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You either want a society where all kids get an opportunity for a basic education or you don't. That's all this amounts to.
I agreeRIGGhhttt.....can ya show me their free college plansWonder if Bernie has any idea why college has become so expensive.....
Bernie was on welfare himself until he was forty years of age. Bernie has never earned a living. He's like Obama. He never ran a business and never really got any of his own Bills passed in his 25 years of Congress.
Neither has Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio
Both Cruz and Rubio don't give a shit about education....it is a privilege of the rich
Welcome to socialism, take and never earn.They EARNED those scholarships and grants by keeping their grades up dumass. Now, say it with me shitforbrains - EARN. Now, let's use it in a sentence: responsible people EARN what they they want in life; not expecting free handouts just for existing.Nope. You are talking out of your ass.
And....thank the benefactors who helped pay for your daughters to attend college. That would be those who care about the future of this nation.
Sorry. You are fooling yourself. I'm sure your girls are wonderful. But...they are no better and work no harder than many who don't have the opportunity that they have had. You shouldn't pretend that they are.
What is it like to live in a world where you can prosper without effort? It must be great to live in your world where one can sit on their ass and prosper.
I've never said that. Why are you saying that I did?
Exactly.You either want a society where all kids get an opportunity for a basic education or you don't. That's all this amounts to.
College is "basic education" now?
Given the value of an education beyond K - 12 nowadays for economic opportunity in the US today I'd say yes definitely.
I include post HS vocational/trade education in that, btw.
Not everyone can complete college and that is the truth.
Not everyone completes HS either. I guess you're arguing for making all education available only to those who can pay.
Damn boy...If that's what you believe, then why should government pay for anyone to go to college? Isn't it "their problem?"
It is something that benefits society....you might even say it helps the General Welfare
The average person gives a rats ass about society when choosing a carreer. Think about that for a moment. In fact, I can't think of anyone who gets a job in order to benefit society. They do it for themselves and nothing else.
Are you ever thick
All jobs benefit society in their own way. Having an educated workforce benefits a society more than having an illiterate one wouldn't you agree?
So sick of Democrats using "society" as a means to get more from taxpayers. If we say how the wealthy benefit society, liberals have a heart attack.
This has nothing to do with society. An advanced education helps one person--the person getting that education. It's not like we have a shortage of kids going to college these days.
What we have a shortage of is affordable post secondary education
Wonder if Bernie has any idea why college has become so expensive.....
Bernie was on welfare himself until he was forty years of age. Bernie has never earned a living. He's like Obama. He never ran a business and never really got any of his own Bills passed in his 25 years of Congress.
Said the guy who grew up when we had a middle class created by liberals.
I'm telling you what socialism is...Welcome to socialism, take and never earn.They EARNED those scholarships and grants by keeping their grades up dumass. Now, say it with me shitforbrains - EARN. Now, let's use it in a sentence: responsible people EARN what they they want in life; not expecting free handouts just for existing.
Sorry. You are fooling yourself. I'm sure your girls are wonderful. But...they are no better and work no harder than many who don't have the opportunity that they have had. You shouldn't pretend that they are.
What is it like to live in a world where you can prosper without effort? It must be great to live in your world where one can sit on their ass and prosper.
I've never said that. Why are you saying that I did?
Are you trying to tell me that you think I am a taker?
Sanders does not want everyone to go to collegeExactly.You either want a society where all kids get an opportunity for a basic education or you don't. That's all this amounts to.
College is "basic education" now?
Given the value of an education beyond K - 12 nowadays for economic opportunity in the US today I'd say yes definitely.
I include post HS vocational/trade education in that, btw.
Not everyone can complete college and that is the truth.
Not everyone completes HS either. I guess you're arguing for making all education available only to those who can pay.
That's what this is really about: blind adherence to failed, wrongheaded rightwing dogma, which maintains that those who cannot afford to go to college shouldn't have the opportunity.
This illustrates the idiocy of both extremes, where Sanders' advocacy of 'college for everyone' is naïve and unfounded, and the right's notion that only those who can afford it should go to college, which is reprehensible and wrong.
Never went did you?Damn boy...It is something that benefits society....you might even say it helps the General Welfare
The average person gives a rats ass about society when choosing a carreer. Think about that for a moment. In fact, I can't think of anyone who gets a job in order to benefit society. They do it for themselves and nothing else.
Are you ever thick
All jobs benefit society in their own way. Having an educated workforce benefits a society more than having an illiterate one wouldn't you agree?
So sick of Democrats using "society" as a means to get more from taxpayers. If we say how the wealthy benefit society, liberals have a heart attack.
This has nothing to do with society. An advanced education helps one person--the person getting that education. It's not like we have a shortage of kids going to college these days.
What we have a shortage of is affordable post secondary education
Well that's what you get with these liberal colleges. Those evil greedy professors and college administrators who are not paying their fair share.
He wants everyone's bank account to be accessible by the federal government... LolSanders does not want everyone to go to collegeExactly.College is "basic education" now?
Given the value of an education beyond K - 12 nowadays for economic opportunity in the US today I'd say yes definitely.
I include post HS vocational/trade education in that, btw.
Not everyone can complete college and that is the truth.
Not everyone completes HS either. I guess you're arguing for making all education available only to those who can pay.
That's what this is really about: blind adherence to failed, wrongheaded rightwing dogma, which maintains that those who cannot afford to go to college shouldn't have the opportunity.
This illustrates the idiocy of both extremes, where Sanders' advocacy of 'college for everyone' is naïve and unfounded, and the right's notion that only those who can afford it should go to college, which is reprehensible and wrong.
But he wants college accessible to everyone
A professor is just someone that failed at a real life...While we are going to give everyone a college degree why not give everyone a PHD? Everyone can be professors. Yes we can! That guy at Cirlcle K who can't count back the right change to you will now be a professor. Isn't America great! Every dumbshit in the world can be a professor. We have already proven any dumbshit can be a professor with Obama so why shouldn't every dumbshit get the same opportunity as the president?
Our troops don't get a free education, they have to pay into it
With Sanders plan they would go for free
Free? There is no such thing as "free". Someone is paying for it.
Then why do conservatives express broad support for 'free trade' and 'free markets'?
Exactly.You either want a society where all kids get an opportunity for a basic education or you don't. That's all this amounts to.
College is "basic education" now?
Given the value of an education beyond K - 12 nowadays for economic opportunity in the US today I'd say yes definitely.
I include post HS vocational/trade education in that, btw.
Not everyone can complete college and that is the truth.
Not everyone completes HS either. I guess you're arguing for making all education available only to those who can pay.
That's what this is really about: blind adherence to failed, wrongheaded rightwing dogma, which maintains that those who cannot afford to go to college shouldn't have the opportunity.
This illustrates the idiocy of both extremes, where Sanders' advocacy of 'college for everyone' is naïve and unfounded, and the right's notion that only those who can afford it should go to college, which is reprehensible and wrong.
The conservative war on the poor rolls on.
There are thousands of employers looking for workers with not just a college education but a tradeShould we charge people to go to high schools ?
That's not the question. Let's take some more of your logic. Since High Schools are essential to young people, what are your thoughts on food? That's pretty essential, too. Should food be free as well? It'll certainly keep you alive longer than a diploma would.
Honestly, I don't think a high school diploma is absolutely necessary for life. There are plenty of people who are able to provide for themselves without one. The other thing to consider with "diplomas for everyone" is the fact that once everyone gets one they become absolutely worthless. At that point, it does no one absolutely no good at all.
That sums you up... You don't know how important an educated workforce is to an economy...
It is shown in your treatment of the President... Obama is an intelligent well educated man that is under no question.
You just continue how ignorant you are...
Once everyone gets a FREE PHD from the government then Obama is no longer that educated. I know that an education is kind of worthless if their isn't an employer who thinks it is worth something. It is people like you who detest the capitalist system, does everything in their power to destroy it, and then benefits from it at that same time. It seems kind of hypocritical if you ask me.
Those who are less skilled or motivated would still be available for low skilled labor
That is not what I proposedIt is freedom.How bout this?
Free houses
If you normally pay $1000 a month mortgage, you pay an addititional $750 a month in taxes and live in a house provided by the government. Live in it twenty years and it is yours
Government uses the power of large markets and buys land and prefabricated components in bulk to build low cost houses.
If you don't want a government built house, you can still buy your own
I don't want government to feed me, I don't want government telling me where to live, I don't want government providing me healthcare, I don't want government wiping me when I'm done using the toilet.
My mother did these things for me when I was a child. I'm grown up now and don't need government to be my new mother.
I hear you. Most of these morons are happy to be led around by the nose and told what to do. They call that freedom. What a laugher.
Nobody is forcing you to live in a government provided house, but your housing costs would be a lot less if you do
Why do you deny it to others?
The government would be forcing you to pay taxes to fund this idiocy, you dumb fucking moron.
If you want to live in a government provided house, you pay $750 a month extra in tax instead of a $1000 a month mortgage
Why would you oppose it?
The conservative war on the poor rolls on.
And another brainless liberal who doesn't know what to say falls back on some fabricated class war nonsense. Too predictable.
How does depriving the poor of educational opportunity make their lives better?
Good god...what a horrible view of our world
If you can't afford a decent standard of living....your problem loser
In the richest country in the world
If that's what you believe, then why should government pay for anyone to go to college? Isn't it "their problem?"
It is something that benefits society....you might even say it helps the General Welfare
