Why wont the left stand up for Americans and protect our borders?

[Mac1958]

This is why I said "it really is okay to be honest". There's just something in you fundies that makes it genetically impossible.

You yourself gleefully said "the browns are taking over". I'm just agreeing, but I'M the racist in your warped perception. Coming from a family with so many colors that it puts that "Celebrate Diversity" poster you nail to your wall to "feel" good about yourself to shame.

You folks continue to fascinate. You're just lost, but it sure is interesting to observe.
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You believe there is a plot to brown america over votes, said it yourself. You are now a member of the tin foil hat briigade bud.

Show me where I said "there is a plot".

You can't, of course. This is just what you are.

I'm just very thankful I'm not like you. That White Guilt thing must really burn.
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"it's because they want to hasten the browning of America as quickly as they can."
Your words. If you aren't describing a plot then what are you describing?

A plot means a coordinated effort. I made no such claim.

Is English your first language?

This is the type of distortion in perception that plagues people afflicted with a hardcore partisan ideology.
.

So what did you mean by "it's because they want to hasten the browning of America as quickly as they can." What's that about?

It's a literal comment. The hardcore Left has made no attempt to hide this, so I don't know why you're so pissy.

From people in my own family to their friends and acquaintances to what I read here to what I see and hear and read pretty much everywhere else, this is the goal of the hardcore Left.

Further, there is no interest in actual racial healing. This will be about payback and revenge. I know that first hand, too.

What cracks me up the most is how all the White Guilt-soaked lefties somehow think they'll be immune from what's coming.
.

 

[Coyote]

Found this video and it lays out the details in a manner anyone can understand.

Didn't watch the video, but to answer the question posed by our thread title, it's because they want to hasten the browning of America as quickly as they can.

I'm not even sure they'd deny that at this point. And they're going to get their way. It's already begun.
.

It might be useful to actually look at data and question the OP’s assumption here: that the left does not support border control.

The right continuously frames this in a false dichotomy: if you don’t support Trump’s policies you don’t support border control.

Really now?

If you look at polling border control has a high level of bipartisan support. There are a lot of ways of doing that. High tech surveillance at the border, increase the number of border control agents, increase the number of judges to speed up the process, make use of electronic monitoring devices and increase the number of workers needed to handle caseloads awaiting hearings. All of these either work to prevent illegal entry and speed up the backlog of people awaiting hearings. In addition we can speed up the deportation of those convicted of violent crimes. This costs a lot less than a wall and massive tent cities to hold people indefinitely and have significant downsides to them. And these ideas I mentioned also have widespread support from the left.

Because we oppose militarizing the border and separating families that does not mean we oppose border control yet the right constantly promotes that.

 

[BluesLegend]

I told you the Washington Post published the story. Get off your lazy fat ass and go find it I'm not your secretary. You 'link?' idiots are useless.

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In other words "no proof" just more of your lies. You sound like a broken record.
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When the left chooses to remain ignorant, I'm fine with that.

 

[Mac1958]

Found this video and it lays out the details in a manner anyone can understand.

Didn't watch the video, but to answer the question posed by our thread title, it's because they want to hasten the browning of America as quickly as they can.

I'm not even sure they'd deny that at this point. And they're going to get their way. It's already begun.
.

It might be useful to actually look at data and question the OP’s assumption here: that the left does not support border control.

The right continuously frames this in a false dichotomy: if you don’t support Trump’s policies you don’t support border control.

Really now?

If you look at polling border control has a high level of bipartisan support. There are a lot of ways of doing that. High tech surveillance at the border, increase the number of border control agents, increase the number of judges to speed up the process, make use of electronic monitoring devices and increase the number of workers needed to handle caseloads awaiting hearings. All of these either work to prevent illegal entry and speed up the backlog of people awaiting hearings. In addition we can speed up the deportation of those convicted of violent crimes. This costs a lot less than a wall and massive tent cities to hold people indefinitely and have significant downsides to them. And these also have widespread support from the left.

Because we oppose militarizing the border and separating families that does not mean we oppose border control yet the right constantly promotes that.

The Right is intellectually paralyzed by the madness being spread by talk radio and amplified by Trump. I do believe they're really terrified. They pretty much live on hyperbole right now, so there's just no talking them down.

That doesn't change my point, though.
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[WheelieAddict]

You believe there is a plot to brown america over votes, said it yourself. You are now a member of the tin foil hat briigade bud.

Show me where I said "there is a plot".

You can't, of course. This is just what you are.

I'm just very thankful I'm not like you. That White Guilt thing must really burn.
.

"it's because they want to hasten the browning of America as quickly as they can."
Your words. If you aren't describing a plot then what are you describing?

A plot means a coordinated effort. I made no such claim.

Is English your first language?

This is the type of distortion in perception that plagues people afflicted with a hardcore partisan ideology.
.

So what did you mean by "it's because they want to hasten the browning of America as quickly as they can." What's that about?

It's a literal comment. The hardcore Left has made no attempt to hide this, so I don't know why you're so pissy.

From people in my own family to their friends and acquaintances to what I read here to what I see and hear and read pretty much everywhere else, this is the goal of the hardcore Left.

Further, there is no interest in actual racial healing. This will be about payback and revenge. I know that first hand, too.

What cracks me up the most is how all the White Guilt-soaked lefties somehow think they'll be immune from what's coming.
.

Oh jeez, what is coming? Tell us all about it, sounds important...

 

[Coyote]

Found this video and it lays out the details in a manner anyone can understand.

I don’t fear immigrants......even brown ones

Mollie Tibbetts would advise you to be fearful.

I doubt it. Her family, who surly knows her better than you does not agree. Time to quit using her,

 

[Uncensored2008]

What's the right's proposal?

You can't read?

The president is deploying the Army to stop the invasion.

"Democrats oppose any effort to secure our border."

That's a really broad brush. And it gives an inaccurate impression that all Democrats are opposed to border security. That's not the case.

Democrats in both the House and the Senate have supported measures to reinforce fencing along the southern border with Mexico, bolster border patrol and fund technological surveillance.

Generally, Democrats have opposed the president's proposed border wall. A few Democrats in red states have voiced support. The majority of the party being against the border wall doesn't mean they're against border security altogether.

But many analysts would agree more liberal candidates entering the arena this election year have pulled the party further to the left. That includes on immigration. Take, for instance, calls to abolish ICE earlier this year. But it's still not accurate to say the Democratic Party is wholly against securing the border.

Newsy.com

Newsy is pointing to things said by democrats from the early 2000's. the democratic-socialist party of today seeks open borders.

Simply put, illegals will cast the votes that Americans won't cast.

{
Democrats in 2018 are relying on the national newsmedia, the entertainment world, the anarchistic street thugs, acerbic academicians, and radical feminists to urge an open-borders ploy — DACA.

Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA or Dreamers) is a category of young foreign nationals admitted into the United States without Congressional legislation — by presidential executive order. Most of the Dreamers were subject to little or no background checks unlike the foreign nationals who are admitted legally.

These Dreamers are a foundation for chain migration of “relatives” many of whom are not real relatives. The lack of ability for the Obama Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to verify the bona fides of Dreamers is a fact the Obama administration chose to ignore.

Democrats, the newsmedia, and progressive globalists push the sympathetic nature of Americans to allow Dreamers to be given legal status and even citizenship. These ardent advocates for Dreamers consciously disregard the real costs of legalizing Dreamers and the chain migration they cause.

The number of Dreamers in the United States today is unknown and estimates range from 700,000 to 2 million. There never has been an accurate counting of illegal aliens. However, Border Patrol agents estimate 3 illegal aliens escape apprehension for every 1 caught. Most agents say that the number is more like 5 illegal alien entries for every 1 apprehension. This estimate is true, whether there are 300,000 or 1 million apprehensions a year.}

Democrats Want Open Borders, Not Immigration Reform

 

[Mac1958]

Show me where I said "there is a plot".

You can't, of course. This is just what you are.

I'm just very thankful I'm not like you. That White Guilt thing must really burn.
.

"it's because they want to hasten the browning of America as quickly as they can."
Your words. If you aren't describing a plot then what are you describing?

A plot means a coordinated effort. I made no such claim.

Is English your first language?

This is the type of distortion in perception that plagues people afflicted with a hardcore partisan ideology.
.

So what did you mean by "it's because they want to hasten the browning of America as quickly as they can." What's that about?

It's a literal comment. The hardcore Left has made no attempt to hide this, so I don't know why you're so pissy.

From people in my own family to their friends and acquaintances to what I read here to what I see and hear and read pretty much everywhere else, this is the goal of the hardcore Left.

Further, there is no interest in actual racial healing. This will be about payback and revenge. I know that first hand, too.

What cracks me up the most is how all the White Guilt-soaked lefties somehow think they'll be immune from what's coming.
.

Oh jeez, what is coming? Tell us all about it, sounds important...

Nothing!
.

 

[JoeMoma]

Where did you gather the statistics that say the left doesn't want to protect the borders. I'm left lots of people I know are left how did you come to the supposition that the left doesn't want to protect borders. I think you may have just pulled that info out of your right leaning a**.

Great, show one leading leftist who has proposals to stop the invading army of migrants?

No? Can't find one?

Case closed.

What's the right's proposal?

Where did you gather the statistics that say the left doesn't want to protect the borders. I'm left lots of people I know are left how did you come to the supposition that the left doesn't want to protect borders. I think you may have just pulled that info out of your right leaning a**.

Great, show one leading leftist who has proposals to stop the invading army of migrants?

No? Can't find one?

Case closed.

"Democrats oppose any effort to secure our border."

That's a really broad brush. And it gives an inaccurate impression that all Democrats are opposed to border security. That's not the case.

Democrats in both the House and the Senate have supported measures to reinforce fencing along the southern border with Mexico, bolster border patrol and fund technological surveillance.

Generally, Democrats have opposed the president's proposed border wall. A few Democrats in red states have voiced support. The majority of the party being against the border wall doesn't mean they're against border security altogether.

But many analysts would agree more liberal candidates entering the arena this election year have pulled the party further to the left. That includes on immigration. Take, for instance, calls to abolish ICE earlier this year. But it's still not accurate to say the Democratic Party is wholly against securing the border.

Newsy.com

Yes, it is a broad brush. I suspect many people who tend to vote democrat voted for Trump because of his stance on illegal immigration. In other words, some democrats want the wall.

 

[Coyote]

Found this video and it lays out the details in a manner anyone can understand.

Didn't watch the video, but to answer the question posed by our thread title, it's because they want to hasten the browning of America as quickly as they can.

I'm not even sure they'd deny that at this point. And they're going to get their way. It's already begun.
.

It might be useful to actually look at data and question the OP’s assumption here: that the left does not support border control.

The right continuously frames this in a false dichotomy: if you don’t support Trump’s policies you don’t support border control.

Really now?

If you look at polling border control has a high level of bipartisan support. There are a lot of ways of doing that. High tech surveillance at the border, increase the number of border control agents, increase the number of judges to speed up the process, make use of electronic monitoring devices and increase the number of workers needed to handle caseloads awaiting hearings. All of these either work to prevent illegal entry and speed up the backlog of people awaiting hearings. In addition we can speed up the deportation of those convicted of violent crimes. This costs a lot less than a wall and massive tent cities to hold people indefinitely and have significant downsides to them. And these also have widespread support from the left.

Because we oppose militarizing the border and separating families that does not mean we oppose border control yet the right constantly promotes that.

The Right is intellectually paralyzed by the madness being spread by talk radio and amplified by Trump. I do believe they're really terrified. They pretty much live on hyperbole right now, so there's just no talking them down.

That doesn't change my point, though.
.

But you did not address the points I made. Why do you insist it is about the browning of America when most on the left do support border control, just not the extreme and abusive measures called for by Trump?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Found this video and it lays out the details in a manner anyone can understand.

I don’t fear immigrants......even brown ones

Mollie Tibbetts would advise you to be fearful.

I doubt it. Her family, who surly knows her better than you does not agree. Time to quit using her,

Her nutless fathers motive was exposed...he’s raising anchor babies and remarried to a barely legal. Fuck him!

 

[Coyote]

What's the right's proposal?

You can't read?

The president is deploying the Army to stop the invasion.

"Democrats oppose any effort to secure our border."

That's a really broad brush. And it gives an inaccurate impression that all Democrats are opposed to border security. That's not the case.

Democrats in both the House and the Senate have supported measures to reinforce fencing along the southern border with Mexico, bolster border patrol and fund technological surveillance.

Generally, Democrats have opposed the president's proposed border wall. A few Democrats in red states have voiced support. The majority of the party being against the border wall doesn't mean they're against border security altogether.

But many analysts would agree more liberal candidates entering the arena this election year have pulled the party further to the left. That includes on immigration. Take, for instance, calls to abolish ICE earlier this year. But it's still not accurate to say the Democratic Party is wholly against securing the border.

Newsy.com

Newsy is pointing to things said by democrats from the early 2000's. the democratic-socialist party of today seeks open borders.

Simply put, illegals will cast the votes that Americans won't cast.

{
Democrats in 2018 are relying on the national newsmedia, the entertainment world, the anarchistic street thugs, acerbic academicians, and radical feminists to urge an open-borders ploy — DACA.

Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA or Dreamers) is a category of young foreign nationals admitted into the United States without Congressional legislation — by presidential executive order. Most of the Dreamers were subject to little or no background checks unlike the foreign nationals who are admitted legally.

These Dreamers are a foundation for chain migration of “relatives” many of whom are not real relatives. The lack of ability for the Obama Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to verify the bona fides of Dreamers is a fact the Obama administration chose to ignore.

Democrats, the newsmedia, and progressive globalists push the sympathetic nature of Americans to allow Dreamers to be given legal status and even citizenship. These ardent advocates for Dreamers consciously disregard the real costs of legalizing Dreamers and the chain migration they cause.

The number of Dreamers in the United States today is unknown and estimates range from 700,000 to 2 million. There never has been an accurate counting of illegal aliens. However, Border Patrol agents estimate 3 illegal aliens escape apprehension for every 1 caught. Most agents say that the number is more like 5 illegal alien entries for every 1 apprehension. This estimate is true, whether there are 300,000 or 1 million apprehensions a year.}

Democrats Want Open Borders, Not Immigration Reform

Deploying the military is a political ploy, nothing more. The intent is to distract from the latest spate of extremist violence and rally the base.

 

[sartre play]

There is Not one single Democratic elected official that supports open borders.

 

[SaxxyBlues]

What's the right's proposal?

You can't read?

The president is deploying the Army to stop the invasion.

"Democrats oppose any effort to secure our border."

That's a really broad brush. And it gives an inaccurate impression that all Democrats are opposed to border security. That's not the case.

Democrats in both the House and the Senate have supported measures to reinforce fencing along the southern border with Mexico, bolster border patrol and fund technological surveillance.

Generally, Democrats have opposed the president's proposed border wall. A few Democrats in red states have voiced support. The majority of the party being against the border wall doesn't mean they're against border security altogether.

But many analysts would agree more liberal candidates entering the arena this election year have pulled the party further to the left. That includes on immigration. Take, for instance, calls to abolish ICE earlier this year. But it's still not accurate to say the Democratic Party is wholly against securing the border.

Newsy.com

Newsy is pointing to things said by democrats from the early 2000's. the democratic-socialist party of today seeks open borders.

Simply put, illegals will cast the votes that Americans won't cast.

{
Democrats in 2018 are relying on the national newsmedia, the entertainment world, the anarchistic street thugs, acerbic academicians, and radical feminists to urge an open-borders ploy — DACA.

Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA or Dreamers) is a category of young foreign nationals admitted into the United States without Congressional legislation — by presidential executive order. Most of the Dreamers were subject to little or no background checks unlike the foreign nationals who are admitted legally.

These Dreamers are a foundation for chain migration of “relatives” many of whom are not real relatives. The lack of ability for the Obama Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to verify the bona fides of Dreamers is a fact the Obama administration chose to ignore.

Democrats, the newsmedia, and progressive globalists push the sympathetic nature of Americans to allow Dreamers to be given legal status and even citizenship. These ardent advocates for Dreamers consciously disregard the real costs of legalizing Dreamers and the chain migration they cause.

The number of Dreamers in the United States today is unknown and estimates range from 700,000 to 2 million. There never has been an accurate counting of illegal aliens. However, Border Patrol agents estimate 3 illegal aliens escape apprehension for every 1 caught. Most agents say that the number is more like 5 illegal alien entries for every 1 apprehension. This estimate is true, whether there are 300,000 or 1 million apprehensions a year.}

Democrats Want Open Borders, Not Immigration Reform

Absolutely EVERYTHING Trump says now is total, empty, bullshit.
He's not going to send a massive amount of troops to the border.
He's not going to order people shot at the border.
He's not going to sign an order to end birth citizenship.

Everything he says right now are all simply lies to get his people to vote on Tuesday.
No other purpose whatever.

 

[WheelieAddict]

"it's because they want to hasten the browning of America as quickly as they can."
Your words. If you aren't describing a plot then what are you describing?

A plot means a coordinated effort. I made no such claim.

Is English your first language?

This is the type of distortion in perception that plagues people afflicted with a hardcore partisan ideology.
.

So what did you mean by "it's because they want to hasten the browning of America as quickly as they can." What's that about?

It's a literal comment. The hardcore Left has made no attempt to hide this, so I don't know why you're so pissy.

From people in my own family to their friends and acquaintances to what I read here to what I see and hear and read pretty much everywhere else, this is the goal of the hardcore Left.

Further, there is no interest in actual racial healing. This will be about payback and revenge. I know that first hand, too.

What cracks me up the most is how all the White Guilt-soaked lefties somehow think they'll be immune from what's coming.
.

Oh jeez, what is coming? Tell us all about it, sounds important...

Nothing!
.

lol. You are faker than the Oakland Raiders defense bud. Sad!

 

[August West]

Found this video and it lays out the details in a manner anyone can understand.

Why? I like them more than I like you. Anyone who will walk for 3 months with a child to escape violence and seek a better life can be my neighbor anytime. Jobs are available aren`t they? We took in 125,000 Cubans fleeing communism so I`m sure we can deal with a couple thousand fleeing capitalism.

 

[Mac1958]

Found this video and it lays out the details in a manner anyone can understand.

Didn't watch the video, but to answer the question posed by our thread title, it's because they want to hasten the browning of America as quickly as they can.

I'm not even sure they'd deny that at this point. And they're going to get their way. It's already begun.
.

It might be useful to actually look at data and question the OP’s assumption here: that the left does not support border control.

The right continuously frames this in a false dichotomy: if you don’t support Trump’s policies you don’t support border control.

Really now?

If you look at polling border control has a high level of bipartisan support. There are a lot of ways of doing that. High tech surveillance at the border, increase the number of border control agents, increase the number of judges to speed up the process, make use of electronic monitoring devices and increase the number of workers needed to handle caseloads awaiting hearings. All of these either work to prevent illegal entry and speed up the backlog of people awaiting hearings. In addition we can speed up the deportation of those convicted of violent crimes. This costs a lot less than a wall and massive tent cities to hold people indefinitely and have significant downsides to them. And these also have widespread support from the left.

Because we oppose militarizing the border and separating families that does not mean we oppose border control yet the right constantly promotes that.

The Right is intellectually paralyzed by the madness being spread by talk radio and amplified by Trump. I do believe they're really terrified. They pretty much live on hyperbole right now, so there's just no talking them down.

That doesn't change my point, though.
.

But you did not address the points I made. Why do you insist it is about the browning of America when most on the left do support border control, just not the extreme and abusive measures called for by Trump?

Because it's both. The two are mutually exclusive: The Democrats are not for open borders, and they're celebrating the browning of the country.

Do you really think there would be outrage from the Left if these people were granted asylum? I don't, not for a minute. And the same would be true if it happened another hundred times.

I'm not making a value judgement here, just an observation.
.

 

[Mac1958]

A plot means a coordinated effort. I made no such claim.

Is English your first language?

This is the type of distortion in perception that plagues people afflicted with a hardcore partisan ideology.
.

So what did you mean by "it's because they want to hasten the browning of America as quickly as they can." What's that about?

It's a literal comment. The hardcore Left has made no attempt to hide this, so I don't know why you're so pissy.

From people in my own family to their friends and acquaintances to what I read here to what I see and hear and read pretty much everywhere else, this is the goal of the hardcore Left.

Further, there is no interest in actual racial healing. This will be about payback and revenge. I know that first hand, too.

What cracks me up the most is how all the White Guilt-soaked lefties somehow think they'll be immune from what's coming.
.

Oh jeez, what is coming? Tell us all about it, sounds important...

Nothing!
.

lol. You are faker than the Oakland Raiders defense bud. Sad!

Okay, bud! Sad!
.

 

[BrokeLoser]

There is Not one single Democratic elected official that supports open borders.

You’re making a fool of yourself in public.
“We swear we don’t want ‘open borders’, we just want to dissolve ICE, we want a pathway to citizenship for the 29 million here illegally now, we want the 1.7 million DACA ‘kids’ gifted a form of citizenship and we want future Mexican immigrants to be able to become citizens without all the red tape....but, but, but....we swear, we don’t want open borders.”

 

[sartre play]

No open borders, just some honest (not political) effort to balance self interest with common human decency.