Wisconsin Recount Thread

[jon_berzerk]

So Trump was wrong when he said the election was rigged?

no certainly not

take Michigan for example

where a sealed box claimed 306 votes

but when opened only contained fifty


MUST READ! Penny Crider and I just got back from helping watch the recount at Cobo Hall in Detroit. On Nov. 8th (election day) the election officials at 8:00 pm shut down the polls. They then reconciled the differences from the machine count and the voter count on the computer. At this point a Metal tag/seal with a serial number is put on the box and the box was taken away.
Penny’s precinct, Detroit Precinct #152 had an unbroken seal and everything looked proper. The tag on the box said 306 and the book said 306 and the ticket said 306, so there should be 306 paper ballots on the box, right. Well when they pulled out the ballots the stack seemed short and when they finished separating the two page ballot to count the Presidential page only guess how many ballots were in the box? 304 no, 299 nope, 200 nada, how about 100 wrong again. There were only exactly 50 paper ballots in a locked sealed box that again was supposed to have 306. HMMMM.
Oh I forgot to add, since there was a discrepancy in the two numbers the original count stands
One more thing my precinct (sorry I forgot the number), had 525 votes on the book, tag and ticket and we counted 525 ballots the election official was praising the Lord “Hallelujah we have a countable precinct” Jill Stein had three (3) votes.

Ken Crider - MUST READ! Penny Crider and I just got back... | Facebook

 

[ChrisL]

Geez. That must be why I voted for Trump because I'm a dumb, ugly and disgusting woman. Lol.

You could have just stopped at dumb.

Do you have an answer to the question yet? What rights exactly? Hmm?

You realize we both answered you, right? You can deny that the first amendment exists, but that doesn't make you correct.

Nope. You haven't. Trump has not banned any religions and he has no power to do so anyways, libturd.

So the only thing stopping his denial of fundamental American rights is his incompetence? Superb candidate you fielded.

What rights are those? List them. I do know that the democrats want to take away our 1st and 2nd amendment rights. That is why I voted for Donald Trump. Anyone who is okay with the government taking away even ONE of their rights (as citizens of the US that is) is a complete traitor to the American people.

 

[BluesLegend]

So Trump was wrong when he said the election was rigged?

Dem's and the media tried their best to rig the election, Trump kicked their ass anyway. Trump bitch slapped Hillary and her pals in the MSM. He picked her up off the ground, slapped her around, and tossed her to the side like a worn out has been. Trump beat the hell out of the MSM while he was at it and took a giant shit on the GOP establishment buttheads. Do not get in Trump's way or you will be obliterated.

 

[RDD_1210]

I can't help but call you libtards. That is what you ARE.

Jesus, you're really really dumb. And ugly. No wonder you're voting against women's rights, you're barely a woman yourself.

You are the second poster in this thread to attack her personally and based on her gender. Kinda reminds me of the war on women except both of you are liberals so what now?

You know when you've gone personal you've lost the debate.

Did that apply when she called us libtards with her first post, and the subsequent 15?

She asked a simple question repeatedly and you two can't answer it. I don't give two shits about the Muslims in the middle east any more than I do the Mexicans that illegally invade our nation.

The question is simple. What rights will Americans lose thanks to the election of Trump.

Ahh I see the problem now.

You guys don't consider gay people or women to be real Americans.

Ok, yeah now I see where the disconnect is happening.

 

[ChrisL]

You are the second poster in this thread to attack her personally and based on her gender. Kinda reminds me of the war on women except both of you are liberals so what now?

You know when you've gone personal you've lost the debate.

Did that apply when she called us libtards with her first post, and the subsequent 15?

But I am NOT dumb or ugly, and you ARE a libtard suffering from a severe case of libtarditis.

Add to dumb and ugly: devoid of a sense of humor.

I don't really care what you think of me. It is totally irrelevant to my life. Now, address the point and stay on point. Thanks.

I already addressed the point. Several times. You ignored all substance and resorted to your usual personal attacks, while bitching about us answering in kind.

I'm going to ask you one more time, and if you don't answer then you obviously have nothing more to add to this thread. WHAT RIGHTS?

 

[GaryDog]

You could have just stopped at dumb.

Do you have an answer to the question yet? What rights exactly? Hmm?

You realize we both answered you, right? You can deny that the first amendment exists, but that doesn't make you correct.

Nope. You haven't. Trump has not banned any religions and he has no power to do so anyways, libturd.

So the only thing stopping his denial of fundamental American rights is his incompetence? Superb candidate you fielded.

What rights are those? List them. I do know that the democrats want to take away our 1st and 2nd amendment rights. That is why I voted for Donald Trump. Anyone who is okay with the government taking away even ONE of their rights (as citizens of the US that is) is a complete traitor to the American people.

I genuinely think you're retarded. I've answered your question. Several times. First and fourteenth amendments. He also wants to attack freedom of the press by "looking at our libel laws" whatever that means. The classic fascist move of silencing the media for covering you accurately.

 

[ChrisL]

I can't help but call you libtards. That is what you ARE.

Jesus, you're really really dumb. And ugly. No wonder you're voting against women's rights, you're barely a woman yourself.

You are the second poster in this thread to attack her personally and based on her gender. Kinda reminds me of the war on women except both of you are liberals so what now?

You know when you've gone personal you've lost the debate.

Did that apply when she called us libtards with her first post, and the subsequent 15?

She asked a simple question repeatedly and you two can't answer it. I don't give two shits about the Muslims in the middle east any more than I do the Mexicans that illegally invade our nation.

The question is simple. What rights will Americans lose thanks to the election of Trump.

Nobody does. I don't know where these idiots get off thinking that we are crying about Joe Blow from Syria. Not our problem.

 

[GaryDog]

I can't help but call you libtards. That is what you ARE.

Jesus, you're really really dumb. And ugly. No wonder you're voting against women's rights, you're barely a woman yourself.

You are the second poster in this thread to attack her personally and based on her gender. Kinda reminds me of the war on women except both of you are liberals so what now?

You know when you've gone personal you've lost the debate.

Did that apply when she called us libtards with her first post, and the subsequent 15?

She asked a simple question repeatedly and you two can't answer it. I don't give two shits about the Muslims in the middle east any more than I do the Mexicans that illegally invade our nation.

The question is simple. What rights will Americans lose thanks to the election of Trump.

Nobody does. I don't know where these idiots get off thinking that we are crying about Joe Blow from Syria. Not our problem.

More white nationalist dog whistles from the sexually frustrated old matron.

 

[ChrisL]

Do you have an answer to the question yet? What rights exactly? Hmm?

You realize we both answered you, right? You can deny that the first amendment exists, but that doesn't make you correct.

Nope. You haven't. Trump has not banned any religions and he has no power to do so anyways, libturd.

So the only thing stopping his denial of fundamental American rights is his incompetence? Superb candidate you fielded.

What rights are those? List them. I do know that the democrats want to take away our 1st and 2nd amendment rights. That is why I voted for Donald Trump. Anyone who is okay with the government taking away even ONE of their rights (as citizens of the US that is) is a complete traitor to the American people.

I genuinely think you're retarded. I've answered your question. Several times. First and fourteenth amendments. He also wants to attack freedom of the press by "looking at our libel laws" whatever that means. The classic fascist move of silencing the media for covering you accurately.

You have not answered. You make some silly reference to immigrants is all. Where did he say he would take away our right to free press? I want the exact quote. Thanks.

 

[ChrisL]

Jesus, you're really really dumb. And ugly. No wonder you're voting against women's rights, you're barely a woman yourself.

You are the second poster in this thread to attack her personally and based on her gender. Kinda reminds me of the war on women except both of you are liberals so what now?

You know when you've gone personal you've lost the debate.

Did that apply when she called us libtards with her first post, and the subsequent 15?

She asked a simple question repeatedly and you two can't answer it. I don't give two shits about the Muslims in the middle east any more than I do the Mexicans that illegally invade our nation.

The question is simple. What rights will Americans lose thanks to the election of Trump.

Nobody does. I don't know where these idiots get off thinking that we are crying about Joe Blow from Syria. Not our problem.

More white nationalist dog whistles from the sexually frustrated old matron.

Oh, so you are caring about Muslim immigrants? ROFL. Fuck you, liar.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I can't help but call you libtards. That is what you ARE.

Jesus, you're really really dumb. And ugly. No wonder you're voting against women's rights, you're barely a woman yourself.

You are the second poster in this thread to attack her personally and based on her gender. Kinda reminds me of the war on women except both of you are liberals so what now?

You know when you've gone personal you've lost the debate.

Did that apply when she called us libtards with her first post, and the subsequent 15?

She asked a simple question repeatedly and you two can't answer it. I don't give two shits about the Muslims in the middle east any more than I do the Mexicans that illegally invade our nation.

The question is simple. What rights will Americans lose thanks to the election of Trump.

Ahh I see the problem now.

You guys don't consider gay people or women to be real Americans.

Ok, yeah now I see where the disconnect is happening.

Cite the laws or regulations that Trump has proposed that will strip women or gays of their rights.

Thanks

 

[RDD_1210]

Jesus, you're really really dumb. And ugly. No wonder you're voting against women's rights, you're barely a woman yourself.

You are the second poster in this thread to attack her personally and based on her gender. Kinda reminds me of the war on women except both of you are liberals so what now?

You know when you've gone personal you've lost the debate.

Did that apply when she called us libtards with her first post, and the subsequent 15?

She asked a simple question repeatedly and you two can't answer it. I don't give two shits about the Muslims in the middle east any more than I do the Mexicans that illegally invade our nation.

The question is simple. What rights will Americans lose thanks to the election of Trump.

Ahh I see the problem now.

You guys don't consider gay people or women to be real Americans.

Ok, yeah now I see where the disconnect is happening.

Cite the laws or regulations that Trump has proposed that will strip women or gays of their rights.

Thanks

Trump isn't president yet. I'm just going what he's proposed in his campaigning and by his cabinet picks. But that's what you meant, right?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

You are the second poster in this thread to attack her personally and based on her gender. Kinda reminds me of the war on women except both of you are liberals so what now?

You know when you've gone personal you've lost the debate.

Did that apply when she called us libtards with her first post, and the subsequent 15?

She asked a simple question repeatedly and you two can't answer it. I don't give two shits about the Muslims in the middle east any more than I do the Mexicans that illegally invade our nation.

The question is simple. What rights will Americans lose thanks to the election of Trump.

Ahh I see the problem now.

You guys don't consider gay people or women to be real Americans.

Ok, yeah now I see where the disconnect is happening.

Cite the laws or regulations that Trump has proposed that will strip women or gays of their rights.

Thanks

Trump isn't president yet. I'm just going what he's proposed in his campaigning and by his cabinet picks. But that's what you meant, right?

What I ment was clear. What's also clear is that you have no substantive response.

 

[RDD_1210]

Did that apply when she called us libtards with her first post, and the subsequent 15?

She asked a simple question repeatedly and you two can't answer it. I don't give two shits about the Muslims in the middle east any more than I do the Mexicans that illegally invade our nation.

The question is simple. What rights will Americans lose thanks to the election of Trump.

Ahh I see the problem now.

You guys don't consider gay people or women to be real Americans.

Ok, yeah now I see where the disconnect is happening.

Cite the laws or regulations that Trump has proposed that will strip women or gays of their rights.

Thanks

Trump isn't president yet. I'm just going what he's proposed in his campaigning and by his cabinet picks. But that's what you meant, right?

What I ment was clear. What's also clear is that you have no substantive response.

So Trump never said anything about overturning Roe v. Wade?

 

[NLT]

So Trump was wrong when he said the election was rigged?

It was in California and NY...you libtards just didn't rig it enough to stop Trump

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

She asked a simple question repeatedly and you two can't answer it. I don't give two shits about the Muslims in the middle east any more than I do the Mexicans that illegally invade our nation.

The question is simple. What rights will Americans lose thanks to the election of Trump.

Ahh I see the problem now.

You guys don't consider gay people or women to be real Americans.

Ok, yeah now I see where the disconnect is happening.

Cite the laws or regulations that Trump has proposed that will strip women or gays of their rights.

Thanks

Trump isn't president yet. I'm just going what he's proposed in his campaigning and by his cabinet picks. But that's what you meant, right?

What I ment was clear. What's also clear is that you have no substantive response.

So Trump never said anything about overturning Roe v. Wade?

Every Republican wants it overturned. But I'm glad you found at least one item of substance to throw into the discussion.
What else do you have? Anything or is that it?

 

[shockedcanadian]

Socialism and it's communist cousin (which socialism inherently "evolves" into over time) are the bane of humankinds existence.

If anyone want to hear facts and reality just let me know and I can explain. Or better yet, go and move to Canada, I dare ya!

No need to go to Canada.

I've lived in Buffalo NY.

That's close enough.

Lets hear the facts and reality.

Hah, I wouldn't know where to start or end. I could literally continue to type for days. Here is a little bit:

We just gained 10,000 part time jobs and LOST 8600 FULL-TIME jobs the last month. And the state run CBC cheered our job growth, the rate was literally lowered by our metrics due to this "success".

The Toronto Police have more officers making $100,000+ than any government institution in Ontario save for OPG. Some are making $150,000 a year to work primarily at sporting events and construction sites.

Per the above, Toronto has the highest child poverty rate in Canada. Agencies supporting initiative to feed underprivileged children needed to cut their budgets deeply, while the Toronto Police increased their budgets to record numbers. We have City Council making more than $300,000 a year.

Our bank rate for borrowing is half of 1% and hasn't been more than 1% since 2008 due to anemic growth and labour numbers. They just held this rate yet again because they don't see any growth in our economy.

Ontario is the most indebted sub borrowing jurisdiction in the world. Over $300B currently, it was once double Californias debt with a fraction of their population or economic activity. On a per capita basis we are the worst on the planet.

Canadian citizens debt is the highest in the West. We have more household debt now than our entire GDP.

Canadian household debt is now on average 167% of earnings.

The most overpriced housing market in the world is in Vancouver. Toronto is not far behind.

All of the above points to one thing. Not a correction, not a "cycle" It points to a crash of major proportions. We have not allowed the market to be free, we have relied on debt and borrowing for nepotism and crony capitalism to thrive. Outright theft in many cases which was well publicized and known in Ontario, and the government not only didn't go to prison, they were re-elected to a majority. Multiple $1 billion boondoggles.

In one instance, "E-Health", billions of dollars spent, and it's still not up and running. One of the high ranking managers was asked to resign or be fired, she told the government "if you fire me I will sue you". That was a decade ago, she remains happily employed by the taxpayer, to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars and a nice pension awaits her.

Ahh, I could go on for much longer, especially in regards to Human Rights and liberty.

We don't have property rights in Canada, it is called "landholding" or "tenure". 99% of land in Canada is owned by the Queen, it is not permanently protected, and can theoretically be taken at any time at on a whim.

Our healthcare in Ontario is abysmal. Sometimes taking months to see your GP, definitely months to see a specialist. Numerous people have died while waiting to see a specialist, others have had, say cancer spread and become much worse during the wait for a simply MRI or CT scan and were given a death sentence by the doctor.

Recently Ontario technology CEO's had some get together to discuss why educated, hard working and ambitious graduates from Ontario are leaving for California in droves. One of the CEO's suggested that citizens should be forced to stay within Canada and denied leave after they graduate for a period of 5-10 years so that companies in Ontario can maintain an educated workforce.

As it stands now, many leave for America for freedom, much higher wages, less taxes, lower costs of living, better growth opportunities (Canada is notorious for stifling employee growth and promotions). This sentence may change as Trump is looking at altering the H1B visa.

Canadian parliament voted against having to provide budget details and expenses for MP's. The taxpayer funded government, themselves, voted to NOT provide information to taxpayers. Nothing Canadians can do about it, because that is how our system is structured. The checks and balances have to come within, they have to be bestowed to the Canadian public by the sheer benevolence of those anointed.

Some of Canada's methods to undermine American and other foreign businesses in Canada would surprise you. So much so, that CETA still isn't signed and completed with Europe due to the dispute resolution process, quite simply the EU doesn't trust Canada. It probably never will be fully ratified now as the E.U is at risk of dissolving if any of the recent election results are any indication.

THIS is the result of socialism and it just scratches the surface. We have perpetuated so many problems and rewarded dishonesty that our moral compass is drastically damaged. So much so that only in the last little while have these issues even been ALLOWED to be questioned. I will probably get a knock on the door from the police to question me about my spreading of fact...ALL of the above details are from mainstream media sources. Google them yourself.


Is that enough reading for you? Sorry, I type very fast

 

[buckeye45_73]

So Trump was wrong when he said the election was rigged?

Nope dems still cheat with dead votes, illegals, multi voting, all that bullshit.
But fucking the public sector unions in Wisconsin has really reduced the dems power there

We need more reform to crush public sector unions and get voter ID in place so you have one person one vote still he true.

Lol, wut? DEMS crushed the public sector unions? Are you from earth?

Are you retarded? Where did I say Dems crushed public sector unions. Either you cant read or you're trying games, either way you lose.

 

[ChrisL]

I'm not a republican and I do not think that overturning Roe vs Wade is a good move at ALL. You will lose tons of women voters. Having an abortion is a very personal decision and not one to be made by government. Not to mention, it is a very BAD idea to force women to be mothers who do not want to be mothers.

Having said that though, abortion is not a main issue that I'm concerned about. Personally, I am pro life when it comes to myself, so that really doesn't affect me.

 

[Claudette]

Socialism and it's communist cousin (which socialism inherently "evolves" into over time) are the bane of humankinds existence.

If anyone want to hear facts and reality just let me know and I can explain. Or better yet, go and move to Canada, I dare ya!

No need to go to Canada.

I've lived in Buffalo NY.

That's close enough.

Lets hear the facts and reality.

Hah, I wouldn't know where to start or end. I could literally continue to type for days. Here is a little bit:

We just gained 10,000 part time jobs and LOST 8600 FULL-TIME jobs the last month. And the state run CBC cheered our job growth, the rate was literally lowered by our metrics due to this "success".

The Toronto Police have more officers making $100,000+ than any government institution in Ontario save for OPG. Some are making $150,000 a year to work primarily at sporting events and construction sites.

Per the above, Toronto has the highest child poverty rate in Canada. Agencies supporting initiative to feed underprivileged children needed to cut their budgets deeply, while the Toronto Police increased their budgets to record numbers. We have City Council making more than $300,000 a year.

Our bank rate for borrowing is half of 1% and hasn't been more than 1% since 2008 due to anemic growth and labour numbers. They just held this rate yet again because they don't see any growth in our economy.

Ontario is the most indebted sub borrowing jurisdiction in the world. Over $300B currently, it was once double Californias debt with a fraction of their population or economic activity. On a per capita basis we are the worst on the planet.

Canadian citizens debt is the highest in the West. We have more household debt now than our entire GDP.

Canadian household debt is now on average 167% of earnings.

The most overpriced housing market in the world is in Vancouver. Toronto is not far behind.

All of the above points to one thing. Not a correction, not a "cycle" It points to a crash of major proportions. We have not allowed the market to be free, we have relied on debt and borrowing for nepotism and crony capitalism to thrive. Outright theft in many cases which was well publicized and known in Ontario, and the government not only didn't go to prison, they were re-elected to a majority. Multiple $1 billion boondoggles.

In one instance, "E-Health", billions of dollars spent, and it's still not up and running. One of the high ranking managers was asked to resign or be fired, she told the government "if you fire me I will sue you". That was a decade ago, she remains happily employed by the taxpayer, to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars and a nice pension awaits her.

Ahh, I could go on for much longer, especially in regards to Human Rights and liberty.

We don't have property rights in Canada, it is called "landholding" or "tenure". 99% of land in Canada is owned by the Queen, it is not permanently protected, and can theoretically be taken at any time at on a whim.

Our healthcare in Ontario is abysmal. Sometimes taking months to see your GP, definitely months to see a specialist. Numerous people have died while waiting to see a specialist, others have had, say cancer spread and become much worse during the wait for a simply MRI or CT scan and were given a death sentence by the doctor.

Recently Ontario technology CEO's had some get together to discuss why educated, hard working and ambitious graduates from Ontario are leaving for California in droves. One of the CEO's suggested that citizens should be forced to stay within Canada and denied leave after they graduate for a period of 5-10 years so that companies in Ontario can maintain an educated workforce.

As it stands now, many leave for America for freedom, much higher wages, less taxes, lower costs of living, better growth opportunities (Canada is notorious for stifling employee growth and promotions). This sentence may change as Trump is looking at altering the H1B visa.

Canadian parliament voted against having to provide budget details and expenses for MP's. The taxpayer funded government, themselves, voted to NOT provide information to taxpayers. Nothing Canadians can do about it, because that is how our system is structured. The checks and balances have to come within, they have to be bestowed to the Canadian public by the sheer benevolence of those anointed.

Some of Canada's methods to undermine American and other foreign businesses in Canada would surprise you. So much so, that CETA still isn't signed and completed with Europe due to the dispute resolution process, quite simply the EU doesn't trust Canada. It probably never will be fully ratified now as the E.U is at risk of dissolving if any of the recent election results are any indication.

THIS is the result of socialism and it just scratches the surface. We have perpetuated so many problems and rewarded dishonesty that our moral compass is drastically damaged. So much so that only in the last little while have these issues even been ALLOWED to be questioned. I will probably get a knock on the door from the police to question me about my spreading of fact...ALL of the above details are from mainstream media sources. Google them yourself.


Is that enough reading for you? Sorry, I type very fast

Holy shit bud. I thought we had it bad here in America.

What party is ruling in Canada now?? I thought you guys turned things around back in the mid nineties when you got rid of some of that socialist crap you were experiencing??