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Trump doesn't have two brain cells to scratch together when it comes to policy. He kept asking people around him "is this bill any good?" because he doesn't have a clue. Ryan is made out to be the Serious Man for the Republicans - why wouldn't he trust him?The inability of Republicans to EVER agree on healthcare took him downTrump told America he had a plan much better than Obamacare. cheaper, better coverageRyan said the GOP had been the opposition party for the last 10 years. Saying it was easy, because all they had to do was to say no. Now that they're expected to govern they realize how hard it is.
Ryan finally admitted what we've been saying for years.
Ryan betrayed Trump.
Why did he need Ryan's plan?
You're free to come up with your own hypothesis. But Ryan took him down.
No. For whatever reason Trump trusted Ryan.
LOLTrump said he had a "beautiful" plan. He said you would love it.It was a GOP plan..............He would have signed it had it come to his desk.......Less people would be insured.He pushed a plan that the GOP came up with.............the plan wasn't all bad.......So you got caught with a mouthful of bullshit.So the Fk what.......
Trump lied to you, and you just sit there and take it.
But wasn't the plan everyone could agree on.................Reset and negotiate and go again............That is possible and doable unless they are all like the ones posting here...................Who put country first over the usual BS>
Premiums would rise by 20 percent.
That's not a plan. That's a total disaster. And that is why REAL conservatives like Ted Cruz could not support it.
Trump told the rube herd he had a plan. He lied. He had nothing. He was going to steal credit for the Ryan plan, and he's been caught holding his dick in his hand.
And you rubes just sit there and stroke it for him.
I gave up long ago on you dumb fucks ever waking up.
Was it his personal plan..............Nope..............Was Obamacare his personal plan............Nope..............
Most presidents don't right their on dang plan.........Never have............they ask for changes and push their party to pass laws for them to sign..........
Tell me the President who wrote his on dang plan.................waiting.
Where is it, Chump?
He never had one. And just look at you, lying face down and taking it up the ass from a New York huckster.
Ask Hillary that question LOLI thought all the Democrat protests, townhall meetings, etc., etc.,
were useless? How many thousand times on this forum were we told that?
Yeah, I saw that presser of Ryan's today. He admitted what I have been telling the tards for years. Any dumb shit can attack the other guy's plan, but it takes intelligence and courage to put a better plan on the table and defend it.
Politics on a political forum? How awful!Partisan politics as usual here.............which is why I hardly ever post here.
Conservatives didn't agree with the plan...............stood their ground..............Yeah, I saw that presser of Ryan's today. He admitted what I have been telling the tards for years. Any dumb shit can attack the other guy's plan, but it takes intelligence and courage to put a better plan on the table and defend it.
Exactly, which is why I am not going to let the Trump supporters here throw Ryan under the bus to cover Donald Trump.
Partisan politics versus politics are a different breed.................Politics on a political forum? How awful!Partisan politics as usual here.............which is why I hardly ever post here.
Maybe the Barbie forum is more your speed.
Conservatives didn't agree with the plan...............stood their ground..............
If that is throwing Ryan under the bus then so be it...............
There was no vote TardLOLThe Democrats won BiglyThe Democrats fucked up real bad today and they are not smart enough to know it.
The RINO plan maintained substantial government interference in health care just like the Democrats love so much but it fixed several of the things that were going to cause the Obmacare plan to implode, which it now will do.
Democrats should have sided with the RINOs. The RINO plan was what the Democrats should have passed in 2009 if they had bothered to read what they voted on.
Trump is smart letting it fail. He will take the little hit on not doing right away what he said he would do with repeal but he will be the Savior when it fails. Meanwhile the stupid Democrats will take all the blame.
They did not even have to cast a vote
They all voted No............didn't cast a vote.......You crack me up.
DoublespeakRand Paul takes victory lap on GOP health bill
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) quickly declared victory on Friday, praising conservatives for "standing up against ObamaCare Lite."
“I applaud House conservatives for keeping their word to the American people,” Paul said in a statement.
Republican leaders pulled their bill to repeal and replace ObamaCare on Friday afternoon, acknowledging that it was headed toward defeat.
Paul — who has been a top antagonist of the House bill — added that "I look forward to passing full repeal of ObamaCare in the very near future.”
Paul and other House conservatives have offered an alternative repeal bill that mirrors 2015 legislation cleared by Congress but vetoed by then-President Barack Obama.
The bill would effectively separate repeal and replace into two separate pieces of legislation, a move that would likely draw pushback from a coalition of moderate lawmakers.
GOP lawmakers haven't signaled that they are preparing to take up another healthcare bill, instead telling reporters that they didn't have a plan B.
He endorsed it..........so part of it lands on him as well......................Of course.........Conservatives didn't agree with the plan...............stood their ground..............
If that is throwing Ryan under the bus then so be it...............
Donald Trump endorsed the bill, and the buck stops at the top. Attack Paul Ryan all you want, but you better hold Donald accountable as well.
To defeat a bill that would not have fixed Obamacare is a Victory...........Correct.............DoublespeakRand Paul takes victory lap on GOP health bill
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) quickly declared victory on Friday, praising conservatives for "standing up against ObamaCare Lite."
“I applaud House conservatives for keeping their word to the American people,” Paul said in a statement.
Republican leaders pulled their bill to repeal and replace ObamaCare on Friday afternoon, acknowledging that it was headed toward defeat.
Paul — who has been a top antagonist of the House bill — added that "I look forward to passing full repeal of ObamaCare in the very near future.”
Paul and other House conservatives have offered an alternative repeal bill that mirrors 2015 legislation cleared by Congress but vetoed by then-President Barack Obama.
The bill would effectively separate repeal and replace into two separate pieces of legislation, a move that would likely draw pushback from a coalition of moderate lawmakers.
GOP lawmakers haven't signaled that they are preparing to take up another healthcare bill, instead telling reporters that they didn't have a plan B.
Defeat= Victory
Well you win that round.............so be it..............I was wrong on that.......There was no vote TardLOLThe Democrats won BiglyThe Democrats fucked up real bad today and they are not smart enough to know it.
The RINO plan maintained substantial government interference in health care just like the Democrats love so much but it fixed several of the things that were going to cause the Obmacare plan to implode, which it now will do.
Democrats should have sided with the RINOs. The RINO plan was what the Democrats should have passed in 2009 if they had bothered to read what they voted on.
Trump is smart letting it fail. He will take the little hit on not doing right away what he said he would do with repeal but he will be the Savior when it fails. Meanwhile the stupid Democrats will take all the blame.
They did not even have to cast a vote
They all voted No............didn't cast a vote.......You crack me up.
Translation "You got me there "Link? LMAO, honey if you never heard him say all of that repeatedly I can't help you.
(smile) You run with that kid. I am very comfortable with yours and her ignorance.
hey, dum dum.. i was asking for a link to where i ever said what you claimed.
