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as I predicted all mouth and no credible sources ... pops up a number abt he just can't seem to come up with were these numbers came from ... so "ll help you under rea=gan an bush 1, 5 trillion dollars of debt... 3 trillion dollars was caused by rean at 5 trillion dollars of debt in 8 years in office bush caused 10 .5 trillion dollars of debt ... see I can pull numbers out of a hat just like you ... tell us where obams debt came from...
I just gave you some numbers.
Seems to me like you're all mouth because your numbers are bull shit.
Why is it the debt, which was around $9 trillion during Bush and Reagan, was directly their fault and the debt, which is currently around $17 trillion, isn't Obama's.
You're fighting from a position of weakness numbnuts, and you're acting like you're winning the argument.
Fact is, to be a believer in Obamination you have to be in complete denial.
like I said you can spew numbers till your blue in the face for all I care ... to validate those numbers that you're so pround of, you need to tell us where the came from ... I've asked several times, cause I know if I use a source you'll say thats a liberal site and you won't accept it ... so where did the trillions of dollars come from
According to a Congressional Budget Office (CBO) report published in October 2007, the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan could cost taxpayers a total of $2.4 trillion by 2017 when counting the huge interest costs because combat is being financed with borrowed money. The CBO estimated that of the $2.4 trillion long-term price tag for the war, about $1.9 trillion of that would be spent on Iraq, or $6,300 per U.S. citizen.[9][10]
Under Republican control in the House we have careened from fiscal crisis to fiscal crisis , shut down the government, threatened default TWICE and witnessed Biblical tantrums and brinksmanship rather than statesmanship.You won yet again on the budget/debt limit as the Republicans/conservatives/tea party got squat. It's quite a winning streak you have going.
- You got Obamacare
- Federal spending is soaring
- Taxes on the "rich" are going up
- The "poor" are not only not paying taxes but getting refunds of taxes they didn't pay
- State rights are reduced to only that which the Federal government decides to allow them
- We are doing little to nothing to secure our borders
- The Republican majority in the House is irrelevant and has no power
- Obama is doing what W did in the Middle East and W is still being blamed for it
- W is still being blamed for our economy five years after he left.
You are completely and utterly dominating the Republican party in every conceivable way and you have been for the last decade. So I don't get it, why are you still so angry? You have no tolerance, no empathy, no mercy for those you have utterly crushed. Why? What would it take to get you to pull the stick out? Aren't you getting enough?
All this from the party claiming responsibility as its best virtue.
That's what makes Americans so angry with Republicans.
I copied this from Ann Coulter's column and dare you to read it.
Responding to the peoples will, House Republicans first voted to fund all of government except Obamacare. Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it.
Then the Republicans voted to fully fund the government, but merely delay the implementation of Obamacare for one year. Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it.
Finally, the Republicans voted to fully fund the government, but added a requirement that everyone live under Obamacare. No more special waivers for Congress and their staff, and no waivers for big business without the same waivers for individuals.
Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it. So as you can see, Republicans are the big holdup here.
While you are waiting you could always obtain the link you were asked to provide in post #129.
Oh sorry, I guess I should have explained myself instead of just laughing at the silliness of your post and moving on. I'm not sure if I can show you a link to My OPINION unless you just want to read post #129 again. I can show you links of Obama using angry petty rhetoric that leads me to believe that he uses fear mongering and hatred as a way to galvanize his supporters if you want.
Thank you for acknowledging that you have nothing credible on which to base your erroneous opinion regarding Obama and the left.
Under Republican control in the House we have careened from fiscal crisis to fiscal crisis , shut down the government, threatened default TWICE and witnessed Biblical tantrums and brinksmanship rather than statesmanship.
All this from the party claiming responsibility as its best virtue.
That's what makes Americans so angry with Republicans.
I copied this from Ann Coulter's column and dare you to read it.
Responding to the peoples will, House Republicans first voted to fund all of government except Obamacare. Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it.
Then the Republicans voted to fully fund the government, but merely delay the implementation of Obamacare for one year. Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it.
Finally, the Republicans voted to fully fund the government, but added a requirement that everyone live under Obamacare. No more special waivers for Congress and their staff, and no waivers for big business without the same waivers for individuals.
Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it. So as you can see, Republicans are the big holdup here.
Too bad Coulter deliberately omitted the part about the prior 6 months when the Republicans flatly refused to negotiate on the budget at all. Instead they kept on passing those time wasting "repeal Obamacare" bills that they already knew were going nowhere. They could have used that time way more effectively by reaching a compromise with certain concessions on the ACA in return for other aspects that the Dems wanted. That is how the process was supposed to work but the Republicans choose to throw the rule book out of the window and use extortion instead to get their way. In the process they caused a great deal of harm to the American people and the reputation of this nation. Did Coulter omit that aspect too?
You won yet again on the budget/debt limit as the Republicans/conservatives/tea party got squat. It's quite a winning streak you have going.
- You got Obamacare
- Federal spending is soaring
- Taxes on the "rich" are going up
- The "poor" are not only not paying taxes but getting refunds of taxes they didn't pay
- State rights are reduced to only that which the Federal government decides to allow them
- We are doing little to nothing to secure our borders
- The Republican majority in the House is irrelevant and has no power
- Obama is doing what W did in the Middle East and W is still being blamed for it
- W is still being blamed for our economy five years after he left.
You are completely and utterly dominating the Republican party in every conceivable way and you have been for the last decade. So I don't get it, why are you still so angry? You have no tolerance, no empathy, no mercy for those you have utterly crushed. Why? What would it take to get you to pull the stick out? Aren't you getting enough?
because they want a one party system with an executive ruler, not a constitutional republic with a democratic porcess. They want drones in every discussion that will mirror the group think mentality they display and nothing short of full dominance will do.
Beyond that, they've spent the last 15 years or more blaming republicans for every single solitary issue or undesirable outcome of policies they too pushed forward. So naturally, they have gone to the extreme with the blaming and shit throwing. They don't realize it, but they are the tru radical extreme fascists in the US. They just blame the "opposition" for it.
They will be happy when everything they want at any time is given without any debate or argument. Not a second sooner. So either conform or soon they will go after not just republicans, but their own. Much like radical jihadists of the past who began offing each other as not radical enough.
Oh sorry, I guess I should have explained myself instead of just laughing at the silliness of your post and moving on. I'm not sure if I can show you a link to My OPINION unless you just want to read post #129 again. I can show you links of Obama using angry petty rhetoric that leads me to believe that he uses fear mongering and hatred as a way to galvanize his supporters if you want.
Thank you for acknowledging that you have nothing credible on which to base your erroneous opinion regarding Obama and the left.
If you disagree with my opinion you could simply say so. No need to get pissy. I'm still more than happy to show you statements that Obama has made in the past which I consider divisive and petty which leads me to believe that he uses anger and fear to gain support from his followers. This includes stoking fear about the effects of sequester to accusing republicans of being the enemy. Yes, I'm sure you agree with him but then again that was my original point. Obama leads by anger and fear.
I copied this from Ann Coulter's column and dare you to read it.
Too bad Coulter deliberately omitted the part about the prior 6 months when the Republicans flatly refused to negotiate on the budget at all. Instead they kept on passing those time wasting "repeal Obamacare" bills that they already knew were going nowhere. They could have used that time way more effectively by reaching a compromise with certain concessions on the ACA in return for other aspects that the Dems wanted. That is how the process was supposed to work but the Republicans choose to throw the rule book out of the window and use extortion instead to get their way. In the process they caused a great deal of harm to the American people and the reputation of this nation. Did Coulter omit that aspect too?
Too bad you don't realize the House legislated a reasonable House Budget Bill back in March 2013.......flatly rejected by the Democrat Senate from that day forward....
I copied this from Ann Coulter's column and dare you to read it.
Too bad Coulter deliberately omitted the part about the prior 6 months when the Republicans flatly refused to negotiate on the budget at all. Instead they kept on passing those time wasting "repeal Obamacare" bills that they already knew were going nowhere. They could have used that time way more effectively by reaching a compromise with certain concessions on the ACA in return for other aspects that the Dems wanted. That is how the process was supposed to work but the Republicans choose to throw the rule book out of the window and use extortion instead to get their way. In the process they caused a great deal of harm to the American people and the reputation of this nation. Did Coulter omit that aspect too?
Too bad you don't realize the House legislated a reasonable House Budget Bill back in March 2013.......flatly rejected by the Democrat Senate from that day forward....
BECAUSE YOU'VE WRECKED THE RECOVERY WITH PHONY CRISES and believe huge amounts of hateful bs...see op...
Pass a jobs bill, an immigration bill that would help the economy, and change the channel, fool.
You won yet again on the budget/debt limit as the Republicans/conservatives/tea party got squat. It's quite a winning streak you have going.
- You got Obamacare
- Federal spending is soaring
- Taxes on the "rich" are going up
- The "poor" are not only not paying taxes but getting refunds of taxes they didn't pay
- State rights are reduced to only that which the Federal government decides to allow them
- We are doing little to nothing to secure our borders
- The Republican majority in the House is irrelevant and has no power
- Obama is doing what W did in the Middle East and W is still being blamed for it
- W is still being blamed for our economy five years after he left.
You are completely and utterly dominating the Republican party in every conceivable way and you have been for the last decade. So I don't get it, why are you still so angry? You have no tolerance, no empathy, no mercy for those you have utterly crushed. Why? What would it take to get you to pull the stick out? Aren't you getting enough?
because they want a one party system with an executive ruler, not a constitutional republic with a democratic porcess. They want drones in every discussion that will mirror the group think mentality they display and nothing short of full dominance will do.
Beyond that, they've spent the last 15 years or more blaming republicans for every single solitary issue or undesirable outcome of policies they too pushed forward. So naturally, they have gone to the extreme with the blaming and shit throwing. They don't realize it, but they are the tru radical extreme fascists in the US. They just blame the "opposition" for it.
They will be happy when everything they want at any time is given without any debate or argument. Not a second sooner. So either conform or soon they will go after not just republicans, but their own. Much like radical jihadists of the past who began offing each other as not radical enough.
Oh Bullshit.
You guys aren't looking for a Democracy and have no interest in the Democratic process.
Over and over again, you folks are constantly stating "This is not a Democracy".
You folks have also stated, incorrectly, that "Voting is a privilege not a right". Additionally, the House has more Republicans than Democrats, even though the aggregate numbers of Democratic votes beat the Republican votes. Further more, we had a Republican President seated by the Supreme court who lost the popular vote.
What you folks want is a theocratic oligarchy, which sponsors corporate power.
And that's just not what's in the Constitution.
I copied this from Ann Coulter's column and dare you to read it.
Too bad Coulter deliberately omitted the part about the prior 6 months when the Republicans flatly refused to negotiate on the budget at all. Instead they kept on passing those time wasting "repeal Obamacare" bills that they already knew were going nowhere. They could have used that time way more effectively by reaching a compromise with certain concessions on the ACA in return for other aspects that the Dems wanted. That is how the process was supposed to work but the Republicans choose to throw the rule book out of the window and use extortion instead to get their way. In the process they caused a great deal of harm to the American people and the reputation of this nation. Did Coulter omit that aspect too?
Too bad you don't realize the House legislated a reasonable House Budget Bill back in March 2013.......flatly rejected by the Democrat Senate from that day forward....
Too bad Coulter deliberately omitted the part about the prior 6 months when the Republicans flatly refused to negotiate on the budget at all. Instead they kept on passing those time wasting "repeal Obamacare" bills that they already knew were going nowhere. They could have used that time way more effectively by reaching a compromise with certain concessions on the ACA in return for other aspects that the Dems wanted. That is how the process was supposed to work but the Republicans choose to throw the rule book out of the window and use extortion instead to get their way. In the process they caused a great deal of harm to the American people and the reputation of this nation. Did Coulter omit that aspect too?
Too bad you don't realize the House legislated a reasonable House Budget Bill back in March 2013.......flatly rejected by the Democrat Senate from that day forward....
It wasn't "reasonable" at all.
It put further cuts in social programs, reinstated funding cut by the sequester to the military, and revived Ryan's "voucher program" for Medicare.
It's not reasonable to resurrect a budget that was clearly the agenda of the candidates that lost.
The House is 1/3 of the Legislator and Republicans control little over 1/2 of that.
They aren't the "Deciders".
Thank you for acknowledging that you have nothing credible on which to base your erroneous opinion regarding Obama and the left.
If you disagree with my opinion you could simply say so. No need to get pissy. I'm still more than happy to show you statements that Obama has made in the past which I consider divisive and petty which leads me to believe that he uses anger and fear to gain support from his followers. This includes stoking fear about the effects of sequester to accusing republicans of being the enemy. Yes, I'm sure you agree with him but then again that was my original point. Obama leads by anger and fear.
That was what I asked you for in the first place. You refused to provide the link. Ergo you failed to substantiate your position. Feel free to do so now.
Too bad Coulter deliberately omitted the part about the prior 6 months when the Republicans flatly refused to negotiate on the budget at all. Instead they kept on passing those time wasting "repeal Obamacare" bills that they already knew were going nowhere. They could have used that time way more effectively by reaching a compromise with certain concessions on the ACA in return for other aspects that the Dems wanted. That is how the process was supposed to work but the Republicans choose to throw the rule book out of the window and use extortion instead to get their way. In the process they caused a great deal of harm to the American people and the reputation of this nation. Did Coulter omit that aspect too?
Too bad you don't realize the House legislated a reasonable House Budget Bill back in March 2013.......flatly rejected by the Democrat Senate from that day forward....
In which case you should be able to provide a link establishing that this "reasonable House Budget Bill" actually existed and that it did not contain any attempt to "defund Obamacare".
If you disagree with my opinion you could simply say so. No need to get pissy. I'm still more than happy to show you statements that Obama has made in the past which I consider divisive and petty which leads me to believe that he uses anger and fear to gain support from his followers. This includes stoking fear about the effects of sequester to accusing republicans of being the enemy. Yes, I'm sure you agree with him but then again that was my original point. Obama leads by anger and fear.
That was what I asked you for in the first place. You refused to provide the link. Ergo you failed to substantiate your position. Feel free to do so now.
I don't recall you asking for a link but ok
[ame=http://youtu.be/mDo02UOIx9A]Obama: Sequester is 'Meat Cleaver' Approach - YouTube[/ame]
FEAR
[ame=http://youtu.be/HxDC6DL3U74]Obama Angry Gun Law Fails in Front of Newtown Parents - YouTube[/ame]
Anger
The congress PASSED Obamacare, the Supreme Court ruled Obamacare constitutional, Romney ran on repealing Obamacare and was defeated.Under Republican control in the House we have careened from fiscal crisis to fiscal crisis , shut down the government, threatened default TWICE and witnessed Biblical tantrums and brinksmanship rather than statesmanship.You won yet again on the budget/debt limit as the Republicans/conservatives/tea party got squat. It's quite a winning streak you have going.
- You got Obamacare
- Federal spending is soaring
- Taxes on the "rich" are going up
- The "poor" are not only not paying taxes but getting refunds of taxes they didn't pay
- State rights are reduced to only that which the Federal government decides to allow them
- We are doing little to nothing to secure our borders
- The Republican majority in the House is irrelevant and has no power
- Obama is doing what W did in the Middle East and W is still being blamed for it
- W is still being blamed for our economy five years after he left.
You are completely and utterly dominating the Republican party in every conceivable way and you have been for the last decade. So I don't get it, why are you still so angry? You have no tolerance, no empathy, no mercy for those you have utterly crushed. Why? What would it take to get you to pull the stick out? Aren't you getting enough?
All this from the party claiming responsibility as its best virtue.
That's what makes Americans so angry with Republicans.
I copied this from Ann Coulter's column and dare you to read it.
Responding to the peoples will, House Republicans first voted to fund all of government except Obamacare. Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it.
Then the Republicans voted to fully fund the government, but merely delay the implementation of Obamacare for one year. Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it.
Finally, the Republicans voted to fully fund the government, but added a requirement that everyone live under Obamacare. No more special waivers for Congress and their staff, and no waivers for big business without the same waivers for individuals.
Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it. So as you can see, Republicans are the big holdup here.
Financial cost of the Iraq War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
According to a Congressional Budget Office (CBO) report published in October 2007, the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan could cost taxpayers a total of $2.4 trillion by 2017 when counting the huge interest costs because combat is being financed with borrowed money. The CBO estimated that of the $2.4 trillion long-term price tag for the war, about $1.9 trillion of that would be spent on Iraq, or $6,300 per U.S. citizen.[9][10]
Even IF you suggested that Obama didn't continue these wars, it only accounts for about 2.5 trillion by 2017.
You guys are retarded.
And that doesn't take into account the fact that he's added more wars over seas which aren't being watch dogged by LOLberal fucktards since Bush left office. They were anti-war with Bush and now they are all pro-war with Obama. Just like republicans became the anti-war group under Obama while they were pro-war under Bush.
It's that partisan log jam both sides are stuck in. In the end, you've failed to show that all the increased debt is a result of Bush and republicans. But that wont stop you from repeating it ad neaseum. Because that is your main and most important political tactic. Blame republicans for everything. Even though LOLberals voted to go into Iraq too. Its still all republicans an bush.
The congress PASSED Obamacare, the Supreme Court ruled Obamacare constitutional, Romney ran on repealing Obamacare and was defeated.Under Republican control in the House we have careened from fiscal crisis to fiscal crisis , shut down the government, threatened default TWICE and witnessed Biblical tantrums and brinksmanship rather than statesmanship.
All this from the party claiming responsibility as its best virtue.
That's what makes Americans so angry with Republicans.
I copied this from Ann Coulter's column and dare you to read it.
Responding to the peoples will, House Republicans first voted to fund all of government except Obamacare. Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it.
Then the Republicans voted to fully fund the government, but merely delay the implementation of Obamacare for one year. Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it.
Finally, the Republicans voted to fully fund the government, but added a requirement that everyone live under Obamacare. No more special waivers for Congress and their staff, and no waivers for big business without the same waivers for individuals.
Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it. So as you can see, Republicans are the big holdup here.
What the Tea Party wanted was for us to ignore a law passed by congress, ruled on by the Supreme Court and ignore the results of the election of 2012.
Of course the ransom called for by the Tea Party was non-negotiable. Because it passed, was ruled constitutional and the candidate wanting to repeal it was beaten.
The tactic used by the Tea Party was celebrated by the Tea Party, until it proved to be the debacle it was. Then the Tea Party refused to own its mistake. The blame for the shut down lies completely at the Tea Party doorstep. If they claim responsibility as a prime virtue, why are they trying to deflect blame for their mistake? It's as if they were hijackers, took over the plane and did not know how to fly it!
