Why does the United States have the largest prison population in the world ?

[danielpalos]

"Why does the United States have the largest prison population in the world ?"
Lets get all factual and make the LefTarded filth piss themselves....Here goes:
Brown and Black folks have freedom in the U.S.. What would our jail/prison populations look like without Brown and Black folks here?

The right wing would have to be bigoted about something else.

Your speech suppression PC bullshit doesn't work anymore Danny Boy...We're running on facts and real statistics these days bud...shit you wackos hate.

i understand economics. you have a problem with natural rights.

 

[danielpalos]

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

As you know, the Second Amendment is the reason that we have a far lower rate of violent crime than the countries that you idolize.

we should not have the expense of our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror so the right wing can whine about taxes and try to cut social services for the Poor.

 

[Disir]

County is less than a year. I want that person in prison. More than a year.
Removal from society. There are programs in place in most states that help with getting these good folks back on their feet when exiting prison.

Right now you have a system where only the wealthy can be protected by laws or seek justice.

Justice for getting your car stolen would be getting your car back and getting the damage fixed not throwing someone in jail for more than a year.

Your plan results in letting violent people out of prisons because they are overcrowded

Justice is that person being removed from society due to the harm created by the crime committed.

You and I don't have the same definition of harm

I have had my car stolen and I got it back a couple days later like most people do. I was not harmed by it. And it's even easier today to install antitheft and recovery devices.
I was assaulted and robbed resulting in 3 cracked ribs, a fractured eye orbital, and a lacerated spleen.

The latter is a violent crime the former is not

Clearly we do not. I am very sorry that you had to go through that.

I don't need that crime to be violent. I am in contact almost daily with violent offenders, victims, people who are in some stage or the other of the criminal justice system, homeless, ID/physically disabled and addicts.


We should not engage in a dick swinging contest.

The second you start mentioning male anatomy in an argument you reveal yourself to be immature therefore not worth talking to

Whatever face you feel you need to save.

 

[Markle]

I like real Navy guys like Jesse.

He was never actually a Navy Seal. He is, however, a goofball. Maybe hit in the head too many times.

 

[Markle]

or does poverty lead to more single parent households?

They are both correlations and there is not a clear causal variable here.

States with the highest divorce rates also have a lot of single parent households

Trying to say that restrictive abortion laws are the sole cause of single parent families is simplistic at best.

Single parents have radically increased due to President Johnson's War on Poverty and his Great Society.

 

[skye]

Why does the United States have the largest prison population in the world ?


in other countries.....wisely, they kill them.....they kill the scum.....and that's why


good on them

US should do the same

 

[beautress]

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

As you know, the Second Amendment is the reason that we have a far lower rate of violent crime than the countries that you idolize.

we should not have the expense of our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror so the right wing can whine about taxes and try to cut social services for the Poor.

The poor?

If the little dog hadn't stopped to piddle, he would've won the race, hands down?

Few people in America are "poor." If you mean America's "poor" who works 40 hour weeks may make less than $14,000. That person still lives better than Kings and Queens 350 years ago. Plus, he gets a free education and his kid can get better tutoring than kings kids did 50 years ago on his school computer. lol

Poverty level, USA based on family size:

Simplified 2018 FPL Guidelines for the 48 Contiguous States and DC (not Alaska and Hawaii). You’ll use these guidelines for 2018 cost assistance, and taxes filed April 15, 2019


Persons in household 2018 Federal
Poverty Level threshold
100% FPL
*Medicaid eligibility is different in states that did not expand Medicaid. Federal Poverty Guidelines are different in Hawaii and Alaska.

Family Size Poverty line​

• 
  
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• 1............................$12,060​
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• 2..........................$16,240
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• 3..........................$20,420
  
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• 4..........................$24,600
  
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• 5..........................$28,780
  
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• 6..........................$32,960
  
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• 7..........................$37,140
  
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• 8..........................$41,320​

Source: What are Federal Poverty Levels Used for?

 

[danielpalos]

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

As you know, the Second Amendment is the reason that we have a far lower rate of violent crime than the countries that you idolize.

we should not have the expense of our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror so the right wing can whine about taxes and try to cut social services for the Poor.

The poor?

If the little dog hadn't stopped to piddle, he would've won the race, hands down?

Few people in America are "poor." If you mean America's "poor" who works 40 hour weeks may make less than $14,000. That person still lives better than Kings and Queens 350 years ago. Plus, he gets a free education and his kid can get better tutoring than kings kids did 50 years ago on his school computer. lol

Poverty level, USA based on family size:

Simplified 2018 FPL Guidelines for the 48 Contiguous States and DC (not Alaska and Hawaii). You’ll use these guidelines for 2018 cost assistance, and taxes filed April 15, 2019


Persons in household 2018 Federal
Poverty Level threshold
100% FPL
*Medicaid eligibility is different in states that did not expand Medicaid. Federal Poverty Guidelines are different in Hawaii and Alaska.

Family Size Poverty line​

• 1 $12,060​
• 2 $16,240​
• 3 $20,420​
• 4 $24,600​
• 5 $28,780​
• 6 $32,960​
• 7 $37,140​
• 8 $41,320​

Source: What are Federal Poverty Levels Used for?

Socialism is about equality unlike capitalism. We have a Second Amendment and should not be spending so much tax money on prisons.

 

[Andylusion]

... then nothing else you post matters.

.

What gives you the idea that anything you post fucking matters ?
lol

Oh, sorry. I thought I was talking to an adult, in which case it would matter as much as any discussion.

But as you have correctly pointed out, I was accidentally talking to a child, and thus nothing I posted matters.

Feel free to ignore my post that was designed for someone more mature than yourself. Adult ideas and thoughts really don't matter to children like you. My fault for not realizing that until now.

 

[beautress]

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

As you know, the Second Amendment is the reason that we have a far lower rate of violent crime than the countries that you idolize.

we should not have the expense of our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror so the right wing can whine about taxes and try to cut social services for the Poor.

The poor?

If the little dog hadn't stopped to piddle, he would've won the race, hands down?

Few people in America are "poor." If you mean America's "poor" who works 40 hour weeks may make less than $14,000. That person still lives better than Kings and Queens 350 years ago. Plus, he gets a free education and his kid can get better tutoring than kings kids did 50 years ago on his school computer. lol

Poverty level, USA based on family size:

Simplified 2018 FPL Guidelines for the 48 Contiguous States and DC (not Alaska and Hawaii). You’ll use these guidelines for 2018 cost assistance, and taxes filed April 15, 2019


Persons in household 2018 Federal
Poverty Level threshold
100% FPL
*Medicaid eligibility is different in states that did not expand Medicaid. Federal Poverty Guidelines are different in Hawaii and Alaska.

Family Size Poverty line​

• 1 $12,060​
• 2 $16,240​
• 3 $20,420​
• 4 $24,600​
• 5 $28,780​
• 6 $32,960​
• 7 $37,140​
• 8 $41,320​

Source: What are Federal Poverty Levels Used for?

Socialism is about equality unlike capitalism. We have a Second Amendment and should not be spending so much tax money on prisons.

Daniel, I don't think the Second Amendment would protect a person who you shot as he was threatening your life with a sledgehammer if his relatives sued you with the best of good lawyers working against you and your county-approved defender. All they need to do is the same thing the Democrats did to Donald Trump--lie their asses off to procure a 2-year faux lawsuit against your administration for something you and your helpers did not do such as collude with the Russians to harm Hillary Clinton. In fact they refused to collude when tempted by the Russians, and it has been shown that there is a good possibility that Hillary's crowd procure dirt on Trump from the Russians. IOW, the House Committee found Trump did not collude, the Senate found that Trump did not collude, Mueller found no evidence of collusion, no evidence of obstruction, and no evidence of his guilt.

Yet the insane House Democrats are saying Trump obstructed, and they have zero evidence that he did, since he has always maintained he did no such thing, and they have no evidence of his guilt in colluding, which he was cleared of 3 different times, and it took the Attorney General of the United States to tell them that, and they're still banging out false witness that he must have because all of them said so, without one whit of proof.

Socialism has driven the Democrats who proffer it out of their screaming, badmouthing, freaking minds.

 

[Markle]

Socialism is about equality unlike capitalism. We have a Second Amendment and should not be spending so much tax money on prisons.

Yep, Socialism is most certainly about equality. Shared poverty!

 

[skye]

May be the US should start neutralizing ...getting rid of all this dead weight.

 

[skye]

why feed all these scum?

why

clean the prisons

 

[beautress]

Socialism is about equality unlike capitalism. We have a Second Amendment and should not be spending so much tax money on prisons.

Yep, Socialism is most certainly about equality. Shared poverty!

That pretty much sums it up! lololol! Good one!

 

[the other mike]

Bullshit they do. You are the Kim Jongs and the Castros. You don't change the laws to make criminality criminal. People aren't applying the system, that's why it's not working. If you apply the system we have the way it's supposed to be applied, the people who cormmit crimes are put away for a long time. And people behave themselves, if the courts work.

BTW Hitler agrees with you. He maintained that people committed murder because it wasn't legal to murder people. So he made it legal.

Same with the Kim Jongs and the Castros.

 

[Blues Man]

Justice for getting your car stolen would be getting your car back and getting the damage fixed not throwing someone in jail for more than a year.

Actually justice would be all three.

So if all you had to do is give back what you stole, what's the deterrent from stealing another car? Nothing is going to happen to you anyway.

Where in this thread did I ever say not to give some sort of punishment?

 

[Blues Man]

Nonviolent crimes are best punished by alternate means such as paying restitution and long community service sentences.

What do you get if the guy who stole your car gets 6 months in county jail? You get nothing and when he gets out and can't get a job he'll just steal your car again.

It's circular reasoning

And it's quite easy and inexpensive to equip your car with an anti theft device. To me it's analogous to locking your doors and windows when you're not home.

Let me tell you a true story from about 25 years ago.

A middle-east family rented an old Dairy Mart and opened up their own store. I frequented the place since it's only a minute walk from my house.

One day I went there and the police were leaving. I asked the young clerk what was going on, and he said some drunk came in, took several packs of cigarettes off the counter, and left the store. He said the police told him if he comes back, give them a call and they'll kick him out.

We got to talking about the laws in our countries. He said his grandmother wanted him to send her our local news paper to see how his life in the new world was. She wrote back with great concern. She read the police section and stated that there is more theft in our little suburb in one week than there was in the entire middle-east in a year. I asked him if that was true, and he concurred.

He said where he was from, vendors sold goods at outdoor markets. They set up tables and umbrellas for customers to rest while shopping. He said if a woman got up and walked away forgetting her purse, people would cross the street to be nowhere near that table. The purse would even be there the next day.

In our country he said, if anybody got caught stealing, the police would take their sword and chop off their hand. If they got caught stealing again, off came the other hand. There is no third time he said. They tie you up in a burlap sack and toss you off a three story building. If you were still alive, they repeated the action until you were dead.

That's why there is very little theft in the middle-east, and kids are stealing police cars in New York city.

And you don't think it's lust a little barbaric to chop off a person's hand for stealing cigarettes?

 

[Blues Man]

Property crime isn't violent. And I wish you morons here would make up your minds as some of you say I'm a right wing nut job and others say I'm a left wing nut job.

I know what violent crime is as I was actually a victim and some idiot tagger spray painting a building or some other moron stealing a car are not violent crimes

An FYI violence involved with drugs that does not occur in this country is none of our business

If you want to end drug related crimes and violence then legalize all drugs. We'll save a shit load of money too

Now that's a great idea. Currently, over 80,000 (mostly young) Americans die from overdoses in the US a year. That's not including the ones who barely escaped death and were rescued. This costs taxpayers a lot of money. Now if we legalized recreational narcotics, perhaps we can get that death toll to 200,000, 400,000, maybe three million a year.

Now that's what I call progress.........until it's your own family member that becomes part of those statistics.

You think that everyone who doesn't do drugs now will start doing them if drugs are decriminalized?

The evidence disagrees

Want to Win the War on Drugs? Portugal Might Have the Answer

Let me ask you: do you think we had more alcohol related deaths during prohibition or after? Did we have more drunk driving accidents and deaths during or after? Did we create more alcoholics during prohibition or after?

Marijuana use in Colorado rises for adults, stays the same for kids

Marijuana-related hospital visits up for adolescents - UCHealth Today

Let me ask you this

Did we have more crime during prohibition ?

People are going to do the drugs they want to do and there will always be a black market for anything the government deems illegal.
Legalize it and it can be regulated and yes taxed. Billions of dollars annually can be saved, the courts will be freed up violent crimes related to the black market will decrease and with just a fraction of the money saved treatment can be offered for those who want it.

Anytime you make something legal that was illegal before, expect more people to participate.

Like I said, 80,000 US deaths last year from overdoses, and you want to see it reach 800,000. Sorry, I don't.

We may never be able to stop drug usage, but we can limit it as much as possible.

We can't even limit it as experience has shown. And as I said Portugal decriminalized all drugs and not only did crime rates decrease overall drug use has decreased

Let people make their own choices

 

[Jarlaxle]

Property crime isn't violent. And I wish you morons here would make up your minds as some of you say I'm a right wing nut job and others say I'm a left wing nut job.

I know what violent crime is as I was actually a victim and some idiot tagger spray painting a building or some other moron stealing a car are not violent crimes

An FYI violence involved with drugs that does not occur in this country is none of our business

If you want to end drug related crimes and violence then legalize all drugs. We'll save a shit load of money too

Now that's a great idea. Currently, over 80,000 (mostly young) Americans die from overdoses in the US a year. That's not including the ones who barely escaped death and were rescued. This costs taxpayers a lot of money. Now if we legalized recreational narcotics, perhaps we can get that death toll to 200,000, 400,000, maybe three million a year.

Now that's what I call progress.........until it's your own family member that becomes part of those statistics.

You think that everyone who doesn't do drugs now will start doing them if drugs are decriminalized?

The evidence disagrees

Want to Win the War on Drugs? Portugal Might Have the Answer

Let me ask you: do you think we had more alcohol related deaths during prohibition or after? Did we have more drunk driving accidents and deaths during or after? Did we create more alcoholics during prohibition or after?

Marijuana use in Colorado rises for adults, stays the same for kids

Marijuana-related hospital visits up for adolescents - UCHealth Today

Let me ask you this

Did we have more crime during prohibition ?

People are going to do the drugs they want to do and there will always be a black market for anything the government deems illegal.
Legalize it and it can be regulated and yes taxed. Billions of dollars annually can be saved, the courts will be freed up violent crimes related to the black market will decrease and with just a fraction of the money saved treatment can be offered for those who want it.

Anytime you make something legal that was illegal before, expect more people to participate.

Like I said, 80,000 US deaths last year from overdoses, and you want to see it reach 800,000. Sorry, I don't.

We may never be able to stop drug usage, but we can limit it as much as possible.

So...you support a return to Prohibition, then?

 

[Jarlaxle]

Nonviolent crimes are best punished by alternate means such as paying restitution and long community service sentences.

What do you get if the guy who stole your car gets 6 months in county jail? You get nothing and when he gets out and can't get a job he'll just steal your car again.

It's circular reasoning

And it's quite easy and inexpensive to equip your car with an anti theft device. To me it's analogous to locking your doors and windows when you're not home.

Let me tell you a true story from about 25 years ago.

A middle-east family rented an old Dairy Mart and opened up their own store. I frequented the place since it's only a minute walk from my house.

One day I went there and the police were leaving. I asked the young clerk what was going on, and he said some drunk came in, took several packs of cigarettes off the counter, and left the store. He said the police told him if he comes back, give them a call and they'll kick him out.

We got to talking about the laws in our countries. He said his grandmother wanted him to send her our local news paper to see how his life in the new world was. She wrote back with great concern. She read the police section and stated that there is more theft in our little suburb in one week than there was in the entire middle-east in a year. I asked him if that was true, and he concurred.

He said where he was from, vendors sold goods at outdoor markets. They set up tables and umbrellas for customers to rest while shopping. He said if a woman got up and walked away forgetting her purse, people would cross the street to be nowhere near that table. The purse would even be there the next day.

In our country he said, if anybody got caught stealing, the police would take their sword and chop off their hand. If they got caught stealing again, off came the other hand. There is no third time he said. They tie you up in a burlap sack and toss you off a three story building. If you were still alive, they repeated the action until you were dead.

That's why there is very little theft in the middle-east, and kids are stealing police cars in New York city.

A young American vandal thought he could get away with defacing a building with graffiti. He never expected to be punished. He was caned, in public, across his naked back. He never did it again.

If it's the story I"m thinking of that took place in Singapore, it was an exchange student from the US, and he was spray painting cars.

They sentenced him to eight whacks with the cane. The newspaper at the time described how they did it. They strip you naked and chain you to some sort of device. They take a cane soaked in flax. They have a martial arts expert hit you on the ass as hard as he can.

They went on to explain the pain is so intense, many pass out before the second strike. They don't feed you for two days because it's likely you will shit yourself. Then they drag you back to your cell and it takes two or three days for the pain to totally subside. The marks from the strikes are permanent on your ass, and the only way to cover them is with plastic surgery.

The staff of the Singapore embassy should have been fed feet-first into a wood chipper for that...one person per cane stroke.