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If democrats welcomed illegal immigration or didn't want a barrier against, why would democrats support the 2006 Border Fence Act which authorized 700 hundred miles of reinforced fences and why would democrats in congress support a bill that doubled the size of the border patrol and why would Bill Clinton sign a law that denies federal funds to undocumented immigrants and why would Obama, remove 2.5 million illegal immigrants. I think your claims are based on supposition, not facts.The disagreement in Washington is not whether to secure the border or not but the most efficient and economically way to deal with illegal immigration.
If you really believe that, I have a bridge for sale if interested.
The disagreement is Democrats don't want any barrier that works the best and can't be removed.
Oh yeah?
Then where is that 700 miles of border fence?
Why are they fighting so hard to keep their sanctuary cities and now states?
Why did they stop Kate's Law in the Senate when Democrats had leadership?
Why do they provide illegals with drivers licenses in their states and allow their kids to attend school?
LA Times
Court Deportations Drop 43 Percent in Past Five Years
Report: 42 percent of new Medicaid signups are immigrants, their children
The Democrats can't say they are for illegals, so they put on this dog and pony show for the sheep that can't see beyond their BS.
People sling numbers around like they were picked from air. Here is an article that disputes the numbers. But, might I remind you that radio commentators are claiming that $5 BILLION DOLLARS is a drop in the bucket of federal spending.
How Undocumented Immigrants Sometimes Receive Medicaid Treatment
Herein is the irony. Ray and those like him vehemently defend the 14th Amendment, yet the Courts have ruled that if you're born here you are a citizen - as per the 14th Amendment. The money he is bitching about is used to the benefit of what will be "legal" American citizens.
Ray, had your kind stayed out of the fight, patriots were busy getting rid of the 14th Amendment. Without it, this issue would have been taken off the table. So, what are you REALLY whining about?
It’s a waste of money . If the goal is to address illegal immigration, then that money is better spent in other ways .
More ins agents , more immigrantion courts , more judges . More enforcement vs companies who hire illegals . That’s a better use if the money .
Keep illegals from coming in without proper permission. We don’t need the rest. That’s better use of money. Less crime, less money spent to support non tax payers. And libs piss away more money for foreign aid, than is spent on legitimate tax paying citizens. The libs are just trying to block Don from keeping campaigning promises that will benefit our citizens and economy. They will give everything away for free, and raise taxes to pay for it.
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Facts to substantiate this?
You are calling people "illegals" before they come here. So, you reject the notion of innocent until proven guilty?
If democrats welcomed illegal immigration or didn't want a barrier against, why would democrats support the 2006 Border Fence Act which authorized 700 hundred miles of reinforced fences and why would democrats in congress support a bill that doubled the size of the border patrol and why would Bill Clinton sign a law that denies federal funds to undocumented immigrants and why would Obama, remove 2.5 million illegal immigrants. I think your claims are based on supposition, not facts.The disagreement in Washington is not whether to secure the border or not but the most efficient and economically way to deal with illegal immigration.
If you really believe that, I have a bridge for sale if interested.
The disagreement is Democrats don't want any barrier that works the best and can't be removed.
Oh yeah?
Then where is that 700 miles of border fence?
Why are they fighting so hard to keep their sanctuary cities and now states?
Why did they stop Kate's Law in the Senate when Democrats had leadership?
Why do they provide illegals with drivers licenses in their states and allow their kids to attend school?
LA Times
Court Deportations Drop 43 Percent in Past Five Years
Report: 42 percent of new Medicaid signups are immigrants, their children
The Democrats can't say they are for illegals, so they put on this dog and pony show for the sheep that can't see beyond their BS.
People sling numbers around like they were picked from air. Here is an article that disputes the numbers. But, might I remind you that radio commentators are claiming that $5 BILLION DOLLARS is a drop in the bucket of federal spending.
How Undocumented Immigrants Sometimes Receive Medicaid Treatment
Herein is the irony. Ray and those like him vehemently defend the 14th Amendment, yet the Courts have ruled that if you're born here you are a citizen - as per the 14th Amendment. The money he is bitching about is used to the benefit of what will be "legal" American citizens.
Ray, had your kind stayed out of the fight, patriots were busy getting rid of the 14th Amendment. Without it, this issue would have been taken off the table. So, what are you REALLY whining about?
Quick reply here.
The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”. When you say "courts" then specify the case, ruling and then we can discuss it.
It’s a waste of money . If the goal is to address illegal immigration, then that money is better spent in other ways .
More ins agents , more immigrantion courts , more judges . More enforcement vs companies who hire illegals . That’s a better use if the money .
Keep illegals from coming in without proper permission. We don’t need the rest. That’s better use of money. Less crime, less money spent to support non tax payers. And libs piss away more money for foreign aid, than is spent on legitimate tax paying citizens. The libs are just trying to block Don from keeping campaigning promises that will benefit our citizens and economy. They will give everything away for free, and raise taxes to pay for it.
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Facts to substantiate this?
You are calling people "illegals" before they come here. So, you reject the notion of innocent until proven guilty?
When you apply to come in and follow the protocol, you are involved in a legal procedure. When you walk in a caravan, and are going in not matter what, you are illegal. There are people in the legal process of entry. Cut the line next time at the movies, a restaurant, or grocery store, and advise us of the outcome. If the legal process is followed, we don’t need to spend money on people to enforce the rules and laws on people who break them. Whatever anyone’s opinion, the president wants to protect the security of the country and keep law enforcement safe doing it. Americans tax dollars, should mean Americans first. A wall, barrier or whatever you want to call it, is just part of this. Cameras, drones, computer systems, access roads, vehicles, and personnel to make it work are the rest of the process. Want a fence between your neighbors house, you are done. This isn’t anything like that. And the money he’s asking to be approved isn’t out of line. All those against this, have supported it in the past. They want to show him up, at the cost of keeping our country safe. Hypocrisy.
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They have no such freedom. They can come here if we give them permission. That's it.My reply (if you were following) was in reference to the Federal law of citizenship VS those who sneak across our southern border illegally.
OK. And I'm pointing out those issues have nothing to do with each other. Opposition to the wall isn't about granting anyone citizenship. It's about the freedom of people to travel here, work here and live here.
Your permission or mine? Please cite me that part of the Constitution.
Upgrading Ellis Island could process thousands per day. It is more cost effective and humane.It’s a waste of money . If the goal is to address illegal immigration, then that money is better spent in other ways .
More ins agents , more immigrantion courts , more judges . More enforcement vs companies who hire illegals . That’s a better use if the money .
Keep illegals from coming in without proper permission. We don’t need the rest. That’s better use of money. Less crime, less money spent to support non tax payers. And libs piss away more money for foreign aid, than is spent on legitimate tax paying citizens. The libs are just trying to block Don from keeping campaigning promises that will benefit our citizens and economy. They will give everything away for free, and raise taxes to pay for it.
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Facts to substantiate this?
You are calling people "illegals" before they come here. So, you reject the notion of innocent until proven guilty?
When you apply to come in and follow the protocol, you are involved in a legal procedure. When you walk in a caravan, and are going in not matter what, you are illegal. There are people in the legal process of entry. Cut the line next time at the movies, a restaurant, or grocery store, and advise us of the outcome. If the legal process is followed, we don’t need to spend money on people to enforce the rules and laws on people who break them. Whatever anyone’s opinion, the president wants to protect the security of the country and keep law enforcement safe doing it. Americans tax dollars, should mean Americans first. A wall, barrier or whatever you want to call it, is just part of this. Cameras, drones, computer systems, access roads, vehicles, and personnel to make it work are the rest of the process. Want a fence between your neighbors house, you are done. This isn’t anything like that. And the money he’s asking to be approved isn’t out of line. All those against this, have supported it in the past. They want to show him up, at the cost of keeping our country safe. Hypocrisy.
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It’s a waste of money . If the goal is to address illegal immigration, then that money is better spent in other ways .
More ins agents , more immigrantion courts , more judges . More enforcement vs companies who hire illegals . That’s a better use if the money .
Keep illegals from coming in without proper permission. We don’t need the rest. That’s better use of money. Less crime, less money spent to support non tax payers. And libs piss away more money for foreign aid, than is spent on legitimate tax paying citizens. The libs are just trying to block Don from keeping campaigning promises that will benefit our citizens and economy. They will give everything away for free, and raise taxes to pay for it.
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Facts to substantiate this?
You are calling people "illegals" before they come here. So, you reject the notion of innocent until proven guilty?
When you apply to come in and follow the protocol, you are involved in a legal procedure. When you walk in a caravan, and are going in not matter what, you are illegal. There are people in the legal process of entry. Cut the line next time at the movies, a restaurant, or grocery store, and advise us of the outcome. If the legal process is followed, we don’t need to spend money on people to enforce the rules and laws on people who break them. Whatever anyone’s opinion, the president wants to protect the security of the country and keep law enforcement safe doing it. Americans tax dollars, should mean Americans first. A wall, barrier or whatever you want to call it, is just part of this. Cameras, drones, computer systems, access roads, vehicles, and personnel to make it work are the rest of the process. Want a fence between your neighbors house, you are done. This isn’t anything like that. And the money he’s asking to be approved isn’t out of line. All those against this, have supported it in the past. They want to show him up, at the cost of keeping our country safe. Hypocrisy.
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I, for one, have NEVER thought that putting America under surveillance 24 / 7 / 365 is a good idea. For FIFTEEN YEARS, those in favor of the wall have denied that the Democrats were for it first. Now, they are admitting it.
What a difference a day makes. Benjamin Franklin once said something to the effect that those who would give up essential Liberty for the promise of temporary Safety deserved neither Liberty NOR Safety.
That is the very argument the build the wall supporters are conveying on this thread. So, unless they can conjure up some legitimate reason to maintain their stance, they are arguing against Liberty and they are the REAL problem in America.
To establish an uniform Rule of NaturalizationThey have no such freedom. They can come here if we give them permission. That's it.My reply (if you were following) was in reference to the Federal law of citizenship VS those who sneak across our southern border illegally.
OK. And I'm pointing out those issues have nothing to do with each other. Opposition to the wall isn't about granting anyone citizenship. It's about the freedom of people to travel here, work here and live here.
Your permission or mine? Please cite me that part of the Constitution.
U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 9
The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight
Too far from the border.Upgrading Ellis Island could process thousands per day. It is more cost effective and humane.It’s a waste of money . If the goal is to address illegal immigration, then that money is better spent in other ways .
More ins agents , more immigrantion courts , more judges . More enforcement vs companies who hire illegals . That’s a better use if the money .
Keep illegals from coming in without proper permission. We don’t need the rest. That’s better use of money. Less crime, less money spent to support non tax payers. And libs piss away more money for foreign aid, than is spent on legitimate tax paying citizens. The libs are just trying to block Don from keeping campaigning promises that will benefit our citizens and economy. They will give everything away for free, and raise taxes to pay for it.
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Facts to substantiate this?
You are calling people "illegals" before they come here. So, you reject the notion of innocent until proven guilty?
When you apply to come in and follow the protocol, you are involved in a legal procedure. When you walk in a caravan, and are going in not matter what, you are illegal. There are people in the legal process of entry. Cut the line next time at the movies, a restaurant, or grocery store, and advise us of the outcome. If the legal process is followed, we don’t need to spend money on people to enforce the rules and laws on people who break them. Whatever anyone’s opinion, the president wants to protect the security of the country and keep law enforcement safe doing it. Americans tax dollars, should mean Americans first. A wall, barrier or whatever you want to call it, is just part of this. Cameras, drones, computer systems, access roads, vehicles, and personnel to make it work are the rest of the process. Want a fence between your neighbors house, you are done. This isn’t anything like that. And the money he’s asking to be approved isn’t out of line. All those against this, have supported it in the past. They want to show him up, at the cost of keeping our country safe. Hypocrisy.
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we have a general welfare clause not a general warfare clause.It’s a waste of money . If the goal is to address illegal immigration, then that money is better spent in other ways .
More ins agents , more immigrantion courts , more judges . More enforcement vs companies who hire illegals . That’s a better use if the money .
Keep illegals from coming in without proper permission. We don’t need the rest. That’s better use of money. Less crime, less money spent to support non tax payers. And libs piss away more money for foreign aid, than is spent on legitimate tax paying citizens. The libs are just trying to block Don from keeping campaigning promises that will benefit our citizens and economy. They will give everything away for free, and raise taxes to pay for it.
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Facts to substantiate this?
You are calling people "illegals" before they come here. So, you reject the notion of innocent until proven guilty?
When you apply to come in and follow the protocol, you are involved in a legal procedure. When you walk in a caravan, and are going in not matter what, you are illegal. There are people in the legal process of entry. Cut the line next time at the movies, a restaurant, or grocery store, and advise us of the outcome. If the legal process is followed, we don’t need to spend money on people to enforce the rules and laws on people who break them. Whatever anyone’s opinion, the president wants to protect the security of the country and keep law enforcement safe doing it. Americans tax dollars, should mean Americans first. A wall, barrier or whatever you want to call it, is just part of this. Cameras, drones, computer systems, access roads, vehicles, and personnel to make it work are the rest of the process. Want a fence between your neighbors house, you are done. This isn’t anything like that. And the money he’s asking to be approved isn’t out of line. All those against this, have supported it in the past. They want to show him up, at the cost of keeping our country safe. Hypocrisy.
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I, for one, have NEVER thought that putting America under surveillance 24 / 7 / 365 is a good idea. For FIFTEEN YEARS, those in favor of the wall have denied that the Democrats were for it first. Now, they are admitting it.
What a difference a day makes. Benjamin Franklin once said something to the effect that those who would give up essential Liberty for the promise of temporary Safety deserved neither Liberty NOR Safety.
That is the very argument the build the wall supporters are conveying on this thread. So, unless they can conjure up some legitimate reason to maintain their stance, they are arguing against Liberty and they are the REAL problem in America.
Agree to disagree. We are not putting America on surveillance, just the borders. Obviously an issue of national security currently. No one is saying put cameras on your home or mine. But, go anywhere in our country and you have been recorded for posterity. This does actually solve a lot of crime throughout the country. If you think we have a lot of surveillance here, England for example is that much more. This is a done deal, and not going anywhere.
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Upgrading Ellis Island could process thousands per day. It is more cost effective and humane.It’s a waste of money . If the goal is to address illegal immigration, then that money is better spent in other ways .
More ins agents , more immigrantion courts , more judges . More enforcement vs companies who hire illegals . That’s a better use if the money .
Keep illegals from coming in without proper permission. We don’t need the rest. That’s better use of money. Less crime, less money spent to support non tax payers. And libs piss away more money for foreign aid, than is spent on legitimate tax paying citizens. The libs are just trying to block Don from keeping campaigning promises that will benefit our citizens and economy. They will give everything away for free, and raise taxes to pay for it.
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Facts to substantiate this?
You are calling people "illegals" before they come here. So, you reject the notion of innocent until proven guilty?
When you apply to come in and follow the protocol, you are involved in a legal procedure. When you walk in a caravan, and are going in not matter what, you are illegal. There are people in the legal process of entry. Cut the line next time at the movies, a restaurant, or grocery store, and advise us of the outcome. If the legal process is followed, we don’t need to spend money on people to enforce the rules and laws on people who break them. Whatever anyone’s opinion, the president wants to protect the security of the country and keep law enforcement safe doing it. Americans tax dollars, should mean Americans first. A wall, barrier or whatever you want to call it, is just part of this. Cameras, drones, computer systems, access roads, vehicles, and personnel to make it work are the rest of the process. Want a fence between your neighbors house, you are done. This isn’t anything like that. And the money he’s asking to be approved isn’t out of line. All those against this, have supported it in the past. They want to show him up, at the cost of keeping our country safe. Hypocrisy.
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we have a Constitution. That Constitution expresses an establishment clause concerning naturalization not immigration.Too far from the border.Upgrading Ellis Island could process thousands per day. It is more cost effective and humane.It’s a waste of money . If the goal is to address illegal immigration, then that money is better spent in other ways .
More ins agents , more immigrantion courts , more judges . More enforcement vs companies who hire illegals . That’s a better use if the money .
Keep illegals from coming in without proper permission. We don’t need the rest. That’s better use of money. Less crime, less money spent to support non tax payers. And libs piss away more money for foreign aid, than is spent on legitimate tax paying citizens. The libs are just trying to block Don from keeping campaigning promises that will benefit our citizens and economy. They will give everything away for free, and raise taxes to pay for it.
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Facts to substantiate this?
You are calling people "illegals" before they come here. So, you reject the notion of innocent until proven guilty?
When you apply to come in and follow the protocol, you are involved in a legal procedure. When you walk in a caravan, and are going in not matter what, you are illegal. There are people in the legal process of entry. Cut the line next time at the movies, a restaurant, or grocery store, and advise us of the outcome. If the legal process is followed, we don’t need to spend money on people to enforce the rules and laws on people who break them. Whatever anyone’s opinion, the president wants to protect the security of the country and keep law enforcement safe doing it. Americans tax dollars, should mean Americans first. A wall, barrier or whatever you want to call it, is just part of this. Cameras, drones, computer systems, access roads, vehicles, and personnel to make it work are the rest of the process. Want a fence between your neighbors house, you are done. This isn’t anything like that. And the money he’s asking to be approved isn’t out of line. All those against this, have supported it in the past. They want to show him up, at the cost of keeping our country safe. Hypocrisy.
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Besides we don't want to process more immigrants through the border into our country than we already have been. Didn't you watch that video?
What a difference a day makes. Benjamin Franklin once said something to the effect that those who would give up essential Liberty for the promise of temporary Safety deserved neither Liberty NOR Safety.
We should be upgrading Ellis Island and surrounding infrastructure and generating revenue from foreign nationals to pay for it.Upgrading Ellis Island could process thousands per day. It is more cost effective and humane.It’s a waste of money . If the goal is to address illegal immigration, then that money is better spent in other ways .
More ins agents , more immigrantion courts , more judges . More enforcement vs companies who hire illegals . That’s a better use if the money .
Keep illegals from coming in without proper permission. We don’t need the rest. That’s better use of money. Less crime, less money spent to support non tax payers. And libs piss away more money for foreign aid, than is spent on legitimate tax paying citizens. The libs are just trying to block Don from keeping campaigning promises that will benefit our citizens and economy. They will give everything away for free, and raise taxes to pay for it.
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Facts to substantiate this?
You are calling people "illegals" before they come here. So, you reject the notion of innocent until proven guilty?
When you apply to come in and follow the protocol, you are involved in a legal procedure. When you walk in a caravan, and are going in not matter what, you are illegal. There are people in the legal process of entry. Cut the line next time at the movies, a restaurant, or grocery store, and advise us of the outcome. If the legal process is followed, we don’t need to spend money on people to enforce the rules and laws on people who break them. Whatever anyone’s opinion, the president wants to protect the security of the country and keep law enforcement safe doing it. Americans tax dollars, should mean Americans first. A wall, barrier or whatever you want to call it, is just part of this. Cameras, drones, computer systems, access roads, vehicles, and personnel to make it work are the rest of the process. Want a fence between your neighbors house, you are done. This isn’t anything like that. And the money he’s asking to be approved isn’t out of line. All those against this, have supported it in the past. They want to show him up, at the cost of keeping our country safe. Hypocrisy.
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Totally agree. The governor of NY would be eating his words if this was to occur.
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You're not going to get 2/3'ds consensus.requires 2/3 majority of both houses in congress to change the 17th amendment. Or 2/3 of the states doing some legislature redo of the entire constitution.anchor babies collect federal benefits and give that money to their illegal immigrant parent.
So let's get rid of birthright citizenship. I see no justification for it. It would beat the hell out of a big dumb wall.
So? At least then we'd have real consensus, and not just some slim partisan majority that will be reversed with the next election.
The Dems say "experts" say the wall won't work. They need to name these so called experts or admit they're lying. Border Patrol, the actual experts on the border, say they want and need the wall to slow down illegals crossing the border.
There are people OTHER THAN Dems telling you the wall won't work. It won't work for us because we are unlike other nations.
It wont' work for us because the foreigners are coming here because we jobs and Americans WILLING to do business with them. That is not the case in other countries.
As I hear Trump speak of people and think back to how he spoke of Hispanics during the campaign, I see the wall as a symbol of hate rather than an object of protection. If it happens, it happens. But I want nothing to do with it.
One of the most effective ploys by those attempting to vilify undocumented immigrants is to assert that those immigrants are stealing benefits from Americans. Donald Trump has deployed this falsehood over and over and has even promised a law to stop. The fact is there's already is law. In was passed in 1996.I am struggling to understand your argument.
We elect representatives to carry out our will. When California opts to have Sanctuary Cities, I feel the people of California have spoken, don't you?
If the state of California cannot afford the people they bring in, then it becomes our business if the state of California is relying on federal funds to wine and dine their foreign guests. Then I'd have a dog in the fight. BTW, some of the things you presume may be the law where you live, but certainly not in every jurisdiction.
Federal dollars for the following social services are expressed forbidden by federal law:
Not only are undocumented immigrants barred from these benefits, legal immigrants are also barred for 7 years.
- Children’s Health Insurance (CHIP)
- Disability, aka Supplemental Security Income (SSI)
- Food stamps, aka The Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP)
- Health insurance, aka insurance via the Affordable Care Act (ACA)
- Medicaid
- Medicare
- Social Security
- Welfare
Depending on the state federal dollars can be used for the following under certain circumstances:
In spite of the facts, there are a constant stream of claims of billion and hundreds of billions of dollars being spent on illegal immigrants. States can of course fund programs that benefit undocumented immigrants but they can't use federal dollars.
- Emergency medical care, including ER visits and Emergency Medicaid
- Schooling
- Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children (WIC)
No, Undocumented Immigrants Aren't Stealing Your Benefits | HuffPost
They're not forbidden for their anchor babies and yes the government reimburses hospitals about 4 billion a year to treat illegal aliens. And what do you think it costs the country for jails, prisons, schooling, property damage in auto accidents, courts (State, local and federal). Then you have property theft, identity theft, murder, kidnapping, assault, rape and various other crimes, none are free to their victims. And the lists go on and on, 100 billion a year is a conservative estimate.
Oh I forgot border and interior law enforcement to round those suckers up, then it costs almost 12,000 each to deport them.
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The first time I ever heard the allegation that the children of undocumented parents "cost" taxpayers, I went to the hospital and spoke to a woman quoted in the article used to prove the allegation.
The lady I spoke to was Paula Martin. Remember, I spoke to her in person, face to face. When presented with the article, she told me that the taxpayers do NOT reimburse the hospital for any INDIGENT patient. When those who hate the foreigners revised the story, they lied again. Instead of admitting this, the next time the right commented on it, they said:
"The Gwinnett (GA.) Hospital System expects more illegal immigrants will present themselves for urgent care this year and has established a $34 million reserve to cover its outlay."
The Social Contract - Illegal Aliens - The Health Cost Dimension
The $34 million dollar set aside is for INDIGENT patients, not undocumented foreigners. Do undocumented foreigners represent some of those? Yes, they do. But, there are people like the homeless and the downright lazy who avail themselves of this set aside. I have a worthless POS relative (by marriage) that is on the hook to that hospital for $54,000 right now.
So, how do the hospitals generate this $34 million dollars?
Most of the money is generated from uninsured people who pay for their services. And the bad part for those who don't like the undocumented, they pay into that amount as well. They do so because if they pay their income taxes via an Individual Tax Identification Number and keep their bills paid up, they are the first to be considered when amnesties roll around.
Additionally, the undocumented use the hospital for their primary care. And, as long as they pay on their bill, they can continue to use the hospital for routine services.
So, I know, for a fact, you're peddling a lie here. Why do you REALLY not want undocumented foreigners to come here?
How American Citizens Finance $18.5 Billion In Health Care For Unauthorized Immigrants
OMG, Ray. First you have an article that claims $2 Billion dollars. I find another that says $4 Billion dollars. Now we're up to $18.5 Billion dollars. Let me quote something from your article:
"Medicare DSH Payments. In a similar fashion, although the formula is much more complicated, Medicare also pays hospitals a DSH payment that effectively serves as a general subsidy to offset aggregate uncompensated care losses without making any distinction between uncompensated costs generated by unauthorized immigrants and those generated by American citizens or legal immigrants."
Translated into English, the general public is too stupid to understand the partisan figures so they devise "formulas" that we're not supposed to understand.
Instead of trying to enlighten me with these idiotic articles, see if you can spend your day finding out the truth.
Where do your Rights come from?
Do some research on your article and show me the amount those undocumented foreigners contribute to offset the alleged cost.
This is really idiotic Ray. There are a finite number of people here reading this. You guys that want a border wall parrot the trash that was put together by white supremacists. I'm not condemning you for that.
What I'm saying is that you cannot build your philosophy on lies to the point that you can no longer distinguish between reality and propaganda. Today, I'd like to see something NEW from you. You see, I'm more to the right than you because I am a constitutionalist.
When you bring debunked B.S. to the table every day, we cannot use it to persuade those who have stayed isolated from this issue and are just learning. When they do a little research, your facts don't hold up and if you're honest - ever since Trump has been put in charge, public opinion has swung left. No politician has jumped parties to be on Trump's side. Some office holders have left the Republican Party to become Democrats. The House of Representatives is indicative of the fact that what you're doing isn't working.
Can you answer my questions Ray? Can you tell us where you get your Rights from? Can you give us a legitimate reason you're so opposed to foreigners?
Don't try to pee down my neck and tell me it's raining. If it were an issue like the Medicare / Medicaid stuff, you will find it easier to make it harder for undocumented foreigners to get the benefits and privileges of citizenship rather than transform America into a third world socialist cesspool.
