humans; conservatives assume a natural hierarchy.
James M. Buchanan

And so does the leading researcher on the authoritarian personality...

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

Interesting. I did not say anything whatsoever in my post about conservatives at all. Nor did I mention anything about the right. You, on the other hand, jumped right on the ‘righties are authoritarians.’

Again - Since liberalism as he is referring to it has absolutely NOTHING to do with Americans who style themselves liberal or the Democratic Party, your point means nothing.

Whatever your convoluted mind might think that conservatives and the right are, it has no bearing on what the left is. They are not diametrically opposed as you seem to be eluding. One being fascist does not make the other the beacon of freedom.

 

[tjvh]

Liberal propaganda

Liberal propaganda is the use of distorted media coverage, half truths, deceit, liberal denial, and liberal bias to promote liberal political goals, such as gay marriage and the legalization of drugs- which are contrary to a pure moral nation.

Liberal propaganda can also take the form of inspirational images designed to portray liberal politicians in a positive light. For example, in his campaign for the Presidency, Barack Hussein Obama used artistically rendered images that sought to portray him as the center of a cult of personality.[1] This is disturbingly similar to the propaganda used by atheistic communist leaders.

Other examples include:

---

Yup.

Yea...Mao agrees with you right wingers...

What Mao Zedong said about liberalism

革命的集体组织中的自由主义是十分有害的。它是一种腐蚀剂，使团结涣散，关系松懈，工作消极，意见分歧。它使革命队伍失掉严密的组织和纪律，政策不能贯彻到底，党的组织和党所领导的群众发生隔离。这是一种严重的恶劣倾向。

"Liberalism is extremely harmful in a revolutionary collective. It is a corrosive which eats away unity, undermines cohesion, causes apathy and creates dissension.

It robs the revolutionary ranks of compact organization and strict discipline, prevents policies from being carried through and alienates the Party organizations from the masses which the Party leads."

Selected Works of Mao Tse-tung - Combat Liberalism

Try this Socialist twit... 你他妈的

 

[editec]

The clowns here whose apparent hatred for liberals are childish tools.

They'd hate anybody who they thought society was giving them permission to hate.

Why?

Well these losers are just one of the many unpleasants ways that humans can be.

The stupid and hateful have ALWAYS been with us.

 

[HomeInspect]

The problem is, the left throws around the hate card, just like the race cards, When people don't agree with their ideas, if they can't call it racism, they call it hate.

 

[SillyWabbit]

The problem is, the left throws around the hate card, just like the race cards, When people don't agree with their ideas, if they can't call it racism, they call it hate.

There's a world full of hate floating around. Not everyone buys into it. I think most of us don't buy into it.

What do I know?

 

[Mac1958]

The clowns here whose apparent hatred for liberals are childish tools.

They'd hate anybody who they thought society was giving them permission to hate.

Why?

Well these losers are just one of the many unpleasants ways that humans can be.

The stupid and hateful have ALWAYS been with us.

Sadly, all of the above is true...

... on both ends of the political spectrum.

.

 

[Bfgrn]

Yup. Since liberalism as he is referring to it has absolutely NOTHING to do with Americans who style themselves liberal or the Democratic Party, your point means nothing.

False...a Distinguished Senior Fellow of the Cato Institute understands the difference.

Classical liberals assume a natural equality of humans; conservatives assume a natural hierarchy.
James M. Buchanan

And so does the leading researcher on the authoritarian personality...

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

Interesting. I did not say anything whatsoever in my post about conservatives at all. Nor did I mention anything about the right. You, on the other hand, jumped right on the ‘righties are authoritarians.’

Again - Since liberalism as he is referring to it has absolutely NOTHING to do with Americans who style themselves liberal or the Democratic Party, your point means nothing.

Whatever your convoluted mind might think that conservatives and the right are, it has no bearing on what the left is. They are not diametrically opposed as you seem to be eluding. One being fascist does not make the other the beacon of freedom.

You're correct, you did not say anything whatsoever in your post about conservatives...I DID in my response. Because the core of liberalism Mao is referring to IS the core of liberalism of Americans who style themselves liberal or the Democratic Party.

And the core of conservatism of Americans who style themselves conservatives or the Republican Party is the same as conservatives in China, Russia and the Taliban.

 

[Fordsflylow]

I don't hate Liberals for thinking they can run my life better then I can. I hate them for trying to do it. All the rest of you can cay you don't hate liberals, but I hate anyone who uses guns and force to coerce me, and that's exactly what the left are doing.

Come on Kaz, the Republicans are no better in this regard. God forbid your a pregnant women or a gay or a Muslim then they are much worse. I get it what you mean to say is you want people to not tell you what to do unless they are different from you in some way then it is perfectly okay for the government to dictate to them

True, particularly given the fact liberals aren’t trying to ‘run’ anyone’s life.

Indeed, as you note, it’s conservatives who for the most part who demand conformity and discourage dissent, they work to undermine privacy rights and expand the government’s authority at the expense of individual liberty, and they seek to deny citizens equal access to the law, in violation of the 14th Amendment; they exhibit ignorance and contempt for the Constitution and its case law overall.

It’s therefore understandable why conservatives hate liberals, as liberals act in accordance with the Constitution, and against conservative special interests and efforts to aggrandize power.

They also sell to those morons who will buy it, that they are "conservative." Too fucking funny!!

 

[Fordsflylow]

Having spent my career in GE Management (11 years) and Management Consulting (9 years) doing strategy work for Fortune 500 companies, before going entrepreneurial and owning my own businesses (3), only government can corrupt free markets because they are the only entity with guns and the power to implement unilateral rules and shut down competition by force. When companies lobby government, it is still government that's corrupting the market, and your solution of the problem of companies lobbying government being to make government stronger is ... let's go with ... counterintuitive ...

The problem with that is when companies "become" the government. Did you know, there are more Blackwater security forces in Iraq, than there are US troops? Are you aware of all the intelligence agencies that have sprung up since 9/11? Or that we have privatized our prison system? Which explains why we have more people locked up than any country in history.

It's no secret we lost manufacturing jobs overseas. But we've also lost many that remained here. Did you know that 100% of the manufacturing of military helmuts is done with prison labor?

The people in government are puppets for the corporate oligarchy. Government might have the guns, but the multi-nationals tell them where to point.

Absolutely spot on!

 

[SuMar]

The people who hate liberals require an enemy.

They're repressed people who wage "wars" on everything, from drugs to immigrants to women to gov't to unions to liberals to endless oversea stalemates like Afghanistan.

If they were really happy people, they wouldn't have such huge hate-ons for everything in sight.

What is so laughable is the libs go on and on endlessly claiming the Republicans and their "war on women". Coming from a party where their liberal-in-command goes to these Muslim countries apologizing how bad America is when these countries treat their women like dirt. Treat their women bad. Rape and beatings and death in some cases. Keeping them covered head to toe in berkas and denying them of education. That is your war on women.

 

[Ernie S.]

Why do people hate Liberals?
Hate used to be a powerful word. People hated oppression, not the oppressed. They hated Stalin and Hitler, not the people they led. They hated rapists and child molesters, but not their victims. They hated poverty, but not the poor.
Conservatives still do, but we still don't hate poor people.
We don't even hate Liberals. What Conservatives hate is Liberal policy that shifts responsibility from the individual to the State, that shifts time honored principles to the dustbin by an activist Court.
I don't hate Liberals. I pity them and ridicule their ideas.

 

[Bfgrn]

The people who hate liberals require an enemy.

They're repressed people who wage "wars" on everything, from drugs to immigrants to women to gov't to unions to liberals to endless oversea stalemates like Afghanistan.

If they were really happy people, they wouldn't have such huge hate-ons for everything in sight.

What is so laughable is the libs go on and on endlessly claiming the Republicans and their "war on women". Coming from a party where their liberal-in-command goes to these Muslim countries apologizing how bad America is when these countries treat their women like dirt. Treat their women bad. Rape and beatings and death in some cases. Keeping them covered head to toe in berkas and denying them of education. That is your war on women.

And ALL those Muslim countries are ULTRA-conservative societies.

Our President is trying to repair the world opinion of America that was trashed by Bush and Cheney...Hirohito sneak attacks of sovereign countries, war crimes, Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, torture and human crimes like THIS:

Bush knew Guantánamo prisoners were innocent, former Colin Powell aide tells court

George W Bush knew that hundreds of detainees held at Guantánamo Bay were innocent - but covered the fact up for political reasons, a top former aide has told a U.S. court.

Retired Army Col. Lawrence B. Wilkerson, who served as chief of staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell, testified that officials 'knew that they had seized and were holding innocent men at Guantanamo Bay'.

'I discussed the issue of the Guantánamo detainees with Secretary Powell,' he said. 'I learnt that it was his view that it was not just Vice-President [Dick] Cheney and [Defense] Secretary [Donald] Rumsfeld, but also President Bush who was involved in all of the Guantánamo decision making.'
'They simply refused to release them out of fear of political repercussions,' he continued.

Colonel Wilkerson heaped most of his criticism on the heads of of Mr Rumsfeld and Mr Cheney, saying they knew that the majority of the 742 detainees sent to Guantánamo in 2002 were not guilty of any crimes.

His assertion is understood to have been backed by General Powell, the Times has reported.

General Powell left the Bush administration in 2005 in anger over the false information that he unknowlingly used to make the case for the war in Iraq.

Read more: Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield knew Guantánamo prisoners were innocent, former White House aide tells court | Mail Online

 

[Ernie S.]

The people who hate liberals require an enemy.

They're repressed people who wage "wars" on everything, from drugs to immigrants to women to gov't to unions to liberals to endless oversea stalemates like Afghanistan.

If they were really happy people, they wouldn't have such huge hate-ons for everything in sight.

What is so laughable is the libs go on and on endlessly claiming the Republicans and their "war on women". Coming from a party where their liberal-in-command goes to these Muslim countries apologizing how bad America is when these countries treat their women like dirt. Treat their women bad. Rape and beatings and death in some cases. Keeping them covered head to toe in berkas and denying them of education. That is your war on women.

And ALL those Muslim countries are ULTRA-conservative societies.

Our President is trying to repair the world opinion of America that was trashed by Bush and Cheney...Hirohito sneak attacks of sovereign countries, war crimes, Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, torture and human crimes like THIS:

Bush knew Guantánamo prisoners were innocent, former Colin Powell aide tells court

George W Bush knew that hundreds of detainees held at Guantánamo Bay were innocent - but covered the fact up for political reasons, a top former aide has told a U.S. court.

Retired Army Col. Lawrence B. Wilkerson, who served as chief of staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell, testified that officials 'knew that they had seized and were holding innocent men at Guantanamo Bay'.

'I discussed the issue of the Guantánamo detainees with Secretary Powell,' he said. 'I learnt that it was his view that it was not just Vice-President [Dick] Cheney and [Defense] Secretary [Donald] Rumsfeld, but also President Bush who was involved in all of the Guantánamo decision making.'
'They simply refused to release them out of fear of political repercussions,' he continued.

Colonel Wilkerson heaped most of his criticism on the heads of of Mr Rumsfeld and Mr Cheney, saying they knew that the majority of the 742 detainees sent to Guantánamo in 2002 were not guilty of any crimes.

His assertion is understood to have been backed by General Powell, the Times has reported.

General Powell left the Bush administration in 2005 in anger over the false information that he unknowlingly used to make the case for the war in Iraq.

Read more: Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield knew Guantánamo prisoners were innocent, former White House aide tells court | Mail Online

You are trying to equate an oppressive theocracy to American conservatism? You're a fool!

 

[Shelzin]

Why do people hate Liberals?
Hate used to be a powerful word. People hated oppression, not the oppressed. They hated Stalin and Hitler, not the people they led. They hated rapists and child molesters, but not their victims. They hated poverty, but not the poor.
Conservatives still do, but we still don't hate poor people.
We don't even hate Liberals. What Conservatives hate is Liberal policy that shifts responsibility from the individual to the State, that shifts time honored principles to the dustbin by an activist Court.
I don't hate Liberals. I pity them and ridicule their ideas.

Hot damn a honest answer. I think you are fucked up but have to give props direct honesty. That's respectable.

 

[Bfgrn]

What is so laughable is the libs go on and on endlessly claiming the Republicans and their "war on women". Coming from a party where their liberal-in-command goes to these Muslim countries apologizing how bad America is when these countries treat their women like dirt. Treat their women bad. Rape and beatings and death in some cases. Keeping them covered head to toe in berkas and denying them of education. That is your war on women.

And ALL those Muslim countries are ULTRA-conservative societies.

Our President is trying to repair the world opinion of America that was trashed by Bush and Cheney...Hirohito sneak attacks of sovereign countries, war crimes, Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, torture and human crimes like THIS:

Bush knew Guantánamo prisoners were innocent, former Colin Powell aide tells court

George W Bush knew that hundreds of detainees held at Guantánamo Bay were innocent - but covered the fact up for political reasons, a top former aide has told a U.S. court.

Retired Army Col. Lawrence B. Wilkerson, who served as chief of staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell, testified that officials 'knew that they had seized and were holding innocent men at Guantanamo Bay'.

'I discussed the issue of the Guantánamo detainees with Secretary Powell,' he said. 'I learnt that it was his view that it was not just Vice-President [Dick] Cheney and [Defense] Secretary [Donald] Rumsfeld, but also President Bush who was involved in all of the Guantánamo decision making.'
'They simply refused to release them out of fear of political repercussions,' he continued.

Colonel Wilkerson heaped most of his criticism on the heads of of Mr Rumsfeld and Mr Cheney, saying they knew that the majority of the 742 detainees sent to Guantánamo in 2002 were not guilty of any crimes.

His assertion is understood to have been backed by General Powell, the Times has reported.

General Powell left the Bush administration in 2005 in anger over the false information that he unknowlingly used to make the case for the war in Iraq.

Read more: Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield knew Guantánamo prisoners were innocent, former White House aide tells court | Mail Online

You are trying to equate an oppressive theocracy to American conservatism? You're a fool!

"Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the Republican party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them."
Barry Goldwater

What party has the theocrats? Take your time...

October 16, 2001

What's truly ironic about this whole war is that the conservatives in our country do not seem to realize that the Taliban is simply an extreme version of the same primal impulse that drives them.

In every population there is a distribution of conservative to progressive, aggressive to peaceful, etc. The famous classical game theoretic model, the Hawk-Dove contest, shows that the evolutionarily stable population in that model is not all hawks or all doves, but rather a certain degree of each; in that model, 58% "doves" and 42% "hawks". It stands to reason that it is expected that you will have both types of personality in your population. Similarly, I believe a stable distribution of political sensibility is probably one with both progressive and conservative elements.

Of course, it's funny how the same personality type seems to latch on to radically different ideas depending on the society. "Conservatives" here profess a belief in capitalism and extol the virtues of the good old days of the 1950's, a half century ago; "conservatives" in Russia pine for the bygone days of the stability of the old Soviet empire. I believe that the propensity in conservatives is not towards ideologies per se, but rather towards status quo versus change. I'd bet you'd find much more psychologically (and perhaps genetically?) similar between conservatives here and in Russia, despite the fact that they profess supposedly opposite nostalgias.

But of course a typical conservative doesn't look at the conservatism of their enemy and learn to moderate themselves; they see the enemy as an "other", as confirmation of their own rigid views, despite the evident similarity between the two stances.
M. Hadeishi