Why pence is okay with FEMA camps for immigrant kids

[keepitreal]

What kind of parent, takes a kid on a dangerous trek across a desert with dangerous criminals?

when their 'home' is even more dangerous.

THEN THEY SHOULDN’T HAVE HAD KIDS

lol...love the fetus - hate the child.

don'tcha love them thar christian pro lifers & their 'every baby is precious & deserves to live' - when it really means is except after the cord is cut & just forget it if you are brown as well.
.

Mentally ill patients in Somaliland, north east Africa, chained up and beaten, a Human Rights Watch study reveals

Report found 'alarmingly high levels' of mental health down to violence of civil war, poverty and addiction to drugs

Patients forced into 'hospitals' where they are shackled by their ankles, force fed medication and beaten by guards

They are among the thousands of mental health sufferers locked up in cruel institutions and prisons across Africa

Same cruelty occurs in nations of South Sudan, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Uganda, Kenya and Nigeria

Abdi was chained up by his ankles in a dark room
almost every hour of the day for 14 months.

He was force fed powerful medication and when he resisted,
he was brutally beaten by guards
at the mental health ward in Somaliland, north east Africa.

Abdi, 35, was one of thousands of patients
forced into the country's cruel psychiatric institutes
where they endure torture, starvation and mind numbing loneliness,
a shocking investigation has revealed.

But these acts of cruelty are not limited to Somaliland,
an autonomous region of Somalia.
Mentally ill people in several Africa nations -
including Sudan, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Uganda,
Kenya and oil rich Nigeria - are chained to hospital beds,
put into prisons alongside dangerous criminals
or chained up by their own families.

Lonely: Ahmed Adan Ahmed (pictured), 13, was tied to a stick in a Somalian refugee camp by his mother who, like many people in Africa,
did not know how to deal with his mental health problems

Cast away: Thousands of mentally ill people across Africa,
including this women who was shackled to an engine part
in Juba Central Prison, South Sudan, are locked up in hospital wards
or in jails alongside criminals

Condemned: A shocking new investigation has revealed how patients
are chained and beaten in wards in Somaliland,
an autonomous region of Somalia, but patients (pictured in a South Sudanese prison) all over the continent are suffering the same abuse

At risk: A mentally disabled boy (pictured), eight, sleeps on the floor of a prison cell where 'high risk' male inmates are housed in a 'rehabilitation' centre outside of Port Harcourt, Nigeria

Discarded: The Home of Hope centre (pictured) in Jinja, Uganda, tries to care for abandoned children with mental health problems

THESE ARE THE CHILDREN
WHO SHOULD BE FLOWN HERE
AND BROUGHT TO AMERICA

THESE ARE CHILDREN IN NEED
THESE ARE CHILDREN WHO KNOW
HUNGER POVERTY NEED

DO THESE MOTHER FUCKERS
LOOK LIKE THEY AREN’T EATING
LOOK LIKE THEY WERE SUFFERING
FROM ABUSE IN THEIR HOMELAND

FUCK YOU AND THEM!

 

[bripat9643]

he isn't so much a Christian as he is a trumptian.

Pence is a dangerous man but I'm not sure I have a better idea on what to do in this case.

How about we improve the camps and make Big Government Mike come to us for permission on how to use his body's sticks and holes.

How about we stop peeing our pants about people that are no threat to us?

Agreed. The hysteria on here is hilarious. A good number of folks put in a solid 8 hour day worrying about illegals.

I'd double the immigration caps and maybe triple them but at some point SOMEONE is going to be sneaking themselves and their kids into the country and we'll have to do something with them. How bad are these FEMA camps?

Well a lawyer for the Administration said children didn't need toothbrushes or towels... With a bit more investigation we have 2 year olds minded by 7-8 year olds with no nappies... Children sleeping on concrete floors... No medical services... Lice and Flu epidemics...

And the Trump Lawyer trying to keep it that way... When did America get this low... This is not a case of unwilling to solve it, it is a case of refusing to...

Can you say how this is making America Great?

Nazi Pelosi caused the problem. Let her fix it.

 

[playtime]

seeking asylum is not a crime.

There are parameters for it otherwise its Fake but we know you love you some fake.

seeking asylum is not a crime & entering other than an official port of entry is a civil violation.

There are parameters for it and it’s not a function of simple desire.

it's not a c-r-i-m-e.

You keep restating a fallacy. It is a crime when done outside of the permitted parameters.

it is not a fallacy. trump changed the rule & this self made crisis is the result.

On November 9, the Departments of Justice and Homeland Security published a notice in the Federal Register that has become widely known as the “Asylum Ban.” In combination with a Presidential Proclamation issued the same day, the proposed rule intends to shut off asylum protections for those seeking entry to the United States outside regular processing at ports of entry. The Rule was published as the administration’s abusive practices on the border intensified, with border officials refusing entry to thousands of asylum seekers stranded in dangerous conditions in Mexico, left with no other choice but to attempt to cross between ports. Invoking exceptional circumstances that simply do not exist, the government published the notice as a so-called “Interim Final Rule,” meaning that the Rule became effective immediately and without the opportunity for meaningful public comment usually required by federal law.

The Rule is illegal and unethical. It is one more reminder of the Trump administration’s hostility toward refugees and asylum seekers. Despite the Rule’s immediate implementation, the Federal Register remained open for public comments through December 8th. The National Immigrant Justice Center and Human Rights First have challenged the legality of the Rule in federal court in OA v. Trump. Joined by more than 150 civil society organizations, we submitted our federal court complaint as our comment on the proposed rule, stating plainly: This rule is illegal. It is wrong. It must be rescinded.

Under the Immigration and Nationality Act, any individual who enters the United States, regardless of where or how they entered, is facially eligible to apply for asylum. This simple but critical provision of law was intended to implement the 1951 Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, to which the United States is party. By unambiguously violating the INA’s asylum protections, the Rule stands as a shameful abdication of the United States’ obligation to serve as a haven for those who meet the internationally agreed upon definition of a refugee. The Rule also violates provisions of U.S. federal law found in the Administrative Procedure Act and the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victim’s Protection Reauthorization Act.

Implementation of the asylum ban is currently enjoined and the subject of numerous lawsuits.

The Trump Administration Asked for Comments on its Illegal Asylum Ban, so We Submitted our Federal Court Complaint

 

[playtime]

What kind of parent, takes a kid on a dangerous trek across a desert with dangerous criminals?

when their 'home' is even more dangerous.

THEN THEY SHOULDN’T HAVE HAD KIDS

lol...love the fetus - hate the child.

don'tcha love them thar christian pro lifers & their 'every baby is precious & deserves to live' - when it really means is except after the cord is cut & just forget it if you are brown as well.
.

The fetus is a developing human,
whose life began inside the body at fertilization
and continues outside the womb until death

I’m pro responsibility

This has nothing to do with color
nor anything to do with being a Christian

it has everything to do with pro birth then all bets are off AND brown doesn't count at all.

 

[playtime]

What kind of parent, takes a kid on a dangerous trek across a desert with dangerous criminals?

when their 'home' is even more dangerous.

THEN THEY SHOULDN’T HAVE HAD KIDS

lol...love the fetus - hate the child.

don'tcha love them thar christian pro lifers & their 'every baby is precious & deserves to live' - when it really means is except after the cord is cut & just forget it if you are brown as well.
.

Mentally ill patients in Somaliland, north east Africa, chained up and beaten, a Human Rights Watch study reveals

Report found 'alarmingly high levels' of mental health down to violence of civil war, poverty and addiction to drugs

Patients forced into 'hospitals' where they are shackled by their ankles, force fed medication and beaten by guards

They are among the thousands of mental health sufferers locked up in cruel institutions and prisons across Africa

Same cruelty occurs in nations of South Sudan, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Uganda, Kenya and Nigeria

Abdi was chained up by his ankles in a dark room
almost every hour of the day for 14 months.

He was force fed powerful medication and when he resisted,
he was brutally beaten by guards
at the mental health ward in Somaliland, north east Africa.

Abdi, 35, was one of thousands of patients
forced into the country's cruel psychiatric institutes
where they endure torture, starvation and mind numbing loneliness,
a shocking investigation has revealed.

But these acts of cruelty are not limited to Somaliland,
an autonomous region of Somalia.
Mentally ill people in several Africa nations -
including Sudan, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Uganda,
Kenya and oil rich Nigeria - are chained to hospital beds,
put into prisons alongside dangerous criminals
or chained up by their own families.

Lonely: Ahmed Adan Ahmed (pictured), 13, was tied to a stick in a Somalian refugee camp by his mother who, like many people in Africa,
did not know how to deal with his mental health problems

Cast away: Thousands of mentally ill people across Africa,
including this women who was shackled to an engine part
in Juba Central Prison, South Sudan, are locked up in hospital wards
or in jails alongside criminals

Condemned: A shocking new investigation has revealed how patients
are chained and beaten in wards in Somaliland,
an autonomous region of Somalia, but patients (pictured in a South Sudanese prison) all over the continent are suffering the same abuse

At risk: A mentally disabled boy (pictured), eight, sleeps on the floor of a prison cell where 'high risk' male inmates are housed in a 'rehabilitation' centre outside of Port Harcourt, Nigeria

Discarded: The Home of Hope centre (pictured) in Jinja, Uganda, tries to care for abandoned children with mental health problems

THESE ARE THE CHILDREN
WHO SHOULD BE FLOWN HERE
AND BROUGHT TO AMERICA

THESE ARE CHILDREN IN NEED
THESE ARE CHILDREN WHO KNOW
HUNGER POVERTY NEED

DO THESE MOTHER FUCKERS
LOOK LIKE THEY AREN’T EATING
LOOK LIKE THEY WERE SUFFERING
FROM ABUSE IN THEIR HOMELAND

FUCK YOU AND THEM!

save your faux indignation for someone willing to believe you give a damn about ANY of them.

 

[bripat9643]

There are parameters for it otherwise its Fake but we know you love you some fake.

seeking asylum is not a crime & entering other than an official port of entry is a civil violation.

There are parameters for it and it’s not a function of simple desire.

it's not a c-r-i-m-e.

You keep restating a fallacy. It is a crime when done outside of the permitted parameters.

it is not a fallacy. trump changed the rule & this self made crisis is the result.

On November 9, the Departments of Justice and Homeland Security published a notice in the Federal Register that has become widely known as the “Asylum Ban.” In combination with a Presidential Proclamation issued the same day, the proposed rule intends to shut off asylum protections for those seeking entry to the United States outside regular processing at ports of entry. The Rule was published as the administration’s abusive practices on the border intensified, with border officials refusing entry to thousands of asylum seekers stranded in dangerous conditions in Mexico, left with no other choice but to attempt to cross between ports. Invoking exceptional circumstances that simply do not exist, the government published the notice as a so-called “Interim Final Rule,” meaning that the Rule became effective immediately and without the opportunity for meaningful public comment usually required by federal law.

The Rule is illegal and unethical. It is one more reminder of the Trump administration’s hostility toward refugees and asylum seekers. Despite the Rule’s immediate implementation, the Federal Register remained open for public comments through December 8th. The National Immigrant Justice Center and Human Rights First have challenged the legality of the Rule in federal court in OA v. Trump. Joined by more than 150 civil society organizations, we submitted our federal court complaint as our comment on the proposed rule, stating plainly: This rule is illegal. It is wrong. It must be rescinded.

Under the Immigration and Nationality Act, any individual who enters the United States, regardless of where or how they entered, is facially eligible to apply for asylum. This simple but critical provision of law was intended to implement the 1951 Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, to which the United States is party. By unambiguously violating the INA’s asylum protections, the Rule stands as a shameful abdication of the United States’ obligation to serve as a haven for those who meet the internationally agreed upon definition of a refugee. The Rule also violates provisions of U.S. federal law found in the Administrative Procedure Act and the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victim’s Protection Reauthorization Act.

Implementation of the asylum ban is currently enjoined and the subject of numerous lawsuits.

The Trump Administration Asked for Comments on its Illegal Asylum Ban, so We Submitted our Federal Court Complaint

There's nothing illegal or unethical about it. In fact, the rules that judges have imposed on immigration, like the fact that detainees have to be released into the general public, are just plain stupid and intended to aggravate the immigration problem. Blaming this situation Trump is about as low, sleazy and dishonest as you can get.

 

[keepitreal]

What kind of parent, takes a kid on a dangerous trek across a desert with dangerous criminals?

when their 'home' is even more dangerous.

THEN THEY SHOULDN’T HAVE HAD KIDS

lol...love the fetus - hate the child.

don'tcha love them thar christian pro lifers & their 'every baby is precious & deserves to live' - when it really means is except after the cord is cut & just forget it if you are brown as well.
.

Mentally ill patients in Somaliland, north east Africa, chained up and beaten, a Human Rights Watch study reveals

Report found 'alarmingly high levels' of mental health down to violence of civil war, poverty and addiction to drugs

Patients forced into 'hospitals' where they are shackled by their ankles, force fed medication and beaten by guards

They are among the thousands of mental health sufferers locked up in cruel institutions and prisons across Africa

Same cruelty occurs in nations of South Sudan, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Uganda, Kenya and Nigeria

Abdi was chained up by his ankles in a dark room
almost every hour of the day for 14 months.

He was force fed powerful medication and when he resisted,
he was brutally beaten by guards
at the mental health ward in Somaliland, north east Africa.

Abdi, 35, was one of thousands of patients
forced into the country's cruel psychiatric institutes
where they endure torture, starvation and mind numbing loneliness,
a shocking investigation has revealed.

But these acts of cruelty are not limited to Somaliland,
an autonomous region of Somalia.
Mentally ill people in several Africa nations -
including Sudan, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Uganda,
Kenya and oil rich Nigeria - are chained to hospital beds,
put into prisons alongside dangerous criminals
or chained up by their own families.

Lonely: Ahmed Adan Ahmed (pictured), 13, was tied to a stick in a Somalian refugee camp by his mother who, like many people in Africa,
did not know how to deal with his mental health problems

Cast away: Thousands of mentally ill people across Africa,
including this women who was shackled to an engine part
in Juba Central Prison, South Sudan, are locked up in hospital wards
or in jails alongside criminals

Condemned: A shocking new investigation has revealed how patients
are chained and beaten in wards in Somaliland,
an autonomous region of Somalia, but patients (pictured in a South Sudanese prison) all over the continent are suffering the same abuse

At risk: A mentally disabled boy (pictured), eight, sleeps on the floor of a prison cell where 'high risk' male inmates are housed in a 'rehabilitation' centre outside of Port Harcourt, Nigeria

Discarded: The Home of Hope centre (pictured) in Jinja, Uganda, tries to care for abandoned children with mental health problems

THESE ARE THE CHILDREN
WHO SHOULD BE FLOWN HERE
AND BROUGHT TO AMERICA

THESE ARE CHILDREN IN NEED
THESE ARE CHILDREN WHO KNOW
HUNGER POVERTY NEED

DO THESE MOTHER FUCKERS
LOOK LIKE THEY AREN’T EATING
LOOK LIKE THEY WERE SUFFERING
FROM ABUSE IN THEIR HOMELAND

FUCK YOU AND THEM!

save your faux indignation for someone willing to believe you give a damn about ANY of them.

I don’t give a flying fuck what you believe
concerning who I give a damn about

What do YOU have to say?

 

[playtime]

when their 'home' is even more dangerous.

THEN THEY SHOULDN’T HAVE HAD KIDS

lol...love the fetus - hate the child.

don'tcha love them thar christian pro lifers & their 'every baby is precious & deserves to live' - when it really means is except after the cord is cut & just forget it if you are brown as well.
.

Mentally ill patients in Somaliland, north east Africa, chained up and beaten, a Human Rights Watch study reveals

Report found 'alarmingly high levels' of mental health down to violence of civil war, poverty and addiction to drugs

Patients forced into 'hospitals' where they are shackled by their ankles, force fed medication and beaten by guards

They are among the thousands of mental health sufferers locked up in cruel institutions and prisons across Africa

Same cruelty occurs in nations of South Sudan, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Uganda, Kenya and Nigeria

Abdi was chained up by his ankles in a dark room
almost every hour of the day for 14 months.

He was force fed powerful medication and when he resisted,
he was brutally beaten by guards
at the mental health ward in Somaliland, north east Africa.

Abdi, 35, was one of thousands of patients
forced into the country's cruel psychiatric institutes
where they endure torture, starvation and mind numbing loneliness,
a shocking investigation has revealed.

But these acts of cruelty are not limited to Somaliland,
an autonomous region of Somalia.
Mentally ill people in several Africa nations -
including Sudan, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Uganda,
Kenya and oil rich Nigeria - are chained to hospital beds,
put into prisons alongside dangerous criminals
or chained up by their own families.

Lonely: Ahmed Adan Ahmed (pictured), 13, was tied to a stick in a Somalian refugee camp by his mother who, like many people in Africa,
did not know how to deal with his mental health problems

Cast away: Thousands of mentally ill people across Africa,
including this women who was shackled to an engine part
in Juba Central Prison, South Sudan, are locked up in hospital wards
or in jails alongside criminals

Condemned: A shocking new investigation has revealed how patients
are chained and beaten in wards in Somaliland,
an autonomous region of Somalia, but patients (pictured in a South Sudanese prison) all over the continent are suffering the same abuse

At risk: A mentally disabled boy (pictured), eight, sleeps on the floor of a prison cell where 'high risk' male inmates are housed in a 'rehabilitation' centre outside of Port Harcourt, Nigeria

Discarded: The Home of Hope centre (pictured) in Jinja, Uganda, tries to care for abandoned children with mental health problems

THESE ARE THE CHILDREN
WHO SHOULD BE FLOWN HERE
AND BROUGHT TO AMERICA

THESE ARE CHILDREN IN NEED
THESE ARE CHILDREN WHO KNOW
HUNGER POVERTY NEED

DO THESE MOTHER FUCKERS
LOOK LIKE THEY AREN’T EATING
LOOK LIKE THEY WERE SUFFERING
FROM ABUSE IN THEIR HOMELAND

FUCK YOU AND THEM!

save your faux indignation for someone willing to believe you give a damn about ANY of them.

I don’t give a flying fuck what you believe
concerning who I give a damn about

What do YOU have to say?

have them make a claim for asylum, get adjudicated & if deemed valid, let them in.

see? I am consistent.

 

[Lakhota]

DISTURBING: Photo Of Drowned Father And Daughter Highlights Migrants’ Tragic Struggles

Óscar Alberto Martínez Ramírez and daughter Valeria drowned on the bank of the Rio Grande.

DISTURBING: Photo Of Drowned Father And Daughter Highlights Migrants' Tragic Struggles

Trump's immigration policies are a national nightmare! We should all be ashamed.

 

[bripat9643]

DISTURBING: Photo Of Drowned Father And Daughter Highlights Migrants’ Tragic Struggles

Óscar Alberto Martínez Ramírez and daughter Valeria drowned on the bank of the Rio Grande.

DISTURBING: Photo Of Drowned Father And Daughter Highlights Migrants' Tragic Struggles

Trump's immigration policies are a national nightmare! We should all be ashamed.

You can blame that on Nazi Pelosi and Company since they are encouraging illegal immigration. I don't know how you rationalize blaming it on Trump. If the wall was built, this kind of thing wouldn't happen.

Trump haters are open borders douchebags. Nothing could be more obvious than the fact that they are trying to open the flood gates. I don't know how any patriotic American can rationalize voting for these vermin.

 

[bripat9643]

THEN THEY SHOULDN’T HAVE HAD KIDS

lol...love the fetus - hate the child.

don'tcha love them thar christian pro lifers & their 'every baby is precious & deserves to live' - when it really means is except after the cord is cut & just forget it if you are brown as well.
.

Mentally ill patients in Somaliland, north east Africa, chained up and beaten, a Human Rights Watch study reveals

Report found 'alarmingly high levels' of mental health down to violence of civil war, poverty and addiction to drugs

Patients forced into 'hospitals' where they are shackled by their ankles, force fed medication and beaten by guards

They are among the thousands of mental health sufferers locked up in cruel institutions and prisons across Africa

Same cruelty occurs in nations of South Sudan, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Uganda, Kenya and Nigeria

Abdi was chained up by his ankles in a dark room
almost every hour of the day for 14 months.

He was force fed powerful medication and when he resisted,
he was brutally beaten by guards
at the mental health ward in Somaliland, north east Africa.

Abdi, 35, was one of thousands of patients
forced into the country's cruel psychiatric institutes
where they endure torture, starvation and mind numbing loneliness,
a shocking investigation has revealed.

But these acts of cruelty are not limited to Somaliland,
an autonomous region of Somalia.
Mentally ill people in several Africa nations -
including Sudan, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Uganda,
Kenya and oil rich Nigeria - are chained to hospital beds,
put into prisons alongside dangerous criminals
or chained up by their own families.

Lonely: Ahmed Adan Ahmed (pictured), 13, was tied to a stick in a Somalian refugee camp by his mother who, like many people in Africa,
did not know how to deal with his mental health problems

Cast away: Thousands of mentally ill people across Africa,
including this women who was shackled to an engine part
in Juba Central Prison, South Sudan, are locked up in hospital wards
or in jails alongside criminals

Condemned: A shocking new investigation has revealed how patients
are chained and beaten in wards in Somaliland,
an autonomous region of Somalia, but patients (pictured in a South Sudanese prison) all over the continent are suffering the same abuse

At risk: A mentally disabled boy (pictured), eight, sleeps on the floor of a prison cell where 'high risk' male inmates are housed in a 'rehabilitation' centre outside of Port Harcourt, Nigeria

Discarded: The Home of Hope centre (pictured) in Jinja, Uganda, tries to care for abandoned children with mental health problems

THESE ARE THE CHILDREN
WHO SHOULD BE FLOWN HERE
AND BROUGHT TO AMERICA

THESE ARE CHILDREN IN NEED
THESE ARE CHILDREN WHO KNOW
HUNGER POVERTY NEED

DO THESE MOTHER FUCKERS
LOOK LIKE THEY AREN’T EATING
LOOK LIKE THEY WERE SUFFERING
FROM ABUSE IN THEIR HOMELAND

FUCK YOU AND THEM!

save your faux indignation for someone willing to believe you give a damn about ANY of them.

I don’t give a flying fuck what you believe
concerning who I give a damn about

What do YOU have to say?

have them make a claim for asylum, get adjudicated & if deemed valid, let them in.

see? I am consistent.

You're consistently a douchebag.

 

[bripat9643]

he isn't so much a Christian as he is a trumptian.

You people are so full of lies and evil.

Christians have been helping the people at the boarder the entire time. I myself have support with money, charities that help those at the boarder.

Tell me, you walking trash... what have you done?

By the way, it's your left-wing democraps that have prevented anything from being done to help those people.

Trump offered a solution, and you rejected it. It's up to Congress... YOUR congress... the allocate the funds from Planned Parent Hood, and move that money from killing babies, to helping children. You and your scum sucking trash in government, have chosen not to.

So don't complain about how other people don't care, when you are the least caring people on this planet. You people are not even human.

Yes those trumpers worry about the embryo but screw the kids in concentration camps starving and dying HYPOCRITES and scum

Yeah, right, Republicans want children to die.

You're such a sleazy disgusting scumbag.

 

[edward37]

he isn't so much a Christian as he is a trumptian.

You people are so full of lies and evil.

Christians have been helping the people at the boarder the entire time. I myself have support with money, charities that help those at the boarder.

Tell me, you walking trash... what have you done?

By the way, it's your left-wing democraps that have prevented anything from being done to help those people.

Trump offered a solution, and you rejected it. It's up to Congress... YOUR congress... the allocate the funds from Planned Parent Hood, and move that money from killing babies, to helping children. You and your scum sucking trash in government, have chosen not to.

So don't complain about how other people don't care, when you are the least caring people on this planet. You people are not even human.

Yes those trumpers worry about the embryo but screw the kids in concentration camps starving and dying HYPOCRITES and scum

Yeah, right, Republicans want children to die.

You're such a sleazy disgusting scumbag.

No showers no diapers, no clothes no tooth brushes or paste no food sleeping on blankets not beds Good going all you pro life BS artists

 

[bripat9643]

You people are so full of lies and evil.

Christians have been helping the people at the boarder the entire time. I myself have support with money, charities that help those at the boarder.

Tell me, you walking trash... what have you done?

By the way, it's your left-wing democraps that have prevented anything from being done to help those people.

Trump offered a solution, and you rejected it. It's up to Congress... YOUR congress... the allocate the funds from Planned Parent Hood, and move that money from killing babies, to helping children. You and your scum sucking trash in government, have chosen not to.

So don't complain about how other people don't care, when you are the least caring people on this planet. You people are not even human.

Yes those trumpers worry about the embryo but screw the kids in concentration camps starving and dying HYPOCRITES and scum

Yeah, right, Republicans want children to die.

You're such a sleazy disgusting scumbag.

No showers no diapers, no clothes no tooth brushes or paste no food sleeping on blankets not beds Good going all you pro life BS artists

According to whom?

 

[Slade3200]

You’re challenges and perspectives are not in question... those of immigrants are. That’s what we are discussing

Of course they aren't. Because you don't about them. To you, understanding is a one way street.


It is on US to understand them, not the other way around.


That is why your entire argument is sophist nonsense, provided for the sole purpose of dressing up the fact that all you are doing it telling me to shut up and be lectured to.

What are you talking about? You keep moving the goalpost. You asked a question about why people would take their children on a dangerous trek. You can’t turn it around in the same conversation and condemn me for not understanding your struggles... this conversation has nothing to do with you. If you want to make it about you then pose another question and we can discuss it.

I made a point about a parent taking their children on a dangerous trek.


YOU challenged my ability to judge people with different life experiences. I did not accuse you of moving the goal posts, because it was a relevant to the topic to challenge my ability to make a judgement.


And so we discussed that back and forth a little.


Now we have reached the end of that, and I have pointed out that your desire for understanding is not equal on both parties.


For if your concept of needing to do the work to understand each other is to be valid at all, the understanding must go both ways.


If not, you need to explain, why it is important for me to understand them, but they can ignore me and my concerns.



Because otherwise, it looks like you are just employing sophist nonsense for the sole purpose of dressing up the fact that all you are doing it telling me to shut up and be lectured to.

How do you know they are ignoring your concerns if youve never engaged with them?

You are hear speaking for them, and you are ignoring my perspective and experiences.

You’re challenges and perspectives are not in question... those of immigrants are. That’s what we are discussing

Of course they aren't. Because you don't about them. To you, understanding is a one way street.


It is on US to understand them, not the other way around.


That is why your entire argument is sophist nonsense, provided for the sole purpose of dressing up the fact that all you are doing it telling me to shut up and be lectured to.

What are you talking about? You keep moving the goalpost. You asked a question about why people would take their children on a dangerous trek. You can’t turn it around in the same conversation and condemn me for not understanding your struggles... this conversation has nothing to do with you. If you want to make it about you then pose another question and we can discuss it.

I made a point about a parent taking their children on a dangerous trek.


YOU challenged my ability to judge people with different life experiences. I did not accuse you of moving the goal posts, because it was a relevant to the topic to challenge my ability to make a judgement.


And so we discussed that back and forth a little.


Now we have reached the end of that, and I have pointed out that your desire for understanding is not equal on both parties.


For if your concept of needing to do the work to understand each other is to be valid at all, the understanding must go both ways.


If not, you need to explain, why it is important for me to understand them, but they can ignore me and my concerns.



Because otherwise, it looks like you are just employing sophist nonsense for the sole purpose of dressing up the fact that all you are doing it telling me to shut up and be lectured to.

How do you know they are ignoring your concerns if youve never engaged with them?

You are hear speaking for them, and you are ignoring my perspective and experiences.

im not ignoring you. I’m listening to your perspective and I’m suggesting you stop imagining what you would do and actually engage with the people you are judging if you really want to learn more about their plight

 

[Leo123]

Tell us your concern of all those little babies in mothers stomachs and then your concern for all those in trumps concentration camps Repubs are HYPOCRITES

That has nothing to do with what I posted. You are just regurgitating radical-Democrat-leftist talking points.

 

[Dragonlady]

Yes those trumpers worry about the embryo but screw the kids in concentration camps starving and dying HYPOCRITES and scum

Yeah, right, Republicans want children to die.

You're such a sleazy disgusting scumbag.

No showers no diapers, no clothes no tooth brushes or paste no food sleeping on blankets not beds Good going all you pro life BS artists

According to whom?

The childrens’ lawyers, the government’s lawyer’s in court the other day, FEMA workers, ICE workers and the border patrol.

 

[Dragonlady]

Yes those trumpers worry about the embryo but screw the kids in concentration camps starving and dying HYPOCRITES and scum

Yeah, right, Republicans want children to die.

You're such a sleazy disgusting scumbag.

No showers no diapers, no clothes no tooth brushes or paste no food sleeping on blankets not beds Good going all you pro life BS artists

According to whom?

The childrens’ lawyers, the government’s lawyer’s in court the other day, FEMA workers, ICE workers and the border patrol.

 

[Dragonlady]

he isn't so much a Christian as he is a trumptian.

You people are so full of lies and evil.

Christians have been helping the people at the boarder the entire time. I myself have support with money, charities that help those at the boarder.

Tell me, you walking trash... what have you done?

By the way, it's your left-wing democraps that have prevented anything from being done to help those people.

Trump offered a solution, and you rejected it. It's up to Congress... YOUR congress... the allocate the funds from Planned Parent Hood, and move that money from killing babies, to helping children. You and your scum sucking trash in government, have chosen not to.

So don't complain about how other people don't care, when you are the least caring people on this planet. You people are not even human.

Yes those trumpers worry about the embryo but screw the kids in concentration camps starving and dying HYPOCRITES and scum

Yeah, right, Republicans want children to die.

You're such a sleazy disgusting scumbag.

Do you have anything of substance to contribute to the discussion or are you going to shit there bullshit and insults like some monkey

he isn't so much a Christian as he is a trumptian.

You people are so full of lies and evil.

Christians have been helping the people at the boarder the entire time. I myself have support with money, charities that help those at the boarder.

Tell me, you walking trash... what have you done?

By the way, it's your left-wing democraps that have prevented anything from being done to help those people.

Trump offered a solution, and you rejected it. It's up to Congress... YOUR congress... the allocate the funds from Planned Parent Hood, and move that money from killing babies, to helping children. You and your scum sucking trash in government, have chosen not to.

So don't complain about how other people don't care, when you are the least caring people on this planet. You people are not even human.

Yes those trumpers worry about the embryo but screw the kids in concentration camps starving and dying HYPOCRITES and scum

Yeah, right, Republicans want children to die.

You're such a sleazy disgusting scumbag.

There can be no other conclusion. Republicans are only concerned with the fetus, once a child is born, especially a brown child, they're on their own. Trump just shrugs and says when he gets what he wants, the children will be cared for.

 

[bripat9643]

You people are so full of lies and evil.

Christians have been helping the people at the boarder the entire time. I myself have support with money, charities that help those at the boarder.

Tell me, you walking trash... what have you done?

By the way, it's your left-wing democraps that have prevented anything from being done to help those people.

Trump offered a solution, and you rejected it. It's up to Congress... YOUR congress... the allocate the funds from Planned Parent Hood, and move that money from killing babies, to helping children. You and your scum sucking trash in government, have chosen not to.

So don't complain about how other people don't care, when you are the least caring people on this planet. You people are not even human.

Yes those trumpers worry about the embryo but screw the kids in concentration camps starving and dying HYPOCRITES and scum

Yeah, right, Republicans want children to die.

You're such a sleazy disgusting scumbag.

Do you have anything of substance to contribute to the discussion or are you going to shit there bullshit and insults like some monkey

You people are so full of lies and evil.

Christians have been helping the people at the boarder the entire time. I myself have support with money, charities that help those at the boarder.

Tell me, you walking trash... what have you done?

By the way, it's your left-wing democraps that have prevented anything from being done to help those people.

Trump offered a solution, and you rejected it. It's up to Congress... YOUR congress... the allocate the funds from Planned Parent Hood, and move that money from killing babies, to helping children. You and your scum sucking trash in government, have chosen not to.

So don't complain about how other people don't care, when you are the least caring people on this planet. You people are not even human.

Yes those trumpers worry about the embryo but screw the kids in concentration camps starving and dying HYPOCRITES and scum

Yeah, right, Republicans want children to die.

You're such a sleazy disgusting scumbag.

There can be no other conclusion. Republicans are only concerned with the fetus, once a child is born, especially a brown child, they're on their own. Trump just shrugs and says when he gets what he wants, the children will be cared for.

That's actually what Nazi Pelosi says, you sleazy lying piece of shit. She's the one trying to put conditions on increasing the resources allocated for handling children apprehended at border.