Why stop at free college?

[LoneLaugher]

Sorry. You are fooling yourself. I'm sure your girls are wonderful. But...they are no better and work no harder than many who don't have the opportunity that they have had. You shouldn't pretend that they are.

What is it like to live in a world where you can prosper without effort? It must be great to live in your world where one can sit on their ass and prosper.

I've never said that. Why are you saying that I did?

Welcome to socialism, take and never earn.

Are you trying to tell me that you think I am a taker?

I'm telling you what socialism is...
Nothing is ever earned, everything is taken.
Common sense eludes you??
Lol

You don't know what socialism is. Do you think the average citizen in Denmark earns his or her living?

Try harder.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Like I said earlier, I would certainly be ashamed for my kids to know that I begged for anyone other than myself to pay for their college educations.

Who are you claiming is doing any begging?

 

[bripat9643]

You either want a society where all kids get an opportunity for a basic education or you don't. That's all this amounts to.

College is "basic education" now?

Given the value of an education beyond K - 12 nowadays for economic opportunity in the US today I'd say yes definitely.
I include post HS vocational/trade education in that, btw.

Not everyone can complete college and that is the truth.

Not everyone completes HS either. I guess you're arguing for making all education available only to those who can pay.

No, for those who can't pay, liberals will fund charity schools with their own money.

 

[bripat9643]

What is it like to live in a world where you can prosper without effort? It must be great to live in your world where one can sit on their ass and prosper.

I've never said that. Why are you saying that I did?

Welcome to socialism, take and never earn.

Are you trying to tell me that you think I am a taker?

I'm telling you what socialism is...
Nothing is ever earned, everything is taken.
Common sense eludes you??
Lol

You don't know what socialism is. Do you think the average citizen in Denmark earns his or her living?

Try harder.

If you think Denmark is substantially more socialist than the United States, then you don't know what socialism is.

 

[the_human_being]

Like I said earlier, I would certainly be ashamed for my kids to know that I begged for anyone other than myself to pay for their college educations.

Who are you claiming is doing any begging?

YOU!!!

 

[Pop23]

I suppose I get paid back all the money I PAID to put my kids through college?

My husband and I paid our loans off, we started saving for our children's college before they were even born. I have no desire to pay for some deadbeat's

Every fucking USMB nutbag is an regular American success story. Why the hell are they all so miserable?

I'm not miserable, you left loons are the miserable ones, you've failed at life and now want the government to make up for that. Nobody owes you anything, your life is what you make it. Stop whining and bitching and get on with it.

You are clearly miserable. You are constantly bitching. Every day....you bitch and whine. I mean that. Every fucking day.

Awwww is the little clown upset? Failed in life, reduced to being a wannabe Internet warrior LMAO I'm not miserable, God blessed me...on the other hand you're constantly whining, in fact you whine more than our five year old LOL Now go get a job and pay your fair share ya feckin loser

The only thing that makes loons happy is spending other people's cash.

True story

 

[LoneLaugher]

Why should people be taken from to pay for education??

I hardly know you.......but I'll make an assumption. I think yiu can answer that question if you give it some thought.

 

[bripat9643]

You either want a society where all kids get an opportunity for a basic education or you don't. That's all this amounts to.

College is "basic education" now?

Given the value of an education beyond K - 12 nowadays for economic opportunity in the US today I'd say yes definitely.
I include post HS vocational/trade education in that, btw.

Not everyone can complete college and that is the truth.

That's true. College is not for everyone. But if some kid has the brainpower in the drive should be shut out of college because he can't afford it?

If he has the brain power, then he should have no trouble getting scholarships. My stepson's entire 4 years of college is already paid for with scholarships. It isn't costing me a dime.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Like I said earlier, I would certainly be ashamed for my kids to know that I begged for anyone other than myself to pay for their college educations.

Who are you claiming is doing any begging?

YOU!!!

That is silly. I've never begged for a thing in my life.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

You either want a society where all kids get an opportunity for a basic education or you don't. That's all this amounts to.

College is "basic education" now?

Given the value of an education beyond K - 12 nowadays for economic opportunity in the US today I'd say yes definitely.
I include post HS vocational/trade education in that, btw.

Not everyone can complete college and that is the truth.

That's true. College is not for everyone. But if some kid has the brainpower in the drive should be shut out of college because he can't afford it?

If he has the brain power, then he should have no trouble getting scholarships. My stepson's entire 4 years of college is already paid for with scholarships. It isn't costing me a dime.

Liberal logic: If your stepson's isn't costing you anything you can afford to pay for mine

 

[rightwinger]

That's not the question. Let's take some more of your logic. Since High Schools are essential to young people, what are your thoughts on food? That's pretty essential, too. Should food be free as well? It'll certainly keep you alive longer than a diploma would.

Honestly, I don't think a high school diploma is absolutely necessary for life. There are plenty of people who are able to provide for themselves without one. The other thing to consider with "diplomas for everyone" is the fact that once everyone gets one they become absolutely worthless. At that point, it does no one absolutely no good at all.

That sums you up... You don't know how important an educated workforce is to an economy...

It is shown in your treatment of the President... Obama is an intelligent well educated man that is under no question.
You just continue how ignorant you are...

Once everyone gets a FREE PHD from the government then Obama is no longer that educated. I know that an education is kind of worthless if their isn't an employer who thinks it is worth something. It is people like you who detest the capitalist system, does everything in their power to destroy it, and then benefits from it at that same time. It seems kind of hypocritical if you ask me.

There are thousands of employers looking for workers with not just a college education but a trade
Those who are less skilled or motivated would still be available for low skilled labor

So if you want to go into a trade you are "less skilled" or "less motivated"? So plumbers, HVAC installers, electricians are less skilled or motivated? I think you are wrong.

Reading comprehension is not one of your strong points is it?

 

[Pop23]

Honestly, I don't think a high school diploma is absolutely necessary for life. There are plenty of people who are able to provide for themselves without one.

Yeah, they're called thieves and drug dealers.

You're a joke. You're actually advocating that the country would be better off if we became a less educated people. This kind of nonsense highlights the rotting slime that displaced your brain.

We have the most educated population EVER and yet they can't figure out how to pay their own debts????

Yep, complete waist of money.

Yes indeed, let's provide more education to fools

 

[bripat9643]

If that's what you believe, then why should government pay for anyone to go to college? Isn't it "their problem?"

It is something that benefits society....you might even say it helps the General Welfare

The average person gives a rats ass about society when choosing a carreer. Think about that for a moment. In fact, I can't think of anyone who gets a job in order to benefit society. They do it for themselves and nothing else.

Damn boy...

Are you ever thick
All jobs benefit society in their own way. Having an educated workforce benefits a society more than having an illiterate one wouldn't you agree?

That is why my employer ask me "How do you think this job will benefit society?". We have a need to feed ourselves which drives us to get money. We don't have a need to feed society.

Even the guy sweeping floors is benefitting society in his own way

That's true, and so is the corporate CEO. However, most government employees aren 't.

 

[NYcarbineer]

You either want a society where all kids get an opportunity for a basic education or you don't. That's all this amounts to.

College is "basic education" now?

Given the value of an education beyond K - 12 nowadays for economic opportunity in the US today I'd say yes definitely.
I include post HS vocational/trade education in that, btw.

Not everyone can complete college and that is the truth.

Not everyone completes HS either. I guess you're arguing for making all education available only to those who can pay.

Exactly.

That's what this is really about: blind adherence to failed, wrongheaded rightwing dogma, which maintains that those who cannot afford to go to college shouldn't have the opportunity.

This illustrates the idiocy of both extremes, where Sanders' advocacy of 'college for everyone' is naïve and unfounded, and the right's notion that only those who can afford it should go to college, which is reprehensible and wrong.

Why should people be taken from to pay for education??

So the educated will know the right answer to that question.

 

[the_human_being]

Like I said earlier, I would certainly be ashamed for my kids to know that I begged for anyone other than myself to pay for their college educations.

Who are you claiming is doing any begging?

YOU!!!

That is silly. I've never begged for a thing in my life.

You're doing it right now. You want some other taxpayer to pay for your kid's college. Traditionally, it has always been the responsibility of the man of the house to provide for the needs of himself and his family. You want to transfer your own responsibility to some other citizen.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Please Stop Helping Us: How Liberals Make It Harder for Blacks to Succeed Please Stop Helping Us: How Liberals Make It Harder for Blacks to Succeed: Jason L. Riley: 9781594038419: Amazon.com: Books

 

[Contumacious]

While we are going to give everyone a college degree why not give everyone a PHD? Everyone can be professors. Yes we can! That guy at Cirlcle K who can't count back the right change to you will now be a professor. Isn't America great! Every dumbshit in the world can be a professor. We have already proven any dumbshit can be a professor with Obama so why shouldn't every dumbshit get the same opportunity as the president?

The socialists/fascist/berner axis of evil want

1- to be fed
2- to be insured
3- to have their thirst quenched
4- to invade every country on the face of mother earth
5- to imprison every american, especially Libertarians
6- free college education
7- to be clothed


.

What a ridiculous list.

First, these are GOP dreams:

4- to invade every country on the face of mother earth
5- to imprison every american, especially Libertarians

Second, you think Socialism and Fascism are the same thing? Do you have any idea how that makes you look?

From our standpoint a government supremacist can be a left or rightwinger. One wants to tyrannize us in the name of the state the other in the name of a god.

Fascism is a branch of socialism - fascists typically want to regulate economies while the socialists want to own the means of production outright.




.

 

[rightwinger]

Honestly, I don't think a high school diploma is absolutely necessary for life. There are plenty of people who are able to provide for themselves without one.

Yeah, they're called thieves and drug dealers.

You're a joke. You're actually advocating that the country would be better off if we became a less educated people. This kind of nonsense highlights the rotting slime that displaced your brain.

We have the most educated population EVER and yet they can't figure out how to pay their own debts????

Yep, complete waist of money.

Yes indeed, let's provide more education to fools

Agree...one of the first generations of college graduates whose pay scale does not enable them to pay their college debts

 

[Unkotare]

There are so many scholarships, grants, and loan programs available that few people who are qualified and truly committed cannot attend college because of cost alone.

Most people who drop out of college come to the conclusion - on their own - that it was not the best choice for them.

 

[Papageorgio]

Honestly, I don't think a high school diploma is absolutely necessary for life. There are plenty of people who are able to provide for themselves without one. The other thing to consider with "diplomas for everyone" is the fact that once everyone gets one they become absolutely worthless. At that point, it does no one absolutely no good at all.

That sums you up... You don't know how important an educated workforce is to an economy...

It is shown in your treatment of the President... Obama is an intelligent well educated man that is under no question.
You just continue how ignorant you are...

Once everyone gets a FREE PHD from the government then Obama is no longer that educated. I know that an education is kind of worthless if their isn't an employer who thinks it is worth something. It is people like you who detest the capitalist system, does everything in their power to destroy it, and then benefits from it at that same time. It seems kind of hypocritical if you ask me.

There are thousands of employers looking for workers with not just a college education but a trade
Those who are less skilled or motivated would still be available for low skilled labor

So if you want to go into a trade you are "less skilled" or "less motivated"? So plumbers, HVAC installers, electricians are less skilled or motivated? I think you are wrong.

Reading comprehension is not one of your strong points is it?

And communicating is not your strong point.