20 year goes clubbing - leaves 3 babies alone

[ConHog]

You think that they should be criminally responsible?

No...a few nights in jail would suffice more than likely. Detain them until they can prove they are not irresponsible. Kind of like detaining illegal immigrants until their status is determined.

Most of these absentee parents are nowhere to be found as it is.

Nope, the state of Missouri has been looking for my ex for 10 years.

 

[ConHog]

No...a few nights in jail would suffice more than likely. Detain them until they can prove they are not irresponsible. Kind of like detaining illegal immigrants until their status is determined.

In this country, ONLY criminals are put in jail,

Not true, if you are awaiting trial for certain crimes they can keep you in jail until the trial starts.

Yes , thank you, you are of course correct. If you are awaiting trial you COULD be waiting in jail, although most times you can get bail. You are still correct.

 

[Ravi]

You were wrong in that thread, too. Claiming you were right and claiming you proved anything is meaningless.

There is no federal law that forbids a city from being a sanctuary city and there is no requirement for a city to use their employees to enforce federal immigration law.

Ravi, I showed you right in the fucking COTUS where it says that US FEDERAL law reigns supreme and that no jurisdiction within US borders may ignore or contradict US law. It's in the fucking document that makes us the country we are you ignorant bitch. Are you that incapable of admitting defeat?

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

How old are you? about fucking 5? No , my 5 year old niece can even admit when she is in error.

You're sheer stupidity is astounding.

You're so stupid you can't see your own mistake.

 

[ConHog]

You were wrong in that thread, too. Claiming you were right and claiming you proved anything is meaningless.

There is no federal law that forbids a city from being a sanctuary city and there is no requirement for a city to use their employees to enforce federal immigration law.

Ravi, I showed you right in the fucking COTUS where it says that US FEDERAL law reigns supreme and that no jurisdiction within US borders may ignore or contradict US law. It's in the fucking document that makes us the country we are you ignorant bitch. Are you that incapable of admitting defeat?

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

How old are you? about fucking 5? No , my 5 year old niece can even admit when she is in error.

You're sheer stupidity is astounding.

You're so stupid you can't see your own mistake.

There is no mistake ON MY PART , Article Six says that no jurisdiction can contradict US federal law.

 

[JBeukema]

I guess I am not stating what I mean properly. If a man spreads his seed, is he not under some obligation to see if it becomes a life? The woman certainly is...

No she's not

 

[JBeukema]

I guess I am not stating what I mean properly. If a man spreads his seed, is he not under some obligation to see if it becomes a life? The woman certainly is...

That's the price the woman pays for being the sole decision maker with respect to her right to choose.

Maybe. But if an actual child is born the woman is not free to abandon it or she risks arrest. The man, not so much.

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Not to mention that it was she who decided to wait nine months and have a baby without thinking about what she was going to do

 

[JBeukema]

Devil's advocate here: If a man KNOWS that the mother of his child is a drug abusin', self centered, irresponsible bitch who can barely care for herself, let alone three kids, what responsiblity does he have to remove the children from that environment?

Legally, h may have no recourse, depending on who has custody and other factors

Teachers and healthcare workers must report all suspected cases of neglect or abuse or face legal penalities. Who would know better than the father?

What if the father hasn't seen his children because the **** won't let him?

 

[ConHog]

Devil's advocate here: If a man KNOWS that the mother of his child is a drug abusin', self centered, irresponsible bitch who can barely care for herself, let alone three kids, what responsiblity does he have to remove the children from that environment?

Legally, h may have no recourse, depending on who has custody and other factors

Teachers and healthcare workers must report all suspected cases of neglect or abuse or face legal penalities. Who would know better than the father?

What if the father hasn't seen his children because the **** won't let him?

Also, notice Ravi won't even acknowledge that there are in fact women who abandon their children all the time.


I for the life of me can not understand why more people are not calling her out for her continued dishonestly. It's mind boggling.

 

[xotoxi]

No...a few nights in jail would suffice more than likely. Detain them until they can prove they are not irresponsible. Kind of like detaining illegal immigrants until their status is determined.

Most of these absentee parents are nowhere to be found as it is.

Nope, the state of Missouri has been looking for my ex for 10 years.

That's what I said...she's nowhere to be found.

 

[xotoxi]

Nope, the state of Missouri has been looking for my ex for 10 years.

And they'll never find her unless they dig up your back yard.

 

[ConHog]

Nope, the state of Missouri has been looking for my ex for 10 years.

And they'll never find her unless they dig up your back yard.

I know you're kidding. But do you know how child support enforcement works? It is SO fucked up. The first step they have to try is a wage garnishment. Well after they find an employer, which they do by cross referencing with the IRS ( and here this is fucked up new hires only have to be reported quarterly so if she started working in say jan 10 her employer doesn't have to report her until april 1) so anyway once they find an employee they send a notice of garnishment which the company has SIX weeks to respond to, well of course most are going to quit and find another job, so the process starts all over and they have to begin again, Effectively a person can pretty much hide forever if they are willing to switch jobs every 6 months or so and live in a home which is in noway theirs. It's a wonder anyone pays child support. So , yes, she's out there somewhere, and she's over $42K behind in child support, but I'll never collect. I can't even file a civil complaint for contempt of court against her because I don't have an address to have her served, b/c when child support services DOES track her down to a job, they wont tell me where it is, and we can't find an address for her anywhere.

She has just COMPLETELY abandoned her child.

 

[syrenn]

Try a private investigator.

 

[ConHog]

Try a private investigator.

I've went that route Syrenn, any idea of the cost involved, PLUS the Child Support Enforcement Agency will not work with a private investigator. It's just totally fucked up, It's seriously to the point now that my lawyer has suggested suing the Mo Department of Human Services for not doing enough to rectify the situation, but of course that would be outrageously expensive, and I do have a family to support. It's all about balances, on the one hand it's not fair to let her get with it, on the other hand do I bankrupt my family attempting to collect money from her? And as far as my kid is concerned, she isn't his mother anyway, he doesn't remember her anyway, My current wife is mom. Eventually they will catch her, and when they do I hope they use the full weight of the law to punish her if she just refuses to pay, but currently there is only so much I can do.

 

[chanel]

A divorce siuation os often quite different than a "never been married with children" In those cases, often the woman (or girl) is abandoned during pregnancy or shortly thereafter. I see it every day. Can the men be forced to pay? Yes - if they have a job. Can they be forced to give a shit? Nope. Bottom line is a baby is almost always the female's responsibility. Therefore, she needs to use protection. The male birth control pill wasn't a big seller.

 

[ConHog]

A divorce siuation os often quite different than a "never been married with children" In those cases, often the woman (or girl) is abandoned during pregnancy or shortly thereafter. I see it every day. Can the men be forced to pay? Yes - if they have a job. Can they be forced to give a shit? Nope. Bottom line is a baby is almost always the female's responsibility. Therefore, she needs to use protection. The male birth control pill wasn't a big seller.

And I have seen MANY women who babies are nothing more than weapons to. Men and women equally can be shit heads when it comes to children, and that is the bottom line.

 

[syrenn]

Try a private investigator.

I've went that route Syrenn, any idea of the cost involved, PLUS the Child Support Enforcement Agency will not work with a private investigator. It's just totally fucked up, It's seriously to the point now that my lawyer has suggested suing the Mo Department of Human Services for not doing enough to rectify the situation, but of course that would be outrageously expensive, and I do have a family to support. It's all about balances, on the one hand it's not fair to let her get with it, on the other hand do I bankrupt my family attempting to collect money from her? And as far as my kid is concerned, she isn't his mother anyway, he doesn't remember her anyway, My current wife is mom. Eventually they will catch her, and when they do I hope they use the full weight of the law to punish her if she just refuses to pay, but currently there is only so much I can do.

Well if your wife is a Deputy DA then you shouldn't have any problems.

Ask your kid if he wants the money. If he does then go after her. If you don't want to go after her then you should stop bitching.

She has a SS number so its easy for a PI to track her. Shes got a name so it would be easy for you wife and or a PI to track her.

 

[ConHog]

Try a private investigator.

I've went that route Syrenn, any idea of the cost involved, PLUS the Child Support Enforcement Agency will not work with a private investigator. It's just totally fucked up, It's seriously to the point now that my lawyer has suggested suing the Mo Department of Human Services for not doing enough to rectify the situation, but of course that would be outrageously expensive, and I do have a family to support. It's all about balances, on the one hand it's not fair to let her get with it, on the other hand do I bankrupt my family attempting to collect money from her? And as far as my kid is concerned, she isn't his mother anyway, he doesn't remember her anyway, My current wife is mom. Eventually they will catch her, and when they do I hope they use the full weight of the law to punish her if she just refuses to pay, but currently there is only so much I can do.

Well if your wife is a Deputy DA then you shouldn't have any problems.

Ask your kid if he wants the money. If he does then go after her. If you don't want to go after her then you should stop bitching.

She has a SS number so its easy for a PI to track her. Shes got a name so it would be easy for you wife and or a PI to track her.

First, my wife is a Deputy DA in Arkansas, my ex lives in Missouri, my wife has ZERO influence or jurisdiction over what they do.

Second, MO, as all states I believe, have special child support prosecutors who simply will not prosecute unless requested by the child support services of that state

Third, I have her social security number, it does me no good though because she doesn't own any real estate, so there is no tracking her down that way, there are NO vehicles in MO licensed to her, and she has been driving on a suspended DL for the past 4 years (at least.)

Fourth, it's not a matter of money. My kid drives a brand new 2010 Camaro , a swimming pool in the backyard and virtually everything he wants or needs. It's a matter of principal, I have NO doubt that if a woman was owed $40K in back child support , but didn't REALLY need the money you would still be on here screaming that the son of a bitch should pay his child support

Fifth, It is really not any of your concern what I do or do not bitch about, however you know damned well that when I see someone start to go down the "dads are assholes " road I am going to use my story to illustrate that some moms are scum to.

Get over it.

 

[chanel]

Would you like her jailed?

 

[ConHog]

Would you like her jailed?

Honestly? No. What purpose does that serve. and there is a child by another man involved one who she is married to? What I would like is for her to be held responsible for her part in our child's development. if she would just call my kid once in awhile, maybe send $50 a month, just call me and say Hey I can't afford to help much but here's what I can do.

Jesus , my son turned 18 and graduated high school last May and she was not heard from. What the hell? But my current wife was there. Threw him a big party, gave him the keys to his new ride, and was the first to get a hug after he graduated. Talk about night and day.

But under MO law she is currently committing a felony and if when she gets caught they elect to push for a prison sentence, I certainly won't fight it.

 

[chanel]

Hope it works out for you conhog. I have a great deal of respect for good dads.