A Tax-the-Rich Scenario that Liberals Should Cheer

[danielpalos]

A number of the liberals in this forum have argued that if the rich make 90% of the all the income earned in America, they should pay an income tax rate of 90%. I have a scenario:

Suppose that the highest income that anyone earned in the hypothetical nation of Marxist Land happened to be $100,000 per year, and that only 100 of Marxist Land's 1,000 citizens earned that much. Suppose that everyone else in Marxist Land earned less than $2,000. This would make those 100 $100,000 earners the top 10% of earners in the land, and they would be earning 84% of all the income earned by Marxist Land's citizens. Oh, and suppose that all of those top 10% earners happened to be liberals, and that they were already paying an income tax rate of 37%, in addition to their property taxes.

Okay, now, what do you suppose those 100 liberals would say if Marxist Land's legislature tried to pass a law that said that the top 10% should pay an income tax rate equal to their share of the total income earned by the nation's citizens, which would be 84%? What do you think they'd say?

According to our resident liberals, this would be an eminently fair piece of legislation and a great idea, and would be a great boost to Marxist Land's economy! Do you think those 100 liberals would agree that they should pay an income tax rate of 84%?

I won't even bother to point out the stupidity of your whole argument. Suffice to say, it's just plain stupid and let's leave it at that.

Umm, sorry, but that's EXACTLY what some liberals here have proposed. Go read the liberal replies in my thread The Rich Are *Not* Paying Their Fair Share? The Facts Say Otherwise and see with your own eyes.

Yes, if you only use about every 3rd word and leave out the rest. This is another case of either selective reading or just plain making shit up. I suggest you read up on the Marginal Tax Rate that went by the way in the early 1980s. It was created in 1935 and taxed on amounts only when a ceiling was reached. For instance, in 1935, that amount was 75% at 250,000. Anything less than that was the normal taxation. Today, that amount would be adjusted to 3.4 million. What has been proposed is to put the Marginal Tax Rate at 10 million and 70%.

In 1935, only one person actually paid the Marginal Tax Rate. Just one. It's not before adjusted income, it's after adjusted income. How do you think the rich get by by paying either ridiculously low percentages or no tax at all on their income? In the 2008 Presidential Election, Obama paid 18% for the year before while Romney paid 12%. I paid about 26% myself and so did most Americans on the average. Romney had millions in income that year yet he paid very little tax. But I have to give it to him, at least he reported much of it. Most of the super rich figure out ways to pay nothing. So who, exactly, will pay that Marginal Tax Rate? No one unless they clean the tax system up which they need to do. But won't because the biggest cheaters are the ones that write the laws.

Cool, you cherry picked a few cases...BUT, BUT, BUT you twisted wacks hate “painting with a broad brush”....right?
What about the inconvenient truth below?
Top 20% of Americans Will Pay 87% of Income Tax

lol. whiners. raise the minimum wage until the Poor pay their fair share.

 

[danielpalos]

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Raise the minimum wage and compensate Labor for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment!

/----/ Direct from the Gibberish Queen

DELETED and will be reposted to address liberal replies.

Raise the minimum wage and compensate Labor for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment!

/----/ Direct from the Gibberish Queen

Just string some random words together, they will make more sense.

danielpalos posts are actually quite simple to understand....they all read the same with a slight variation.
“Give me free shit, give wetbacks free shit, we deserve free shit says the US constitution.”

Capitalism; What is That, Sayeth the Right Wing while alleging to care about the law.

 

[Cellblock2429]

DELETED and will be reposted to address liberal replies.

Raise the minimum wage and compensate Labor for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment!

/----/ Direct from the Gibberish Queen

DELETED and will be reposted to address liberal replies.

Raise the minimum wage and compensate Labor for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment!

/----/ Direct from the Gibberish Queen

Just string some random words together, they will make more sense.

danielpalos posts are actually quite simple to understand....they all read the same with a slight variation.
“Give me free shit, give wetbacks free shit, we deserve free shit says the US constitution.”

Capitalism; What is That, Sayeth the Right Wing while alleging to care about the law.

/——/ feed a fever, feed a cold and feed a hangnail

 

[danielpalos]

DELETED and will be reposted to address liberal replies.

Raise the minimum wage and compensate Labor for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment!

/----/ Direct from the Gibberish Queen

Raise the minimum wage and compensate Labor for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment!

/----/ Direct from the Gibberish Queen

Just string some random words together, they will make more sense.

danielpalos posts are actually quite simple to understand....they all read the same with a slight variation.
“Give me free shit, give wetbacks free shit, we deserve free shit says the US constitution.”

Capitalism; What is That, Sayeth the Right Wing while alleging to care about the law.

/——/ feed a fever, feed a cold and feed a hangnail

random words that only lead to gibberish.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Raise the minimum wage and compensate Labor for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment!

/----/ Direct from the Gibberish Queen

/----/ Direct from the Gibberish Queen

Just string some random words together, they will make more sense.

danielpalos posts are actually quite simple to understand....they all read the same with a slight variation.
“Give me free shit, give wetbacks free shit, we deserve free shit says the US constitution.”

Capitalism; What is That, Sayeth the Right Wing while alleging to care about the law.

/——/ feed a fever, feed a cold and feed a hangnail

random words that only lead to gibberish.

/----/ I learned from the feet of the master of gibberish - you.

 

[Cellblock2429]

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Raise the minimum wage and compensate Labor for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment!

/----/ Raise the minimum wage to $500,000 a year and then tax everybody 90% - problem solved.

 

[HenryBHough]

Indeed.

No tax has ever made a rich person (please be inclusive, knock off this "man" shit) poor.

I agree.

However it has caused many rich people to find legal ways to avoid the taxes:

Quoth Judge Learned Hand:

“Anyone may arrange his affairs so that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which best pays the treasury. There is not even a patriotic duty to increase one's taxes. Over and over again the Courts have said that there is nothing sinister in so arranging affairs as to keep taxes as low as possible. Everyone does it, rich and poor alike and all do right, for nobody owes any public duty to pay more than the law demands.”

Some instead simply reduce the level of effort they're expending. Perhaps even downsize or close businesses. A few just move to lower tax jurisdictions (countries in the case of national taxation).

Marxists (like their more tragic Democrat-Socialist Marxist wannabes) eternally underestimate the power of taxation to destroy an economy.

 

[rightwinger]

The problem with taxing the income of the wealthy is they know better than to actually have to declare income

Their accumulated wealth is untouchable

We need to apply a sales tax to them on every transfer of money. Stock sales and purchases, bonds, real estate transfers

You can have your wealth, but every time you move it around, you will pay a 1 percent fee

 

[danielpalos]

/----/ Direct from the Gibberish Queen

Just string some random words together, they will make more sense.

danielpalos posts are actually quite simple to understand....they all read the same with a slight variation.
“Give me free shit, give wetbacks free shit, we deserve free shit says the US constitution.”

Capitalism; What is That, Sayeth the Right Wing while alleging to care about the law.

/——/ feed a fever, feed a cold and feed a hangnail

random words that only lead to gibberish.

/----/ I learned from the feet of the master of gibberish - you.

i actually have valid arguments, as well. you should have learned that, too.

 

[HenryBHough]

Financial transaction taxes have been tried.

They work.

They work to drain money out of normal circulation. Out of banks and under mattresses.

Barter economies have a certain appeal but only to those who can make or grow something.

Most liberals can do neither.

 

[BlackFlag]

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^ fail

 

[Daryl Hunt]

A number of the liberals in this forum have argued that if the rich make 90% of the all the income earned in America, they should pay an income tax rate of 90%. I have a scenario:

Suppose that the highest income that anyone earned in the hypothetical nation of Marxist Land happened to be $100,000 per year, and that only 100 of Marxist Land's 1,000 citizens earned that much. Suppose that everyone else in Marxist Land earned less than $2,000. This would make those 100 $100,000 earners the top 10% of earners in the land, and they would be earning 84% of all the income earned by Marxist Land's citizens. Oh, and suppose that all of those top 10% earners happened to be liberals, and that they were already paying an income tax rate of 37%, in addition to their property taxes.

Okay, now, what do you suppose those 100 liberals would say if Marxist Land's legislature tried to pass a law that said that the top 10% should pay an income tax rate equal to their share of the total income earned by the nation's citizens, which would be 84%? What do you think they'd say?

According to our resident liberals, this would be an eminently fair piece of legislation and a great idea, and would be a great boost to Marxist Land's economy! Do you think those 100 liberals would agree that they should pay an income tax rate of 84%?

I won't even bother to point out the stupidity of your whole argument. Suffice to say, it's just plain stupid and let's leave it at that.

Umm, sorry, but that's EXACTLY what some liberals here have proposed. Go read the liberal replies in my thread The Rich Are *Not* Paying Their Fair Share? The Facts Say Otherwise and see with your own eyes.

Yes, if you only use about every 3rd word and leave out the rest. This is another case of either selective reading or just plain making shit up. I suggest you read up on the Marginal Tax Rate that went by the way in the early 1980s. It was created in 1935 and taxed on amounts only when a ceiling was reached. For instance, in 1935, that amount was 75% at 250,000. Anything less than that was the normal taxation. Today, that amount would be adjusted to 3.4 million. What has been proposed is to put the Marginal Tax Rate at 10 million and 70%.

In 1935, only one person actually paid the Marginal Tax Rate. Just one. It's not before adjusted income, it's after adjusted income. How do you think the rich get by by paying either ridiculously low percentages or no tax at all on their income? In the 2008 Presidential Election, Obama paid 18% for the year before while Romney paid 12%. I paid about 26% myself and so did most Americans on the average. Romney had millions in income that year yet he paid very little tax. But I have to give it to him, at least he reported much of it. Most of the super rich figure out ways to pay nothing. So who, exactly, will pay that Marginal Tax Rate? No one unless they clean the tax system up which they need to do. But won't because the biggest cheaters are the ones that write the laws.

Cool, you cherry picked a few cases...BUT, BUT, BUT you twisted wacks hate “painting with a broad brush”....right?
What about the inconvenient truth below?
Top 20% of Americans Will Pay 87% of Income Tax

The top 20% have almost all the money and income in comparison. Funny how that works. But the Marginal Tax Rate only really affects the top .5%. Only the top .5% makes more than 10 million a year. The old marginal Tax rate paid for the interstates, hydroelectric plants, levies, waterworks, etc.. Today, it's not there and it's come time to repair or replace those systems and the money just ins't there. And don't tell me that you don't use those services. But you would be the first to complain that they are bad. They have to be paid for.

My taxes went up. The Top 20% taxes went down. I am paying more than they are. Simple as that when you figure that there are one hell of a lot of us in the same boat. If you are making in the excess of 150,000 a year but less than 10 mil then you really don't have any skin in the game and are just trolling.

 

[BrokeLoser]

A number of the liberals in this forum have argued that if the rich make 90% of the all the income earned in America, they should pay an income tax rate of 90%. I have a scenario:

Suppose that the highest income that anyone earned in the hypothetical nation of Marxist Land happened to be $100,000 per year, and that only 100 of Marxist Land's 1,000 citizens earned that much. Suppose that everyone else in Marxist Land earned less than $2,000. This would make those 100 $100,000 earners the top 10% of earners in the land, and they would be earning 84% of all the income earned by Marxist Land's citizens. Oh, and suppose that all of those top 10% earners happened to be liberals, and that they were already paying an income tax rate of 37%, in addition to their property taxes.

Okay, now, what do you suppose those 100 liberals would say if Marxist Land's legislature tried to pass a law that said that the top 10% should pay an income tax rate equal to their share of the total income earned by the nation's citizens, which would be 84%? What do you think they'd say?

According to our resident liberals, this would be an eminently fair piece of legislation and a great idea, and would be a great boost to Marxist Land's economy! Do you think those 100 liberals would agree that they should pay an income tax rate of 84%?

I won't even bother to point out the stupidity of your whole argument. Suffice to say, it's just plain stupid and let's leave it at that.

Umm, sorry, but that's EXACTLY what some liberals here have proposed. Go read the liberal replies in my thread The Rich Are *Not* Paying Their Fair Share? The Facts Say Otherwise and see with your own eyes.

Yes, if you only use about every 3rd word and leave out the rest. This is another case of either selective reading or just plain making shit up. I suggest you read up on the Marginal Tax Rate that went by the way in the early 1980s. It was created in 1935 and taxed on amounts only when a ceiling was reached. For instance, in 1935, that amount was 75% at 250,000. Anything less than that was the normal taxation. Today, that amount would be adjusted to 3.4 million. What has been proposed is to put the Marginal Tax Rate at 10 million and 70%.

In 1935, only one person actually paid the Marginal Tax Rate. Just one. It's not before adjusted income, it's after adjusted income. How do you think the rich get by by paying either ridiculously low percentages or no tax at all on their income? In the 2008 Presidential Election, Obama paid 18% for the year before while Romney paid 12%. I paid about 26% myself and so did most Americans on the average. Romney had millions in income that year yet he paid very little tax. But I have to give it to him, at least he reported much of it. Most of the super rich figure out ways to pay nothing. So who, exactly, will pay that Marginal Tax Rate? No one unless they clean the tax system up which they need to do. But won't because the biggest cheaters are the ones that write the laws.

Cool, you cherry picked a few cases...BUT, BUT, BUT you twisted wacks hate “painting with a broad brush”....right?
What about the inconvenient truth below?
Top 20% of Americans Will Pay 87% of Income Tax

The top 20% have almost all the money and income in comparison. Funny how that works. But the Marginal Tax Rate only really affects the top .5%. Only the top .5% makes more than 10 million a year. The old marginal Tax rate paid for the interstates, hydroelectric plants, levies, waterworks, etc.. Today, it's not there and it's come time to repair or replace those systems and the money just ins't there. And don't tell me that you don't use those services. But you would be the first to complain that they are bad. They have to be paid for.

My taxes went up. The Top 20% taxes went down. I am paying more than they are. Simple as that when you figure that there are one hell of a lot of us in the same boat. If you are making in the excess of 150,000 a year but less than 10 mil then you really don't have any skin in the game and are just trolling.

But, but, but you LefTarded folks hate “old America”, the way things were, those good ole days....right?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I won't even bother to point out the stupidity of your whole argument. Suffice to say, it's just plain stupid and let's leave it at that.

Umm, sorry, but that's EXACTLY what some liberals here have proposed. Go read the liberal replies in my thread The Rich Are *Not* Paying Their Fair Share? The Facts Say Otherwise and see with your own eyes.

Yes, if you only use about every 3rd word and leave out the rest. This is another case of either selective reading or just plain making shit up. I suggest you read up on the Marginal Tax Rate that went by the way in the early 1980s. It was created in 1935 and taxed on amounts only when a ceiling was reached. For instance, in 1935, that amount was 75% at 250,000. Anything less than that was the normal taxation. Today, that amount would be adjusted to 3.4 million. What has been proposed is to put the Marginal Tax Rate at 10 million and 70%.

In 1935, only one person actually paid the Marginal Tax Rate. Just one. It's not before adjusted income, it's after adjusted income. How do you think the rich get by by paying either ridiculously low percentages or no tax at all on their income? In the 2008 Presidential Election, Obama paid 18% for the year before while Romney paid 12%. I paid about 26% myself and so did most Americans on the average. Romney had millions in income that year yet he paid very little tax. But I have to give it to him, at least he reported much of it. Most of the super rich figure out ways to pay nothing. So who, exactly, will pay that Marginal Tax Rate? No one unless they clean the tax system up which they need to do. But won't because the biggest cheaters are the ones that write the laws.

Cool, you cherry picked a few cases...BUT, BUT, BUT you twisted wacks hate “painting with a broad brush”....right?
What about the inconvenient truth below?
Top 20% of Americans Will Pay 87% of Income Tax

The top 20% have almost all the money and income in comparison. Funny how that works. But the Marginal Tax Rate only really affects the top .5%. Only the top .5% makes more than 10 million a year. The old marginal Tax rate paid for the interstates, hydroelectric plants, levies, waterworks, etc.. Today, it's not there and it's come time to repair or replace those systems and the money just ins't there. And don't tell me that you don't use those services. But you would be the first to complain that they are bad. They have to be paid for.

My taxes went up. The Top 20% taxes went down. I am paying more than they are. Simple as that when you figure that there are one hell of a lot of us in the same boat. If you are making in the excess of 150,000 a year but less than 10 mil then you really don't have any skin in the game and are just trolling.

But, but, but you LefTarded folks hate “old America”, the way things were, those good ole days....right?

Yes, the good old days for the privileged white males, right? I came from what was considered white trash back then. We were marginally treated better than Blacks back then (actually quite a bit better) but things weren't rosy for any of us and the only reason I got a break was by staying in the Military for 20 years. Rich folks had all the breaks that money could buy and not a single one of them worked nearly as hard as us poor white trash did. So go ahead and want things the way they were but the majority of the population would never stand for it.

 

[OnePercenter]

You tax the rich morons, the rich pass the taxes on down to the poor and middle class hello.

How would I do that?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Umm, sorry, but that's EXACTLY what some liberals here have proposed. Go read the liberal replies in my thread The Rich Are *Not* Paying Their Fair Share? The Facts Say Otherwise and see with your own eyes.

Yes, if you only use about every 3rd word and leave out the rest. This is another case of either selective reading or just plain making shit up. I suggest you read up on the Marginal Tax Rate that went by the way in the early 1980s. It was created in 1935 and taxed on amounts only when a ceiling was reached. For instance, in 1935, that amount was 75% at 250,000. Anything less than that was the normal taxation. Today, that amount would be adjusted to 3.4 million. What has been proposed is to put the Marginal Tax Rate at 10 million and 70%.

In 1935, only one person actually paid the Marginal Tax Rate. Just one. It's not before adjusted income, it's after adjusted income. How do you think the rich get by by paying either ridiculously low percentages or no tax at all on their income? In the 2008 Presidential Election, Obama paid 18% for the year before while Romney paid 12%. I paid about 26% myself and so did most Americans on the average. Romney had millions in income that year yet he paid very little tax. But I have to give it to him, at least he reported much of it. Most of the super rich figure out ways to pay nothing. So who, exactly, will pay that Marginal Tax Rate? No one unless they clean the tax system up which they need to do. But won't because the biggest cheaters are the ones that write the laws.

Cool, you cherry picked a few cases...BUT, BUT, BUT you twisted wacks hate “painting with a broad brush”....right?
What about the inconvenient truth below?
Top 20% of Americans Will Pay 87% of Income Tax

The top 20% have almost all the money and income in comparison. Funny how that works. But the Marginal Tax Rate only really affects the top .5%. Only the top .5% makes more than 10 million a year. The old marginal Tax rate paid for the interstates, hydroelectric plants, levies, waterworks, etc.. Today, it's not there and it's come time to repair or replace those systems and the money just ins't there. And don't tell me that you don't use those services. But you would be the first to complain that they are bad. They have to be paid for.

My taxes went up. The Top 20% taxes went down. I am paying more than they are. Simple as that when you figure that there are one hell of a lot of us in the same boat. If you are making in the excess of 150,000 a year but less than 10 mil then you really don't have any skin in the game and are just trolling.

But, but, but you LefTarded folks hate “old America”, the way things were, those good ole days....right?

Yes, the good old days for the privileged white males, right? I came from what was considered white trash back then. We were marginally treated better than Blacks back then (actually quite a bit better) but things weren't rosy for any of us and the only reason I got a break was by staying in the Military for 20 years. Rich folks had all the breaks that money could buy and not a single one of them worked nearly as hard as us poor white trash did. So go ahead and want things the way they were but the majority of the population would never stand for it.

WHAT?
Privileged White males in a nation founded and built by White males...how fucking strange. Are you one of those Loonies...one of those whom harbor White guilt?
Haha...look, another self proclaimed “military man”....damn, I’ve never seen more military trash in one place before. All you beggars tend to be “War Hero’s”. You should be ashamed of yourself for all the begging you do. My father and grandfather, both REAL hardcore military men would condemn youfor scrounging around begging for free shit...they both firmly believed that a REAL man should ALWAYS pave his own way.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Yes, if you only use about every 3rd word and leave out the rest. This is another case of either selective reading or just plain making shit up. I suggest you read up on the Marginal Tax Rate that went by the way in the early 1980s. It was created in 1935 and taxed on amounts only when a ceiling was reached. For instance, in 1935, that amount was 75% at 250,000. Anything less than that was the normal taxation. Today, that amount would be adjusted to 3.4 million. What has been proposed is to put the Marginal Tax Rate at 10 million and 70%.

In 1935, only one person actually paid the Marginal Tax Rate. Just one. It's not before adjusted income, it's after adjusted income. How do you think the rich get by by paying either ridiculously low percentages or no tax at all on their income? In the 2008 Presidential Election, Obama paid 18% for the year before while Romney paid 12%. I paid about 26% myself and so did most Americans on the average. Romney had millions in income that year yet he paid very little tax. But I have to give it to him, at least he reported much of it. Most of the super rich figure out ways to pay nothing. So who, exactly, will pay that Marginal Tax Rate? No one unless they clean the tax system up which they need to do. But won't because the biggest cheaters are the ones that write the laws.

Cool, you cherry picked a few cases...BUT, BUT, BUT you twisted wacks hate “painting with a broad brush”....right?
What about the inconvenient truth below?
Top 20% of Americans Will Pay 87% of Income Tax

The top 20% have almost all the money and income in comparison. Funny how that works. But the Marginal Tax Rate only really affects the top .5%. Only the top .5% makes more than 10 million a year. The old marginal Tax rate paid for the interstates, hydroelectric plants, levies, waterworks, etc.. Today, it's not there and it's come time to repair or replace those systems and the money just ins't there. And don't tell me that you don't use those services. But you would be the first to complain that they are bad. They have to be paid for.

My taxes went up. The Top 20% taxes went down. I am paying more than they are. Simple as that when you figure that there are one hell of a lot of us in the same boat. If you are making in the excess of 150,000 a year but less than 10 mil then you really don't have any skin in the game and are just trolling.

But, but, but you LefTarded folks hate “old America”, the way things were, those good ole days....right?

Yes, the good old days for the privileged white males, right? I came from what was considered white trash back then. We were marginally treated better than Blacks back then (actually quite a bit better) but things weren't rosy for any of us and the only reason I got a break was by staying in the Military for 20 years. Rich folks had all the breaks that money could buy and not a single one of them worked nearly as hard as us poor white trash did. So go ahead and want things the way they were but the majority of the population would never stand for it.

WHAT?
Privileged White males in a nation founded and built by White males...how fucking strange. Are you one of those Loonies...one of those whom harbor White guilt?
Haha...look, another self proclaimed “military man”....damn, I’ve never seen more military trash in one place before. All you beggars tend to be “War Hero’s”. You should be ashamed of yourself for all the begging you do. My father and grandfather, both REAL hardcore military men would condemn youfor scrounging around begging for free shit...they both firmly believed that a REAL man should ALWAYS pave his own way.

Have I asked your for free shit? Or have I asked you to make sure that children do not go to bed hungry. I am a Warrior. A Warrior makes sure the Children are fed before we eat. A Warrior makes sure that the Children are out of the cold before we warm ourselves. And if the Children are Hungry and Cold then I will also be Hungry and Cold. How many meals did you miss last week. How many nights last week did you sleep out in the street in the cold last week? A Real Military Man is a Warrior. If you don't fit the Warrior ethos then you should not claim to have ever served.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Cool, you cherry picked a few cases...BUT, BUT, BUT you twisted wacks hate “painting with a broad brush”....right?
What about the inconvenient truth below?
Top 20% of Americans Will Pay 87% of Income Tax

The top 20% have almost all the money and income in comparison. Funny how that works. But the Marginal Tax Rate only really affects the top .5%. Only the top .5% makes more than 10 million a year. The old marginal Tax rate paid for the interstates, hydroelectric plants, levies, waterworks, etc.. Today, it's not there and it's come time to repair or replace those systems and the money just ins't there. And don't tell me that you don't use those services. But you would be the first to complain that they are bad. They have to be paid for.

My taxes went up. The Top 20% taxes went down. I am paying more than they are. Simple as that when you figure that there are one hell of a lot of us in the same boat. If you are making in the excess of 150,000 a year but less than 10 mil then you really don't have any skin in the game and are just trolling.

But, but, but you LefTarded folks hate “old America”, the way things were, those good ole days....right?

Yes, the good old days for the privileged white males, right? I came from what was considered white trash back then. We were marginally treated better than Blacks back then (actually quite a bit better) but things weren't rosy for any of us and the only reason I got a break was by staying in the Military for 20 years. Rich folks had all the breaks that money could buy and not a single one of them worked nearly as hard as us poor white trash did. So go ahead and want things the way they were but the majority of the population would never stand for it.

WHAT?
Privileged White males in a nation founded and built by White males...how fucking strange. Are you one of those Loonies...one of those whom harbor White guilt?
Haha...look, another self proclaimed “military man”....damn, I’ve never seen more military trash in one place before. All you beggars tend to be “War Hero’s”. You should be ashamed of yourself for all the begging you do. My father and grandfather, both REAL hardcore military men would condemn youfor scrounging around begging for free shit...they both firmly believed that a REAL man should ALWAYS pave his own way.

Have I asked your for free shit? Or have I asked you to make sure that children do not go to bed hungry. I am a Warrior. A Warrior makes sure the Children are fed before we eat. A Warrior makes sure that the Children are out of the cold before we warm ourselves. And if the Children are Hungry and Cold then I will also be Hungry and Cold. How many meals did you miss last week. How many nights last week did you sleep out in the street in the cold last week? A Real Military Man is a Warrior. If you don't fit the Warrior ethos then you should not claim to have ever served.

WOW...that’s some warm and fuzzy shit right there...that’s DEEP.
I think I get it now...so you’re begging not for yourself...but because you’re such a noble badass you’re begging on behalf of the little wetback kids that you keep forcing on me?

 

[Cellblock2429]

The problem with taxing the income of the wealthy is they know better than to actually have to declare income

Their accumulated wealth is untouchable

We need to apply a sales tax to them on every transfer of money. Stock sales and purchases, bonds, real estate transfers

You can have your wealth, but every time you move it around, you will pay a 1 percent fee

/----/ " you will pay a 1 percent fee"
1% Year one - then in year 6 it will quietly move up to 2% then in 4 years - Congress will in the dead of night raise it to 4% until a few decades later it will be at 30%
Don't believe me - look at the history of the US Income tax.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

The top 20% have almost all the money and income in comparison. Funny how that works. But the Marginal Tax Rate only really affects the top .5%. Only the top .5% makes more than 10 million a year. The old marginal Tax rate paid for the interstates, hydroelectric plants, levies, waterworks, etc.. Today, it's not there and it's come time to repair or replace those systems and the money just ins't there. And don't tell me that you don't use those services. But you would be the first to complain that they are bad. They have to be paid for.

My taxes went up. The Top 20% taxes went down. I am paying more than they are. Simple as that when you figure that there are one hell of a lot of us in the same boat. If you are making in the excess of 150,000 a year but less than 10 mil then you really don't have any skin in the game and are just trolling.

But, but, but you LefTarded folks hate “old America”, the way things were, those good ole days....right?

Yes, the good old days for the privileged white males, right? I came from what was considered white trash back then. We were marginally treated better than Blacks back then (actually quite a bit better) but things weren't rosy for any of us and the only reason I got a break was by staying in the Military for 20 years. Rich folks had all the breaks that money could buy and not a single one of them worked nearly as hard as us poor white trash did. So go ahead and want things the way they were but the majority of the population would never stand for it.

WHAT?
Privileged White males in a nation founded and built by White males...how fucking strange. Are you one of those Loonies...one of those whom harbor White guilt?
Haha...look, another self proclaimed “military man”....damn, I’ve never seen more military trash in one place before. All you beggars tend to be “War Hero’s”. You should be ashamed of yourself for all the begging you do. My father and grandfather, both REAL hardcore military men would condemn youfor scrounging around begging for free shit...they both firmly believed that a REAL man should ALWAYS pave his own way.

Have I asked your for free shit? Or have I asked you to make sure that children do not go to bed hungry. I am a Warrior. A Warrior makes sure the Children are fed before we eat. A Warrior makes sure that the Children are out of the cold before we warm ourselves. And if the Children are Hungry and Cold then I will also be Hungry and Cold. How many meals did you miss last week. How many nights last week did you sleep out in the street in the cold last week? A Real Military Man is a Warrior. If you don't fit the Warrior ethos then you should not claim to have ever served.

WOW...that’s some warm and fuzzy shit right there...that’s DEEP.
I think I get it now...so you’re begging not for yourself...but because you’re such a noble badass you’re begging on behalf of the little wetback kids that you keep forcing on me?

Funny you should bring that up. When I go out on North Avenue or by the Soup Kitchen, I see white children with single mothers as well. We have only one shelter here and I see them turn entire families away because they are full up. Hunger and Cold doesn't know race. But you do. You overlook the whites that are out on that street. Or do you want us to send all the white homeless to your home so you can put them up?