You people that called Bush a liar what do you call

[bedowin62]

Okay lets say that the both lied on purpose to get what they wanted.

Which lie caused the most human suffering? An illegitimate war where tens of thousands of lost their lives, were maimed or, forcing insurances companies to comply with the new rules and making some people choose a new plan? A war that shifted the balance of power in the ME to Iran, or a policy that will cost some people a little more for their insurance? A war the eroded the Good Will of the USA throughout the world or, a Health Care policy that covers previous conditions and has no benefit caps?

Did they both know they were lying or did they both believe what the were selling?

Lying is lying. Compare and contrast them all you want, the reality is both men lied. one gets a pass, one doesn't.

One was justification for an ill advised invasion an occupation of another country. The other was not justification for the ACH but a statement about a specific portion of the new law. We can't go back and give those people their lives back however, or restore the previous balance of power in the ME. We can go back and make changes to the new health care laws.

because saddam was the key to the "balance of power" in the ME
libs say the dumbest shit; and make the dumbest excuses

regime change was the official position of the clinton admin regarding iraq

 

[Truthmatters]

If your policy met the laws requirements than you could keep it as your choice IF you liked it.


You people are pretending that is a lie and pretending Bush did not LIE us into a protrected war he refused to end and lying about a war crime ?


see how dishonest and fucking insane you are

 

[bedowin62]

um; no; you CANT make the kinds of changes needed to make the ACA not a trainwreck. you losers on the left are lying to yourselves.
ur so hung up on repeal becuz to do that would be to admit failure. but repeal is the ONLY way to fix this failed law

 

[bedowin62]

you are far-left- hyper-partisan lemmings and adngry hypocrites

that's why you live in the past and turn every thread off track into rants about things you supported or endorsed but pretend you didnt; and try to go with a narrative that is a delusion you told yourselves

 

[BlindBoo]

Okay lets say that the both lied on purpose to get what they wanted.

Which lie caused the most human suffering? An illegitimate war where tens of thousands of lost their lives, were maimed or, forcing insurances companies to comply with the new rules and making some people choose a new plan? A war that shifted the balance of power in the ME to Iran, or a policy that will cost some people a little more for their insurance? A war the eroded the Good Will of the USA throughout the world or, a Health Care policy that covers previous conditions and has no benefit caps?

Did they both know they were lying or did they both believe what the were selling?

speaking of lying; what "illegitimate war"?

urban legends dont count

libs are losers who lie to themselves

"Okay lets say that the both lied on purpose to get what they wanted."

 

[bedowin62]

you SWORE you were going to impeach bush and PROVE all the "lies"

then bring him and cheny before the Hague

you couldnt do that; but you got the whole "IMPEACH BUSH!" t-shirt and coffee mug collection from Moveon.org

so your self delusions turn into urban legends

idiots and hypocrites

 

[Truthmatters]

you are far-left- hyper-partisan lemmings and adngry hypocrites

that's why you live in the past and turn every thread off track into rants about things you supported or endorsed but pretend you didnt; and try to go with a narrative that is a delusion you told yourselves

The accurate past is called history.

Those who ignore history are fucking idiots

 

[Truthmatters]

Okay lets say that the both lied on purpose to get what they wanted.

Which lie caused the most human suffering? An illegitimate war where tens of thousands of lost their lives, were maimed or, forcing insurances companies to comply with the new rules and making some people choose a new plan? A war that shifted the balance of power in the ME to Iran, or a policy that will cost some people a little more for their insurance? A war the eroded the Good Will of the USA throughout the world or, a Health Care policy that covers previous conditions and has no benefit caps?

Did they both know they were lying or did they both believe what the were selling?

speaking of lying; what "illegitimate war"?

urban legends dont count

libs are losers who lie to themselves

"Okay lets say that the both lied on purpose to get what they wanted."

well one wanted oil profits and the other wanted people to be able to go to the Dr when they needed to

 

[bedowin62]

boring left-wing losers who cant admit obama is a failure; because that means the progressive agenda has failed

so out comes the race card, the iraq war; just anything to change the subject


idiots and hypocrites

 

[Truthmatters]

Its the same as "you didn't build that".


they LIE about what he was really saying

 

[bedowin62]

speaking of lying; what "illegitimate war"?

urban legends dont count

libs are losers who lie to themselves

"Okay lets say that the both lied on purpose to get what they wanted."

well one wanted oil profits and the other wanted people to be able to go to the Dr when they needed to

the guy that wanted people to go to the doctor funded and carries out both wars; and caused more people to LOSE THE INSURANCE THEY HAD than gain insurance



idiots

 

[bedowin62]

Its the same as "you didn't build that".


they LIE about what he was really saying

record welfare and food stamps in his 6th year

he DID BUILD THAT


and the ACA is a trainwreck

ur a joke

 

[bedowin62]

you are far-left- hyper-partisan lemmings and adngry hypocrites

that's why you live in the past and turn every thread off track into rants about things you supported or endorsed but pretend you didnt; and try to go with a narrative that is a delusion you told yourselves

The accurate past is called history.

Those who ignore history are fucking idiots

those who ignore reality and live in the past are cowards with child-like minds who cant admit they failed

 

[Truthmatters]

and that is how the right is.

stupid as fucking hell and no reality in their brains.


I bet your not even an American.


you are just some asshole on a jihad to make Americans hate each other

 

[natstew]

Okay lets say that the both lied on purpose to get what they wanted.

Which lie caused the most human suffering? An illegitimate war where tens of thousands of lost their lives, were maimed or, forcing insurances companies to comply with the new rules and making some people choose a new plan? A war that shifted the balance of power in the ME to Iran, or a policy that will cost some people a little more for their insurance? A war the eroded the Good Will of the USA throughout the world or, a Health Care policy that covers previous conditions and has no benefit caps?

Did they both know they were lying or did they both believe what the were selling?

No let's not say both lied!
Lie | Define Lie at Dictionary.com
dictionary.reference.com/browse/lie*
a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood. Synonyms: prevarication, falsification.

Obama fits the definition, Bush doesn't. Obama knew he was making a false statement, Bush didn't.

To say Bush lied about Iraq having WMD's you have to concede that he is the most intelligent person on Planet Earth.

Illegitimate war? Seems I remember Congress voting almost unanimously to go to war.

 

[Truthmatters]

Obama never said you can keep any policy that doesn't meet the laws criteria.

that is what you lying assholes claim he said.

HE DIDNT

 

[BlindBoo]

Obama didn't lie.


you can keep it if you like it


IF it meets all the criteria to still exist under the rules.


SHITTY policies were discontinued

I don't recall the IF part of his speeches. But still keeping your old plan was never a major reason we had to make a change in our health care system. Iraq being a threat to the US was one of two only reasons Congress gave President Bush the authority to use military force. (Participation in 9-11 was the other btw). The only way Iraq was a threat to the USA is if they had WMD. Big lie, we must invade because of lie. Little lie, this is one of the benefits of passing the new legislation, a lie. There are many benefits to the new laws. IMO.

 

[Truthmatters]

Bush lied about his war crime

 

[Truthmatters]

Obama didn't lie.


you can keep it if you like it


IF it meets all the criteria to still exist under the rules.


SHITTY policies were discontinued

I don't recall the IF part of his speeches. But still keeping your old plan was never a major reason we had to make a change in our health care system. Iraq being a threat to the US was one of two only reasons Congress gave President Bush the authority to use military force. (Participation in 9-11 was the other btw). The only way Iraq was a threat to the USA is if they had WMD. Big lie, we must invade because of lie. Little lie, this is one of the benefits of passing the new legislation, a lie. There are many benefits to the new laws. IMO.

"You can keep it if you like it"


the whole idea was to get rid of shitty policies.


NO ONE who was sane would think people LIKED the shitty discontinued policies huh

 

[BlindBoo]

Bush dropped WP on falughia as a weapon.

That is a clear war crime.


He denied it until he was forced by the evidence to ADMITT IT.


the right wing congress REFUSED to do anything about it

Obama dropped missiles in sovereign nations without any declaration of war and killed and maimed innocent civilians.

The left wing congress refuses to do anything about it.

Congress gave the President the authority to do just that. Congress can also take it away.