Abortions: Should Women be Allowed to Choose?

[JoeB131]

All of those things are available now.

No, they aren't.

Now, employers can fire employees if they get pregnant, which based on our previous discussions, you are totally good with.

Prove it. That would actually be against the law to do. Since you cannot discriminate based on sex, age, religion, race or handicap. Please, link us to that assertion.

And just so you know "no they aren't" does not count.

Guy, a lot of shit is against the law.

Doesn't mean it doesn't happen all the time.

Last place I worked, the place that cured me of Republican Bullshit forever, had a boss who fired female employees the minute they let us know they were pregnant.

Yeah, there are "non-discrimination laws", which become UTTERLY MEANINGLESS when you also have "At Will Employment".

Being a pregnant waitress can get you fired - Salon.com

Women Claim Secret Recording Shows They Were Fired For Being Pregnant - ABC News

 

[paperview]

Who ever that would destroy their own child is a monster. One that I wouldn't want anything to do with.

It is not a child. It is potentially a child. One third of all potential children don't make it. It's called "spontaneous abortion".

What gives YOU the right to tell ME what to do?

I have the right to tell you not to kill children, and to prevent you from doing so, should you show an indication that you might.

Anything else?

And how, preytell, <ahem> do you intend to do that?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Fair enough.

For me personally the last year was great. Worked for a widower with a large life insurance policy payout who wanted her whole house inside and out remodeled. I only have one crew anymore so it was enough to keep us busy all year. Overall it's picking up slowly.

I service several GC's in Florida. Business is up over last Spring.

Maybe looking at it from the perspective of Beyond Sucky to a little less Sucky...lol
That is now the Problem....Sucky but better than Really Sucky has become the New Norm.........

Best course of action will be to Kill the Government....It simply cannot be reformed.
It is valueless for Capitalism at this Point....Only good for Crony Socialism and Crony Capitalism.....

Not advocating of course, but were (unmmm) no more than 6 of the Skunks taken out.....the entire flavor of Outrageous Government would quickly and positively turn on a dime....

Further, since half the country Wants Socialism/Liberalism and half the country wants private enterprise and capitalism/conservatism.....No alternative short of civil war can or will work.....better course would be peaceful DIVORCE....no fault.....

NE, Chicago, and Left Coast.....go your way and best of Luck.....
South, Central, and the other Fly Over States....go your way and best of Luck

Ya Think?

I think that is childish thinking. I think that if YOU get to call yourself an "intel guy", we might just be as fucked as you say we are.

 

[SMP]

No, they aren't.

Now, employers can fire employees if they get pregnant, which based on our previous discussions, you are totally good with.

Prove it. That would actually be against the law to do. Since you cannot discriminate based on sex, age, religion, race or handicap. Please, link us to that assertion.

And just so you know "no they aren't" does not count.

Guy, a lot of shit is against the law.

Doesn't mean it doesn't happen all the time.

Last place I worked, the place that cured me of Republican Bullshit forever, had a boss who fired female employees the minute they let us know they were pregnant.

Yeah, there are "non-discrimination laws", which become UTTERLY MEANINGLESS when you also have "At Will Employment".

Being a pregnant waitress can get you fired - Salon.com

Women Claim Secret Recording Shows They Were Fired For Being Pregnant - ABC News

Women Entitlement.......Well lets see what 50 years of this shit has accomplished. Today Two People earn what One did 50 years ago, while the kids become incrementally more stupid and useless......

Women Entitlement.......We now have 5 foot Cops, who have to shoot rather than physically engage an Offender.

Women Entitlement.....We now have "Social Queers" rather than just Biological Queers.

Women Entitlement.....We now have Wussified Pastors who are terrified to Lead on Christian Values.....

Women Entitlement.....Men no longer have respect for their Sex....because they have no respect for men's sex.....

Ad Hom......Of Course......

 

[wihosa]

Some pent up anger there. Maybe it's you.

As for civil war, why do you hate America?

 

[paperview]

Prove it. That would actually be against the law to do. Since you cannot discriminate based on sex, age, religion, race or handicap. Please, link us to that assertion.

And just so you know "no they aren't" does not count.

Guy, a lot of shit is against the law.

Doesn't mean it doesn't happen all the time.

Last place I worked, the place that cured me of Republican Bullshit forever, had a boss who fired female employees the minute they let us know they were pregnant.

Yeah, there are "non-discrimination laws", which become UTTERLY MEANINGLESS when you also have "At Will Employment".

Being a pregnant waitress can get you fired - Salon.com

Women Claim Secret Recording Shows They Were Fired For Being Pregnant - ABC News

Women Entitlement.......Well lets see what 50 years of this shit has accomplished. Today Two People earn what One did 50 years ago, while the kids become incrementally more stupid and useless......

Women Entitlement.......We now have 5 foot Cops, who have to shoot rather than physically engage an Offender.

Women Entitlement.....We now have "Social Queers" rather than just Biological Queers.

Women Entitlement.....We now have Wussified Pastors who are terrified to Lead on Christian Values.....

Women Entitlement.....Men no longer have respect for their Sex....because they have no respect for men's sex.....

Ad Hom......Of Course......

...the fuck??

 

[billyerock1991]

Should women be allowed to choose what they do with their bodies? Absolutely.

And they have plenty of options to choose from. Birth control pills, condoms, abstinence and natural sex.

Those are all choices.

Pregnancy isn't a choice; it's the outcome of a decision that had a choice.

And abortions aren't about a woman's body; they're about another body, very much alive, forming within the woman's body. So a woman's "right-to-choose" should be about what the woman does with her body; not the body of an infant she chose to have.

And if we can all agree that every human being is born with the inherent right to live, then abortions are clear violations of this right. As the baby is never consulted with when abortions are decided.

wrong !!!!!! wrong as wrong can be ... you of all people haven't any right on this planet to tell any human being what to do with their body period ... if they don't want to have a baby because it wrecks their figure, gives them stretch marks, then so be it ... you don't get to choose what birth control method they want to choose ... period

 

[Zoom-boing]

Should women be allowed to choose what they do with their bodies? Absolutely.

And they have plenty of options to choose from. Birth control pills, condoms, abstinence and natural sex.

Those are all choices.

Pregnancy isn't a choice; it's the outcome of a decision that had a choice.

And abortions aren't about a woman's body; they're about another body, very much alive, forming within the woman's body. So a woman's "right-to-choose" should be about what the woman does with her body; not the body of an infant she chose to have.

And if we can all agree that every human being is born with the inherent right to live, then abortions are clear violations of this right. As the baby is never consulted with when abortions are decided.

wrong !!!!!! wrong as wrong can be ... you of all people haven't any right on this planet to tell any human being what to do with their body period ... if they don't want to have a baby because it wrecks their figure, gives them stretch marks, then so be it ... you don't get to choose what birth control method they want to choose ... period

What part of a woman's body is no longer intact after she has an abortion?

 

[JoeB131]

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Women Entitlement.......Well lets see what 50 years of this shit has accomplished. Today Two People earn what One did 50 years ago, while the kids become incrementally more stupid and useless......

Women Entitlement.......We now have 5 foot Cops, who have to shoot rather than physically engage an Offender.

Women Entitlement.....We now have "Social Queers" rather than just Biological Queers.

Women Entitlement.....We now have Wussified Pastors who are terrified to Lead on Christian Values.....

Women Entitlement.....Men no longer have respect for their Sex....because they have no respect for men's sex.....

Ad Hom......Of Course......

Yeah, dude, you need to get over your issues with women. Seriously, man.

 

[Esmeralda]

Perhaps the question needs to be posed in a more fundamental manner. Who should dominate: Men or Women?

Of course the Intellectually superior would demand they be treated co-equally.....This would of course be the truly Socialist and Utopia World of the Far Left Dreams.....

But you see, the facts are that at any time and at any place....Men can dominate if they choose....after all one is the Poker and one is the Pokee....
How bout this....I catch you even thinking about having sex and a baby out of wedlock little girl...and I will kick your 5 foot 5 inch ass.....frankly if you are a 6 footer female amazon, I will still kick your little female ass....Now lets see.....If this is true...the only rights you have little girl are the rights that your dominate Males ALLOW YOU TO HAVE....ya know at a basic level....But lets add some guns and other weapons....a start on Equalizing the Playing field.....lol

Give us some more female dominant logic little girl....

Talk about sociopaths....omfg!!

 

[paperview]

Perhaps the question needs to be posed in a more fundamental manner. Who should dominate: Men or Women?

Of course the Intellectually superior would demand they be treated co-equally.....This would of course be the truly Socialist and Utopia World of the Far Left Dreams.....

But you see, the facts are that at any time and at any place....Men can dominate if they choose....after all one is the Poker and one is the Pokee....
How bout this....I catch you even thinking about having sex and a baby out of wedlock little girl...and I will kick your 5 foot 5 inch ass.....frankly if you are a 6 footer female amazon, I will still kick your little female ass....Now lets see.....If this is true...the only rights you have little girl are the rights that your dominate Males ALLOW YOU TO HAVE....ya know at a basic level....But lets add some guns and other weapons....a start on Equalizing the Playing field.....lol

Give us some more female dominant logic little girl....

Talk about sociopaths....omfg!!

Impotent coward troll is coward trolling.

 

[JoeB131]

Perhaps the question needs to be posed in a more fundamental manner. Who should dominate: Men or Women?

Of course the Intellectually superior would demand they be treated co-equally.....This would of course be the truly Socialist and Utopia World of the Far Left Dreams.....

But you see, the facts are that at any time and at any place....Men can dominate if they choose....after all one is the Poker and one is the Pokee....
How bout this....I catch you even thinking about having sex and a baby out of wedlock little girl...and I will kick your 5 foot 5 inch ass.....frankly if you are a 6 footer female amazon, I will still kick your little female ass....Now lets see.....If this is true...the only rights you have little girl are the rights that your dominate Males ALLOW YOU TO HAVE....ya know at a basic level....But lets add some guns and other weapons....a start on Equalizing the Playing field.....lol

Give us some more female dominant logic little girl....

Talk about sociopaths....omfg!!

My reaction...

 

[koshergrl]

It is not a child. It is potentially a child. One third of all potential children don't make it. It's called "spontaneous abortion".

What gives YOU the right to tell ME what to do?

I have the right to tell you not to kill children, and to prevent you from doing so, should you show an indication that you might.

Anything else?

And how, preytell, <ahem> do you intend to do that?

PrAy tell, and I intend to do that by opening my mouth, picketing, and telling people they're committing murder.

OTay?

 

[wihosa]

Ok have at it. The rest of us will continue to ignore you.

 

[koshergrl]

Who are you speaking for, exactly?

 

[Dragonlady]

Women Entitlement.......Well lets see what 50 years of this shit has accomplished. Today Two People earn what One did 50 years ago, while the kids become incrementally more stupid and useless......

That has nothing to do with women's entitlement and everything to do with Reaganomics or whatever you want to call Republican economic policies. The Republicans have been starving the public education process since Reagan, and now you have an education system going into the toilet.

Supply side economics believes that "personal responsibility" extends to education your children. That children should be going to charter schools, not public schools. If you make the public system bad enough, no one will use it. That plan seems to be working.

Women Entitlement.....We now have Wussified Pastors who are terrified to Lead on Christian Values.....

Are you talking Christian values or right wing fundamentalist values? 'Cause right wing fundamentalist values do not bear any relation to the Christian values I was raised with.

Women Entitlement.....Men no longer have respect for their Sex....because they have no respect for men's sex.....

Men get the respect they deserve. My husband is a good man and he is respected by everyone who knows him.

Obviously you're getting the level of respect from women that you deserve.

 

[koshergrl]

You wouldn't know a Christian value if it sat on your face and wiggled. Your perceptions have nothing to do with reality, any more than your comments do.

 

[NYcarbineer]

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Nope. The man's sperm is responsible for initiating the cell division, his half of the genetic code plays an equal part to the formation of the child as hers does. His genetic material is right alongside during gestation. I didn't miss anything. I paid attention in Biology class. Apparently all you have are your political biases.

Guy, I was very right wing until about six years ago, when I realized the only real divisions are not based on sex, race, class or religion, but on the haves and the have nots.

Male ego aside, a baby only happens if a woman decides she wants it to happen. Getting the sperm is the easy part.

Even the ugliest woman can get sperm if she wants it bad enough.

But the reality is, no matter what the laws are, if women want abortions, they are going to get abortions.

And? The same holds true for anything.

What kind of criminal penalties do you want to subject women to in order to deter them from having abortions?

 

[koshergrl]

Why do you tards obsess about that? What does it have to do with anything?

 

[paperview]

I have the right to tell you not to kill children, and to prevent you from doing so, should you show an indication that you might.

Anything else?

And how, preytell, <ahem> do you intend to do that?

PrAy tell, and I intend to do that by opening my mouth, picketing, and telling people they're committing murder.

OTay?

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Better to yell at women walking into Planned Parenthood clinics and scream murderer at them, I guess.