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Still waiting for your response.I will agree that "guns are not the issue" to the extent that changing our gun loving culture is the ONLY way to reduce deaths. But the arguments you keep making for MORE guns is not the answer, at all at all at all.
Look, bud, I've tried to respond to your same questions at least twice, and that's actually about enough for me. And I got my understanding of ad hominem from Google to start with, but thanks for trying to help.Still waiting for your response.I will agree that "guns are not the issue" to the extent that changing our gun loving culture is the ONLY way to reduce deaths. But the arguments you keep making for MORE guns is not the answer, at all at all at all.
For every gun used to commit murder each day, 16,000,000 are not.
For every gun used to murder an innocent victim each day, 79,300,000 are not.
Why would a reasoned, knowledgeable, honest person look at this and conclude, or support the conclusion, that the sale of guns should be banned and existing guns should be confiscated?
Actually, even PBS says that was a big reason. Been there and done that one already.We have talked about this before. It is disrespectful to keep bringing up the Nazi victims as deluded people who could have somehow defended themselves from Hitler with handguns. If you aren't a computer generated program, I do wish you would quit throwing that one at me.
You don't like it because it puts in bold relief the stupidity or your position on guns....had the rest of Europe been as well armed as the civilians in Switzerland, the Germans could not have held any of the territory they took...and they could not have murdered 12,000,000 million innocent men, women and children.....
Switzerland was not invaded....they had 435,000 civilians armed with rifles and pistols with orders and the will to resist any invasion......and German did not invade them...
With 10 pistols the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto held off the might of the German occupiers for weeks.......10 pistols.........imagine if the entire civilian population of Poland was as well armed as we are.....there would not have been a Holocaust in Poland...
And that is the truth.
Yes just a few more pistols would have defeated the Germans.
The population of the Warsaw ghetto at the time of the genocide was 400,000.....asswipe.
it only took 435,000 Swiss civilians , armed with rifles and Pistols to keep the Germans from invading and occupying their country....
Imagine 400,000 rifles instead of 10 pistols you moron....
400,000
The ghetto was enclosed by a wall that was over 10 feet high, topped with barbed wire, and closely guarded to prevent movement between the ghetto and the rest of Warsaw. The population of the ghetto, increased by Jews compelled to move in from nearby towns, was estimated to be over 400,000 Jews.
Warsaw ghetto - United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
https://www.ushmm.org/.../articl...
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
Cute, but there are many reasons they did not attack the Swiss. I doubt that is one they even considered.
Look,. lassie... you haven't even begun to address these questions as they relate to why reasoned, knowledgeable and honest people should/would buy your argument.Look, bud, I've tried to respond to your same questions at least twice, and that's actually about enough for me.Still waiting for your response.I will agree that "guns are not the issue" to the extent that changing our gun loving culture is the ONLY way to reduce deaths. But the arguments you keep making for MORE guns is not the answer, at all at all at all.
For every gun used to commit murder each day, 16,000,000 are not.
For every gun used to murder an innocent victim each day, 79,300,000 are not.
Why would a reasoned, knowledgeable, honest person look at this and conclude, or support the conclusion, that the sale of guns should be banned and existing guns should be confiscated?
I have always felt the banks had a lot to do with it. And no one knows exactly why Hitler amassed a force to invade them, but never did. There were lots of reasons, no doubt, but the citizenry being armed did factor into it, they say. "They" being reasonable people who don't spend their days dreaming of being an armed Hero.Actually, even PBS says that was a big reason. Been there and done that one already.You don't like it because it puts in bold relief the stupidity or your position on guns....had the rest of Europe been as well armed as the civilians in Switzerland, the Germans could not have held any of the territory they took...and they could not have murdered 12,000,000 million innocent men, women and children.....
Switzerland was not invaded....they had 435,000 civilians armed with rifles and pistols with orders and the will to resist any invasion......and German did not invade them...
With 10 pistols the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto held off the might of the German occupiers for weeks.......10 pistols.........imagine if the entire civilian population of Poland was as well armed as we are.....there would not have been a Holocaust in Poland...
And that is the truth.
Yes just a few more pistols would have defeated the Germans.
The population of the Warsaw ghetto at the time of the genocide was 400,000.....asswipe.
it only took 435,000 Swiss civilians , armed with rifles and Pistols to keep the Germans from invading and occupying their country....
Imagine 400,000 rifles instead of 10 pistols you moron....
400,000
The ghetto was enclosed by a wall that was over 10 feet high, topped with barbed wire, and closely guarded to prevent movement between the ghetto and the rest of Warsaw. The population of the ghetto, increased by Jews compelled to move in from nearby towns, was estimated to be over 400,000 Jews.
Warsaw ghetto - United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
https://www.ushmm.org/.../articl...
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
Cute, but there are many reasons they did not attack the Swiss. I doubt that is one they even considered.
There are many theories on the subject:
Switzerland was no threat to Germany and during this time didn't have much to offer, neither wealth nor resources. But it did have a main trading route to Italy which would stay protected from the allies as long as Switzerland stayed neutral. On top of that it is well known that Swiss banks accepted Nazi gold.
Nope. Just sick of chewing my cabbage twice, thrice.Look,. lassie... you haven't even begun to address these questions as they relate to why reasoned, knowledgeable and honest people should/would buy your argument.Look, bud, I've tried to respond to your same questions at least twice, and that's actually about enough for me.Still waiting for your response.I will agree that "guns are not the issue" to the extent that changing our gun loving culture is the ONLY way to reduce deaths. But the arguments you keep making for MORE guns is not the answer, at all at all at all.
For every gun used to commit murder each day, 16,000,000 are not.
For every gun used to murder an innocent victim each day, 79,300,000 are not.
Why would a reasoned, knowledgeable, honest person look at this and conclude, or support the conclusion, that the sale of guns should be banned and existing guns should be confiscated?
Perhaps you fully recognize that your argument rests on emotion, ignorance and/or dishonesty?
I have always felt the banks had a lot to do with it. And no one knows exactly why Hitler amassed a force to invade them, but never did. There were lots of reasons, no doubt, but the citizenry being armed did factor into it, they say. "They" being reasonable people who don't spend their days dreaming of being an armed Hero.Actually, even PBS says that was a big reason. Been there and done that one already.Yes just a few more pistols would have defeated the Germans.
The population of the Warsaw ghetto at the time of the genocide was 400,000.....asswipe.
it only took 435,000 Swiss civilians , armed with rifles and Pistols to keep the Germans from invading and occupying their country....
Imagine 400,000 rifles instead of 10 pistols you moron....
400,000
The ghetto was enclosed by a wall that was over 10 feet high, topped with barbed wire, and closely guarded to prevent movement between the ghetto and the rest of Warsaw. The population of the ghetto, increased by Jews compelled to move in from nearby towns, was estimated to be over 400,000 Jews.
Warsaw ghetto - United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
https://www.ushmm.org/.../articl...
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
Cute, but there are many reasons they did not attack the Swiss. I doubt that is one they even considered.
There are many theories on the subject:
Switzerland was no threat to Germany and during this time didn't have much to offer, neither wealth nor resources. But it did have a main trading route to Italy which would stay protected from the allies as long as Switzerland stayed neutral. On top of that it is well known that Swiss banks accepted Nazi gold.
Good to see that we -both- know reasoned, knowledgeable, honest people, looking at the numbers presented here, will neither conclude nor support the conclusion that the sale of guns should be banned and existing guns should be confiscated.Nope. Just sick of chewing my cabbage twice, thrice.Look,. lassie... you haven't even begun to address these questions as they relate to why reasoned, knowledgeable and honest people should/would buy your argument.Look, bud, I've tried to respond to your same questions at least twice, and that's actually about enough for me.Still waiting for your response.I will agree that "guns are not the issue" to the extent that changing our gun loving culture is the ONLY way to reduce deaths. But the arguments you keep making for MORE guns is not the answer, at all at all at all.
For every gun used to commit murder each day, 16,000,000 are not.
For every gun used to murder an innocent victim each day, 79,300,000 are not.
Why would a reasoned, knowledgeable, honest person look at this and conclude, or support the conclusion, that the sale of guns should be banned and existing guns should be confiscated?
Perhaps you fully recognize that your argument rests on emotion, ignorance and/or dishonesty?
Why did Hitler not invade Sweden?I have always felt the banks had a lot to do with it. And no one knows exactly why Hitler amassed a force to invade them, but never did. There were lots of reasons, no doubt, but the citizenry being armed did factor into it, they say. "They" being reasonable people who don't spend their days dreaming of being an armed Hero.Actually, even PBS says that was a big reason. Been there and done that one already.The population of the Warsaw ghetto at the time of the genocide was 400,000.....asswipe.
it only took 435,000 Swiss civilians , armed with rifles and Pistols to keep the Germans from invading and occupying their country....
Imagine 400,000 rifles instead of 10 pistols you moron....
400,000
The ghetto was enclosed by a wall that was over 10 feet high, topped with barbed wire, and closely guarded to prevent movement between the ghetto and the rest of Warsaw. The population of the ghetto, increased by Jews compelled to move in from nearby towns, was estimated to be over 400,000 Jews.
Warsaw ghetto - United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
https://www.ushmm.org/.../articl...
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
Cute, but there are many reasons they did not attack the Swiss. I doubt that is one they even considered.
There are many theories on the subject:
Switzerland was no threat to Germany and during this time didn't have much to offer, neither wealth nor resources. But it did have a main trading route to Italy which would stay protected from the allies as long as Switzerland stayed neutral. On top of that it is well known that Swiss banks accepted Nazi gold.
I'm not so sure. Sweden was also not attacked. It certainly was not because of their armed citizenry.
Oh, go fry ice.Good to see that we -both- know reasoned, knowledgeable, honest people, looking at the numbers presented here, will neither conclude nor support the conclusion that the sale of guns should be banned and existing guns should be confiscated.Nope. Just sick of chewing my cabbage twice, thrice.Look,. lassie... you haven't even begun to address these questions as they relate to why reasoned, knowledgeable and honest people should/would buy your argument.Look, bud, I've tried to respond to your same questions at least twice, and that's actually about enough for me.Still waiting for your response.I will agree that "guns are not the issue" to the extent that changing our gun loving culture is the ONLY way to reduce deaths. But the arguments you keep making for MORE guns is not the answer, at all at all at all.
For every gun used to commit murder each day, 16,000,000 are not.
For every gun used to murder an innocent victim each day, 79,300,000 are not.
Why would a reasoned, knowledgeable, honest person look at this and conclude, or support the conclusion, that the sale of guns should be banned and existing guns should be confiscated?
Perhaps you fully recognize that your argument rests on emotion, ignorance and/or dishonesty?
Truth hurts, eh?Oh, go fry ice.Good to see that we -both- know reasoned, knowledgeable, honest people, looking at the numbers presented here, will neither conclude nor support the conclusion that the sale of guns should be banned and existing guns should be confiscated.Nope. Just sick of chewing my cabbage twice, thrice.Look,. lassie... you haven't even begun to address these questions as they relate to why reasoned, knowledgeable and honest people should/would buy your argument.Look, bud, I've tried to respond to your same questions at least twice, and that's actually about enough for me.Still waiting for your response.
For every gun used to commit murder each day, 16,000,000 are not.
For every gun used to murder an innocent victim each day, 79,300,000 are not.
Why would a reasoned, knowledgeable, honest person look at this and conclude, or support the conclusion, that the sale of guns should be banned and existing guns should be confiscated?
Perhaps you fully recognize that your argument rests on emotion, ignorance and/or dishonesty?
Many gun owners have hundreds of guns. They have more guns than hands. The number of guns does not matter. Our rates of death compared to other countries is what matters.
Nope......that doesn't matter at all.....normal, law abiding people do not shoot other people...
Britain confiscated their guns.....now only criminals and cops have guns....and their gun murder rate stayed the same...but the gun crime rate did increase last year by 4%....in an island nation....which confiscated civilian guns ....and has extreme gun control for the rich and powerful and their hunting shotguns......
How does their gun crime rate compare to ours?
It was always lower than ours even before they confiscated their guns......they confiscated their guns...and the gun crime rate stayed the same...confiscating guns from people who did not use them to commit crime did not lower the gun crime rate...in fact it went up....then went back to the same level.......
They had a low gun murder rate compared to us long before they confiscated guns.......and our gun murder rate went down as more Americans owned and carried guns....
You mean crime has gone down since the Bill Clinton crime bill.
I've been trying to point that out to him for ages.
I have always felt the banks had a lot to do with it. And no one knows exactly why Hitler amassed a force to invade them, but never did. There were lots of reasons, no doubt, but the citizenry being armed did factor into it, they say. "They" being reasonable people who don't spend their days dreaming of being an armed Hero.Actually, even PBS says that was a big reason. Been there and done that one already.Yes just a few more pistols would have defeated the Germans.
The population of the Warsaw ghetto at the time of the genocide was 400,000.....asswipe.
it only took 435,000 Swiss civilians , armed with rifles and Pistols to keep the Germans from invading and occupying their country....
Imagine 400,000 rifles instead of 10 pistols you moron....
400,000
The ghetto was enclosed by a wall that was over 10 feet high, topped with barbed wire, and closely guarded to prevent movement between the ghetto and the rest of Warsaw. The population of the ghetto, increased by Jews compelled to move in from nearby towns, was estimated to be over 400,000 Jews.
Warsaw ghetto - United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
https://www.ushmm.org/.../articl...
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
Cute, but there are many reasons they did not attack the Swiss. I doubt that is one they even considered.
There are many theories on the subject:
Switzerland was no threat to Germany and during this time didn't have much to offer, neither wealth nor resources. But it did have a main trading route to Italy which would stay protected from the allies as long as Switzerland stayed neutral. On top of that it is well known that Swiss banks accepted Nazi gold.
I have always felt the banks had a lot to do with it. And no one knows exactly why Hitler amassed a force to invade them, but never did. There were lots of reasons, no doubt, but the citizenry being armed did factor into it, they say. "They" being reasonable people who don't spend their days dreaming of being an armed Hero.Actually, even PBS says that was a big reason. Been there and done that one already.The population of the Warsaw ghetto at the time of the genocide was 400,000.....asswipe.
it only took 435,000 Swiss civilians , armed with rifles and Pistols to keep the Germans from invading and occupying their country....
Imagine 400,000 rifles instead of 10 pistols you moron....
400,000
The ghetto was enclosed by a wall that was over 10 feet high, topped with barbed wire, and closely guarded to prevent movement between the ghetto and the rest of Warsaw. The population of the ghetto, increased by Jews compelled to move in from nearby towns, was estimated to be over 400,000 Jews.
Warsaw ghetto - United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
https://www.ushmm.org/.../articl...
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
Cute, but there are many reasons they did not attack the Swiss. I doubt that is one they even considered.
There are many theories on the subject:
Switzerland was no threat to Germany and during this time didn't have much to offer, neither wealth nor resources. But it did have a main trading route to Italy which would stay protected from the allies as long as Switzerland stayed neutral. On top of that it is well known that Swiss banks accepted Nazi gold.
435,000 armed civilians ready to fight any occupation......unlike all the other countries hitler invaded and occupied....
Need to start regulating who can be doctors.To put a little perspective on the issue of which is more dangerous, guns or Doctors...even if you add intentional, illegal use of guns you get 8,124 gun murders in 2014.........you still don't come anywhere near the danger Doctors pose to their patients...
Blog: Medical errors now the 3rd leading cause of death in the US
A study published in the prominent medical journal BMJ concluded that errors by doctors and hospitals kills more than 250,000 people a year in the US. That's more than strokes, respiratory disease, and Alzheimers.
On purpose gun deaths by blacks and Hispanics .... 30,436On purpose gun deaths....32,000
On purpose medical deaths.....0
Nope......that doesn't matter at all.....normal, law abiding people do not shoot other people...
Britain confiscated their guns.....now only criminals and cops have guns....and their gun murder rate stayed the same...but the gun crime rate did increase last year by 4%....in an island nation....which confiscated civilian guns ....and has extreme gun control for the rich and powerful and their hunting shotguns......
How does their gun crime rate compare to ours?
It was always lower than ours even before they confiscated their guns......they confiscated their guns...and the gun crime rate stayed the same...confiscating guns from people who did not use them to commit crime did not lower the gun crime rate...in fact it went up....then went back to the same level.......
They had a low gun murder rate compared to us long before they confiscated guns.......and our gun murder rate went down as more Americans owned and carried guns....
You mean crime has gone down since the Bill Clinton crime bill.
I've been trying to point that out to him for ages.
And you have yet to acknowledge that gun ownership went up at the same time and gun murder and gun crime went down at he same time...
Making your whole point about guns being a problem silly.......
..........very, very few Americans care about gun control. Do we maybe have a bit of an OCD issue here? Ummmm..........yes, indeed we do!!!
But....but....Obama has been talking gun control for 8 years......and Hillary......one of her top 5 issues.....How does their gun crime rate compare to ours?
It was always lower than ours even before they confiscated their guns......they confiscated their guns...and the gun crime rate stayed the same...confiscating guns from people who did not use them to commit crime did not lower the gun crime rate...in fact it went up....then went back to the same level.......
They had a low gun murder rate compared to us long before they confiscated guns.......and our gun murder rate went down as more Americans owned and carried guns....
You mean crime has gone down since the Bill Clinton crime bill.
I've been trying to point that out to him for ages.
And you have yet to acknowledge that gun ownership went up at the same time and gun murder and gun crime went down at he same time...
Making your whole point about guns being a problem silly.......
Hey dummy.......
You're a emotional hemophiliac nut like all gun control obsessed >>>
Gallup: Only 4% of Americans Think Gun Control is an Important Problem
Record low #'s of Americans favor hand gun ban (Gallup Oct 2011) - Calguns.net
What The Media Isn't Saying About Support For Stronger Gun Laws
But knock yourself out..............
Yes, 265 people were shot by kids under the age of 18 in 2015. Or approximately 5 a week. Some resulted in death . Each one of the guns used by kids passed through the hands of an adult. Gun nuts will go through contortions trying to rationalize why this is okay or not a problem, or 265 shootings is a drop in the bucket compared to the number of kids that hit each other with hammers or drown in buckets.Care to quantify that "many"?
