71 Years

[MaryL]

...Spelling is the center of your moral universe?.....

Ignorance is the center of yours?

You have the market sewn up for that one, along with condescension. Hands down. The Japanese started American involvement in WWII, and your petty over concern on this issue makes me wonder if you are capable of informed and unbiased opinion on...anything. Misogynist are like that.

 

[Unkotare]

.... your petty over concern on this issue .....

What's "petty" about the deaths of over 200,000 civilians? What is "petty" about the only actual wartime use of atomic weapons in human history? Maybe your attempt at defending your inability to spell words you tried to use is what's really "petty" here.

 

[MaryL]

.... your petty over concern on this issue .....

What's "petty" about the deaths of over 200,000 civilians? What is "petty" about the only actual wartime use of atomic weapons in human history? Maybe your attempt at defending your inability to spell words you tried to use is what's really "petty" here.

Never said that, lets ask the japanese imperial government that slaughtered MILLIONS of innocent Chinese, Koreans and others in pursuit of their war mongering. The deaths of all japanese civilians lay at the feet of their own emperor and their ambitions.

 

[Unkotare]

.... your petty over concern on this issue .....

What's "petty" about the deaths of over 200,000 civilians? What is "petty" about the only actual wartime use of atomic weapons in human history? Maybe your attempt at defending your inability to spell words you tried to use is what's really "petty" here.

Never said that,......

Did you, or did you not, use the word "petty"?

 

[Unkotare]

[... lets ask the japanese imperial government that slaughtered MILLIONS of innocent Chinese, Koreans and others in pursuit of their war mongering. The deaths of all japanese civilians lay at the feet of their own emperor and their ambitions.

So, the dropping of the atomic bombs was an act of revenge on behalf of Chinese and Korean people? Got some evidence that this was the reasoning behind Truman's decision?

 

[MaryL]

[... lets ask the japanese imperial government that slaughtered MILLIONS of innocent Chinese, Koreans and others in pursuit of their war mongering. The deaths of all japanese civilians lay at the feet of their own emperor and their ambitions.

So, the dropping of the atomic bombs was an act of revenge on behalf of Chinese and Korean people? Got some evidence that this was the reasoning behind Truman's decision?

Um, you really don't understand any of this, do you? The japanese military needlessly and without remorse killed at least 3 to 10 million innocent civilians. I will quote from R.J. Rummel's site on the subject: "From the invasion of China in 1937 to the end of World War II, the Japanese military regime murdered near 3,000,000 to over 10,000,000 people, most probably almost 6,000,000 Chinese, Indonesians, Koreans, Filipinos, and Indochinese, among others, including Western prisoners of war. This democide was due to a morally bankrupt political and military strategy, military expediency and custom, and national culture (such as the view that those enemy soldiers who surrender while still able to resist were criminals."
The people that died in Hiroshima and Nagasaki were a drop in the bucket, and the fact it took TWO A bombs to get the attention of the japanese government, says more about the power of denial and blind authoritarianism of japanese culture than the use of brutal force by the American military. We are beating a dead horse here.

 

[Unkotare]

[... lets ask the japanese imperial government that slaughtered MILLIONS of innocent Chinese, Koreans and others in pursuit of their war mongering. The deaths of all japanese civilians lay at the feet of their own emperor and their ambitions.

So, the dropping of the atomic bombs was an act of revenge on behalf of Chinese and Korean people? Got some evidence that this was the reasoning behind Truman's decision?

Um, you really don't understand any of this, do you? ....

I understand just fine. Now answer the question: So, the dropping of the atomic bombs was an act of revenge on behalf of Chinese and Korean people? Got some evidence that this was the reasoning behind Truman's decision?

 

[MaryL]

[... lets ask the japanese imperial government that slaughtered MILLIONS of innocent Chinese, Koreans and others in pursuit of their war mongering. The deaths of all japanese civilians lay at the feet of their own emperor and their ambitions.

So, the dropping of the atomic bombs was an act of revenge on behalf of Chinese and Korean people? Got some evidence that this was the reasoning behind Truman's decision?

Um, you really don't understand any of this, do you? The japanese military needlessly and without remorse killed at least 3 to 10 million innocent civilians. I will quote from R.J. Rummel's site on the subject: "From the invasion of China in 1937 to the end of World War II, the Japanese military regime murdered near 3,000,000 to over 10,000,000 people, most probably almost 6,000,000 Chinese, Indonesians, Koreans, Filipinos, and Indochinese, among others, including Western prisoners of war. This democide was due to a morally bankrupt political and military strategy, military expediency and custom, and national culture (such as the view that those enemy soldiers who surrender while still able to resist were criminals."
The people that died in Hiroshima and Nagasaki were a drop in the bucket, and the fact it took TWO A bombs to get the attention japanese government, says more about the power of denial and blind authoritarianism of japanese culture than the use of brutal force by the American military. We are beating a dead horse here.

[... lets ask the japanese imperial government that slaughtered MILLIONS of innocent Chinese, Koreans and others in pursuit of their war mongering. The deaths of all japanese civilians lay at the feet of their own emperor and their ambitions.

So, the dropping of the atomic bombs was an act of revenge on behalf of Chinese and Korean people? Got some evidence that this was the reasoning behind Truman's decision?

Um, you really don't understand any of this, do you? ....

I understand just fine. Now answer the question: So, the dropping of the atomic bombs was an act of revenge on behalf of Chinese and Korean people? Got some evidence that this was the reasoning behind Truman's decision?

You are fixated on that revenge thing. You will have to ask Truman that. I can only presume that was a secondary if not irrelevant issue. The A bomb was developed by a mixed group, a lot of them were Europeans, with the intention of nuking Berlin and stopping fascism in Europe. And the fascist Japanese government could just as well capitulated when Germans did. No, they chose to hang on. Um, would you care to speculate as to why? That put the nuclear target on Japan. They could have quite at any time after Berlin folded. The Japanese weren't the poor little victims you make them out to be. Peal harbor and 4 years latter, BANG. Karma kicks your ass every time.

 

[Unkotare]

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You are fixated on that revenge thing......

No, YOU are. YOU are the one who keeps presenting the issue in that context. So, when you get a moment of clarity, answer the question.

 

[Unkotare]

..... The Japanese weren't the poor little victims you make them out to be. ......

I have done no such thing. Military on both sides died in shocking numbers. The US military prevailed. Here's another question for you: Were the 200,000+ civilians incinerated by atomic bombs legitimate military targets? Is that what America's about?

 

[MaryL]

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You are fixated on that revenge thing......

No, YOU are. YOU are the one who keeps presenting the issue in that context. So, when you get a moment of clarity, answer the question.

No, the Japanese weren't poor little victims here, and you always seem to mislead yourself as to whom is the perpetrator on just about any issue. I will leave you to think that one through, because that's all I have to say this year on this issue this time. Behave yourself, kid.

 

[Unkotare]

Why are you afraid to answer a simple question?


Was the dropping of the atomic bombs an act of revenge on behalf of Chinese and Korean people?

 

[whitehall]

Surely the Japanese people who are old enough to remember Hiroshima are smart enough not to buy into another propaganda issue of Obama's fake concern for nuclear weapons after he authorized and paid for the terrorist based country of Iran to construct nuclear reactors.

 

[Ringel05]

Looks like we found Unk's Cause Celebre, his windmills to tilt at........

 

[Unkotare]

Looks like we found Unk's Cause Celebre, his windmills to tilt at........

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[Ringel05]

Looks like we found Unk's Cause Celebre, his windmills to tilt at........

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[regent]

The bombs were dropped to end the war. They did the job. Imagine the wrath of the American people if after the invasions the people learned we had the means to end the war and didn't use them. If the situation were the same today, would we use them? In a minute.

 

[Unkotare]

... If the situation were the same today, would we use them? In a minute.

Not a chance.

 

[regent]

... If the situation were the same today, would we use them? In a minute.

Not a chance.

So you are saying that the American people would sit quietly after three and a half years of war, and facing an enemy that plays a surrender game, but won't surrender. Add to that facing, the biggest massacre of Americans of the war, all on the supposition that some people might worry seventy years later that some people would object to the answer for the surrender of the enemy?

 

[Unkotare]

... If the situation were the same today, would we use them? In a minute.

Not a chance.

So you are saying that the American people would sit quietly after three and a half years of war, and facing an enemy that plays a surrender game, but won't surrender. Add to that facing, the biggest massacre of Americans of the war, all on the supposition that some people might worry seventy years later that some people would object to the answer for the surrender of the enemy?

Knowing we would be deliberately targeting and incinerating hundreds of thousands of civilians at a shot in a country that was already militarily defeated and looking for terms of surrender? No, Americans would not put up with that any more than they would put up with most of that scumbag fdr's outrages against the Constitution, the American people, and our very form of government. No.