IsaacNewton
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You are right, I don't understand.You don't understand that science is in fact 'standing firm on evidence, and if the evidence isn't there it isn't proven'...
>>However, that doesn't mean you fill the gap by saying MY god did it. Every single person who has their own version of god makes the same claim.<<
Except every single person who has their own version of god does not have nearly the same degree of empirical evidence, historical record, and supportive reasoning for their god as that which exists for Judeo-Christianity.
>>Children believe in magic, adults are supposed to deal with reality. But some have a hard time facing reality so they remain, in their heads, children who need magic to be real because reality is too scary.<<
Yes some choose to remain children as you say….
Still others choose to remain blind as they, too, have a hard time accepting realities or untenable matters that go against their preferred outcomes. IOW, I wouldn’t act so smug. There are thousands of scientists with no axe to grind who doubt many of your published “facts” in text books, et al. Many signed on to public lists of refutation. If you say most are God believers that is why they reject evolution that would not make sense because God surely could have created the world via an evolutionary process. It is those, like Dawkins, who are adamant there is no evidence for Intelligent Design. And you call that science? Here is Dawkins in his book The Blind Watchmaker --- Evolutionist high priest Richard Dawkins says in his book - - - "Natural selection is the blind watchmaker, blind because it does not see ahead, does not plan consequences, has no purpose in view. Yet the living results of natural selection overwhelmingly impress us with the appearance of design as if by a master watchmaker, impress us with the illusion of design and planning.”
“the illusion of design.” --- so convincing, so scientific!
>>Scientists aren't afraid of the answer either way.<<
Enough with the canonizations. Science almost always cowers away when asked “does your findings not suggest a supreme being?” they will retort “we are not in the business of proving God.”
Well that may be true, but they sure appear to be diligently in the business of trying to disprove God.
"Except every single person who has their own version of god does not have nearly the same degree of empirical evidence, historical record, and supportive reasoning for their god as that which exists for Judeo-Christianity."
Every religion makes the same claim, sorry.
Believe in magic if that makes you feel good, many people need to and as long as you and they keep that in your church and your house and don't force anyone else to believe as you do no problem. I live in reality. It would be great if there were an invisible flying grandpa in the sky. Where's the evidence?
There have been, in human history, around 40,000 deities that people have worshipped. Right now on Earth there are maybe 4,000 that people worship.
You are an atheist regarding 3,999 of those. I am an agnostic regarding all 4,000. You just believe in one more god than I do.
And there is no proof of any of them. Human beings have needed 'gods' for the last 10,000 years to try to explain and control all the things in nature that were killing them. Drought, famine, lightning, floods, fires, volcanoes. They didn't understand these things.
We do. There are no gods, there is physics and chemistry. You have proof to the contrary, other than a 'book' someone wrote 2,000 years ago before humanity knew what caused all those things, I'm all ears.
I have no problem if a 'god' were found. Reality is to be accepted as is. But so far no evidence and belief in 'gods' by humans has always been as children believe in Santa because they don't know any better.
We know better, that's all.