Why do Republicans perceive every tax as "punishing" something?

[Saigon]

lol, when you work and most of it goes in taxes for the government to take care of you, that is freedom?
loyal subjects

Yes, of course it is - because the services we have are cheaper per capita and of better quality than yours are.

 

[Saigon]

then you won't mind if EVERYONE pays a flat tax, no exceptions, no exemptions, no excuses. Thanks in advance dude!

No one in this country is arguing for a flat tax, and for obvious reasons.

I think the system we have is much fairer, and delivers better results.

 

[Stephanie]

lol, when you work and most of it goes in taxes for the government to take care of you, that is freedom?
loyal subjects

Yes, of course it is - because the services we have are cheaper per capita and of better quality than yours are.

you think so fine, but don't come on here all high and mighty and criticizing our country because you like your government mommey and daddy and believe we should want that too..

 

[The Rabbi]

lol, when you work and most of it goes in taxes for the government to take care of you, that is freedom?
loyal subjects

Yes, of course it is - because the services we have are cheaper per capita and of better quality than yours are.

you think so fine, but don't come on here criticizing our country because you like your government mommey and daddy and believe we should want that too..

Saigon is a trolling piece of reindeer skat. Best ignored.

 

[Saigon]

LOL

I've been reading a little about Romania. The world, INCLUDING THE U.S., has been BAILING THEIR BUTTS OUT since they rejected COMMUNISM.

Foreign Investments pushed by Gov'ts to get them out of an economic HOLE.

No wonder this IDIOT POSTS THE WAY HE DOES. I wonder how HIS PEASANTS ARE DOING OVER THERE.

Surely, we wouldn't want to read about each house having 1 40 watt light bulb only, or having the thermostats set by Gov't control with enforcer squads running around, or the Starving people even though they are an AGRICULTURAL SOCIETY.

No wonder Saigon is Brain Dead.

Um.....what?

What the fuck are you talking about, peasant?

 

[TemplarKormac]

lol, when you work and most of it goes in taxes for the government to take care of you, that is freedom?
loyal subjects

Yes, of course it is - because the services we have are cheaper per capita and of better quality than yours are.

You guys make people wait in line for their care. How is that "better quality"?

 

[Saigon]

lol, when you work and most of it goes in taxes for the government to take care of you, that is freedom?
loyal subjects

Yes, of course it is - because the services we have are cheaper per capita and of better quality than yours are.

you think so fine, but don't come on here all high and mighty and criticizing our country because you like your government mommey and daddy and believe we should want that too..

Well, do you want cheaper services that produce better results?

 

[OODA_Loop]

lol, when you work and most of it goes in taxes for the government to take care of you, that is freedom?
loyal subjects

Yes, of course it is - because the services we have are cheaper per capita and of better quality than yours are.

The most striking of all Finnish health problems was the high average mortality rate for males once they reached adulthood, which contributed to an average longevity in the mid-1980s of only 70.1 years compared with 73.6 years for Swedish males. In the second half of the 1970s, Finnish males over the age of twenty were one-third more likely to die by their sixty-fifth birthday than their Swedish neighbors. Cardiovascular diseases struck Finnish men twice as often as Swedish men. The three other chief causes of death were respiratory illnesses at twice the Swedish rate, lung cancer at three times the Swedish rate, and accidental or violent death at a frequency 50 percent higher than the Swedish figure. Health authorities have attributed the high mortality rates of the Finnish male to diet, excessive use of tobacco and alcohol, disruption of communities through migration, and a tradition of high-risk behavior that is particularly marked in working-class men in eastern Finland.

AllRefer.com - Finland - Health Problems | Finnish Information Resource

 

[Saigon]

lol, when you work and most of it goes in taxes for the government to take care of you, that is freedom?
loyal subjects

Yes, of course it is - because the services we have are cheaper per capita and of better quality than yours are.

You guys make people wait in line for their care. How is that "better quality"?

Because it delivers better measureable outcomes than the US system does.

Maximum waiting times here are generally short, and services very high quality. (If I remember rightly, the maximum wait times are 30 days for treatment and 90 days for surgery.)

It is not a perfect system by any means, but it is generally positive. Most people are satisfied with it.

 

[Saigon]

The most striking of all Finnish health problems was the high average mortality rate for males once they reached adulthood, which contributed to an average longevity in the mid-1980s of only 70.1 years compared with 73.6 years for Swedish males. In the second half of the 1970s, Finnish males over the age of twenty were one-third more likely to die by their sixty-fifth birthday than their Swedish neighbors. Cardiovascular diseases struck Finnish men twice as often as Swedish men. The three other chief causes of death were respiratory illnesses at twice the Swedish rate, lung cancer at three times the Swedish rate, and accidental or violent death at a frequency 50 percent higher than the Swedish figure. Health authorities have attributed the high mortality rates of the Finnish male to diet, excessive use of tobacco and alcohol, disruption of communities through migration, and a tradition of high-risk behavior that is particularly marked in working-class men in eastern Finland.

The 1970's? Really?

Yes we have health problems here - high rates of diabetes and alcoholism, but even so....the 1970's??!!

 

[Wildman]

MS. Saigon, or.........., MS. HANOI is much more fitting, i am awaiting your reply.., in the mean time, please explain this:

I think the system we have is much fairer, and delivers better results.

have you been living in a dark and dank cave and only come out to your mothers basement to post more lies and obfuscations ?? please read the following,

Congress has convened five hearings. Top Internal Revenue Service officials have been hauled to the Hill to testify -- and in some cases, ousted from their jobs. And lawmakers have requested reams of documents from the federal tax agency.

But more than three weeks after the controversy over the IRS' targeting of tea party groups first erupted, there are still many unanswered questions.

so maybe you MS. Hanoi can answer these questions as you belie........., ooops FEEEEEEEEL the system we have is much fairer,

 

[LordBrownTrout]

You have to pay govt 24 percent and you can't do it yourself for cheaper. That's pretty weak.

 

[eagle1462010]

Isn't Saigon the Good SOCIALIST? One he hasn't confirmed where he is from? 2 the only country with a 24% VAT is Romania, a KNOWN COMMUNIST/ NOW SOCIALIST STATE, AND 3 will not answer DIRECT QUESTIONS AGAINST HIS PROPOGANDA.

I'll ask again, Is the 24% VAT tax passed on to the CONSUMER?

 

[eagle1462010]

WOW. Romania has a GDP of a WHOLE 170 BILLION.

What an ECONOMIC POWERHOUSE?

 

[Stephanie]

WOW. Romania has a GDP of a WHOLE 170 BILLION.

What an ECONOMIC POWERHOUSE?

yeah but, they have great edumation to make them SNOBS

lol

 

[peach174]

Isn't Saigon the Good SOCIALIST? One he hasn't confirmed where he is from? 2 the only country with a 24% VAT is Romania, a KNOWN COMMUNIST/ NOW SOCIALIST STATE, AND 3 will not answer DIRECT QUESTIONS AGAINST HIS PROPOGANDA.

I'll ask again, Is the 24% VAT tax passed on to the CONSUMER?

He is from Helsinki Finland if you would bother to read the 2nd line from the top right of his posts.
If you also did some goggle searches would you find that Finland's Vat tax went from 23% to 24% in Jan. of 2013

 

[JakeStarkey]

All parties, of course, serve their constituents.

Absolutely, they do.

All parties do what they think is best for the people who vote for them.

The strange thing is that GOP policies largely serves as bloated elite of investment bankers, lawyers and insurance brokers - while somehow tricking the middle classes into thinking they will be better off.

Yeah, paying 50% of my income to the government is great for me! Why wouldn't anyone want to turn over half of everything they make? Democrats are great!

You hate the Republican Party as well.

You have repeatedly stated you hate democracy.

 

[Saigon]

Isn't Saigon the Good SOCIALIST? One he hasn't confirmed where he is from? 2 the only country with a 24% VAT is Romania, a KNOWN COMMUNIST/ NOW SOCIALIST STATE, AND 3 will not answer DIRECT QUESTIONS AGAINST HIS PROPOGANDA.

I'll ask again, Is the 24% VAT tax passed on to the CONSUMER?

I am from Finland, child. As a more intelligent poster might have guessed by the words "Helsinki, Finland" next to my avatar.

May I suggest you go and plunge a fork into your eyeball before returning to the forum with your apology.

 

[Saigon]

Wildman -

If you post any approaching a coherent question, I'l happily reply to it.

Gibberish and steams of smileys I'm less interested in.

 

[hazlnut]

Why do Republicans perceive every tax as "punishing" something? Except of course the few taxes they actually support.


If taxes "punish" people then so do stop signs.

Most of the GOP base didn't finish high school and are easily fooled by Faux News.