Americans Buying AK47's Like They Are Going Out Of Style

[Cowman]

Real Americans own AMERICAN weapons.

When you own both, you never worry about ammunition problems.

Why would you have need to bought one if you can just get the gun off the corpses of your attackers, which is what you're talking about.

 

[tjvh]

No one should own them, not even you boys trying to compensate.

Do you have a rational reason why you think no one should own them, or is it just because AK-47's are black and they frighten you?

There is no rational reason why anyone should own such a lethal weapon.

That settles it... Nobody should own a Steak Knife, A hammer, a crowbar, a baseball bat, a frying pan... I asked for a rational reason, and you just couldn't give one, could you.

 

[The Rabbi]

Any .264" bullet. I shoot 140gr Berger VLDs @ 3050fps.
Its a HOT load and I have to pull back .5-.75gr when it is hot out, but it does the job.

A 25-06 will throw a 120 gr at about 3k from the muzzle. And you can buy it off the shelf.
That's what I never understood about cartridges like that. You'll get pretty much the same performance from something that's already standard.

I use mine for LONG range shooting -- 1000yds. .25-06 just won't do.

The 6.5mm family of bullets cannot be beat in terms of long range ballistics, save for the really heavy .308 and .338 pills. Probem with those bullets is that you have to drive them very fast to get full use of that extra BC, which, in terms of rifle, cartridge and powder type/amount used, is difficult.

Again, 338 Lapua or 50bmg. I appreciate the coefficient argument etc. Seems like someone would have to be reeeally dedicated to the 1k shot to go through all the hassle.
On a brighter note, I decided to pick up one of the Century AKMS Polish underfolders I've sold about 3 of recently for myself. Shot very well. Was surprised. A man sized target at 200yards off hand was very doable.

 

[Triton]

I don't care if the U.S. homicide by gun rate is 10 times higher than it is now or about how some socialist european country has low crime and low access to firearms



You collectivist control freaks are not going to EVER be able to disarm myself or the American citizenry.


Leave our 2nd amendment and our guns alone, you are going to lose.

 

[tjvh]

Real Americans own AMERICAN weapons.

When you own both, you never worry about ammunition problems.

Why would you have need to bought one if you can just get the gun off the corpses of your attackers, which is what you're talking about.

Need to bought one? What are you... Twelve? I'm not talking about that at all. Some of you are really twisted and sick individuals.

 

[M14 Shooter]

A 25-06 will throw a 120 gr at about 3k from the muzzle. And you can buy it off the shelf.
That's what I never understood about cartridges like that. You'll get pretty much the same performance from something that's already standard.

I use mine for LONG range shooting -- 1000yds. .25-06 just won't do.

The 6.5mm family of bullets cannot be beat in terms of long range ballistics, save for the really heavy .308 and .338 pills. Probem with those bullets is that you have to drive them very fast to get full use of that extra BC, which, in terms of rifle, cartridge and powder type/amount used, is difficult.

Again, 338 Lapua or 50bmg.

Sure but this falls under the 'you have to work very hard (which translates to 'spend a lot of money')" argument. My 6.5 beats the ballistics of .338L by a good margin, and I spend almost nothing on powder and brass.

I appreciate the coefficient argument etc. Seems like someone would have to be reeeally dedicated to the 1k shot to go through all the hassle.

That's me! My best string is 199/12-x, with 19 of 20 in a cirrcle the size of a pie plate.
Never know when you might need to put a round into a pie hole.. er.. plate, at 1km.

On a brighter note, I decided to pick up one of the Century AKMS Polish underfolders I've sold about 3 of recently for myself. Shot very well. Was surprised. A man sized target at 200yards off hand was very doable.

"Man sized group"
I've decided to stay awy from the AK/SKS line if for no othe reason that I don't want to get involved in another caliber.

 

[The Rabbi]

Yeah, I need one like a hole in the head. But these AKs have come in so nice looking. And the idea of something that will basically be a 30-30 with 75rd drum capacity the size of an M4 just speaks to me.
I dont understand long range shooting like that. Here in TN we're lucky to get 300 yards. But hey, if you love it, do it. While you can.

 

[NoNukes]

Do you have a rational reason why you think no one should own them, or is it just because AK-47's are black and they frighten you?

There is no rational reason why anyone should own such a lethal weapon.

Protection against a tyrannical government.

Why would you live in such a country?

 

[NoNukes]

Do you have a rational reason why you think no one should own them, or is it just because AK-47's are black and they frighten you?

There is no rational reason why anyone should own such a lethal weapon.

Prove it or shut up.

I live in a country where it is difficult to own a gun and most of the police do not carry firearms. It is a pretty safe place to live and raise your children.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

There is no rational reason why anyone should own such a lethal weapon.

Protection against a tyrannical government.

Why would you live in such a country?

What was the specific purpose for the second amendment as to how the founders wanted it used?

OH and yes tyranny can come at the local level as well as the federal level. An d America is on the road to tyranny

http://www.usmessageboard.com/5878041-post1.html

 

[NoNukes]

Protection against a tyrannical government.

Why would you live in such a country?

What was the specific purpose for the second amendment as to how the founders wanted it used?

OH and yes tyranny can come at the local level as well as the federal level. An d America is on the road to tyranny

http://www.usmessageboard.com/5878041-post1.html

Paranoia strikes deep.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Why would you live in such a country?

What was the specific purpose for the second amendment as to how the founders wanted it used?

OH and yes tyranny can come at the local level as well as the federal level. An d America is on the road to tyranny

http://www.usmessageboard.com/5878041-post1.html

Paranoia strikes deep.

Paranoia? how so it happen in 1946 and with this president he's acting like a dictator

 

[Noomi]

The homicide rate in the US is currently around 10 times the rate on most civilised countries....I wonder how high it would have to get before Americans would start to worry.

There have been something like three major mass murders in the US in the past fortnight - I suspect there will be more to come.

Half the country could be murdered by guns tomorrow, and they would still refuse to do anything. Because a shiny new metal gun is way more valuable to them to protecting lives. Didn't you know that? Conservative Americans don't care about human life, but they sure love the weapons that take it!

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The homicide rate in the US is currently around 10 times the rate on most civilised countries....I wonder how high it would have to get before Americans would start to worry.

There have been something like three major mass murders in the US in the past fortnight - I suspect there will be more to come.

Half the country could be murdered by guns tomorrow, and they would still refuse to do anything. Because a shiny new metal gun is way more valuable to them to protecting lives. Didn't you know that? Conservative Americans don't care about human life, but they sure love the weapons that take it!

You two protest way too much it's like you're jealous because you are allowed to carry firearms with you.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The homicide rate in the US is currently around 10 times the rate on most civilised countries....I wonder how high it would have to get before Americans would start to worry.

There have been something like three major mass murders in the US in the past fortnight - I suspect there will be more to come.

Half the country could be murdered by guns tomorrow, and they would still refuse to do anything. Because a shiny new metal gun is way more valuable to them to protecting lives. Didn't you know that? Conservative Americans don't care about human life, but they sure love the weapons that take it!

Ya cause homicides are not actually going down including since the ban on "assault weapons " went away. Further almost all homicides are not done with an "assault rifle". Nothing like facts to get in your paranoid way ehh?

 

[JimBowie1958]

The homicide rate in the US is currently around 10 times the rate on most civilised countries....I wonder how high it would have to get before Americans would start to worry.

There have been something like three major mass murders in the US in the past fortnight - I suspect there will be more to come.

Half the country could be murdered by guns tomorrow, and they would still refuse to do anything. Because a shiny new metal gun is way more valuable to them to protecting lives. Didn't you know that? Conservative Americans don't care about human life, but they sure love the weapons that take it!

You are not familiar with the facts, apparently.

Quick Gun Facts

Though there is no way to directly count how many lives are saved via criminal acts that are warded off by the posession of a gun, based on surveys done with violent prisoners, muggers, robbers, etc regarding how many times they avoided a crime versus carried it out, it is estimated that more than 2 MILLION crimes are averted each year by guns being in the posession of the intended target. Kleck estimates more than 2.5 MILLION crimes are averted each year based on surveys of non Law Enforcement civilians. Studies show that when guns are allowed more access by law abiding citizens with no criminal record, within the first year murder rates drop by 8% on average.

No, guns SAVE innocent lives.

Two thirds of people killed each year with guns are criminals killing other criminals.

And guns cause far fewer injuries than cars do each year from accidents, and only about 1% of all guns will EVER be used in a crime according to the FBI. So guns in and of themselves are not so dangerous since no one is apparently trying to get cars banned. And the vast majority of crime is not committed using a gun anyway, so whats the point of taking away guns?

To disarm the public. That is the point and put us in the same position in this country as the Jews were in in Nazi Germany or the Kulaks in Soviet Russia or the Armenians in Turkey EVERY ONE OF WHOM LOST ALL ACCESS TO GUNS BEFORE THE STATE IMPLEMENTED GENOCIDES STARTED.

No, gun owners love human life. Innocent human life. I dont think most of us give a fig about criminals though. Thats for the bleeding heart libtards to cry over. But to say we dont care about lives is just 100% pure grade horse shit.

 

[JimBowie1958]

The homicide rate in the US is currently around 10 times the rate on most civilised countries....I wonder how high it would have to get before Americans would start to worry.

There have been something like three major mass murders in the US in the past fortnight - I suspect there will be more to come.

Half the country could be murdered by guns tomorrow, and they would still refuse to do anything. Because a shiny new metal gun is way more valuable to them to protecting lives. Didn't you know that? Conservative Americans don't care about human life, but they sure love the weapons that take it!

Ya cause homicides are not actually going down including since the ban on "assault weapons " went away. Further almost all homicides are not done with an "assault rifle". Nothing like facts to get in your paranoid way ehh?

She gets her facts from all the drive by shootings she sees on cimre shows and movies.

Using an assault weapon in a crime is about the stupidest choice one can make other than deciding to do the crime itself. It is slow, almost entirely unconcealable, and when fired from the hip like they show in the movie drive bys far less acurate than a handgun.

Just more gun grabber lying bullshit.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Why would you live in such a country?

What was the specific purpose for the second amendment as to how the founders wanted it used?

OH and yes tyranny can come at the local level as well as the federal level. An d America is on the road to tyranny

http://www.usmessageboard.com/5878041-post1.html

Paranoia strikes deep.

Dude, read some fucking 20th century history sometime, OK? Then run your pie hole.

 

[The Rabbi]

The homicide rate in the US is currently around 10 times the rate on most civilised countries....I wonder how high it would have to get before Americans would start to worry.

There have been something like three major mass murders in the US in the past fortnight - I suspect there will be more to come.

Half the country could be murdered by guns tomorrow, and they would still refuse to do anything. Because a shiny new metal gun is way more valuable to them to protecting lives. Didn't you know that? Conservative Americans don't care about human life, but they sure love the weapons that take it!

Actually no one has ever been murdered by a gun. I've maintained a number of them around the house for close to 30 years and not one has ever taken a mind to kill someone.

 

[NoNukes]

What was the specific purpose for the second amendment as to how the founders wanted it used?

OH and yes tyranny can come at the local level as well as the federal level. An d America is on the road to tyranny

http://www.usmessageboard.com/5878041-post1.html

Paranoia strikes deep.

Dude, read some fucking 20th century history sometime, OK? Then run your pie hole.

I am an American Indian, and I do not arm myself because of history.