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[What, you don't know that thermite is basically aluminum and rust?
Mr. SFC Ollie:
Scientist and Physicists know quite a bit about the characteristics of thermite. Your simple "aluminum and rust" (in mixed power form) is used to weld steel rails together. Here is what Wikipedia says about the "aluminum and rust" reaction ... and it not just some "little-bit-of-rust-on-this-pipe-here-and-an-alumimun-beer-can-over-there" proximity that creates this highly exothermic reaction.
"From Wikipedia:
Thermite is a pyrotechnic composition of a metal powder and a metal oxide, which produces an exothermic oxidation-reduction reaction known as a thermite reaction. If aluminum is the reducing agent it is called an aluminothermic reaction. Most varieties are not explosive, but can create short bursts of extremely high temperatures focused on a very small area for a short period of time.
Thermites can be a diverse class of compositions. The fuels are often aluminium, magnesium, calcium, titanium, zinc, silicon, and boron. The oxidizers can be boron(III) oxide, silicon(IV) oxide, chromium(III) oxide, manganese(IV) oxide, iron(III) oxide, iron(II,III) oxide, copper(II) oxide, and lead(II,III,IV) oxide.
The most common thermite is aluminium-iron(III) oxide.
Reaction
The aluminium reduces the oxide of another metal, most commonly iron oxide, because aluminium is highly reactive:
Fe2O3 + 2Al → 2Fe + Al2O3 + heat
The products are aluminium oxide, free elemental iron,[2] and a large amount of heat. The reactants are commonly powdered and mixed with a binder to keep the material solid and prevent separation."
So are you dismissive of the ability of Thermite to weaken and cut steel beams?
I'm not sure you CAN link that.
link to what Elvis ? complete sentences would be helpful.
The National Geographic special Dive was referring to is not available on youtube as far as I know.
"only"???link to what Elvis ? complete sentences would be helpful.
The National Geographic special Dive was referring to is not available on youtube as far as I know.
only because you lack the skills
[What, you don't know that thermite is basically aluminum and rust?
Mr. SFC Ollie:
Scientist and Physicists know quite a bit about the characteristics of thermite. Your simple "aluminum and rust" (in mixed power form) is used to weld steel rails together. Here is what Wikipedia says about the "aluminum and rust" reaction ... and it not just some "little-bit-of-rust-on-this-pipe-here-and-an-alumimun-beer-can-over-there" proximity that creates this highly exothermic reaction.
"From Wikipedia:
Thermite is a pyrotechnic composition of a metal powder and a metal oxide, which produces an exothermic oxidation-reduction reaction known as a thermite reaction. If aluminum is the reducing agent it is called an aluminothermic reaction. Most varieties are not explosive, but can create short bursts of extremely high temperatures focused on a very small area for a short period of time.
Thermites can be a diverse class of compositions. The fuels are often aluminium, magnesium, calcium, titanium, zinc, silicon, and boron. The oxidizers can be boron(III) oxide, silicon(IV) oxide, chromium(III) oxide, manganese(IV) oxide, iron(III) oxide, iron(II,III) oxide, copper(II) oxide, and lead(II,III,IV) oxide.
The most common thermite is aluminium-iron(III) oxide.
Reaction
The aluminium reduces the oxide of another metal, most commonly iron oxide, because aluminium is highly reactive:
Fe2O3 + 2Al → 2Fe + Al2O3 + heat
The products are aluminium oxide, free elemental iron,[2] and a large amount of heat. The reactants are commonly powdered and mixed with a binder to keep the material solid and prevent separation."
So are you dismissive of the ability of Thermite to weaken and cut steel beams?
Even though I suspect you already know this, I happen to know enough about thermite to have appeared as a demonstrator/instructor in an Army training film about using thermite destruction equipment (Grenades, plates, powder) to destroy COMSEC equipment and classified documents. So please, do not try to give me Wikipedia for something you need. Now go ahead and deny that all the components of thermite are not found in most office buildings.
Mr. SFC Ollie:
Scientist and Physicists know quite a bit about the characteristics of thermite. Your simple "aluminum and rust" (in mixed power form) is used to weld steel rails together. Here is what Wikipedia says about the "aluminum and rust" reaction ... and it not just some "little-bit-of-rust-on-this-pipe-here-and-an-alumimun-beer-can-over-there" proximity that creates this highly exothermic reaction.
"From Wikipedia:
Thermite is a pyrotechnic composition of a metal powder and a metal oxide, which produces an exothermic oxidation-reduction reaction known as a thermite reaction. If aluminum is the reducing agent it is called an aluminothermic reaction. Most varieties are not explosive, but can create short bursts of extremely high temperatures focused on a very small area for a short period of time.
Thermites can be a diverse class of compositions. The fuels are often aluminium, magnesium, calcium, titanium, zinc, silicon, and boron. The oxidizers can be boron(III) oxide, silicon(IV) oxide, chromium(III) oxide, manganese(IV) oxide, iron(III) oxide, iron(II,III) oxide, copper(II) oxide, and lead(II,III,IV) oxide.
The most common thermite is aluminium-iron(III) oxide.
Reaction
The aluminium reduces the oxide of another metal, most commonly iron oxide, because aluminium is highly reactive:
Fe2O3 + 2Al → 2Fe + Al2O3 + heat
The products are aluminium oxide, free elemental iron,[2] and a large amount of heat. The reactants are commonly powdered and mixed with a binder to keep the material solid and prevent separation."
So are you dismissive of the ability of Thermite to weaken and cut steel beams?
Even though I suspect you already know this, I happen to know enough about thermite to have appeared as a demonstrator/instructor in an Army training film about using thermite destruction equipment (Grenades, plates, powder) to destroy COMSEC equipment and classified documents. So please, do not try to give me Wikipedia for something you need. Now go ahead and deny that all the components of thermite are not found in most office buildings.
lol...nonsense..we have already had exchanges about thermite where you showed you had only very limited understanding of the uses and properties of thermite due to a exercise you took a role in once in the army further more your line about the components of thermite being found in offices is a red herring you picked up from "debwunkers" not from any military training you received.. don't pretend
Now go ahead and deny that all the components of thermite are not found in most office buildings.
Now go ahead and deny that all the components of thermite are not found in most office buildings.
Mr. SFC Ollie:
You are absolutely correct on this one. Your credentials as a demonstrator/instructor in the army seem to have done well for you. I am glad that you pointed them out in reference to this particular issue ... because you really hit a home run.
I can only assume that you told your trainees that the pyrotechnic materials that you were going to demonstrate to them were no more that just old Budweiser cans and some rusty pipes heaped together and all you needed to do was add a fuse to the pull-top. Right?
So help me out here ... I am a little confused ...
Which of the following two things would get me in more trouble if I were to toss them in front of a public building:
1) A shopping bag full of Hostess Twinkies and a few empty Pepsi(R) glass bottles, or
2) A Molotov Cocktail (regardless of whether the wick was behaving highly exothermicly or not)?
Based on what you have pointed out ... both are nothing more than carbon and hydrogen (along with some silicon in the form of what we call 'glass'). Even if the wick were "lit" (or not) would not matter because the wick is nothing more that hydrogen and carbon ("lit" or not).
So ... actually the question is ... does the form and the combination / structure of the atoms in a material make a difference to you as a demonstrator/instructor or are the entire fields of physics, chemistry and material science simply irrelevant?
When you want to talk to me as an adult and not some imbecile, let me know.
um, when planes FULL of JET FUEL hit a building,
holy shitum, when planes FULL of JET FUEL hit a building,
Doesn't a plane have to be a TANKER to be FULL of fuel?
The maximum capacity of those PASSENGER PLANES was 25,000 gallons but only had 10,000 gallons on impact.
That is only 40% but you call it FULL.
So we can't solve a simple grade school physics problem because of all of the propaganda being thrown around.
psik
ok, i wasted 15 minutes on that videoHere is a new video that shows that even ordinary thermite (yes "Aluminum and Rust") can cut steel columns like that which was used in the WTC. This was an engineer who shows how he developed a thermite based column-cutter at home to see if he could cut steel.
The National Geographic (and others) showed that if you were amateurish, the thermite would not do any damage to the steel. Such a failure was shown as one of this engineer's initial attempts. It hilights that a poor design won't cut steel. But that with a little enineering ... and some ingeneuity ... it can.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d5iIoCiI8g
If you want to reply to this post, please watch the video first.
ok, i wasted 15 minutes on that video
do you have any actual evidence that ANYTHING similar to what he made was at the WTC site?
ok, i wasted 15 minutes on that videoHere is a new video that shows that even ordinary thermite (yes "Aluminum and Rust") can cut steel columns like that which was used in the WTC. This was an engineer who shows how he developed a thermite based column-cutter at home to see if he could cut steel.
The National Geographic (and others) showed that if you were amateurish, the thermite would not do any damage to the steel. Such a failure was shown as one of this engineer's initial attempts. It hilights that a poor design won't cut steel. But that with a little enineering ... and some ingeneuity ... it can.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d5iIoCiI8g
If you want to reply to this post, please watch the video first.
do you have any actual evidence that ANYTHING similar to what he made was at the WTC site?
ok, i wasted 15 minutes on that videoHere is a new video that shows that even ordinary thermite (yes "Aluminum and Rust") can cut steel columns like that which was used in the WTC. This was an engineer who shows how he developed a thermite based column-cutter at home to see if he could cut steel.
The National Geographic (and others) showed that if you were amateurish, the thermite would not do any damage to the steel. Such a failure was shown as one of this engineer's initial attempts. It hilights that a poor design won't cut steel. But that with a little enineering ... and some ingeneuity ... it can.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d5iIoCiI8g
If you want to reply to this post, please watch the video first.
do you have any actual evidence that ANYTHING similar to what he made was at the WTC site?
Nope, all they have is some explosive dust.
That didn't explode.
Traces of thermate at the WTC
ok, i wasted 15 minutes on that video
do you have any actual evidence that ANYTHING similar to what he made was at the WTC site?
Nope, all they have is some explosive dust.
That didn't explode.
Traces of thermate at the WTC
lil ollie blow-hard likes to pretend he has extensive knowledge of thermite
because he played some role in demonstrating its use in a very limited way
its a classic case of...ya you and whose army ?
lil ollie blow-hard likes to pretend he has extensive knowledge of thermite
because he played some role in demonstrating its use in a very limited way
its a classic case of...ya you and whose army ?
Me and my Army dumb fuck. now You will have to excuse me while I bring up my military experience that you don't like to hear about. 22 years on active duty, all but 6 years of it involved in Tactical Communications Security. But I don't know jack about thermite and it's uses to destroy stuff. The veterans who read this will know.
Carry on now.
