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A good story addresses "Why." It also presents a conflict and a resolution. Bible stories also teaches a lesson. The story about the Binding of Isaac, teaches two lessons, and those two lessons have great strength thousands of years later.And I continue to be mystified that you would think any of that matters. A parent was threatened with the death of their child. That is all that matters. There is no justification for it, only rationalization.
I was focused only on the story of Abraham and Isaac. What further exploration have you made regarding that story. I certainly did not intend for you to infer that you don't explore, and I apologize that my words came across that way.Any conclusion can be wrong. To think otherwise is pure ego. But that does not mean there has been no exploration. Why would you think that?
He (they) didn't have to flood the world.
A good story addresses "Why." It also presents a conflict and a resolution. Bible stories also teaches a lesson. The story about the Binding of Isaac, teaches two lessons, and those two lessons have great strength thousands of years later.And I continue to be mystified that you would think any of that matters. A parent was threatened with the death of their child. That is all that matters. There is no justification for it, only rationalization.
I was focused only on the story of Abraham and Isaac. What further exploration have you made regarding that story. I certainly did not intend for you to infer that you don't explore, and I apologize that my words came across that way.Any conclusion can be wrong. To think otherwise is pure ego. But that does not mean there has been no exploration. Why would you think that?
Jewish law is written as it is. They did not spare accounts of themselves ...
I am taking everything in its entirety. I am good with the Bible taking story form. It appears you would be more comfortable with the summary: Abraham said God told him no child sacrifices. (Of course, I can imagine his child-sacrificing neighbors snickering and saying, "Yeah, sure, Abe.") Even this brings up the point, of why should anyone have to be told not to kill (sacrifice or abort) their child? Why should there have to be a law against murder, against thievery, against testifying falsely?We may be talking at cross purposes. You seem to be talking about the benefits of storytelling. I am talking about the actions of God in that story. I am treating God as if he were real, not just an object lesson.
Now, if we want to switch the discussion to the role of myth in society, I am good with it.
So the ending of the story isn't important and has no impact for you?I really don't see much else to explore there. Genesis 22 really isn't that long.
Yes, that's codependence. In a nutshell.In Jewish thought the love and fear of God are to be understood as complementing one another.
So the ending of the story isn't important and has no impact for you?I really don't see much else to explore there. Genesis 22 really isn't that long.
I am taking everything in its entirety. I am good with the Bible taking story form. It appears you would be more comfortable with the summary: Abraham said God told him no child sacrifices. (Of course, I can imagine his child-sacrificing neighbors snickering and saying, "Yeah, sure, Abe.") Even this brings up the point, of why should anyone have to be told not to kill (sacrifice or abort) their child? Why should there have to be a law against murder, against thievery, against testifying falsely?We may be talking at cross purposes. You seem to be talking about the benefits of storytelling. I am talking about the actions of God in that story. I am treating God as if he were real, not just an object lesson.
Now, if we want to switch the discussion to the role of myth in society, I am good with it.
A story with no beginning...Not really. The ending does not make the beginning any less unacceptable. As I said, God had a choice and made a decision on how to proceed. I am judging that decision.
A story with no beginning...Not really. The ending does not make the beginning any less unacceptable. As I said, God had a choice and made a decision on how to proceed. I am judging that decision.
I sometimes teach English; not sure I should promote that idea!
True, Abraham was long before Moses. However, the point I was trying to make is that back in those days they used the story technique of presenting a rule...or, in Abraham's case, the changing of what was then currently considered the rule of the day.Because human being aren't particularly nice and require rules for any social group to survive. Those laws did not begin with Moses.
True, Abraham was long before Moses. However, the point I was trying to make is that back in those days they used the story technique of presenting a rule...or, in Abraham's case, the changing of what was then currently considered the rule of the day.Because human being aren't particularly nice and require rules for any social group to survive. Those laws did not begin with Moses.
Anyway, diver52, its been fun discussing all of this with you. I look forward to future discussions.
The Binding of Isaac was presented in story form. It's purpose was to change a custom of sacrificing children to a new one of not killing children.I'm not sure what you mean.
The Binding of Isaac was presented in story form. It's purpose was to change a custom of sacrificing children to a new one of not killing children.I'm not sure what you mean.
You seem to be suggesting that a line in the Bible, "Do not sacrifice children" would have an equal, even better impact all through the ages as the story that did make it into the Bible. Perhaps so, but I do enjoy stories!
I would say the reason people have paid so much attention to the teachings of Jesus is that he presented so many of them in story form.Do you think people would have paid a bit more attention to the teachings of Jesus if he had been more proficient at kicking ass?
I would say the reason people have paid so much attention to the teachings of Jesus is that he presented so many of them in story form.Do you think people would have paid a bit more attention to the teachings of Jesus if he had been more proficient at kicking ass?
Which ones are you thinking of?And yet his teachings are pretty much ignored.
