"Black lives matter"

[WelfareQueen]

If black lives matter (and they do) those that are taken by other blacks should mean just as much as those taken by cops.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

If black lives matter (and they do) those that are taken by other blacks should mean just as much as those taken by cops.

Should mean more. But it never will. Because one would have to look at the causes of such high murder rates, and that certainly does not fit the narrative of the race baiters and apologist.

 

[Asclepias]

If black lives matter (and they do) those that are taken by other blacks should mean just as much as those taken by cops.

Who told you that they dont? The issue with cops taking lives is that they are sworn to protect and serve not harass and kill. You cant protest and hope criminals stop killing people. You can protest in the hopes that something is done about the cops.

 

[WelfareQueen]

If black lives matter (and they do) those that are taken by other blacks should mean just as much as those taken by cops.

Who told you that they dont? The issue with cops taking lives is that they are sworn to protect and serve not harass and kill. You cant protest and hope criminals stop killing people. You can protest in the hopes that something is done about the cops.

There are legitimate grievances about the criminal justice system...no question. The death of the man in NYC was ridiculous. Never should have happened.

 

[ricechickie]

I don't excuse inexcusable behavior. If Michael Brown was guilty of petty larceny, he should have faced justice. But the sentence for petty larceny, or disobeying a police officer's vulgar demand is NOT execution.

WHY do YOU defend inexcusable behavior? Because it is carried out by a "person of authority", who is merely a government agent?

Petty larceny ? Did you conveniently forget the behavior that resulted in his death ?Another perfect example of liberal denial.

There is nothing Brown did that should have resulted in his death. Officer Wilson bungled the confrontation. He should have moved away and waited for backup. But "Wyatt Earp" Wilson was an execution waiting to happen because he refused to carry and use non-lethal weapons (a tazer was too cumbersome for her to handle and pepper spray might get in her wittle eyes).

You mean the confrontation where the gentle bully hit an officer ? Is that acceptable behavior?

If you think all unacceptable behavior deserves death, then that's your problem.

Normal people don't shoot everyone who engages in unacceptable behavior. It's called a proportionate response.

maybe the next time YOU and the Bfgrn can be there to STOP it all. him robbing a store and the police being called onto the scene...please so we don't have to Listen to your alls whining anymore

Talk about disproportionate responses. You are the queen of them.

The world according to Stephanie is to either be omnipresent or shut the fuck up about it.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

If black lives matter (and they do) those that are taken by other blacks should mean just as much as those taken by cops.

Who told you that they dont? The issue with cops taking lives is that they are sworn to protect and serve not harass and kill. You cant protest and hope criminals stop killing people. You can protes in the hopes that something is done about the cops.

That is assuming their is a problem to fix. Is there?
You are assuming that isolated cases represents the whole. Should it?
Of the police shootings, is anyone removing the obvious "good shootings" - where there is no doubt the officer had no choice? No they are not. They list the overall statistic and try to spin it as it is all unjustifiable homicide.
On the other hand, black on black murder is overwhelmingly caused by criminal intent. But again, identifying and discussing that does not fit the narrative of the baiters and apologist.

 

[ricechickie]

If black lives matter (and they do) those that are taken by other blacks should mean just as much as those taken by cops.

Sure. And we shouldn't feed our own kids until there are no more starving Africans.

This is such a straw man. And it has been addressed. There are going to be those who don't care about wasted lives, no matter what the race. We don't expect police officers to be among them.

 

[dilloduck]

If black lives matter (and they do) those that are taken by other blacks should mean just as much as those taken by cops.

Sure. And we shouldn't feed our own kids until there are no more starving Africans.

This is such a straw man. And it has been addressed. There are going to be those who don't care about wasted lives, no matter what the race. We don't expect police officers to be among them.

Claiming that police officers don't care about black lives is another liberal lie.

 

[Asclepias]

If black lives matter (and they do) those that are taken by other blacks should mean just as much as those taken by cops.

Who told you that they dont? The issue with cops taking lives is that they are sworn to protect and serve not harass and kill. You cant protest and hope criminals stop killing people. You can protes in the hopes that something is done about the cops.

That is assuming their is a problem to fix. Is there?
You are assuming that isolated cases represents the whole. Should it?
Of the police shootings, is anyone removing the obvious "good shootings" - where there is no doubt the officer had no choice? No they are not. They list the overall statistic and try to spin it as it is all unjustifiable homicide.
On the other hand, black on black murder is overwhelmingly caused by criminal intent. But again, identifying and discussing that does not fit the narrative of the baiters and apologist.

Yes there is a problem. Your disagreement doesnt change that. Yes the good shootings are removed. Who told you they werent? Your last statement is another ignorant assumption. Black on Black murder is an issue we are concerned with. White people need to be concerned with their white on white murder and crime problems instead of having a fainting spell over Black issues.

 

[dilloduck]

If black lives matter (and they do) those that are taken by other blacks should mean just as much as those taken by cops.

Who told you that they dont? The issue with cops taking lives is that they are sworn to protect and serve not harass and kill. You cant protest and hope criminals stop killing people. You can protes in the hopes that something is done about the cops.

That is assuming their is a problem to fix. Is there?
You are assuming that isolated cases represents the whole. Should it?
Of the police shootings, is anyone removing the obvious "good shootings" - where there is no doubt the officer had no choice? No they are not. They list the overall statistic and try to spin it as it is all unjustifiable homicide.
On the other hand, black on black murder is overwhelmingly caused by criminal intent. But again, identifying and discussing that does not fit the narrative of the baiters and apologist.

Yes there is a problem. Your disagreement doesnt change that. Yes the good shootings are removed. Who told you they werent? Your last statement is another ignorant assumption. Black on Black murder is an issue we are concerned with. White people need to be concerned with their white on white murder and crime problems instead of having a fainting spell over Black issues.

Blacks take care of black problems and whites take care of white problems ? How segregationist of you.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

If black lives matter (and they do) those that are taken by other blacks should mean just as much as those taken by cops.

Who told you that they dont? The issue with cops taking lives is that they are sworn to protect and serve not harass and kill. You cant protest and hope criminals stop killing people. You can protes in the hopes that something is done about the cops.

That is assuming their is a problem to fix. Is there?
You are assuming that isolated cases represents the whole. Should it?
Of the police shootings, is anyone removing the obvious "good shootings" - where there is no doubt the officer had no choice? No they are not. They list the overall statistic and try to spin it as it is all unjustifiable homicide.
On the other hand, black on black murder is overwhelmingly caused by criminal intent. But again, identifying and discussing that does not fit the narrative of the baiters and apologist.

Yes there is a problem. Your disagreement doesnt change that. Yes the good shootings are removed. Who told you they werent? Your last statement is another ignorant assumption. Black on Black murder is an issue we are concerned with. White people need to be concerned with their white on white murder and crime problems instead of having a fainting spell over Black issues.

"Yes their is a problem"
In the Brown/Wilson case. What happened? What caused the death of Brown?
Who caused it to happen? Where does the fault lie?

On one side, Wilson is driving his car. If he would have taken a right instead of a left somewhere, or vice-versa. It would not have happened. So is the fault Wilsons for driving on this road? Is that why it happened? Of course not. The fact is if Wilson would have not been on that street, statistically speaking, it is highly likely he would have finished his career without having ever fired a shot in the line of duty.
On the other side we have Brown. Walking down a center of the street after having just robbed a liquor store. Peculiar behavior to say the least. He had to have imagined that the owner of the store called the police. Even when Wislon approached, the two still walked in the middle of the road. According to multiple witnesses, Wilson called out to them, still in the car, to get out of the road. THEY REFUSED. Why??
The rest of the story is debatable, and all happened in a mere moment of time.
But what lead up to Brown's death? What created the situation?
The answer to that is easy. Brown is a defiant thug who is so full of himself that even after robbing a store clerk by force he refuses to obey a police officer who obviously did not know he just commited a crime. Instead of having the common sense to be relieved that he isn't about to go to jail and GLADLY get out of the road - he acts like a jackass imbecile and remains defiant.
Brown created his fate.

 

[Asclepias]

If black lives matter (and they do) those that are taken by other blacks should mean just as much as those taken by cops.

Who told you that they dont? The issue with cops taking lives is that they are sworn to protect and serve not harass and kill. You cant protest and hope criminals stop killing people. You can protes in the hopes that something is done about the cops.

That is assuming their is a problem to fix. Is there?
You are assuming that isolated cases represents the whole. Should it?
Of the police shootings, is anyone removing the obvious "good shootings" - where there is no doubt the officer had no choice? No they are not. They list the overall statistic and try to spin it as it is all unjustifiable homicide.
On the other hand, black on black murder is overwhelmingly caused by criminal intent. But again, identifying and discussing that does not fit the narrative of the baiters and apologist.

Yes there is a problem. Your disagreement doesnt change that. Yes the good shootings are removed. Who told you they werent? Your last statement is another ignorant assumption. Black on Black murder is an issue we are concerned with. White people need to be concerned with their white on white murder and crime problems instead of having a fainting spell over Black issues.

"Yes their is a problem"
In the Brown/Wilson case. What happened? What caused the death of Brown?
Who caused it to happen? Where does the fault lie?

On one side, Wilson is driving his car. If he would have taken a right instead of a left somewhere, or vice-versa. It would not have happened. So is the fault Wilsons for driving on this road? Is that why it happened? Of course not. The fact is if Wilson would have not been on that street, statistically speaking, it is highly likely he would have finished his career without having ever fired a shot in the line of duty.
On the other side we have Brown. Walking down a center of the street after having just robbed a liquor store. Peculiar behavior to say the least. He had to have imagined that the owner of the store called the police. Even when Wislon approached, the two still walked in the middle of the road. According to multiple witnesses, Wilson called out to them, still in the car, to get out of the road. THEY REFUSED. Why??
The rest of the story is debatable, and all happened in a mere moment of time.
But what lead up to Brown's death? What created the situation?
The answer to that is easy. Brown is a defiant thug who is so full of himself that even after robbing a store clerk by force he refuses to obey a police officer who obviously did not know he just commited a crime. Instead of having the common sense to be relieved that he isn't about to go to jail and GLADLY get out of the road - he acts like a jackass imbecile and remains defiant.
Brown created his fate.

Your first sentence is confusing. You used "their" incorrectly and quoted it. What was that for?

You appear to be all over the place. A few points. The store owner never called in to report the alleged robbery. I'm glad you can admit the behavior was peculiar. In fact its downright unbelievable to say someone that just robbed a store would not only be walking down the middle fo the street, but also draw attention to himself when told to get out of the street. What is even more unbelievable is that Wilson instead of just getting out of his car actually backed up and pinned himself in the car by stopping right next to Brown. I'm pretty sure I know how it went down. It all came down to the fact that Wilson was angry Brown resisted his attempts to intimidate him. For that he killed Brown and got away with it.

 

[ricechickie]

If black lives matter (and they do) those that are taken by other blacks should mean just as much as those taken by cops.

Sure. And we shouldn't feed our own kids until there are no more starving Africans.

This is such a straw man. And it has been addressed. There are going to be those who don't care about wasted lives, no matter what the race. We don't expect police officers to be among them.

Claiming that police officers don't care about black lives is another liberal lie.

So, if you see a police officer who doesn't care about all lives, you'll join in the protests to have him or her removed?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

If black lives matter (and they do) those that are taken by other blacks should mean just as much as those taken by cops.

Who told you that they dont? The issue with cops taking lives is that they are sworn to protect and serve not harass and kill. You cant protest and hope criminals stop killing people. You can protes in the hopes that something is done about the cops.

That is assuming their is a problem to fix. Is there?
You are assuming that isolated cases represents the whole. Should it?
Of the police shootings, is anyone removing the obvious "good shootings" - where there is no doubt the officer had no choice? No they are not. They list the overall statistic and try to spin it as it is all unjustifiable homicide.
On the other hand, black on black murder is overwhelmingly caused by criminal intent. But again, identifying and discussing that does not fit the narrative of the baiters and apologist.

Yes there is a problem. Your disagreement doesnt change that. Yes the good shootings are removed. Who told you they werent? Your last statement is another ignorant assumption. Black on Black murder is an issue we are concerned with. White people need to be concerned with their white on white murder and crime problems instead of having a fainting spell over Black issues.

"Yes their is a problem"
In the Brown/Wilson case. What happened? What caused the death of Brown?
Who caused it to happen? Where does the fault lie?

On one side, Wilson is driving his car. If he would have taken a right instead of a left somewhere, or vice-versa. It would not have happened. So is the fault Wilsons for driving on this road? Is that why it happened? Of course not. The fact is if Wilson would have not been on that street, statistically speaking, it is highly likely he would have finished his career without having ever fired a shot in the line of duty.
On the other side we have Brown. Walking down a center of the street after having just robbed a liquor store. Peculiar behavior to say the least. He had to have imagined that the owner of the store called the police. Even when Wislon approached, the two still walked in the middle of the road. According to multiple witnesses, Wilson called out to them, still in the car, to get out of the road. THEY REFUSED. Why??
The rest of the story is debatable, and all happened in a mere moment of time.
But what lead up to Brown's death? What created the situation?
The answer to that is easy. Brown is a defiant thug who is so full of himself that even after robbing a store clerk by force he refuses to obey a police officer who obviously did not know he just commited a crime. Instead of having the common sense to be relieved that he isn't about to go to jail and GLADLY get out of the road - he acts like a jackass imbecile and remains defiant.
Brown created his fate.

Your first sentence is confusing. You used "their" incorrectly and quoted it. What was that for?

You appear to be all over the place. A few points. The store owner never called in to report the alleged robbery. I'm glad you can admit the behavior was peculiar. In fact its downright unbelievable to say someone that just robbed a store would not only be walking down the middle fo the street, but also draw attention to himself when told to get out of the street. What is even more unbelievable is that Wilson instead of just getting out of his car actually backed up and pinned himself in the car by stopping right next to Brown. I'm pretty sure I know how it went down. It all came down to the fact that Wilson was angry Brown resisted his attempts to intimidate him. For that he killed Brown and got away with it.

Didn't realize you were an actual race baiter.
I commonly misspell "there" as their. It is an old habit that a lot of folks have.
As for the rest of your post...garbage and nonsense.
Noted for future reference you are not worth posting to.

 

[Asclepias]

Who told you that they dont? The issue with cops taking lives is that they are sworn to protect and serve not harass and kill. You cant protest and hope criminals stop killing people. You can protes in the hopes that something is done about the cops.

That is assuming their is a problem to fix. Is there?
You are assuming that isolated cases represents the whole. Should it?
Of the police shootings, is anyone removing the obvious "good shootings" - where there is no doubt the officer had no choice? No they are not. They list the overall statistic and try to spin it as it is all unjustifiable homicide.
On the other hand, black on black murder is overwhelmingly caused by criminal intent. But again, identifying and discussing that does not fit the narrative of the baiters and apologist.

Yes there is a problem. Your disagreement doesnt change that. Yes the good shootings are removed. Who told you they werent? Your last statement is another ignorant assumption. Black on Black murder is an issue we are concerned with. White people need to be concerned with their white on white murder and crime problems instead of having a fainting spell over Black issues.

"Yes their is a problem"
In the Brown/Wilson case. What happened? What caused the death of Brown?
Who caused it to happen? Where does the fault lie?

On one side, Wilson is driving his car. If he would have taken a right instead of a left somewhere, or vice-versa. It would not have happened. So is the fault Wilsons for driving on this road? Is that why it happened? Of course not. The fact is if Wilson would have not been on that street, statistically speaking, it is highly likely he would have finished his career without having ever fired a shot in the line of duty.
On the other side we have Brown. Walking down a center of the street after having just robbed a liquor store. Peculiar behavior to say the least. He had to have imagined that the owner of the store called the police. Even when Wislon approached, the two still walked in the middle of the road. According to multiple witnesses, Wilson called out to them, still in the car, to get out of the road. THEY REFUSED. Why??
The rest of the story is debatable, and all happened in a mere moment of time.
But what lead up to Brown's death? What created the situation?
The answer to that is easy. Brown is a defiant thug who is so full of himself that even after robbing a store clerk by force he refuses to obey a police officer who obviously did not know he just commited a crime. Instead of having the common sense to be relieved that he isn't about to go to jail and GLADLY get out of the road - he acts like a jackass imbecile and remains defiant.
Brown created his fate.

Your first sentence is confusing. You used "their" incorrectly and quoted it. What was that for?

You appear to be all over the place. A few points. The store owner never called in to report the alleged robbery. I'm glad you can admit the behavior was peculiar. In fact its downright unbelievable to say someone that just robbed a store would not only be walking down the middle fo the street, but also draw attention to himself when told to get out of the street. What is even more unbelievable is that Wilson instead of just getting out of his car actually backed up and pinned himself in the car by stopping right next to Brown. I'm pretty sure I know how it went down. It all came down to the fact that Wilson was angry Brown resisted his attempts to intimidate him. For that he killed Brown and got away with it.

Didn't realize you were an actual race baiter.
I commonly misspell "there" as their. It is an old habit that a lot of folks have.
As for the rest of your post...garbage and nonsense.
Noted for future reference you are not worth posting to.

i didnt realize you were clueless. I dont care that you mispelled the word. I am wondering why you used it erroneously and quoted it. What was the point?

I think I am going to pass out and die because you wont post to me anymore.....no seriously.

 

[the_human_being]

What did you do? Were you born into the right family? Did you marry the right man?

Born to a lower middle class family (bordered on poor)

Unmarried (never have been as a matter of convenience, have been too busy or lack of decent prospects)

Seven years in the Army straight out of High School (GI Bill so I could pay my own way to college)

Bachelors of Science - Psychology (Ended up actually hating most of that sissy bullshit about half way through my Masters)

Quality Technician and then Quality Auditor (worked for a trademarking agency while in college and a year or so after that)

Business Owner (opened and built up a Quality Consulting business over 5 years ... Then sold it including all intellectual materials, property, equipment, clients and contacts)

Business Owner (took the capital I earned from the sale and have opened two completely unrelated businesses)

But ...

I don't suppose that is the answer you were hoping for ... And there is no way I can describe to others the sacrifices necessary to do those things. I went years without having a personal life to speak of ... And that is not suitable for everyone I don't guess.

Perhaps people who cannot do what it is required to succeed ... Should consider which Sugar-Daddy they should vote for. All I can say is that they are part of the problem.

.

his question is the snob of a liberal who votes for Democrats. Yet they vote for a party that enslaves PEOPLE to be beholding on government via TAXPAYERS. Instead of lifting them up as trying to get on their own two feet.

prime example

the life of Julia

We see the value of government. Fools like you don't realize that's your government and without it Blacksand would only pay you $3 a day.

The middle class exited because of liberal policies, not unregulated free markets.

You have a good life? Thank a liberal.

oh please, You are brainwashed and only a parrot....
I made it ON MY OWN for 60 years. Neither you or any liberal polices has a hand in any of it except FORCING more taxes on us and forcing us to pay for lazy bums who don't want to work

AMEN. I hear you. Some of us had no choice but to succeed. Failure was not an option.

 

[the_human_being]

It says that you are scared. I mean what does it say about insects when women are afraid of them?

Cool story, I cant believe you survived an encounter with a black guy.

Of course he says that...before then whites rioted over and over and over in black communities and they never retaliated. Then all of a sudden when they defend themselves they are considered "disrespectful". How dare you strike BACK? Where is your respect for me beating your ass for hundreds of years huh?

So, here is where you confirm that you dont believe there is any problem with black Americans or Crime or Detroit. This is where you are making a case for why all black people are fuck ups, right? But but you're not a racist...I mean, just because thinking another race is inferior is the definition of racist doesnt mean you are.

If I go to a Detroit Public School, I think maybe 25% of the kids can speak proper English. Stop that.

Single black women, stop having so many babies.

Black men, if you have a child raise it right.

I'm sorry, and what is the excuse for white violence since they have their shit together? They just like it?

Now, let us look at your post.

When was the last time you encountered a public school graduate, black or white, that could speak coherently in correct English?

When was the last time you went to Wal Mart, or something like it, and DID NOT see single, pregnant or child toting white girl, usually accompanied by a grandmother doing the parenting for all of them?

And with all the young white bucks out here with baby mommas scattered all over the woods, it will not be long before we achieve bastard parity between blacks and whites.

So, what's the point, the whole country is being reduced to some lowest common denominator.

We are past singling out one race for the bastardization of America, or the ignorance of our grandchildren.

We are? What happened between this post and the last that suddenly made you stop singling out one race?

Nothing happened, I have always been an equal opportunity hater of the sorry and shiftless of any race, creed, color, or perversion.

Road Runner that wasnt a "major riot" that was a RACE riot. Killing people and burning shit down in the black areas

My point is it was almost 100 years ago.

What does that have to do with his point?[/QUOTE]

I too believe in being fair. I despise ALL Blacks equally. I'm equal opportunity too.

 

[dilloduck]

If black lives matter (and they do) those that are taken by other blacks should mean just as much as those taken by cops.

Sure. And we shouldn't feed our own kids until there are no more starving Africans.

This is such a straw man. And it has been addressed. There are going to be those who don't care about wasted lives, no matter what the race. We don't expect police officers to be among them.

Claiming that police officers don't care about black lives is another liberal lie.

So, if you see a police officer who doesn't care about all lives, you'll join in the protests to have him or her removed?

Violent protests to condemn violence are counter productive.

 

[ricechickie]

If black lives matter (and they do) those that are taken by other blacks should mean just as much as those taken by cops.

Sure. And we shouldn't feed our own kids until there are no more starving Africans.

This is such a straw man. And it has been addressed. There are going to be those who don't care about wasted lives, no matter what the race. We don't expect police officers to be among them.

Claiming that police officers don't care about black lives is another liberal lie.

So, if you see a police officer who doesn't care about all lives, you'll join in the protests to have him or her removed?

Violent protests to condemn violence are counter productive.

I didn't ask you to violently protest. There are plenty of peaceful protests, nationwide.

 

[the_human_being]

If black lives matter (and they do) those that are taken by other blacks should mean just as much as those taken by cops.

Sure. And we shouldn't feed our own kids until there are no more starving Africans.

This is such a straw man. And it has been addressed. There are going to be those who don't care about wasted lives, no matter what the race. We don't expect police officers to be among them.

Claiming that police officers don't care about black lives is another liberal lie.

So, if you see a police officer who doesn't care about all lives, you'll join in the protests to have him or her removed?

Violent protests to condemn violence are counter productive.

I didn't ask you to violently protest. There are plenty of peaceful protests, nationwide.

Get a job and you won't have time to stay up all night and protest.