Black republicans...who are they really?

[Disir]

And that's ok. I don't give a damn who people vote for. But what can't happen is to continue to pretend the Democrats are not engaged in most of the same policies that are detrimental.

Democrats aren't as racist or as stupid as republicans .. and both are why republicans find themselves in the dire and desperate shape they're in today.

And the policies?

Democratic policies are FAR more palatable for African-Americans then republican policies .. OBVIOUSLY.

AND, democrats elect African-Americans .. republicans do not.

Noy sure why anyone would expect blacks to vote for people who hate us .. and who we hate.

That hate-hate relationship is working just fine .. for us.

Which policies? What legislation?

VOTING .. which republicans would cut off for black Americans if they could.

Health care, Social Security, Affirmative action, economic policy, guns, etc, etc

In fact, I can't think of a single thing republicans stand for that blacks should support.

Tell me about the economic policies, the Social Security policies and the health care policies.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Democrats aren't as racist or as stupid as republicans .. and both are why republicans find themselves in the dire and desperate shape they're in today.

And the policies?

Democratic policies are FAR more palatable for African-Americans then republican policies .. OBVIOUSLY.

AND, democrats elect African-Americans .. republicans do not.

Noy sure why anyone would expect blacks to vote for people who hate us .. and who we hate.

That hate-hate relationship is working just fine .. for us.

Which policies? What legislation?

VOTING .. which republicans would cut off for black Americans if they could.

Health care, Social Security, Affirmative action, economic policy, guns, etc, etc

In fact, I can't think of a single thing republicans stand for that blacks should support.

Tell me about the economic policies, the Social Security policies and the health care policies.

Your turn ..

How about you telling me why you think anyone black should support the Republican Party of their policies.

Tell me why anyone should vote for people who hate them?

Why should anyone black support a virtually all-white political party?

 

[Disir]

And the policies?

Democratic policies are FAR more palatable for African-Americans then republican policies .. OBVIOUSLY.

AND, democrats elect African-Americans .. republicans do not.

Noy sure why anyone would expect blacks to vote for people who hate us .. and who we hate.

That hate-hate relationship is working just fine .. for us.

Which policies? What legislation?

VOTING .. which republicans would cut off for black Americans if they could.

Health care, Social Security, Affirmative action, economic policy, guns, etc, etc

In fact, I can't think of a single thing republicans stand for that blacks should support.

Tell me about the economic policies, the Social Security policies and the health care policies.

Your turn ..

How about you telling me why you think anyone black should support the Republican Party of their policies.

Tell me why anyone should vote for people who hate them?

Why should anyone black support a virtually all-white political party?

So, just so we are clear...........you don't know?

I'll be back. Take your time.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

And the policies?

Democratic policies are FAR more palatable for African-Americans then republican policies .. OBVIOUSLY.

AND, democrats elect African-Americans .. republicans do not.

Noy sure why anyone would expect blacks to vote for people who hate us .. and who we hate.

That hate-hate relationship is working just fine .. for us.

Which policies? What legislation?

VOTING .. which republicans would cut off for black Americans if they could.

Health care, Social Security, Affirmative action, economic policy, guns, etc, etc

In fact, I can't think of a single thing republicans stand for that blacks should support.

Tell me about the economic policies, the Social Security policies and the health care policies.

Your turn ..

How about you telling me why you think anyone black should support the Republican Party of their policies.

Tell me why anyone should vote for people who hate them?

Why should anyone black support a virtually all-white political party?

Can't think of any reasons why anyone black should vote republican, eh?

Don't worry .. I can't either.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Democratic policies are FAR more palatable for African-Americans then republican policies .. OBVIOUSLY.

AND, democrats elect African-Americans .. republicans do not.

Noy sure why anyone would expect blacks to vote for people who hate us .. and who we hate.

That hate-hate relationship is working just fine .. for us.

Which policies? What legislation?

VOTING .. which republicans would cut off for black Americans if they could.

Health care, Social Security, Affirmative action, economic policy, guns, etc, etc

In fact, I can't think of a single thing republicans stand for that blacks should support.

Tell me about the economic policies, the Social Security policies and the health care policies.

Your turn ..

How about you telling me why you think anyone black should support the Republican Party of their policies.

Tell me why anyone should vote for people who hate them?

Why should anyone black support a virtually all-white political party?

So, just so we are clear...........you don't know?

I'll be back. Take your time.

Let's be clear .. I'm not your fucking puppet, nor your school teacher.

If you can't answer any questions .. and obviously you can't .. then don't ask any.

 

[JQPublic1]

There you go off on a tangent again. Congress is giving the H-1B visa workers the power to displace less qualified native born American workers. You say it because foreign H1-1B employees are cheaper and I beg to differ.That is the key issue you and I have been hashing around for a while now. Before we continue let's settle this by putting linked facts on the table. I'll start with this:

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Is H1B visa bad for the USA? - Quora

Actually, H1B visas do harm Americans.
New H-1B bill will 'help destroy' U.S. tech workforce

New Data Show How Firms Like Infosys and Tata Abuse the H-1B Program

Lower wages

The principal reason that firms use H-1Bs to replace American workers is because H-1B nonimmigrant workers are much cheaper than locally recruited and hired U.S. workers. As Table 1 shows, Infosys and Tata pay very low wages to their H-1B workers. The average wage for an H-1B employee at Infosys in FY13 was $70,882 and for Tata it was $65,565. Compare this to the average wage of a Computer Systems Analyst in Rosemead, CA (where SCE is located), which is $91,990 (according to the U.S. Department of Labor). That means Infosys and Tata save well over $20,000 per worker per year, by hiring an H-1B instead of a local U.S. worker earning the average wage. But at SCE specifically, the wage savings are much greater. SCE recently commissioned a consulting firm, Aon-Hewitt, to conduct a compensation study, which showed that SCE’s IT specialists were earning an average annual base pay of $110,446. That means Tata and Infosys are getting a 36 to 41 percent savings on labor costs—or saving about $40,000 to $45,000 per worker per year.



They aren't bringing people in that are more skilled. There is no shortage in the US. That myth was debunked several years ago.


Incidently this is why it is absolutely necessary to keep Hispanics, Blacks, Asians, and whites divided. So, we can all fight over the scraps at the bottom.

SO what does all of this have to do with Black Republicans? If you have a need for further discussion on this topic try one of these threads:
U.S. Senator blasts Microsoft's H-1B push as it lays off 18,000 workers

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I don't need those threads. I have posted in many. But, yeah it has everything to do with it.
Everything. Gates Clinton Foundation.

Gates to Congress: Microsoft needs more H-1B visas
Bill Gates makes the (bogus) case for more (cheap) foreign labor


Melinda Gates

Repubs:
Sessions criticizes Gates's call for visas amid Microsoft layoffs

Repubs acknowledging dillema:
Republicans Could Win Votes by Opposing Guest-Worker Programs, by Fred Bauer, National Review

Hillary In Favor of More H1B Visas:

Hillary Clinton made $3.2 million from the tech sector. Now she’s hitting it up for campaign dollars.

I didn't know Bill Gates was a Black Republican. He must be for you to be referencing him here in this op!

You're embarrassed. I understand. It happens.

I am only embarrassed by being seen conversing with a silly neophyte like you.

 

[JoeB131]

The problem is you refuse to take the same group of people to task. That's the problem.

I'd have no problem if we replaced welfare with workfare. If we put the poor to work doing something.

You know who'd complain about it? Private companies bidding for the same work.

No, I don't blame poor people for being poor in a largely racist society.

 

[mgh80]

Yesterday, a heated "debate" (well, as much of a debate that can be had in this mostly right wing forum) was had about one poster's friend who, as a liberal, spoke about a right wing friend who claimed that a good part of the hatred toward Obama was based on race.

I do NOT believe that opposition toward Obama is wholly based on race.....however, to deny that some racism does not exist toward Obama's presidency, would be equally naive.

So, what would make someone who is black and relatively intelligent, embrace the GOP platform that is often enmeshed in policies that are not for the betterment of the black voting bloc?

I am reminded of a passage in Milton's Paradise Lost where Lucifer explains why he chose to defy God's wishes (and PLEASE, I do not mean even remotely to equate a black republican to the devil......but the analogy is still sound.) ........Anyway, through Milton's prose, Lucifer explains that he would rather be a "king in hell" than just one of many other angel standing beside the throne of God.

What I'm getting at is that for SOME blacks who have chosen to embrace right wing policies may do so because the notoriety gained by such a stance is much more self serving than to be one of the vast majority of blacks who side with the left ideology. In other words, if you want to get on the FOX channels or the Rush radio talk shows, your chances are vastly improved if you claim that you are an arch conservative AND black.

I agree with you, but it also works both ways.

Is it not fair to say that there weren't people who voted for Obama just because he was black? 93% of black people voted for Obama in 2012.

What would happen if 93% of white people voted from Romney (I was not one of them mind you)?

I think both sides are equally naive when it comes to race.

 

[mgh80]

The problem is you refuse to take the same group of people to task. That's the problem.

I'd have no problem if we replaced welfare with workfare. If we put the poor to work doing something.

You know who'd complain about it? Private companies bidding for the same work.

No, I don't blame poor people for being poor in a largely racist society.

Work at any school with poverty, and you'll notice a level of apathy among the students that students at middle class/rich schools don't have. They have the same curriculum, same resources (actually in my district the lower income students have more resources)...but there's a level of apathy-and it's not just based on race. I've taught well off black students who are amazing students and will be fine in life, I've taught poor white students who stare at the wall the entire time and perform no work.

I assure you that kids in poverty stricken areas are given tons of educational opportunities-they're just not taking them. People making excuses such as "well it's because they feel defeated" or "what do you expect, it's ingrained in their culture?". Those might be true...but the truth is their still excuses at the end of the day, and any student in America has the opportunity to live successful lives.

 

[JoeB131]

Those might be true...but the truth is their still excuses at the end of the day, and any student in America has the opportunity to live successful lives.

Uh, guy, let's fucking get real here... today, mos americans regardless of race are just lucky to get by. This is what 40 years of Republican war on the middle class has given you.

 

[mgh80]

Those might be true...but the truth is their still excuses at the end of the day, and any student in America has the opportunity to live successful lives.

Uh, guy, let's fucking get real here... today, mos americans regardless of race are just lucky to get by. This is what 40 years of Republican war on the middle class has given you.

What exactly are you doing about it? I'm in the trenches at a lower-income public school every single day I go to work, in order to help society.

What I posted is 100% true based on my own experience. Of course I've taught poor students who have managed to get themselves out of poverty, but let's be real: the majority (yes majority) of my students are respectful enough-but they stare at the wall the entire class period and perform no work. They have no motivation or ambition to perform their work. They're just another spoke in their family's wheel of poverty.

This is the 21st century EVERY single one of my students has the opportunity to get themselves out of poverty...I can't force them to do so, I can't force them to study, I can't force them to do well in school, I can't force them not to join street gangs, I can't force them to show up to school instead of skipping, I can't force them to understand the value of skills and/or an education. All I can do is provide them with the opportunity, and if they don't take it (the majority of them don't)-they're still going to live in poverty..and THAT is 100% their fault. Sad, but true.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Your turn ..

How about you telling me why you think anyone black should support the Republican Party of their policies.

Tell me why anyone should vote for people who hate them?

Why should anyone black support a virtually all-white political party?

It's a nearly all white political party because the Democrats have blacks so brainwashed.

The Republican party welcomes anybody that wishes to join. If blacks don't want to join, don't blame the party for that. Blame yourself and your brothers.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Democrats aren't as racist or as stupid as republicans .. and both are why republicans find themselves in the dire and desperate shape they're in today.

Dire and desperate shape? We have a huge majority in Congress. We have a majority in the Senate. We have the majority of governorships in the country.

If that's dire and desperate, then what is successful?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

the problem is you think that the 'detrimental' policies are a cause, not a symptom.

personally, I would love it if NO ONE collected welfare because everyone had a job that put food on the table and a roof over their heads.

That's not the society we live in and the rich don't want to live in that society.

The rich don't control that, the individuals control that.

Why work when government will give you free food, free suburban housing, free daycare, free cellphone, free medical care for you and your family?

There are plenty of jobs out there, but can't find takers. It has nothing to do with the rich and more to do with government and their goodies.

"When the wise man points at the moon, the idiot will look at the finger."
Confucius

 

[nat4900]

It's a nearly all white political party because the Democrats have blacks so brainwashed.

The Republican party welcomes anybody that wishes to join. If blacks don't want to join, don't blame the party for that. Blame yourself and your brothers.

Ouch...actually the above sure "smells" of right wing DESPERATION.......What you're really stating (and everyone can see through your thinly veiled racism) is that blacks are too stupid and are easily brainwashed by us devious democrats......


And then you MORONS wonder why minorities avoid your party as the plague? Who would want to join a party with the likes of you in it?

 

[nat4900]

Dire and desperate shape? We have a huge majority in Congress. We have a majority in the Senate. We have the majority of governorships in the country.

Now, now....wait a minute here......I thought that we democrats only win elections with dead people voting....How the fuck did you manage to "win" so much....Did we run out of dead people......(what an )

(this guy is desperate...and he has guns.......btw, you don't happen to work at a post office, I hope...LOL)

 

[CMyers]

"Black republicans...who are they really?"

They're black republicans. Ask them separately and look to the separate groups they belong to if you want to know who they are and what they stand for. Yeah, just like with every other person.

It's only the liberals who need to box every separation they can make. It's just their way of dividing in order to conquer.

Since you mentioned black Republicans, I'll mention LGBT Democrats who are starting to realize that they're not going to be bashed as easy if they're carrying... and the pendulum shifts.

 

[nat4900]

Since you mentioned black Republicans, I'll mention LGBT Democrats who are starting to realize that they're not going to be bashed as easy if they're carrying... and the pendulum shifts.

Yes, yes....we all know that Repubs. are the party of the "tough guys"....LOL

 

[CMyers]

"We"

So, you're of the party of 'we we'.

"LOL"

Back at you.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Your turn ..

How about you telling me why you think anyone black should support the Republican Party of their policies.

Tell me why anyone should vote for people who hate them?

Why should anyone black support a virtually all-white political party?

It's a nearly all white political party because the Democrats have blacks so brainwashed.

The Republican party welcomes anybody that wishes to join. If blacks don't want to join, don't blame the party for that. Blame yourself and your brothers.

:0) You're a prime example why conversations with republicans are useless. There isn't an ounce of truth in what you've said.

Start here .. look at this board .. full of republicans just like you. The 'N' word flows freely here. Childish insults about black people are in virtually every thread .. including this one .. including in the stupid shit you write. Both you and the Republican Party are racist .. but neither of you have the balls to admit what planet earth already knows. The Republican Party is virtually all white because the Republican Party is racist. You won't find your racist ignorance on democratic sites unless a republican chimes in to stink it up.

Here's the good news .. nobody cares about you nor the Republican Party being racist. :0) You have no power.

Personally, I've gotten quite comfortable with republicans just the way they are. I'm not asking republicans to support anything. Not asking them to suddenly grow a brain and support humanity. I don't care who you vote for .. I don't give a fuck. Not asking republicans to be friends or friendly .. not even human.

On the other hand, I get great joy from reading you dumb motherfuckers whining about who black people vote for every fucking day. :0) Sorry ass racist clowns whining about your own lack of intelligence. :0) Black republicans .. don't fucking count .. and the only time republicans trot these morons out is during the Minstrel show. There aren't enough of them to even matter.

You and your party are racist .. stand up and be counted .. be proud of that stupid shit .. grow some balls. :0)

The Southern Strategy .. a one way ticket to the bottom. :0)