Will Obamas wiretapping of Trumps home bring down the democrat party?

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Where's the proof? Give us some proof.

you need to listen to the POTUS.....this news is a bombshell....

Congressman Tells Trump He’s In ‘Deep S**t’ If Wiretapping Conspiracy Is True — And He’s Right (DETAILS) | Addicting Info | The Knowledge You Crave

Donald Trump may have just inadvertently admitted guilt during his bizarre and conspiracy riddled claim that President Obama ordered the Trump Tower to be wiretapped.

Once again, President Trump has shown a complete lack of understanding about the separation of powers enshrined in the United States Constitution. Contrary to popular (right-wing) belief, the President of the United States does not have the authority to order a wiretapping of an individual’s house, phone, or place or business.

But don’t take our word for it. Let Democratic Congressman Ted Lieu of California explain it:

Ted Lieu

Mr. President: If there was a wiretap at Trump Tower, that means a fed judge found probable cause of crime which means you are in deep shit. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/837996746236182529 …

10:14 AM - 4 Mar 2017

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Well Hussein the mafia leader sic'd the IRS on their opponents, why shouldn't this criminal behavior continue towards Trump?

There there Papa Trump will protect you from "snowflakes"

 

[JakeStarkey]

Deflections don't work orange trumpensteens.

Comey! Good work!! You destroyed Clinton for the good politically and now you are talking Trump down!!!

Huzzah Huzzah Huzzah

 

[Art__Allm]

There are plenty of threads here on that.....this thread is about Obama wiretapping Trumos home...

You played the "fascist card", not me.
You have to explain why Obama is not a Neo-Commie, but a "fascist".

 

[Steelfoot]

Over and over and over again, the gaddy-eyed, screeching little Barry Hussein Soetoro Mohammad Obuhbo Junior had proven that he is a pathetic little submaggot, unfit to suck the scum off our septic tank.

His Excellency President Trump must order our valiant military to capture the dirty little half-breed latrine lizard and transport him immediately to Gitmo, with his own kind.

Making America Great Again.

America for REAL Americans!

All others GET OUT!

Know what we mean?

 

[Doc1]

"No President can order a wiretap. Those restrictions were put in place to protect citizens from people like you." - Obama advisor Ben Rhodes, in response to Trump

Wanna bet?

 

[Art__Allm]

And from the NY Times

During the 2016 campaign, Donald J. Trump’s second campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, had regular communications with his longtime associate — a former Russian military translator in Kiev who has been investigated in Ukraine on suspicion of being a Russian intelligence agent.

At the Republican National Convention in July, J. D. Gordon, a former Pentagon official on Mr. Trump’s national security team, met with the Russian ambassador, Sergey Kislyak, at a time when Mr. Gordon was helping keep hawkish language on Russia’s conflict with Ukraine out of the party’s platform.

And Jason Greenblatt, a former Trump Organization lawyer and now a special representative for international negotiations at the White House, met last summer with Rabbi Berel Lazar, the chief rabbi of Russia and an ally of Russia’s president, Vladimir V. Putin.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/03/us/politics/trump-russia-links-washington.html

You really need to stop the Russian bullshit. The cat's out of the bag that Obama and his cronies have set this all up.

Oh and Hillary was involved as well. Politico did an investigative piece that the Ukraine sabotaged Manafort by lying about a non existent investigation.

Jake. If you can accept what Obama and his people have done to honorable men never ever lecture anyone on morals again.

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

from your article Tiny,


Russia’s effort was personally directed by Russian President Vladimir Putin, involved the country’s military and foreign intelligence services, according to U.S. intelligence officials. They reportedly briefed Trump last week on the possibility that Russian operatives might have compromising information on the president-elect. And at a Senate hearing last week on the hacking, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said “I don't think we've ever encountered a more aggressive or direct campaign to interfere in our election process than we've seen in this case.”

There’s little evidence of such a top-down effort by Ukraine. Longtime observers suggest that the rampant corruption, factionalism and economic struggles plaguing the country — not to mention its ongoing strife with Russia — would render it unable to pull off an ambitious covert interference campaign in another country’s election. And President Petro Poroshenko’s administration, along with the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington, insists that Ukraine stayed neutral in the race.

Still the old BS about Russia controlling the American government.
What about the Israel Lobby?
Any American politician has to kiss the ass of Zionists, if he wants to be elected, but this seems to be OK.

 

[Doc1]

"50 U.S. Code § 1802 - Electronic surveillance authorization without court order; certification by Attorney General; reports to Congressional committees; transmittal under seal;...of communication common carrier; applications; jurisdiction of court"

"Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—
section 1801(h) of this title; and

if the Attorney General reports such minimization procedures and any changes thereto to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence at least thirty days prior to their effective date, unless the Attorney General determines immediate action is required and notifies the committees immediately of such minimization procedures and the reason for their becoming effective immediately.
section 1808(a) of this title."

50 U.S. Code § 1802 - Electronic surveillance authorization without court order; certification by Attorney General; reports to Congressional committees; transmittal under seal;...of communication common carrier; applications; jurisdiction of court

Of particular NOTE....

"Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—

 

[JakeStarkey]

Art, Russia is not controlling the government, and Trump's removal will guarantee that.

Israel does not control the government.

From my voice to your hearing: You neo-fascists will never control the government.

 

[Lakhota]

Where's the proof? Give us some proof.

you need to listen to the POTUS.....this news is a bombshell....

Congressman Tells Trump He’s In ‘Deep S**t’ If Wiretapping Conspiracy Is True — And He’s Right (DETAILS) | Addicting Info | The Knowledge You Crave

Donald Trump may have just inadvertently admitted guilt during his bizarre and conspiracy riddled claim that President Obama ordered the Trump Tower to be wiretapped.

Once again, President Trump has shown a complete lack of understanding about the separation of powers enshrined in the United States Constitution. Contrary to popular (right-wing) belief, the President of the United States does not have the authority to order a wiretapping of an individual’s house, phone, or place or business.

But don’t take our word for it. Let Democratic Congressman Ted Lieu of California explain it:

Ted Lieu

Mr. President: If there was a wiretap at Trump Tower, that means a fed judge found probable cause of crime which means you are in deep shit. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/837996746236182529 …

10:14 AM - 4 Mar 2017

Thank you! This is very informative!

 

[RASTAMEN]

There was no reasonable suspicion, moron. Obama had to submit his request three times, and they had to pull some especially suspicions shenanigans to get it approved . FISA warrants are supposed to be given to investigate foreign espionage. The warrant the Obama admin used was justified on the basis of possible banking crimes. That's what normal civilian warrants are used for, investigating crimes. So the warrant violated the rules for issuing FISA warrants.

The whole thing is sleazy beyond belief.

Do tell? Where do you get all this salacious information? Care to share? Either someone produces the warrant, no need for secrecy at this point, or we lock this very sick delusional paranoid NPD pretend president up before someone gets hurt.

FISA and the Trump Team

The FISA warrant for that particular computer was warranted... and it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the LIE Donald Trump tweeted about wire tapping his home or phone lines in his home.

A Group of Computer Scientists Believes a Trump Server Was Communicating With a Russian Bank

This one isn't going away. He wouldn't tweet something like that without having real knowledge.

Trump said he would release his taxes.

Perhaps Putin will release Trumps taxes.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

"50 U.S. Code § 1802 - Electronic surveillance authorization without court order; certification by Attorney General; reports to Congressional committees; transmittal under seal;...of communication common carrier; applications; jurisdiction of court"

"Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—
section 1801(h) of this title; and

if the Attorney General reports such minimization procedures and any changes thereto to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence at least thirty days prior to their effective date, unless the Attorney General determines immediate action is required and notifies the committees immediately of such minimization procedures and the reason for their becoming effective immediately.
section 1808(a) of this title."

50 U.S. Code § 1802 - Electronic surveillance authorization without court order; certification by Attorney General; reports to Congressional committees; transmittal under seal;...of communication common carrier; applications; jurisdiction of court

Of particular NOTE....

"Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—

Thank you for proving what has already been stated. If he was wire taped the would have to have been probable case to suspect that he was colluding with a foreign government as certified by the AG

 

[JakeStarkey]

There are plenty of threads here on that.....this thread is about Obama wiretapping Trumos home...

You played the "fascist card", not me.
You have to explain why Obama is not a Neo-Commie, but a "fascist".

There are plenty of threads here on that.....this thread is about Obama wiretapping Trumos home...

You played the "fascist card", not me.
You have to explain why Obama is not a Neo-Commie, but a "fascist".

There are plenty of threads here on that.....this thread is about Obama wiretapping Trumos home...

You played the "fascist card", not me.
You have to explain why Obama is not a Neo-Commie, but a "fascist".

There are plenty of threads here on that.....this thread is about Obama wiretapping Trumos home...

You played the "fascist card", not me.
You have to explain why Obama is not a Neo-Commie, but a "fascist".

There are plenty of threads here on that.....this thread is about Obama wiretapping Trumos home...

You played the "fascist card", not me.
You have to explain why Obama is not a Neo-Commie, but a "fascist".

They are fascists, little buddy, not commies.

 

[Doc1]

"50 U.S. Code § 1802 - Electronic surveillance authorization without court order; certification by Attorney General; reports to Congressional committees; transmittal under seal;...of communication common carrier; applications; jurisdiction of court"

"Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—
section 1801(h) of this title; and

if the Attorney General reports such minimization procedures and any changes thereto to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence at least thirty days prior to their effective date, unless the Attorney General determines immediate action is required and notifies the committees immediately of such minimization procedures and the reason for their becoming effective immediately.
section 1808(a) of this title."

50 U.S. Code § 1802 - Electronic surveillance authorization without court order; certification by Attorney General; reports to Congressional committees; transmittal under seal;...of communication common carrier; applications; jurisdiction of court

Of particular NOTE....

"Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—

Thank you for proving what has already been stated. If he was wire taped the would have to have been probable case to suspect that he was colluding with a foreign government as certified by the AG

No it doesn't, what that section says is that the AG can simply "certify" that they need to do it and the permission,not the warrant will be granted. They can then surveil for up to one year without going through the procedure of actually getting a warrant. That means they can just go fishing.

 

[depotoo]

And you fell for that ole fake news thing, hook, line and sinker, didn't ya, never seeing what it was trying to cover up, when this type of news came out. I guess you also think it was fake news when Bill met Lynch on the tarmac, the same month the fisa warrant was first denied, too, huh?

Yeah, he'll get right on that after the Dems provide the evidence that Russian's hacked the election.

Hundreds of instances of russian and eastern bloc , posting fake news on internet forums like this one. Perhaps you're one of them.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

the President cannot order wiretappings or approve warrants. LE agencies and intel agencies so empowered request surveillance warrants that must be approved by a neutral and detached judge holding jurisdiction.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

"50 U.S. Code § 1802 - Electronic surveillance authorization without court order; certification by Attorney General; reports to Congressional committees; transmittal under seal;...of communication common carrier; applications; jurisdiction of court"

"Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—
section 1801(h) of this title; and

if the Attorney General reports such minimization procedures and any changes thereto to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence at least thirty days prior to their effective date, unless the Attorney General determines immediate action is required and notifies the committees immediately of such minimization procedures and the reason for their becoming effective immediately.
section 1808(a) of this title."

50 U.S. Code § 1802 - Electronic surveillance authorization without court order; certification by Attorney General; reports to Congressional committees; transmittal under seal;...of communication common carrier; applications; jurisdiction of court

Of particular NOTE....

"Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—

Thank you for proving what has already been stated. If he was wire taped the would have to have been probable case to suspect that he was colluding with a foreign government as certified by the AG

No it doesn't, what that section says is that the AG can simply "certify" that they need to do it and the permission,not the warrant will be granted. They can then surveil for up to one year without going through the procedure of actually getting a warrant. That means they can just go fishing.

I guess a sworn statement under oath must exist then ...LOL let Trump produce the prooof

 

[Doc1]

the President cannot order wiretappings or approve warrants. LE agencies and intel agencies so empowered request surveillance warrants that must be approved by a neutral and detached judge holding jurisdiction.

Well sure, except that that isn't true

"Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—
section 1801(h) of this title; and
50 U.S. Code § 1802 - Electronic surveillance authorization without court order; certification by Attorney General; reports to Congressional committees; transmittal under seal;...of communication common carrier; applications; jurisdiction of court

 

[Doc1]

the President cannot order wiretappings or approve warrants. LE agencies and intel agencies so empowered request surveillance warrants that must be approved by a neutral and detached judge holding jurisdiction.

The bigger issue is that they CAN and DO that very thing and we allow it. FISA and the Patriot Act gutted the 4th amendment.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]