13 month old boy shot and killed in Milwaukee

[2aguy]

Hmmm...this soldier tried your method at Fort Hood...and died because of it...

2009 Fort Hood shooting - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Army reserve Captain John Gaffaney tried to stop Hasan by charging him, but was mortally wounded before reaching him.[21] Civilian physician assistant Michael Cahill also tried to charge Hasan with a chair, but was shot and killed.[22] Army reserve Specialist Logan Burnett tried to stop Hasan by throwing a folding table at him, but he was shot in the left hip, fell down, and crawled to a nearby cubicle.[23]

Hmmm...3 men tried your method and failed......

 

[Brain357]

See how much faster that change was...he didn't have to look to find the magazine....now if you are planning mass murder...and you practice with a belt full of magazines....your theory will get people killed....

I have listed off several actual events where lives would have been saved. Sorry but you can't kill the theory. Just look at the Giffords shooting. Had he fired less before being stopped lives would have been saved.

One event....I have more where the shooter took their time and changed magazines and killed more people....these guys are not in a hurry....when the victims are unarmed they have nothing to worry about, so they take their time...that is what actual witnesses say about these guys....

And what about that example in the bar where the concealed carry guy shoots him after reload? See capacity limits help the armed and unarmed.

sorry Brain....he shot back....he didn't rush him....not enough time....can I see that story?

It's not about rushing him. Do that if you can like in Giffords and several other shootings. But more people have that chance to run away. That's where most the lives would be saved. Or in gang shootings like this one where they fire a few less shots and kids get hit less by strays.

 

[2aguy]

Hmmmm...let's do some math with Fort Hood...how many times did he fire....

Aftermath[edit]
An investigator later testified that 146 spent shell casings were recovered inside the building.[28] Another 68 casings were collected outside, for a total of 214 rounds fired by the attacker and responding police officers.[2

How many does that pistol hold....

20 or 10 rounds (where restricted)...so...at worst....

146 + 68 = 214

214 / 20...

10 magazine changes.....

 

[Brain357]

Hmmm...this soldier tried your method at Fort Hood...and died because of it...

2009 Fort Hood shooting - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Army reserve Captain John Gaffaney tried to stop Hasan by charging him, but was mortally wounded before reaching him.[21] Civilian physician assistant Michael Cahill also tried to charge Hasan with a chair, but was shot and killed.[22] Army reserve Specialist Logan Burnett tried to stop Hasan by throwing a folding table at him, but he was shot in the left hip, fell down, and crawled to a nearby cubicle.[23]

Hmmm...3 men tried your method and failed......

And the shooter had a hi cap magazine....

Did anyone escape the shooting Bill?

 

[Brain357]

Hmmmm...let's do some math with Fort Hood...how many times did he fire....

Aftermath[edit]
An investigator later testified that 146 spent shell casings were recovered inside the building.[28] Another 68 casings were collected outside, for a total of 214 rounds fired by the attacker and responding police officers.[2

How many does that pistol hold....

How many people escaped?

 

[Brain357]

Hmmmm...let's do some math with Fort Hood...how many times did he fire....

Aftermath[edit]
An investigator later testified that 146 spent shell casings were recovered inside the building.[28] Another 68 casings were collected outside, for a total of 214 rounds fired by the attacker and responding police officers.[2

How many does that pistol hold....

20 or 10 rounds (where restricted)...so...at worst....

146 + 68 = 214

214 / 20...

10 magazine changes.....

Why is it so important to you that scum like this have hi cap magazines?

 

[2aguy]

and this isn't even figured into your equation...

As the shooting continued outside, nurses and medics entered the building, secured the doors with a belt and rushed to help the wounded.[29] According to the responding nurses, there was so much blood covering the floor inside the building, that they were unable to maintain balance, and had difficulty reaching the wounded to help them.[

10 magazine changes Brain....please...you are now embarrassing yourself...more....

 

[2aguy]

Hmmmm...let's do some math with Fort Hood...how many times did he fire....

Aftermath[edit]
An investigator later testified that 146 spent shell casings were recovered inside the building.[28] Another 68 casings were collected outside, for a total of 214 rounds fired by the attacker and responding police officers.[2

How many does that pistol hold....

20 or 10 rounds (where restricted)...so...at worst....

146 + 68 = 214

214 / 20...

10 magazine changes.....

Why is it so important to you that scum like this have hi cap magazines?

It's not....it is important that normal people have them....obviously it was needed against this guy...and those trained soldiers....even the 3 who died....charging him.....were disarmed on the base......

Scum like him will get magazines for their guns......even if he had the 10 round magazine....those 13 people and 30 wounded would be dead.....you just don't get it.....

 

[Brain357]

Davis would not reveal details of the confrontation, but one student who witnessed it told CNN affiliate KIRO what he saw.
"She just grabbed his arm," said Erick Cervantes. "She's the one that intercepted him with the gun. He tried either reloading or tried aiming at her."

Rampage ended when hero teacher confronted gunman - CNN.com

 

[2aguy]

he was a lousy shot....he hit 43, out of 214 shots....he bypassed a lot of people just sitting there...and for some reason he didn't decide to kill them....

 

[Brain357]

and this isn't even figured into your equation...

As the shooting continued outside, nurses and medics entered the building, secured the doors with a belt and rushed to help the wounded.[29] According to the responding nurses, there was so much blood covering the floor inside the building, that they were unable to maintain balance, and had difficulty reaching the wounded to help them.[

10 magazine changes Brain....please...you are now embarrassing yourself...more....

So you are actually trying to say nobody escaped during any magazine changes?

 

[2aguy]

According to testimony from witnesses, Hasan passed up several opportunities to shoot civilians, and instead targeted soldiers in uniform,[24] who were not carrying personal firearms in accordance with military policy.[25] At one point, Hasan reportedly approached a group of five civilians hiding under a desk.[26] He looked at them, swept the dot of his pistol's laser sight over one of the men's faces, and turned away without firing.[26]

Technically, you can add these to possible kills...and they didn't rush him either....

 

[Brain357]

he was a lousy shot....he hit 43, out of 214 shots....he bypassed a lot of people just sitting there...and for some reason he didn't decide to kill them....

They weren't all his shots. Read the and responding officers part. We've no idea how many times he reloaded.
An investigator later testified that 146 spent shell casings were recovered inside the building.[28] Another 68 casings were collected outside, for a total of 214 rounds fired by the attacker and responding police officers.[

 

[2aguy]

and this isn't even figured into your equation...

As the shooting continued outside, nurses and medics entered the building, secured the doors with a belt and rushed to help the wounded.[29] According to the responding nurses, there was so much blood covering the floor inside the building, that they were unable to maintain balance, and had difficulty reaching the wounded to help them.[

10 magazine changes Brain....please...you are now embarrassing yourself...more....

So you are actually trying to say nobody escaped during any magazine changes?

I'm saying teaching that as a technique in a mass shooting is nuts....had any of those soldiers been armed, they could have ended the attack as soon as it started.....wether he had 10 round magazines or not....

 

[Brain357]

he was a lousy shot....he hit 43, out of 214 shots....he bypassed a lot of people just sitting there...and for some reason he didn't decide to kill them....

And you are glad he had hi cap magazines....

 

[Brain357]

and this isn't even figured into your equation...

As the shooting continued outside, nurses and medics entered the building, secured the doors with a belt and rushed to help the wounded.[29] According to the responding nurses, there was so much blood covering the floor inside the building, that they were unable to maintain balance, and had difficulty reaching the wounded to help them.[

10 magazine changes Brain....please...you are now embarrassing yourself...more....

So you are actually trying to say nobody escaped during any magazine changes?

I'm saying teaching that as a technique in a mass shooting is nuts....had any of those soldiers been armed, they could have ended the attack as soon as it started.....wether he had 10 round magazines or not....

Teaching a technique? What are you talking about? It's about survival whether they get a chance to rush him like at Giffords or run away like Newtown.

 

[2aguy]

Sorry Brain...the FN five-seven doesn't fire 9mm...the caliber the MPs use....

They weren't all his shots. Read the and responding officers part. We've no idea how many times he reloaded.
An investigator later testified that 146 spent shell casings were recovered inside the building.[28] Another 68 casings were collected outside, for a total of 214 rounds fired by the attacker and responding police officers.[

SPECIFICATIONS:

Caliber: 5.7×28mm
Barrel: 4.8 inches
Overall Length: 8.2 inches
Weight (unloaded): 625 grams (1.39 lbs.)
Grips: Polymer
Sights: Fixed 3-dot combat sights with optional self-luminous tritium elements
Action: SA, delayed blowback
Finish: Black
Capacity: 20 (10 where restricted)
Price: $1180

 

[2aguy]

he was a lousy shot....he hit 43, out of 214 shots....he bypassed a lot of people just sitting there...and for some reason he didn't decide to kill them....

And you are glad he had hi cap magazines....

No. I'm sad the soldiers were disarmed in front of this monster....they could have saved almost all of those people....if they had pistols....or even AR-15s....

 

[Brain357]

Sorry Brain...the FN five-seven doesn't fire 9mm...the caliber the MPs use....

They weren't all his shots. Read the and responding officers part. We've no idea how many times he reloaded.
An investigator later testified that 146 spent shell casings were recovered inside the building.[28] Another 68 casings were collected outside, for a total of 214 rounds fired by the attacker and responding police officers.[

SPECIFICATIONS:

Caliber: 5.7×28mm
Barrel: 4.8 inches
Overall Length: 8.2 inches
Weight (unloaded): 625 grams (1.39 lbs.)
Grips: Polymer
Sights: Fixed 3-dot combat sights with optional self-luminous tritium elements
Action: SA, delayed blowback
Finish: Black
Capacity: 20 (10 where restricted)
Price: $1180

Again from your link:
for a total of 214 rounds fired by the attacker and responding police officers.

Attacker and responding officers.

 

[2aguy]

How long did he kill....

The incident, which lasted about 10 minutes,[36] resulted in 13 killed—12 soldiers and one civilian; 11 died at the scene, and two died later in a hospital; and 30 people wounded.[37][38]

And he was charged by 3 people....who he managed to shoot...and killed 2....