Will Obamas wiretapping of Trumps home bring down the democrat party?

[RASTAMEN]

Simply because you don't like him, isn't a reason, dear. Maybe slow down on the toke.

I think this article from a left publication, is very pertinent to these fisa warrants and this conversation and how the oversight is not there, from 2013-
The Secret FISA Court Must Go

No Trump and his regime must go!!!

Melania is "tokking" right now with Putin.

 

[depotoo]

Honey, it will be investigated, and then you can scream and yell, or say I told ya so. In due time, in due time. And not within a month or two, either.

Anyone suggesting an investigation of voting fraud could be completed in 21/2 weeks, is full of crap.

Here is some more Hogwash from Trump he still provides no Proof of.....Congress needs to Investigate whether Obama Victimized Trump LOL
ZERO EVIDENCE
TRUMP STILL HASN’T OFFERED ANY PROOF OF VOTER FRAUD

So where did the accusation come from Toots ...where is that proof ...LOL it all came out of the Trump Colon

 

[Doc1]

Which defines what 1802 is and both completely demolish your argument that they need a "Warrant" to do the surveillance, if done at all. And yes, the President can order it.

Other than the Rantings of an unhinged and documented chronic liar where is the Proof that Obama committed a crime against Trump?...where is the Beef...No Beef...Oh How Convenient ....

"As an aside, I am not saying that Obama listen to Trump or not, I have no idea. My sole point was that he could and he did NOT need a warrant."
Yawn.

Your sole point is to Defend Trump Full Throat then pull your lil hand back and say "Oh no I am just being objective"...

You apparently lack the ability to comprehend what you read.

 

[depotoo]

Real intelligent comment there.

Simply because you don't like him, isn't a reason, dear. Maybe slow down on the toke.

I think this article from a left publication, is very pertinent to these fisa warrants and this conversation and how the oversight is not there, from 2013-
The Secret FISA Court Must Go

No Trump and his regime must go!!!

Melania is "tokking" right now with Putin.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

What's really bizarre about the Drama Queen's accusation is that it's so easily disproven. He's got to keep attention away from his treasonous friendship with Pooting, so what will his next lie be?

Anybody wanna bet he will resurrect his burfur lies? Yep. And the RWNJ traitors would love it . Maybe he could get the old cracker "sheriff" to join him. Remember, they both said they had proof they would be releasing just any day ...

But then, that's what the Rs said about their replacement for ObamaCare.

Pace yourselves folx - drumpf will be pulling this shit every day for four long long long LONG years.


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[TyroneSlothrop]

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You apparently lack the ability to comprehend what you read.

You lack subtlety in your efforts to defend the lies Trump told

 

[RASTAMEN]

Honey, it will be investigated, and then you can scream and yell, or say I told ya so. In due time, in due time. And not within a month or two, either.

Anyone suggesting an investigation of voting fraud could be completed in 21/2 weeks, is full of crap.

Here is some more Hogwash from Trump he still provides no Proof of.....Congress needs to Investigate whether Obama Victimized Trump LOL
ZERO EVIDENCE
TRUMP STILL HASN’T OFFERED ANY PROOF OF VOTER FRAUD

So where did the accusation come from Toots ...where is that proof ...LOL it all came out of the Trump Colon

Trump must realize that the Russian scandal has just begun. It will consume his Presidency.

 

[Doc1]

Real intelligent comment there.

Simply because you don't like him, isn't a reason, dear. Maybe slow down on the toke.

I think this article from a left publication, is very pertinent to these fisa warrants and this conversation and how the oversight is not there, from 2013-
The Secret FISA Court Must Go

No Trump and his regime must go!!!

Melania is "tokking" right now with Putin.

Well it IS PastaHead.

 

[Doc1]

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You apparently lack the ability to comprehend what you read.

You lack subtlety in your efforts to defend the lies Trump told

Honey project all you like, I'm quite comfortable in your ignorance.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

For someone so Mighty White Alpha like Trump he sure spends a lot of time Tweeting Piteously about being victimized...what a Dork

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

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You apparently lack the ability to comprehend what you read.

You lack subtlety in your efforts to defend the lies Trump told

Honey project all you like, I'm quite comfortable in your ignorance.

Pudding souffle "You aint slicK" you are just another "soft sad Bimbo like" target for Mockery to me ...

 

[JakeStarkey]

Comey got Clinton and now is zoning in on Trump.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Honey, it will be investigated, and then you can scream and yell, or say I told ya so. In due time, in due time. And not within a month or two, either.

Sweet tender thing , your faith is very touching, I think the Congress needs to launch multiple Investigations into what that bad man Obama did to Trump

 

[Yarddog]

No.

So, you approve of Obamas Putin like actions against political rivals.....what else do you approve of Putins?

Obama is not in office, Trump is like Putin, and you cannot put together a consistent post.

Obama used the power of his office, while he was still in office, to investigate the opposing political party as well as setting up traps for his administration. the last minute rule changes Obama made before he left were not by accident but by design. You may be a fine person but The DNC operatives would accept nothing less than Hillary, they are out to roadblock Trump at every turn. Trump was th eonly candidate who could have survived the Democrat media collusion. Any other candidate would have crumbled at the first fake news stories about them and went into appology mode like a normal good republican does. This is why the Democrats are so furious with Trump, he has the audacity to not play their stupid game.

 

[depotoo]

I agree. And can't wait.

Honey, it will be investigated, and then you can scream and yell, or say I told ya so. In due time, in due time. And not within a month or two, either.

Sweet tender thing , your faith is very touching, I think the Congress needs to launch multiple Investigations into what that bad man Obama did to Trump

 

[depotoo]

I agree.
And just as Sessions folded when he recused himself. Pisses me off.

No.

So, you approve of Obamas Putin like actions against political rivals.....what else do you approve of Putins?

Obama is not in office, Trump is like Putin, and you cannot put together a consistent post.

Obama used the power of his office, while he was still in office, to investigate the opposing political party as well as setting up traps for his administration. the last minute rule changes Obama made before he left were not by accident but by design. You may be a fine person but The DNC operatives would accept nothing less than Hillary, they are out to roadblock Trump at every turn. Trump was th eonly candidate who could have survived the Democrat media collusion. Any other candidate would have crumbled at the first fake news stories about them and went into appology mode like a normal good republican does. This is why the Democrats are so furious with Trump, he has the audacity to not play their stupid game.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Donald you go on Tweeter and grab the offensive ....

“The president erupted with anger over the latest slew of news reports connecting Russia with the new administration — specifically the abrupt decision by Attorney General Jeff Sessions to recuse himself from investigations into Russian meddling in the 2016 campaign.”

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Trump Relied on Breitbart News to Claim Obama Tapped His Phones
by
Toluse Olorunnipa
,
Jennifer Jacobs
, and
Margaret Talev
March 4, 2017, 9:15 AM EST March 4, 2017, 1:39 PM EST

• Obama spokesman says Trump wiretap allegation ‘simply false’
• President says Trump Tower phones were tapped during campaign
• Trump Relied on Breitbart News to Claim Obama Tapped His Phones

 

[Art__Allm]

They are fascists, little buddy, not commies.

What is so "fascist" about supporting globalism, LGBT and "open boarders"?



Did any fascists do that?

Go and educate yourself about Communism and Fascism, and then come back.

 

[Care4all]

"50 U.S. Code § 1802 - Electronic surveillance authorization without court order; certification by Attorney General; reports to Congressional committees; transmittal under seal;...of communication common carrier; applications; jurisdiction of court"

"Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—
section 1801(h) of this title; and

if the Attorney General reports such minimization procedures and any changes thereto to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence at least thirty days prior to their effective date, unless the Attorney General determines immediate action is required and notifies the committees immediately of such minimization procedures and the reason for their becoming effective immediately.
section 1808(a) of this title."

50 U.S. Code § 1802 - Electronic surveillance authorization without court order; certification by Attorney General; reports to Congressional committees; transmittal under seal;...of communication common carrier; applications; jurisdiction of court

Of particular NOTE....

"Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—

Here is the section 1801 noted in your first paragragh about the law which gives definitions for this law...

50 U.S. Code § 1801 - Definitions
Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

As used in this subchapter:
(a) “Foreign power” means—
(1)
a foreign government or any component thereof, whether or not recognized by the United States;
(2)
a faction of a foreign nation or nations, not substantially composed of United States persons;
(3)
an entity that is openly acknowledged by a foreign government or governments to be directed and controlled by such foreign government or governments;
(4)
a group engaged in international terrorism or activities in preparation therefor;
(5)
a foreign-based political organization, not substantially composed of United States persons;
(6)
an entity that is directed and controlled by a foreign government or governments; or
(7)
an entity not substantially composed of United States persons that is engaged in the international proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.
(b) “Agent of a foreign power” means—
(1) any person other than a United States person, who—
(A)
acts in the United States as an officer or employee of a foreign power, or as a member of a foreign power as defined in subsection (a)(4), irrespective of whether the person is inside the United States;
(B)
acts for or on behalf of a foreign power which engages in clandestine intelligence activities in the United States contrary to the interests of the United States, when the circumstances indicate that such person may engage in such activities, or when such person knowingly aids or abets any person in the conduct of such activities or knowingly conspires with any person to engage in such activities;
(C)
engages in international terrorism or activities in preparation therefore;
(D)
engages in the international proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, or activities in preparation therefor; or
(E)
engages in the international proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, or activities in preparation therefor, for or on behalf of a foreign power, or knowingly aids or abets any person in the conduct of such proliferation or activities in preparation therefor, or knowingly conspires with any person to engage in such proliferation or activities in preparation therefor; or
(2) any person who—
(A)
knowingly engages in clandestine intelligence gathering activities for or on behalf of a foreign power, which activities involve or may involve a violation of the criminal statutes of the United States;
(B)
pursuant to the direction of an intelligence service or network of a foreign power, knowingly engages in any other clandestine intelligence activities for or on behalf of such foreign power, which activities involve or are about to involve a violation of the criminal statutes of the United States;
(C)
knowingly engages in sabotage or international terrorism, or activities that are in preparation therefor, for or on behalf of a foreign power;
(D)
knowingly enters the United States under a false or fraudulent identity for or on behalf of a foreign power or, while in the United States, knowingly assumes a false or fraudulent identity for or on behalf of a foreign power; or
(E)
knowingly aids or abets any person in the conduct of activities described in subparagraph (A), (B), or (C) or knowingly conspires with any person to engage in activities described in subparagraph (A), (B), or (C).
(c) “International terrorism” means activities that—
(1)
involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State, or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or any State;
(2) appear to be intended—
(A)
to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(B)
to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(C)
to affect the conduct of a government by assassination or kidnapping; and
(3)
occur totally outside the United States, or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to coerce or intimidate, or the locale in which their perpetrators operate or seek asylum.
(d)
“Sabotage” means activities that involve a violation of chapter 105 of title 18, or that would involve such a violation if committed against the United States.
(e) “Foreign intelligence information” means—
(1) information that relates to, and if concerning a United States person is necessary to, the ability of the United States to protect against—
(A)
actual or potential attack or other grave hostile acts of a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power;
(B)
sabotage, international terrorism, or the international proliferation of weapons of mass destruction by a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power; or
(C)
clandestine intelligence activities by an intelligence service or network of a foreign power or by an agent of a foreign power; or
(2) information with respect to a foreign power or foreign territory that relates to, and if concerning a United States person is necessary to—
(A)
the national defense or the security of the United States; or
(B)
the conduct of the foreign affairs of the United States.
(f) “Electronic surveillance” means—
(1)
the acquisition by an electronic, mechanical, or other surveillance device of the contents of any wire or radio communication sent by or intended to be received by a particular, known United States person who is in the United States, if the contents are acquired by intentionally targeting that United States person, under circumstances in which a person has a reasonable expectation of privacy and a warrant would be required for law enforcement purposes;
(2)
the acquisition by an electronic, mechanical, or other surveillance device of the contents of any wire communication to or from a person in the United States, without the consent of any party thereto, if such acquisition occurs in the United States, but does not include the acquisition of those communications of computer trespassers that would be permissible under section 2511(2)(i) of title 18;
(3)
the intentional acquisition by an electronic, mechanical, or other surveillance device of the contents of any radio communication, under circumstances in which a person has a reasonable expectation of privacy and a warrant would be required for law enforcement purposes, and if both the sender and all intended recipients are located within the United States; or
(4)
the installation or use of an electronic, mechanical, or other surveillance device in the United States for monitoring to acquire information, other than from a wire or radio communication, under circumstances in which a person has a reasonable expectation of privacy and a warrant would be required for law enforcement purposes.
(g)
“Attorney General” means the Attorney General of the United States (or Acting Attorney General), the Deputy Attorney General, or, upon the designation of the Attorney General, the Assistant Attorney General designated as the Assistant Attorney General for National Security under section 507A of title 28.
(h) “Minimization procedures”, with respect to electronic surveillance, means—
(1)
specific procedures, which shall be adopted by the Attorney General, that are reasonably designed in light of the purpose and technique of the particular surveillance, to minimize the acquisition and retention, and prohibit the dissemination, of nonpublicly available information concerning unconsenting United States persons consistent with the need of the United States to obtain, produce, and disseminate foreign intelligence information;
(2)
procedures that require that nonpublicly available information, which is not foreign intelligence information, as defined in subsection (e)(1), shall not be disseminated in a manner that identifies any United States person, without such person’s consent, unless such person’s identity is necessary to understand foreign intelligence information or assess its importance;
(3)
notwithstanding paragraphs (1) and (2), procedures that allow for the retention and dissemination of information that is evidence of a crime which has been, is being, or is about to be committed and that is to be retained or disseminated for law enforcement purposes; and
(4)
notwithstanding paragraphs (1), (2), and (3), with respect to any electronic surveillance approved pursuant to section 1802(a) of this title, procedures that require that no contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party shall be disclosed, disseminated, or used for any purpose or retained for longer than 72 hours unless a court order under section 1805 of this title is obtained or unless the Attorney General determines that the information indicates a threat of death or serious bodily harm to any person.
(i)
“United States person” means a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence (as defined in section 1101(a)(20) of title 8), an unincorporated association a substantial number of members of which are citizens of the United States or aliens lawfully admitted for permanent residence, or a corporation which is incorporated in the United States, but does not include a corporation or an association which is a foreign power, as defined in subsection (a)(1), (2), or (3).
(j)
“United States”, when used in a geographic sense, means all areas under the territorial sovereignty of the United States and the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands.
(k)
“Aggrieved person” means a person who is the target of an electronic surveillance or any other person whose communications or activities were subject to electronic surveillance.
(l)
“Wire communication” means any communication while it is being carried by a wire, cable, or other like connection furnished or operated by any person engaged as a common carrier in providing or operating such facilities for the transmission of interstate or foreign communications.
(m)
“Person” means any individual, including any officer or employee of the Federal Government, or any group, entity, association, corporation, or foreign power.
(n)
“Contents”, when used with respect to a communication, includes any information concerning the identity of the parties to such communication or the existence, substance, purport, or meaning of that communication.
(o)
“State” means any State of the United States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands, and any territory or possession of the United States.
(p) “Weapon of mass destruction” means—
(1)
any explosive, incendiary, or poison gas device that is designed, intended, or has the capability to cause a mass casualty incident;
(2)
any weapon that is designed, intended, or has the capability to cause death or serious bodily injury to a significant number of persons through the release, dissemination, or impact of toxic or poisonous chemicals or their precursors;
(3)
any weapon involving a biological agent, toxin, or vector (as such terms are defined in section 178 of title 18) that is designed, intended, or has the capability to cause death, illness, or serious bodily injury to a significant number of persons; or
(4)
any weapon that is designed, intended, or has the capability to release radiation or radioactivity causing death, illness, or serious bodily injury to a significant number of persons.

As an aside, I am not saying that Obama listen to Trump or not, I have no idea. My sole point was that he could and he did NOT need a warrant.

ty for saying that Doc1

but part of the actual law is missing from your paste, and it states something like... little likelihood of a US person getting caught up in the tap, as one of the perquisites of doing this kind of electronic surveillance...ALSO Congress select intel committees have to be notified....

(a)
(1) Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—
(A) the electronic surveillance is solely directed at—
(i)
the acquisition of the contents of communications transmitted by means of communications used exclusively between or among foreign powers, as defined in section 1801(a)(1), (2), or (3) of this title; or
(ii)
the acquisition of technical intelligence, other than the spoken communications of individuals, from property or premises under the open and exclusive control of a foreign power, as defined in section 1801(a)(1), (2), or (3) of this title;
(B)
there is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party; and
(C)
the proposed minimization procedures with respect to such surveillance meet the definition of minimization procedures under section 1801(h) of this title; and
if the Attorney General reports such minimization procedures and any changes thereto to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence at least thirty days prior to their effective date, unless the Attorney General determines immediate action is required and notifies the committees immediately of such minimization procedures and the reason for their becoming effective immediately.